Complete message log for the Korg N264/N364 User Mailing List (aka N-list)

This is probably the first mail written in the new N-list! Calls for a celebration!! :) Anyway: When I tried DANCE.PCG (downloaded from a site with PCGs for the X3) I discovered that when playing program B20 (Sine Solo), one of the fx-processors started backfeeding itself which produced a nasty high volume SQUEAK in my speakers. This was fixed by first decreasing the delay time in page 7D and then setting it back to its previous value. Has anybody else experienced the same thing with that particular PCG (or another one)? Hopefully it's just a bug with the PCG conversion routine in the N. Else I might have a hardware fx-processor failure.. :( Cheers!

At 05:33 AM 11/16/97 +0100, you wrote: > When I tried DANCE.PCG (downloaded from a site with PCGs for the X3) I > discovered that when playing program B20 (Sine Solo), one of the > fx-processors started backfeeding itself which produced a nasty high volume > SQUEAK in my speakers. This was fixed by first decreasing the delay time in > page 7D and then setting it back to its previous value. > > Has anybody else experienced the same thing with that particular PCG (or > another one)? Hopefully it's just a bug with the PCG conversion routine in > the N. Else I might have a hardware fx-processor failure.. :( > > Cheers! Hi Kenneth, I have the same exact problem with that particular program. Ive yet to delete it from the .pcg but plan to soon. Ive also had problems trying to sequence them 303 type sounds. They *never* sound the same as program/combination mode for some freak reason or another. Even when i copy the effects over it looses a good 50% of the 'wah' and emulated resonance :( Have you had any luck sequencing with those programs? regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

On 97-11-16, Steve Wallis wrote: DANCE.PCG B20 SineSolo squeak: > > I have the same exact problem with that particular program. Ive yet to > > delete it from the .pcg but plan to soon. You don't have to delete it! Just press [edit], go to page 7D and decrease the delay time from 800 ms to 790 ms and the squeak disappears! The same method works for the other few squeaking sounds in this PCG! Don't forget to do a [write] afterwards though, or you will (like me) have your ears fall off when playing a note after having switched to another program and back. :) I can send you my fixed N-specific version of DANCE.PCG as an attachment in a private mail if you want to. Anyway, I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one with this problem! This means that there's just a bug with the X3-to-N PCG conversion routine, and not a hardware error. Phew! > > Ive also had problems trying to sequence > > them 303 type sounds. They *never* sound the same as program/combination > > mode for some freak reason or another. Even when i copy the effects over it > > looses a good 50% of the 'wah' and emulated resonance :( Have you had any > > luck sequencing with those programs? When trying program A46 (JSSaw303) and A66 (JS/SQ/303) in the sequencer it sounds 100% the same as in program mode, and I've tried all joystick Y positions. Don't forget to set the send C/D on the used track to C=PRG and D=PRG (seq edit page 1A). Also check that the fx placement is set to serial (seq edit page 7E). Combination A08 (St/JS 303) also sounds 100% the same in sequencer mode as in combi mode. There are cases when programs or combis sound like crap in the sequencer though, and that's probably because the sound mixing routine of the N has to homogenize the sounds to make the mix sound as good as possible. This involves lowering the volume (to avoid clipping). Cheerio!

Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > When I tried DANCE.PCG (downloaded from a site with PCGs for the X3) I > > discovered that when playing program B20 (Sine Solo), one of the > > fx-processors started backfeeding itself which produced a nasty high volume > > SQUEAK in my speakers. This was fixed by first decreasing the delay time in > > page 7D and then setting it back to its previous value. > > > > Has anybody else experienced the same thing with that particular PCG (or > > another one)? Yes, I had the same problem, with the same program. Scared the life out of me! Thanks for posting the fix! I was so impressed by the N-Series that I bought a N364 the very day it hit the stores! I was (and am!) VERY happy with it! The only regret that I have, however is the fact that I bought it too soon! Several months later, Korg began giving away a lot of stuff with the N-Series and the store I bought mine from was giving away even more with it. I was so mad! But the only thing that I really cared about was the extra disks that were included. My one and only question is: Does anybody have these disks? And if so, is it at all possible to get me copies of them? I would be VERY grateful!! Kenneth, great job getting this list automated! I never posted before, because it was too much of a pain in the you-know-where, but I have always enjoyed reading the posts. Thanks again! Erik Olson

I just got the 6 disks of sounds ( and headphones and $100) etc... Although I'm in no mood to share my $100, I'd be happy to send copies of the disks to whoever wants them. All you need to do is send a SASE with enough postage to cover the shipping, and 6 blank disks... My hopes for this mailing list, when I heard of it being formed, was to form a group of users who exchanged ideas, new sounds, disks, etc...so that we could all use the N-series to its full potential. So, what I'm trying to say here is this, feel free to send me any cool stuff you have found, along with your request for the KORG disks... Since I am on WebTV, I can't download anything from the internet. I've got plenty of blank disks, and will happily send a SASE with blanks for copies of the downloaded files. Thanks e-mail for mailing address, *@*.net

Serf wrote: > > > > I just got the 6 disks of sounds ( and headphones and $100) etc... > > > > Although I'm in no mood to share my $100, > > I'd be happy to send copies of the disks to whoever wants them. > > All you need to do is send a SASE with enough postage to cover the > > shipping, and > > 6 blank disks... > > Could you attach the files on the disk on your e-mail ? I think that a lot easier. Anyway I have some PCG & SNG files from the web. Please read my other post.. Augusth F H Hardiman

Hello everyone - My name is Tore. I live near Oslo, Norway and I just bought an N364, which is also my first synthesizer. I tried out various keyboards and did not much like the sounds they produced. I thought that by buying a synthesizer I would at least have the freedom to correct whatever I was displeased with. As it is, I find the N364 promising, but I miss the pungent bass sound that you can get on a grand piano. What I want is not exactly a piano sound, but some sort of el-piano with a real bass - you know, the deep DZOOM sound that you also get on good acoustic guitars. Any of you feel the same way? If you have a recipe for such a bass sound, I'd like to hear about it. Moreover, for sharing this type of data on the Net, has anyone made some sort of standard chart for easy specification of program parameters? If not, I might make one, unless the rest of you prefer to use files only. Tore

Thank god I found this list!! I live in lima, Peru, and I have a N364, I am using it with cakewalk 5.0 on win 95 with a mqx32 interface, I can play sequences, but I can not record anything, I set the echo channel in cakewalk in auto, but when I put the global midi channel on LOCAL OFF I can hear anyuthing, what more do I have to set to record? Please somebady help me!!!! tony

> >could you attach the files to your email as an attachment? WOW! is it that easy? I need to hurry up and get a computer. I can't do that because I have no way to transfer the information from disk to e-mail.

hi everyone, Another question I hv for u guys today. I want to know if it's possible to load just 1 patch/program from a disk to a progam lets say A01. What I did is edited c01 and d15 and automatically it saved them into a01 and b15. but now i want to keep a01 and want the old b15 back. How can I do that? Pls let me know. Thanx Hasnat PS: Kenneth this list server is awesom.

> >WOW! is it that easy? > >I need to hurry up and get a computer. > >I can't do that because I have no way to transfer the information from > >disk to e-mail. Why not, you have to write yours email messages in a computer right? so the n364 disks are compatible. tony

On Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 01:29:50PM -0600, Serf wrote: > > I just got the 6 disks of sounds ( and headphones and $100) etc... > > > > Although I'm in no mood to share my $100, > > I'd be happy to send copies of the disks to whoever wants them. > > All you need to do is send a SASE with enough postage to cover the > > shipping, and > > 6 blank disks... Can someone arrange to put these disks up on a website or ftp site? If someone mails me the contents of the disks I can make them available this way, but I don't really feel like sending 6 blank disks + SASE overseas, it'd be easier and faster if someone in the USA did it.

> >can someone make these disks available through e-mail. Although I can't save anything to disk at home, I can take the sound disks to a friend and have her e-mail me the files. Once she does that I can send them all to the list. I'll send this out in the next day or two. -Serf

On Tue, Nov 18, 1997 at 10:14:52AM -0600, Serf wrote: >> > >can someone make these disks available through e-mail. > > > > Although I can't save anything to disk at home, I can take the sound > > disks to a friend and have her e-mail me the files. > > Once she does that I can send them all to the list. > > I'll send this out in the next day or two. Don't mail the contents of 6 floppies to everyone on the list!@! that's pretty sure to hose a few mail spool systems, with something like 10 megs of mail at one time. Feel free to send the whole disks to me, I know the mail system here can take it, and then I'll make them available on a webpage and/or ftp site.

THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH! I've been trying to get my local music store to dot his for me for some time....hope it works well... A thought, my mail server has a limit to what I can send out as an attachment(somewhere between 2 and 5 megs I believe) you may want to send the disks contents one at a time to get around this limitation (if you have it) just a thought, thank you VERY much, Jon > > >> >>can someone make these disks available through e-mail. > > > >Although I can't save anything to disk at home, I can take the sound > >disks to a friend and have her e-mail me the files. > >Once she does that I can send them all to the list. > >I'll send this out in the next day or two. > >-Serf > >

At 10:14 18-11-97 -0600, you wrote: >> >>can someone make these disks available through e-mail. > > > >Although I can't save anything to disk at home, I can take the sound > >disks to a friend and have her e-mail me the files. > >Once she does that I can send them all to the list. > >I'll send this out in the next day or two. > >-Serf Hiya people, I'm one of the list maintainers (the other is Kenneth), I don't care about sending binaries over the mailing list, but keep in mind that there are modem users on the list, and sending 5 or 6 discs, about 1 meg each, over a modem line costs lots of time. Rather you put them on some ftp or web site or something like that and announce the url on the list. Another more serious problem is, if you sent copyrighted binaries over the list, the company where I work and where the listserver is running will be held responsible for whats in those binaries. My boss doesn't like that.. So I ask you to please reconsider sending such binaries over the list. Hehe, my first message on the list and already I look like a whiner.. >:) Greets from da Netherlands, Hero Idema

> > Another question I hv for u guys today. I want to know if it's possible to > > load just 1 patch/program from a disk to a progam lets say A01. What I > > did is edited c01 and d15 and automatically it saved them into a01 and > > a15. but now i want to keep a01 and want the old b15 back. How can I do > > that? Hehe, I recognize that problem. Once in a while I forget that bank C and D of both the combis and programs are in ROM, and accidentally write over a combi or program in bank A or B. Anyway, the solution to the problem: Insert the disk where you have the PCG, go to the disk menu, select page 2A if you want to load 1 combi, or page 2B if you want to load 1 program. Do a directory scan (by pressing the [arrow up/yes] button), select the PCG, and then press right cursor button to enter the combi/program selection subpage. There you select the combi/program you want to load, and where to put it. Then choose ok and the combi/program will be copied to the memory. You can use the same method to load 1 song, 1 pattern, 1 drumkit and 1 patternset by using pages 2C to 2F in disk menu. > > PS: Kenneth this list server is awesom. Well, thank you! Also give credit to Hero Idema, who so generously set the list up for us! Cheers!

At 17:46 1997-11-18 +0100, Roger Espel Llima wrote: Sound disks: > > Feel free to send the whole disks to me, I know the mail system here can > > take it, and then I'll make them available on a webpage and/or ftp site. That's a very good idea! There is also a way to put the disks as files on this list server, but it could be troublesome for some of the users to download them. Besides, I barely know how to upload files to the list server myself. :) I guess the best solution is for Serf to mail Roger the disks, and let Roger put it on an FTP site! We would all benefit from having those disks!!

> > As it is, I find the N364 promising, but I miss the pungent bass sound > > that you can get on a grand piano. What I want is not exactly a piano > > sound, but some sort of el-piano with a real bass - you know, the deep > > DZOOM sound that you also get on good acoustic guitars. It could perhaps be done. I don't have a clue how this sounds though, so it would be nice if you had a short sample you can attach to a mail and send directly to me. I'm not a very experienced sound programmer, but I could give it a try. Atleast I've managed to enhance sound A01 (N264 Piano), making it richer and less dull. > > Moreover, for sharing this type of data on the Net, has anyone made some > > sort of standard chart for easy specification of program parameters? If > > not, I might make one, unless the rest of you prefer to use files only. Do you mean a computer program that can send parameters to the N via MIDI, or a graphical chart making it easy to overview the parameters? Both are welcome. Cheers!

> > Another more serious problem is, if you sent copyrighted binaries over the > > list, the company where I work and where the listserver is running will be > > held responsible for whats in those binaries. My boss doesn't like that.. > > So I ask you to please reconsider sending such binaries over the list. I came to think of that too. I wonder if those extra sound disks from KORG are copyrighted material... I guess it is, but it really shouldn't be. Anyway, as said before, please mail the disks privatly to Roger (*@*.U-CLERMONT1.FR) and let him put them on an FTP site. > > Hehe, my first message on the list and already I look like a whiner.. >:) Yup, but we love you anyway. :)))

Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > >> > > As it is, I find the N364 promising, but I miss the pungent bass sound >> > > that you can get on a grand piano. What I want is not exactly a piano >> > > sound, but some sort of el-piano with a real bass - you know, the deep >> > > DZOOM sound that you also get on good acoustic guitars. > > > > It could perhaps be done. I don't have a clue how this sounds though, so it > > would be nice if you had a short sample you can attach to a mail and send > > directly to me. I'm not a very experienced sound programmer, but I could > > give it a try. Thanks, Kenneth, but I have don't have the means to make any sort of sound file. (I'll have to get such equipment, I guess.) The sound I want is roughly what you hear if you play a great E (i.e. E2) on a grand piano. Playing the bottom string of a guitar with a pick gives you a sound that is fairly similar, IMO. > > Atleast I've managed to enhance sound A01 (N264 Piano), > > making it richer and less dull. That is interesting. Could you say a word about what you did to it? >> > > Moreover, for sharing this type of data on the Net, has anyone made some >> > > sort of standard chart for easy specification of program parameters? If >> > > not, I might make one, unless the rest of you prefer to use files only. > > > > Do you mean a computer program that can send parameters to the N via MIDI, > > or a graphical chart making it easy to overview the parameters? Both are > > welcome. I meant a graphical chart, since this is easier to work with while sitting at the Korg. Once it works well, it can always be computerized. The thing is, there are dependencies between parameters, and these should be clearly visible in a graphical chart if it is to be of any real use. I'll think about it. Tore

Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > I'm not a very experienced sound programmer, but I could > > give it a try. Atleast I've managed to enhance sound A01 (N264 Piano), > > making it richer and less dull. I feel the same way too about the sound A01 (N264 Piano). Could you explain what have to be done to enhance that sound. Thank's... August F H Hardiman

> >the best solution would be for serf to mail the entire disks to Roger...and he could put them ...<snippity snip> sounds fine by me...Roger...pssst...um...ya wanna send me a self addressed stamped envelope...with postage that will work for 6 disks? one of those manilla bubble wrap envelopes would work best... besides...I like to pop the bubbles ... I'll donate the 6 blank disks...just send the SASE... e mail me for the addy...

Hi kenneth! Just wanted to give you and everyone an updated address. This account will be used by someone else now. My address has changed to *@*.com Would really appreciate if everyone could change my address in their mailing lists thanks Kenneth Jonsson wrote: >> > > As it is, I find the N364 promising, but I miss the pungent bass > > sound >> > > that you can get on a grand piano.ã^À^À What I want is not exactly a > > piano >> > > sound, but some sort of el-piano with a real bass - you know, the > > deep >> > > DZOOM sound that you also get on good acoustic guitars. > > > > It could perhaps be done. I don't have a clue how this sounds though, > > so it > > would be nice if you had a short sample you can attach to a mail and > > send > > directly to me. I'm not a very experienced sound programmer, but I > > could > > give it a try. Atleast I've managed to enhance sound A01 (N264 Piano), > > > > making it richer and less dull. > > >> > > Moreover, for sharing this type of data on the Net, has anyone made > > some >> > > sort of standard chart for easy specification of program parameters? > > ã^À^À If >> > > not, I might make one, unless the rest of you prefer to use files > > only. > > > > Do you mean a computer program that can send parameters to the N via > > MIDI, > > or a graphical chart making it easy to overview the parameters? Both > > are > > welcome. > > > > Cheers!

I DONT THINK THERE ARE COPYRIGHTS ON THESE BUT I AM NOT SURE. I THINK THAT BCOS LOOK AT ALL OTHER PATCHES AVAILABLE ON THE NET INCLUDING THE N SOUNDS PRELOADS PLUS OTHER ROLAND, ENSONIQUE PATCHES. -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.LUTH.SE] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 1997 04:23 To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Re: Sound disks > > Another more serious problem is, if you sent copyrighted binaries over the > > list, the company where I work and where the listserver is running will be > > held responsible for whats in those binaries. My boss doesn't like that.. > > So I ask you to please reconsider sending such binaries over the list. I came to think of that too. I wonder if those extra sound disks from KORG are copyrighted material... I guess it is, but it really shouldn't be. Anyway, as said before, please mail the disks privatly to Roger (*@*.U-CLERMONT1.FR) and let him put them on an FTP site. > > Hehe, my first message on the list and already I look like a whiner.. >:) Yup, but we love you anyway. :)))

I bought my N364 as a demo instrument, since the store only had the one on display. I wonder if they gave me all the stuff that was originally in the package. What I got was - one N364 - a power cord - a crumpled manual According to the manual there should have been a diskette too. And one usually gets a registration card with such instruments. Maybe there also was some folder with maps of programs and combination? I'd be grateful if one of you would tell me what was in your package. Tore P.S.: I still hope Kenneth will tell us what he did to enhance the sound of program A01 (N264 Piano).

My 364 came with 2 manuals... a power cord, a disk reg card ask the shop people to give you one Tore Lund wrote: > > I bought my N364 as a demo instrument, since the store only had the > > one > > on display.ã^À^À I wonder if they gave me all the stuff that was > > originally > > in the package.ã^À^À What I got was > > > > - one N364 > > - a power cord > > - a crumpled manual > > > > According to the manual there should have been a diskette too.ã^À^À And > > one > > usually gets a registration card with such instruments.ã^À^À Maybe there > > > > also was some folder with maps of programs and combination?ã^À^À I'd be > > grateful if one of you would tell me what was in your package. > > > > Tore > > > > P.S.: I still hope Kenneth will tell us what he did to enhance the > > sound > > of program A01 (N264 Piano). > > -- > > Tore Lund <*@*.no> ã^À^Àã^À^À

Nasar Haq wrote: > > > > My 364 came with > > 2 manuals... a power cord, a disk > > reg card > > > > ask the shop people to give you one Great! Can you tell me what the second manual is all about? The one I've got is called "Reference Guide". Tore

the other ones called THE BASIC GUIDE as the name suggests... its basic.. simple and easy to understand.... I learned everything from it very important guide in the end also has names and banks for the sounds voices and patterns ã^À^À Tore Lund wrote: > > Nasar Haq wrote: >> > > >> > > My 364 came with >> > > 2 manuals... a power cord, a disk >> > > reg card >> > > >> > > ask the shop people to give you one > > > > Great!ã^À^À Can you tell me what the second manual is all about?ã^À^À The > > one > > I've got is called "Reference Guide". > > > > Tore > > -- > > Tore Lund <*@*.no> ã^À^Àã^À^À

Hi everyone, I want help to be able to use differents effects on different tracks in sequenser mode. When I am trying to change the effect settings for one track it seems like the other 15 tracks always will be affected by this. For example, if I want one track to be "dry" (still in sequenser mode), eg. without any effects at all, the other tracks become dry too. How can I overcome this? Leif Lund P.S. I really like this mailing list! Great thing! D.S.

At 11:47 1997-11-19 +0100, Tore Lund wrote: Special bass sound: > > Thanks, Kenneth, but I have don't have the means to make any sort of > > sound file. (I'll have to get such equipment, I guess.) The sound I > > want is roughly what you hear if you play a great E (i.e. E2) on a grand > > piano. Playing the bottom string of a guitar with a pick gives you a > > sound that is fairly similar, IMO. Oh, ok. Too bad I have neither a guitar nor a grand piano, so I'll have to wait with helping you until I know exactly how it should sound. Have you tried playing low notes with some of the preloaded pianos in the N? I guess you have... "New" program A01 (N364 Piano): > > That is interesting. Could you say a word about what you did to it? (This is also a reply to August Hardiman's mail - "Enhanced sound A01") To be quite honest I don't exactly remember what I did to it, but I know that I increased the filter cutoff frequency to reduce the muffle, and decreased the velocity sensitivity to make it harder. Since I have an N364 with fewer keys, I also changed octave from 8' to 16' on both oscillators to be able to play fat double bass. Hence the name "N364 Piano". If you want to, I can mail my current PCG to both of you (August and Tore) privatly. Then you can simply load program A01 (using 'load 1 program' in the disk menu) and listen to it. If you think it sucks, then just load program A01 from preload.pcg again... If anybody else is interested in trying my program A01, mail me privatly. > > I meant a graphical chart, since this is easier to work with while > > sitting at the Korg. Once it works well, it can always be computerized. > > > > The thing is, there are dependencies between parameters, and these > > should be clearly visible in a graphical chart if it is to be of any > > real use. I'll think about it. Such a chart would be very welcome!!! Having to flip pages to and forth in the Reference Guide isn't my idea of effective programming. Cheers!

At 01:36 1997-11-21 +0100, Leif Lund wrote: > > I want help to be able to use differents effects on different tracks in > > sequenser mode. When I am trying to change the effect settings for one track > > it seems like the other 15 tracks always will be affected by this. For > > example, if I want one track to be "dry" (still in sequenser mode), eg. > > without any effects at all, the other tracks become dry too. How can I > > overcome this? For starters, there are only two physical fx processors in the N (the same goes for the X3 and many other workstations), so you'll have to choose well when it comes to selecting which fx settings to use. I.e. you can't have different settings for each track, but you can have different amounts of effect-send. If you want to have one (or more) track(s) dry, you will first have to set its send C/D to 0/0 (in one of the first seq edit pages). But that's often not enough! If you're using both fx processors and have them set to serial mode, it will be impossible to have a track 100% dry. You'll have to use parallell3 (change this setting on page 7E in seq edit mode)! This will in most cases not worsen the sound quality much. Though there will be a definite problem if you try to sequence sounds like combination A00 (FirstLight), since it won't sound half as powerful with parallell3 placement. :( I haven't tried output 3 and 4 (in the back of the N) yet, since I have no mixer, but will do that later. Now, don't take my word for granted when it comes to effect placement, since I have barely read the manual. Do your own experimenting and read the Reference Guide carefully! Cheers!

Sorry leif. In sequencer mode, the effects affect the whole song, and you cant separate tracks out with different effects. That would take up too much memory for the machine. it sucks i know, but is one of the few limitations. Sorry. Ken

Nasar Haq wrote: > > > > the other ones called > > THE BASIC GUIDE > > > > as the name suggests... its basic.. simple and easy to understand.... > > I learned everything from it > > very important guide > > in the end also has names and banks for the sounds voices and patterns Thank you very much. No wonder I found the learning curve rather steep when I sat down with the REFERENCE GUIDE alone. I also missed some sort of survey of programs etc. Tore

Hi, I just joined the list It is awsome I'm from Belgium and I got my n364 in August. About the fx in Seq. Mode: I think it works like this: You can assign two FXs to the effect processors. If you take a look at the 'effect placement' (screen 7 something) you can assing FXs to different tracks. Then you also have to work on your 'Send C and Send D' and your PAN. It is all very clear if you look at the 'reference guide'. Then, using some controller data (3C, I think) you can turn the effects on and off whenever you want (but not for each seperate track). Also with controller data you can make the sounds gradually brighter or darker and it has some other effect-like stuff you can controll, just look at the list on page 126 of the reference guide. Also cool is that you can assign effect controll to you controllers (like the bender or aftertouch or the value slider) What it does is that you can controll the AMOUNT of effect you are using. For instance, if you assing an effect 'phaser1' to your bender, if you play a note and bring the bender down or up (vertically, not horizontally), you can increase or decrease the amount of phaser you want to use. I hope this is an answer to the question. Or am i just telling old news. ps I'd like to exchange data through the internet, yet i don't even have a funny clue how to do this, I'm trying to find one of my friends to explain this to me, but it is all so clear to them that they don't want to spend time explaining it to me. If somebody has time to explain this to me, please do. Or tell me where i can read how to do this, somewhere on the internet. Thanks This 'mailing list' is probably the best invention ever. (next to 'the wheel' and 'fire' of course) -Toon

> > > >Sorry leif. In sequencer mode, the effects affect the whole song, and you > >cant separate tracks out with different effects. That would take up too much > >memory for the machine. it sucks i know, but is one of the few limitations. > > Sorry. > > Ken Not exactly true... If you're the creative sort, you can create a combi containing all of the sounds you wish to use on 8 tracks on your seq... you can edit the level, pans, and sends for each sound seperately....(page 41-45 in the Reference manual) this will take some serious planning ahead of time so you'll need to be patient... now copy the combi you've created to the seq. using the copy from combination mode(page 153 in the ref. manual) so now you have 8 voices in the sequencer each with their own panning and sends(c,d) now set up your effects accordingly(see pages 59-61 effects placement in your ref. manual) Serial sub placement and parallel placement look most promising, but others may work well depending on your use... example..using Parallel Sub placement, send drums to the C or D send with reverb or whatever... and a lead or guitar through A and B with distortion... look at the pages I've mentioned and you'll get the picture.... have fun, Jon Disclaimer: There may be an easier way to do this, and since the N364 isn't my only board, I never rely on it to provide all of my sounds. Your mileage may vary.

Hi kenneth This is Nash.. I requested a change in the mailing list. My new email is *@*.com This is my business email now... my boss goes through it too..hes a meany. Im still getting emails on this one. Would appreciate it if you could change the address on the list Nash Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > On 97-11-16, Steve Wallis wrote: > > > > DANCE.PCG B20 SineSolo squeak: > > >> > > I have the same exact problem with that particular program. Ive yet > > to >> > > delete it from the .pcg but plan to soon. > > > > You don't have to delete it! Just press [edit], go to page 7D and > > decrease > > the delay time from 800 ms to 790 ms and the squeak disappears! The > > same > > method works for the other few squeaking sounds in this PCG! Don't > > forget > > to do a [write] afterwards though, or you will (like me) have your > > ears > > fall off when playing a note after having switched to another program > > and > > back. :) > > > > I can send you my fixed N-specific version of DANCE.PCG as an > > attachment in > > a private mail if you want to. > > > > Anyway, I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one with this problem! > > This > > means that there's just a bug with the X3-to-N PCG conversion routine, > > and > > not a hardware error. Phew! > > >> > > Ive also had problems trying to sequence >> > > them 303 type sounds. They *never* sound the same as > > program/combination >> > > mode for some freak reason or another. Even when i copy the effects > > over it >> > > looses a good 50% of the 'wah' and emulated resonance :( Have you > > had any >> > > luck sequencing with those programs? > > > > When trying program A46 (JSSaw303) and A66 (JS/SQ/303) in the > > sequencer it > > sounds 100% the same as in program mode, and I've tried all joystick Y > > > > positions. Don't forget to set the send C/D on the used track to C=PRG > > and > > D=PRG (seq edit page 1A). Also check that the fx placement is set to > > serial > > (seq edit page 7E). > > > > Combination A08 (St/JS 303) also sounds 100% the same in sequencer > > mode as > > in combi mode. > > > > There are cases when programs or combis sound like crap in the > > sequencer > > though, and that's probably because the sound mixing routine of the N > > has > > to homogenize the sounds to make the mix sound as good as possible. > > This > > involves lowering the volume (to avoid clipping). > > > > Cheerio!

Hi, I want to know what other users did with the arpeggio & RPPR features in N364. For me, I just used it to impress my friend :-) Please share your practical use of that features, maybe in live or recording situation. Thank's August F H Hardiman

Hello, My name is Michel Keijzers from the Netherlands. I'm quite a while a subscriber of this fabulous list. I do not own a Korg N yet, but I'm planning to buy a Korg N264 within two months. I own already a Korg X5 with great pleasure. The main reason for buying the N264 is the 64 voice polyphony, the 4 effect processors (2 per synth) and the 76-keys. However, I have some questions: - It is possible to record a pattern under a key. Is this option available while being in Combination mode? - Is the arpeggio available when in Combination mode ? The reason is that I will using it a lot in live gigs and I use a combination for almost each song, so I rely heavily on as much options as possible available in Combination mode. Kind regards, Michel

> >ps I'd like to exchange data through the internet, yet i don't even have a > >funny clue how to do this, I'm trying to find one of my friends to explain > >this to me, but it is all so clear to them that they don't want to spend > >time explaining it to me. If somebody has time to explain this to me, > >please do. Or tell me where i can read how to do this, somewhere on the > >internet. Thanks > > Hi, I'm Francesco, If you want send data through the Net you have simply to use the attach function in you e-mail program. For example in Eudora when you write a message you can specify in the messagge-attachments menu the name of the files you want send with the E-mail. I hope I've helped you. If you have any question or if you want to exchange some data or stuff for the N364 feel free to contact me. Bye Francesco

Hi I'm Francesco from Italy > >I do not own a Korg N yet, but I'm planning to buy a Korg N264 within two > >months. I own already a Korg X5 with great pleasure. The main reason for > >buying the N264 is the 64 voice polyphony, > >the 4 effect processors (2 per synth) and the 76-keys. ^^^^^ I'm sorry but the N have only two effect processors > >However, I have some questions: > > > >- It is possible to record a pattern under a key. Is this option available > >while being in Combination mode? Yes, it is possible to record an 8 measure max pattern under a key but this options is only available in seq mode > >- Is the arpeggio available when in Combination mode ? Yes, the arpeggio is availble in Compination, Program and Seq mode. And live is very cool!!!!! Bye Francesco

At 10:19 1997-11-21 PST, j. austin wrote: > > If you're the creative sort, you can create a combi containing all of > > the sounds you wish to use on 8 tracks on your seq... you can edit the > > level, pans, and sends for each sound seperately....(page 41-45 in the > > Reference manual) this will take some serious planning ahead of time so > > you'll need to be patient... now copy the combi you've created to the > > seq. No need to do it in such a complicated manner. You can edit pan and send C/D settings for each track in the sequencer instead. Pan settings are edited directly in SEQ mode, and send C/D in SEQ EDIT mode (page 1A). Read my previous mail about which fx placement settings to use.

Francesco, Thank you for the info. About the patterns, I assume you mean that recording needs to be done in Sequencer mode (no problem), but playing the pattern by pressing a key can be done in Combination mode (or program mode). At least, I hope it goes this way. And about the 4 effect processors, I meant 2 from the N264 and 2 from my X5. Kind regards, Michel Keijzers from the Netherlands ---------- > > From: Francesco <*@*.IT> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: Questions about options available in Cominbation Mode > > Date: zondag 23 november 1997 14:41 > > > > Hi I'm Francesco from Italy > > >> > >I do not own a Korg N yet, but I'm planning to buy a Korg N264 within two >> > >months. I own already a Korg X5 with great pleasure. The main reason for >> > >buying the N264 is the 64 voice polyphony, >> > >the 4 effect processors (2 per synth) and the 76-keys. > > ^^^^^ I'm sorry but the N have only two effect processors > > >> > >However, I have some questions: >> > > >> > >- It is possible to record a pattern under a key. Is this option available >> > >while being in Combination mode? > > Yes, it is possible to record an 8 measure max pattern under a key but this > > options is only available in seq mode > > >> > >- Is the arpeggio available when in Combination mode ? > > Yes, the arpeggio is availble in Compination, Program and Seq mode. And live > > is very cool!!!!! > > > > Bye > > Francesco

Hi there, Gotta ask another dumb q . The other day I visited http://www.korg.net they have some kind of Prog and Comb for N. Are these any new stuff? They are selling some P&C too. What are they for? Thanx

good, I hoped it was easuer than this.... good thing I don't need to use the n364 for all the sounds I need 8p .....i'd be sitting here all day playing with the fx.......Jon >> >> If you're the creative sort, you can create a combi containing all of >> >> the sounds you wish to use on 8 tracks on your seq... you can edit the >> >> level, pans, and sends for each sound seperately....(page 41-45 in the >> >> Reference manual) this will take some serious planning ahead of time so >> >> you'll need to be patient... now copy the combi you've created to the >> >> seq. > > > >No need to do it in such a complicated manner. You can edit pan and send > >C/D settings for each track in the sequencer instead. Pan settings are > >edited directly in SEQ mode, and send C/D in SEQ EDIT mode (page 1A). > > > >Read my previous mail about which fx placement settings to use. > >

HI, does anyone know how I can edit a song that was created on other synth. My friend has a Roland XP50 and I tried to play some of his normal GM songs (not using his patches) on my N but I couldn't edit them. Does anybody know how to do it? What I basically did is load his file to my N as a SMF and played them on it. Some of the tracks are fine but some tracks are playing wrong Programs. How can I fix this? Thanx Hasnat

> > Gotta ask another dumb q. The other day I visited http://www.korg.net they > > have some kind of Prog and Comb for N. Are these any new stuff? They are > > selling some P&C too. What are they for? I visited the site and downloaded the two files that are for the i/X/N. Both were made several years ago, so they aren't directly for the N, but they work. Have seen them both on other pages also. Are you wondering what a PCG (Program-Combination-Global) file is, or what is your question? Have a look in the manuals if you don't know what a PCG is. Should be well explained what it is and how to use it there. Cheers!

> > My friend has a Roland XP50 and I tried to play some of his normal GM songs > > (not using his patches) on my N but I couldn't edit them. Does anybody know > > how to do it? What I basically did is load his file to my N as a SMF and > > played them on it. Some of the tracks are fine but some tracks are playing > > wrong Programs. How can I fix this? You could try changing program filter to NUM in global edit page 3C. But that will only work if it as "pure" GM file, i.e. if your friend has used ONLY GM sounds. Check out the part in the Basic Guide about playing GM songs. Cheers!

Hi! Just thought I'd let you know that the people at KORG were happy to hear that I've started this list. I told them that they can send any news, tips, announcements etc to me so I can forward it to everybody on the list (they don't have the time to be members themselves)! I hope they do, so we can keep easily updated to what's happening with our dear N! Cheers!

Hi! You can find some general info about this list and the server it is running on if you enter LISTSERV's search page at http://www.lsoft.com/lists/LIST_Q.html and search for "n-list". Could be good to know incase you should lose all addresses to the list, since all needed addresses are there. Cheers!

If anyone is using the N364 with Cubase VST (Mac or PC, does not matter) please let me know. Perhaps we can share some ideas. GG

Hi Everyone! OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone. My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone... and what format should I use.... zip files....attachments...etc? Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and thought I was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants these files...and how should I send them?

At 12:08 1997-11-25 -0600, Gary Gulley wrote: > > If anyone is using the N364 with Cubase VST (Mac or PC, does not matter) > > please let me know. Perhaps we can share some ideas. I am, but I haven't had the time to get deep into it yet. Sharing of ideas are very welcome!

Hi Serf ZIPping the disks will certainly make them smaller. For everybody to understand all files clearly, I would suggest ZIPping each disk to one ZIP file and naming the file as it is on the original disk. So basically u will hv 6 ZIP files for the 6 disks. You can mail each of the ZIP files separately or all together. But since ppl are complaining of overloading their email, mailing separately will be good. I personally dot think I hv a problem on getting 6 ZIP files on one mail. So it's up to you. Thanx -----Original Message----- From: Serf [SMTP:*@*.NET] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 15:27 To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: 6 disks of KORG sounds Hi Everyone! OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone. My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone... and what format should I use.... zip files....attachments...etc? Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and thought I was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants these files...and how should I send them? [Hasnat Mosharraf] I definitely want them

If you care to email all the disks to me, I'll provide ftp space for anyone who wants them. Steve Day

Hi Serf (and everybody else), Are these six Korg Disks by any chance named?: - House and Funk - Killer Organs - Pop Performances - Power Disk - Sound Alternatives - N364 (Factory Presets) If they are, I already have them. They're right here on my computer in one zip file (divided into six subdirectories). The file is about 872KB. If someone wants to put them up on a web or FTP site, I'll gladly email them to you. Onward through the fog. John (John.*@*.com)

On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 02:26:41PM -0600, Serf wrote: > > Hi Everyone! > > OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy > > laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone. > > > > My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone... > > and what format should I use.... > > zip files....attachments...etc? > > > > Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and thought I > > was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants these > > files...and how should I send them? Just email them to me... attachments of zip files or whatever will be fine. I'll put them on an ftp server somewhere.

Hi All, Does anyone know how the N364 decides what sound it will use for the metronome? It seems to uses different sounds depending on what programs I load into the sequencer tracks. Can you tell it what sound to use if you don't like the one it's using? Onward through the fog. John (John.*@*.com)

Hello, all! I am working on a web site titled: "Korg International Users Group" and need some help from you. I am going to have a section entitled "Tips 'n Tricks" and would love to see some of you send in your favorite! I'm not just looking for the tough, cool stuff, but for ANY tips/tricks, no matter how easy or difficult. I would like to see this site as a major resource for ALL Korg users, regardless of product. Although the only Korg products I own are the N364, an M1, and a few old Sound Modules (I don't even use them anymore) , I think this should include the entire Korg product line. If I play my cards right, I may even get Korg to even sponsor it! Who knows?! Anyway, on this site I will have a News section, a Tips and Tricks section, a Download section (explained below!), and more! The download section IMO will be the coolest part of this site! I will have .SNGs, .MIDs, .PCGs, etc. here. These will hopefully be provided by users and broken down into individual and common areas. For this reason, I am also pleading with all of you to PLEASE send me some of your files that you have created (or acquired) so I can use them on the site. If I use on of your Tips n' Tricks, I will credit you properly, and put a link to your page(if you have one) or to your email. The same goes for any program, combi, sng, or MIDI file you submit, IF you created it. In other words, anything I get from you will be credited. If you didn't create a submission, you will be credited via a "submitted by...". Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!! I will let everyone know when the site is completed! Thanks to everyone! Without this list, this site would not be started! Erik Olson

John Schultz wrote.... > >Are these disks.... yes those are the disks... The only one you don't have is Raw Drums I'll have my brother zip that one. (it's my favorite)

To all; The zip file of the Korg sounds can be found at ftp.ccnet.com in users/sad001. The name of the file is n-disks.zip. Just do an anonymous login and get them. It's about 800K. Thanks to John Schulz for providing them. Steve Day

I am fairly certain now: my N364 is out of tune. Maybe some of you could carry out these steps and tell me what you hear: (1) Initialize a program. (2) Set the volume to a comfortable level. (3) Play the lowest D of your N against the highest D. Doing this, the highest D is distinctly flat to my ears. I know that piano octaves are sometimes "stretched" for several reasons, but I have not heard of anything like that on synthesizers. Besides, "stretching" the octaves would make that high D *sharp* in relation to the low D, but it is *flat*. There is nothing in the manual that can explain this as far as I can see. I have noticed inaccuracies in the middle of the keyboard as well, which is why I began looking for test cases, but there seems to be no easy way to ascertain bad intonation between different pitch classes without the proper apparatus. Can any of you think of a way to do this? I'd like to be certain before I start harassing the distributor. Tore

> > (1) Initialize a program. > > (2) Set the volume to a comfortable level. > > (3) Play the lowest D of your N against the highest D. I haven't checked this yet, but a quick tip: you could have mistakenly changed something in global edit page 2A (scale type). Should be set to equal temp. Will check the above later... Cheers!

Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > >> > > (1) Initialize a program. >> > > (2) Set the volume to a comfortable level. >> > > (3) Play the lowest D of your N against the highest D. > > > > I haven't checked this yet, but a quick tip: you could have mistakenly > > changed something in global edit page 2A (scale type). Should be set to > > equal temp. Will check the above later... Thank you Kenneth, but the global setting is equal temp, and the user scale is all zeros. Besides, these settings should not affect tones of the same pitch class. Tore

At 22:15 1997-11-26 +0100, Tore Lund wrote: > > (1) Initialize a program. > > (2) Set the volume to a comfortable level. > > (3) Play the lowest D of your N against the highest D. When Comparing D-2 and D-6 on my N364 they sound perfectly in tune. But perhaps you have a better ear for tones than I have. Or your N has gone haywire. > > I have noticed inaccuracies in the middle of the keyboard as well With an initialized program (i.e. single oscillator piano 000)? Perhaps you are referring to the change in colour of the sound every two octaves? I believe this is because each two (or one?) octaves uses another sampled sound. Or perhaps it is an algorithm switch to produce the best sound possible from a limited sound sample. The N only contains 8 MB PCM sample ROM after all... Besides, all samplebased synthesizers have that same problem.

Big thanks to the person who posted the N-disk's on that ftp site. Much appreciated :) regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > > > At 22:15 1997-11-26 +0100, Tore Lund wrote: > > >> > > (1) Initialize a program. >> > > (2) Set the volume to a comfortable level. >> > > (3) Play the lowest D of your N against the highest D. > > > > When Comparing D-2 and D-6 on my N364 they sound perfectly in tune. But > > perhaps you have a better ear for tones than I have. Or your N has gone > > haywire. Probably the latter alternative. I am taking it the doctor tomorrow, so we'll see what he says. >> > > I have noticed inaccuracies in the middle of the keyboard as well > > > > With an initialized program (i.e. single oscillator piano 000)? Perhaps you > > are referring to the change in colour of the sound every two octaves? > believe this is because each two (or one?) octaves uses another sampled > > sound. Or perhaps it is an algorithm switch to produce the best sound > > possible from a limited sound sample. The N only contains 8 MB PCM sample > > ROM after all... I have noticed this phenomenon, but it is the *pitch* that is all wrong. Thanks for your comments. Tore

-----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.LUTH.SE> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> Date: Thursday, November 27, 1997 8:29 PM Subject: Re: My N is flat > >At 22:15 1997-11-26 +0100, Tore Lund wrote: > > >> >> (1) Initialize a program. >> >> (2) Set the volume to a comfortable level. >> >> (3) Play the lowest D of your N against the highest D. > > > >When Comparing D-2 and D-6 on my N364 they sound perfectly in tune. But > >perhaps you have a better ear for tones than I have. Or your N has gone > >haywire. > > >> >> I have noticed inaccuracies in the middle of the keyboard as well > > > >With an initialized program (i.e. single oscillator piano 000)? Perhaps you > >are referring to the change in colour of the sound every two octaves? I > >believe this is because each two (or one?) octaves uses another sampled > >sound. Or perhaps it is an algorithm switch to produce the best sound > >possible from a limited sound sample. The N only contains 8 MB PCM sample > >ROM after all... > > > >Besides, all samplebased synthesizers have that same problem. I noticed the same behaviour, but soon found out that the the piano sample is indead multisampled. I tried the same with a bass or saw sound and did not found any inaccuracies. Ben

On Thu, 27 Nov 1997, Steve Wallis wrote: > > Big thanks to the person who posted the N-disk's on that ftp site. Much > > appreciated :) > > > > regards, > > > > Steve Wallis > > *@*.net > > I appreciate the thanks. To all those on the list: I will provide ftp space for anything you wish to store for others to get. If there is interest, I'll set up a write only upload directory for things you want to upload. I'll check them and, if they're not going to get me into trouble, I'll move them to the public directory. Warez type stuff will be kept in the write only directory and will be available, if the members are interested, via email. If I provide this service, please don't overload it with a ton of un-necessary stuff. I can keep about 75mb available for upload/download space. Steve Day

I would like the a Raw Drums emailed to me ---------- > > From: Serf <*@*.NET> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: 6 disks of KORG sounds > > Date: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 3:26 PM > > > > Hi Everyone! > > OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy > > laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone. > > > > My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone... > > and what format should I use.... > > zip files....attachments...etc? > > > > Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and thought I > > was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants these > > files...and how should I send them?

Okay, I'm a bit confused now with all this file swapping and stuff. is everything being done over the net, or do I still need to send a SASE to someone to get some disks? Someone mentioned an ftp site... I got a file in the mail so I could put it on ftp, does the maintainer of this ftp site already have it, or do I send it to him? The file is: -rw------- 1 espel users 892619 Nov 26 15:20 n-disks.zip $ unzip -l n-disks.zip Archive: n-disks.zip Length Date Time Name ------ ---- ---- ---- 0 11-20-97 14:37 Power Disk/ 22486 11-20-97 14:40 Power Disk/X3DRUMS.SNG 69416 11-20-97 14:40 Power Disk/JACK_CV.PCG 69416 11-20-97 14:40 Power Disk/MICHE_CV.PCG 69416 11-20-97 14:40 Power Disk/SATO_CV.PCG 69416 11-20-97 14:40 Power Disk/STEVE_CV.PCG 69416 11-20-97 14:41 Power Disk/TIM_FILE.PCG 86278 11-20-97 14:41 Power Disk/TIM_FILE.SNG 69416 11-20-97 14:41 Power Disk/X3DRUMS.PCG 69416 11-20-97 14:41 Power Disk/X3P_LOAD.PCG 131590 11-20-97 14:41 Power Disk/X3P_LOAD.SNG 0 11-20-97 14:37 Killer Organs/ 6358 09-21-93 08:00 Killer Organs/BACH_5DM.MID 0 11-20-97 14:42 Killer Organs/!DESKTOP.FOL/ 24791 05-20-96 14:20 Killer Organs/!DESKTOP.FOL/!X3ORGAN.SPC 46363 05-20-96 14:21 Killer Organs/!DESKTOP.FOL/!X3ORGAN.SSN 69416 05-14-93 10:00 Killer Organs/X3DRUMS.PCG 22486 05-14-93 10:00 Killer Organs/X3DRUMS.SNG 69416 05-14-93 10:00 Killer Organs/X3ORGANS.PCG 67414 05-14-93 10:00 Killer Organs/X3ORGANS.SNG 69416 05-14-93 10:00 Killer Organs/X3P_LOAD.PCG 131590 05-14-93 10:00 Killer Organs/X3P_LOAD.SNG 0 11-20-97 14:37 Sound Alternatives/ 69416 05-14-93 10:00 Sound Alternatives/XSD_11.PCG 0 11-20-97 14:37 House and Funk/ 69416 05-14-93 10:00 House and Funk/XSD_12.PCG 0 11-20-97 14:37 Pop Performances/ 69416 05-14-93 10:00 Pop Performances/XSD_13.PCG 0 11-20-97 14:37 N364/ 33734 07-10-96 08:00 N364/RPPR.SNG 42085 07-15-93 18:17 N364/GMDEMO2.MID 69416 07-11-94 08:00 N364/I3CDBANK.PCG 69416 07-10-96 08:00 N364/INITIAL.PCG 2576 07-10-96 08:00 N364/INITIAL.PST 3718 07-10-96 08:00 N364/INITIAL.SNG 69416 07-10-96 08:00 N364/PRELOAD.PCG 2576 07-10-96 08:00 N364/PRELOAD.PST 123318 07-10-96 08:00 N364/PRELOAD.SNG 2576 07-10-96 08:00 N364/RPPR.PST 39717 07-15-93 17:55 N364/GMDEMO1.MID ------ ------- 1900312 40

I couldn't get any of the files that were sent to me in zipped form to work on my n364... I saved them all on separate disks, but when I try to use them it says "no file"... what gives??? Jon > > > >I would like the a Raw Drums emailed to me > > > >---------- >> >> From: Serf <*@*.NET> >> >> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >> >> Subject: 6 disks of KORG sounds >> >> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 3:26 PM >> >> >> >> Hi Everyone! >> >> OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy >> >> laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone. >> >> >> >> My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone... >> >> and what format should I use.... >> >> zip files....attachments...etc? >> >> >> >> Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and thought I >> >> was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants these >> >> files...and how should I send them? > >

At 01.07 1997-11-29 PST, you wrote: > >I couldn't get any of the files that were sent to me in zipped form to > >work on my n364... I saved them all on separate disks, but when I try to > >use them it says "no file"... what gives??? Jon > > > > Well. I suppose You have copied the directories that the files, in the zipped file, are stored in. Try to copy ONLY the files to the root directory on the disks. Watch what happens... Good luck! Leif P.S. I want to get my hands on the "Raw Drums" too... D.S.

At 15:53 1997-11-27 -0800, Steve Day wrote: > > I will provide ftp space for anything you wish to store for others to get. Great! Very nice! Fantastic! Brilliant! Please post additional info on how to use this service if you decide to start it! Cheers!

At 17:04 1997-11-28 +0100, Roger Espel Llima wrote: > > Okay, I'm a bit confused now with all this file swapping and stuff. is > > everything being done over the net, or do I still need to send a SASE to > > someone to get some disks? The archive containing the files from all extra disks except the "Raw Drums" disk has been put on an ftp server by Steve Day. But I guess you already noticed. :) Cheers!

Hi Jon, These files were mailed to u as ZIPped files. B4 u use them on the N, u need to unZIP them. and u need a program to do that. One such program is WINZIP for windows. and u can download the program for for free from www.winzip.com good luck Hasnat -----Original Message----- From: j. austin [SMTP:*@*.COM] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 1997 04:08 To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Re: 6 disks of KORG sounds I couldn't get any of the files that were sent to me in zipped form to work on my n364... I saved them all on separate disks, but when I try to use them it says "no file"... what gives??? Jon > > > >I would like the a Raw Drums emailed to me > > > >---------- >> >> From: Serf <*@*.NET> >> >> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >> >> Subject: 6 disks of KORG sounds >> >> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 3:26 PM >> >> >> >> Hi Everyone! >> >> OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy >> >> laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone. >> >> >> >> My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone... >> >> and what format should I use.... >> >> zip files....attachments...etc? >> >> >> >> Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and thought I >> >> was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants these >> >> files...and how should I send them? > >

On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > The archive containing the files from all extra disks except the "Raw > > Drums" disk has been put on an ftp server by Steve Day. But I guess you > > already noticed. :) > > > > Cheers! And, if someone wishes to provide that disk, I'll put it there as well. Steve

On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > At 15:53 1997-11-27 -0800, Steve Day wrote: > > >> > > I will provide ftp space for anything you wish to store for others to get. > > > > Great! Very nice! Fantastic! Brilliant! Please post additional info on how > > to use this service if you decide to start it! > > > > Cheers! It's ready to go. Just do an anonymous ftp to ftp.ccnet.com and change to users/sad001 to download files. There's an upload directory that you can change to but you won't be able to see what's in it. If I have set the permissions correctly you should be able to place new files there. I will check them out and then move them to the download dir if they are not commercial files. We'll have to discuss the handling of these types of files amongst ourselves. I will not make them publically available. Steve

uhh... yea i used winzip to unzip them... then copied them to disks.. i saw the .pcg, sng. files copy to each disk, and in windows they are there... on my n364 however, it says... "no file" thanks anyways.. Jon > > > >Hi Jon, > > > > > >These files were mailed to u as ZIPped files. B4 u use them on the N, = > >u need to unZIP them. and u need a program to do that. One such = > >program is WINZIP for windows. and u can download the program for for = > >free from > >www.winzip.com > > > >good luck > >Hasnat > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: j. austin [SMTP:*@*.COM] > >Sent: Saturday, November 29, 1997 04:08 > >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > >Subject: Re: 6 disks of KORG sounds > > > >I couldn't get any of the files that were sent to me in zipped form to > >work on my n364... I saved them all on separate disks, but when I try to > >use them it says "no file"... what gives??? Jon > > > > >> >> >> >>I would like the a Raw Drums emailed to me >> >> >> >>---------- >>> >>> From: Serf <*@*.NET> >>> >>> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >>> >>> Subject: 6 disks of KORG sounds >>> >>> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 3:26 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Everyone! >>> >>> OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy >>> >>> laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone. >>> >>> >>> >>> My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone... >>> >>> and what format should I use.... >>> >>> zip files....attachments...etc? >>> >>> >>> >>> Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and thought > >I >>> >>> was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants > >these >>> >>> files...and how should I send them? >> >> > > > > > > > >

> > > >uhh... yea i used winzip to unzip them... then copied them to disks.. i > >saw the .pcg, sng. files copy to each disk, and in windows they are > >there... on my n364 however, it says... "no file" thanks anyways.. Jon > > > > Oh, I forgot to ask.... Do I need to format the disk in my Korg before I copy the files onto the disk from my pc??? I guess I should try this and see if its the problem.... thanks, Jon

At 03:06 2-12-97 PST, you wrote: >> >> >> >>uhh... yea i used winzip to unzip them... then copied them to disks.. i >> >>saw the .pcg, sng. files copy to each disk, and in windows they are >> >>there... on my n364 however, it says... "no file" thanks anyways.. Jon > >Oh, I forgot to ask.... Do I need to format the disk in my Korg before I > >copy the files onto the disk from my pc??? I guess I should try this > >and see if its the problem.... thanks, Jon nope, you can have a dos formatted disk and copy all the stuff on it in the root (without the directories). But how do you try to load the disk, if you try a load all it won't work on mosts disks because some files just don't exists and you get an error, like the no file... Better try loading the pcg's/songs seperate. Hero Idema *@*.net Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services *@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl +31-(0)79-* *@*.net "rm -rf /" is the key to problem solving on unix machines

>> >>Oh, I forgot to ask.... Do I need to format the disk in my Korg before I >> >>copy the files onto the disk from my pc??? I guess I should try this >> >>and see if its the problem.... thanks, Jon > > > >nope, you can have a dos formatted disk and copy all the stuff on it in > >the root (without the directories). > >But how do you try to load the disk, if you try a load all it won't work > >on mosts disks because some files just don't exists and you get an error, > >like the no file... > >Better try loading the pcg's/songs seperate. > > > >Hero Idema > >*@*.net > > oK, i'LL give that a try.....thanks... any other ideas anyone??? Jon

sorry I misread this the first time... I tried loading them seperately, and all at once.. same effect... on a related note.. I downloaded the "dance" sounds from a page and they weren't zipped, and they work fine... hmmmmmmm.. any more ideas? Jon > >nope, you can have a dos formatted disk and copy all the stuff on it in > >the root (without the directories). > >But how do you try to load the disk, if you try a load all it won't work > >on mosts disks because some files just don't exists and you get an error, > >like the no file... > >Better try loading the pcg's/songs seperate. > > > >Hero Idema > >*@*.net > > > > Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services > > *@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl > > +31-(0)79-* *@*.net > > "rm -rf /" is the key to problem solving on unix machines > >

Here's a reply from a happy new N264 owner. (was going for a XP-80 :( but neeeh, The N is much better. Brought back some memories of my old and sold DW8000). You can use load all, but because there are no pattern files (RPPS etc.) on the X3 or simular the N will say at the end of the file load "no file". The .PCG and .SNG data is however loaded and better yet, present in your synth. Just hit START/STOP and listen to the songs or play the sounds from bank A or B. Ben > >uhh... yea i used winzip to unzip them... then copied them to disks.. i > >saw the .pcg, sng. files copy to each disk, and in windows they are > >there... on my n364 however, it says... "no file" thanks anyways.. Jon > > > > >> >> >> >>Hi Jon, >> >> >> >> >> >>These files were mailed to u as ZIPped files. B4 u use them on the N, > >= >> >>u need to unZIP them. and u need a program to do that. One such = >> >>program is WINZIP for windows. and u can download the program for for > >= >> >>free from >> >>www.winzip.com >> >> >> >>good luck >> >>Hasnat >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: j. austin [SMTP:*@*.COM] >> >>Sent: Saturday, November 29, 1997 04:08 >> >>To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >> >>Subject: Re: 6 disks of KORG sounds >> >> >> >>I couldn't get any of the files that were sent to me in zipped form to >> >>work on my n364... I saved them all on separate disks, but when I try > >to >> >>use them it says "no file"... what gives??? Jon >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>I would like the a Raw Drums emailed to me >>> >>> >>> >>>---------- >>>> >>>> From: Serf <*@*.NET> >>>> >>>> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >>>> >>>> Subject: 6 disks of KORG sounds >>>> >>>> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 3:26 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Everyone! >>>> >>>> OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy >>>> >>>> laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone... >>>> >>>> and what format should I use.... >>>> >>>> zip files....attachments...etc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and > >thought >> >>I >>>> >>>> was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants >> >>these >>>> >>>> files...and how should I send them? >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >

is there a page with progs to download (free!)for N364 i'm new in this list and i want to coperate with yours visit my page http://araucaria.cec.uchile.cl/~malatorr i have more than 1000 midis

At 19:37 1997-12-02 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: > > is there a page with progs to download (free!)for N364 There is probably no such page, since there are no finished programs for the N around yet. Atleast as far as I know. Work is however in progress by some of the members of this list to develop N-specific programs. As soon as there is a finished version of one of their programs you will all be notified! Also, the developers of the program Unisyn are searching for people who want to beta-test and contribute to their new N-specific part, but it seems like you have to be a registered user of Unisyn first. :( Cheers!

> > does anyone know how I can edit a song that was created on other > > synth. My friend has a Roland XP50 and I tried to play some of his > > normal GM songs (not using his patches) on my N but I couldn't edit > > them. Does anybody know how to do it? What I basically did is load > > his file to my N as a SMF and played them on it. Some of the tracks > > are fine but some tracks are playing wrong Programs. How can I fix > > this? How do you edit the program settings in a song? This also applies if you load in a MIDI file, and then want to change some of the settings. This is what I found out: 1. Get into the sequencer mode and select the song you have loaded. 2. Push the 'track' button 3. Using the Yes/No buttons select the track you wish to change. The display shows, as an example: A61: Full Pipes TR01 A61 120 CNT 4. Press the right arrow key to go to the program number A61/ A61 should now be flashing. 5. Press 'Rec/Write' 6. Change the program number to the one you want with the Yes/No buttons or the slider, 7. Press 'Rec/Write' Your change has now been made. 8. Press 'start/stop' to hear the effect of your change Cheers

hi ppl does KORG has an ONLINE help site or something, at least an EMAIL support thing?

> >Also, the developers of the program Unisyn are searching for people who > >want to beta-test and contribute to their new N-specific part, but it seems > >like you have to be a registered user of Unisyn first. :( > > > >Cheers! The new N-specific parts!!! What is that? Don´t tell me the Korg people are updating the N364 synths software inside? If it is true I am the first who wants to know about the changes compared to the old program or have I misunderstood the whole thing? I assume it´s a price tag to it too? Leif

At 21:59 1997-12-03 -0500, Hasnat Mosharraf wrote: > > does KORG has an ONLINE help site or something, at least an EMAIL support > > thing? Email: *@*.com WWW: www.korg.com (not a help page though) Have you got questions that can't be answered by this list? ;)

While searching the web i came across an X3 site that has some amazing programs on it. Some of them of dupes of whats already out there on other x3 and N364 sites but most are not. For some quality pcg's goto: http://members.tor.shaw.wave.ca/%7Emarkr/korg.html Check out the KNP_VOL1.PCG and KNP_VOL5.PCG (very high quality)

(.SNG and .PCG) http://araucaria.cec.uchile.cl/~malatorr/korg.html

go here to know it: http://ganymede.jan.com/~john/n364page.html then click on THE BULLETIN BOARD good luck!

People, I will propose this news group in alt.config if I can get enough support from people on this list. There are certain individuals in alt.config that are on little power trips and I have done my best to piss them off. They can't stop me from creating this group nor can they remove it once I have created it. What I ask is for all those interested in seeing this group come into existance is to subscribe to alt.config and support me on the proposal. I expect to get flack from "felonyphil" (Phil Oliver) and "bedwarm" (Bobby Tendinitis) both of whom are total jerks. Steve Day

-----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.LUTH.SE] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 1997 17:33 To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: KORG support address At 21:59 1997-12-03 -0500, Hasnat Mosharraf wrote: > > does KORG has an ONLINE help site or something, at least an EMAIL support > > thing? Email: *@*.com WWW: www.korg.com (not a help page though) Have you got questions that can't be answered by this list? ;) [Hasnat Mosharraf] It's not that. I just wanted know if there is any helpline out there on the net from KORG :)

hi guys I need to know something. I am in Canada and over here all electrical outlets are 110V 50hz. I am thinking of going to Asia for a while and thinking of taking the N with me. Over there I know they run on 220V and 60Hz. I saw somewhere that says N needs 12W and can run on 50/60Hz and AC local voltage. Does that 'local voltage' means I can run it whereever I am on this planet? as long as it 50/60 hz? See I don't think I am in a mood to plug my N into a 220V outlet and blow it up. So if u guys can help I will appreciate. Thanx Hasnat

Thanx Hasna

Hasnat Mosharraf wrote: > > > > hi guys > > > > I need to know something. I am in Canada and over here all electrical outlets are 110V 50hz. I am thinking of going to Asia for a while and thinking of taking the N with me. Over there I know they run on 220V and 60Hz. I saw somewhere that says N needs 12W and can run on 50/60Hz and AC local voltage. Does that 'local voltage' means I can run it whereever I am on this planet? as long as it 50/60 hz? > > See I don't think I am in a mood to plug my N into a 220V outlet and blow it up. So if u guys can help I will appreciate. > > > > Thanx > > Hasnat I live in Australia. The voltage here is 240V 50Hz, similar to SE Asia, apart from Japan, China, and I think Thailand. My N364 is clearly labeled 240V 50-60Hz. So my guess is that the machine does not have a universal power supply. I would not plug yours into anything other than 110V unless you get clear indication that it can support any voltage. Peter

>> >> I need to know something. I am in Canada and over here all electrical outlets are 110V 50hz. I am thinking of going to Asia for a while and thinking of taking the N with me. Over there I know they run on 220V and 60Hz. I saw somewhere that says N needs 12W and can run on 50/60Hz and AC local voltage. Does that 'local voltage' means I can run it whereever I am on this planet? as long as it 50/60 hz? >> >> See I don't think I am in a mood to plug my N into a 220V outlet and blow it up. So if u guys can help I will appreciate. > >I live in Australia. The voltage here is 240V 50Hz, similar to SE Asia, > >apart from Japan, China, and I think Thailand. > > > >My N364 is clearly labeled 240V 50-60Hz. So my guess is that the machine > >does not have a universal power supply. I would not plug yours into > >anything other than 110V unless you get clear indication that it can > >support any voltage. This is true. The N364 for the Canadian trade are different from the Europeean or Asian Korg's. If you want to use your N in Asia you have to use an adapter called 'variac' (I hope that the name is similar also in English) that reduce the 220 V to 110 V. You don't have to worry about the Hz of the current supply. I know it 'cause the boy that play the bass in my band use it to play with a Fx processor bought in America also here in Italy. I hope I've helped you bye Francesco P.s. Sorry for my English...

Hasnat Mosharraf wrote: > > > > What's a patch editor? what does it do? > > > > Thanx > > Hasna > > Hi, patch editor is a software that allows user to load and store patches and bank of patches ( program & combi in N364 ) and edit the parameters. So you don't need to touch even a single button of your keyboard when you want to edit the sounds. Right now, I think there is no spesific N364 editor available, but I heard that some people are working on it...must be patient. ( to all of you, programmers of N364 editor, don't forget to notify this mailing list if there's one ready ) Hope it helps, August F H Hardiman w/ big thanks to Hero Idema & Kenneth Jonsson for making this mailing list...

Hi! Does any of you have cakewalk instrument definition for the N364? I accidentally deleted my own, and in the Cakewalk version i am currently using, I am not allowed to make my own .ins files! Can anybody help me out? Ole *@*.no

At 21:25 1997-12-08 +0100, Ole Magnus Marksten wrote: > > Does any of you have cakewalk instrument definition for the N364? Yes! Will send it to you privatly. Is anybody else also interested?

To all N-list members: Please try to write your postings/replies so they are readable. When you reply, try to remove text that aren't needed. Some of the postings on this list have been very hard to read. Sorry for complaining, but I'm just trying to make it easier for everybody on the list to read the mails that are posted... Cheers!

At 01:18 1997-12-09 +0700, August F H Hardiman wrote: > > Right now, I think there is no spesific N364 editor available, but I > > heard that some people are working on it...must be patient. ( to all of > > you, programmers of N364 editor, don't forget to notify this mailing > > list if there's one ready ) Everybody will be notified as soon as there is a functional beta version out. Will probably take a while though. As said above, be patient, and time will show.

At 22:29 1997-12-04 +0100, Leif Lund wrote: Unisyn: > > The new N-specific parts!!! What is that? Don´t tell me the Korg people are > > updating the N364 synths software inside? If it is true I am the first who > > wants to know about the changes compared to the old program or have I > > misunderstood the whole thing? I assume it´s a price tag to it too? You misunderstood it alright. :) I suppose I wasn't very clear on what I meant. Unisyn is a general synthesizer librarian/something/etc and the programmers want to include support for the KORG N-series. You have to be a registered user of Unisyn to become a beta tester though.

At 00:39 9-12-97 +0100, you wrote: > >At 21:25 1997-12-08 +0100, Ole Magnus Marksten wrote: >> >> Does any of you have cakewalk instrument definition for the N364? > > > >Yes! Will send it to you privatly. Is anybody else also interested? > > Yes, I am ! Could you please send it to me ? (as attachment) Thanks in advance ! Fedde Bouwman Holland

At 12:37 1997-12-05 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: > > http://ganymede.jan.com/~john/n364page.html The address ganymede.jan.com doesn't seem to have a DNS entry? Did you perhaps misspell it? Cheers!

sorry i have made a big mistake ===> http://ganymede.jtan.com/~john/n364page.htm On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > At 12:37 1997-12-05 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: >> > > http://ganymede.jan.com/~john/n364page.html > > > > The address ganymede.jan.com doesn't seem to have a DNS entry? Did you > > perhaps misspell it? > > > > Cheers!

> > Could you please send it to me ? (as attachment) Coming right up! Deleted: KorgN364.ins An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were: Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="KorgN364.ins" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="KorgN364.ins" Attachments: Deleted: KorgN364.ins 253 bytes

People, Please ignore any returned messages from me that request "rabbit" in the subject line. I am being subjected to mailbombing by some idiot and I have installed software to block it. Unfortunately it's having a problem with this list because the list goes to N-LIST rather than being from N-LIST. As mail is received, I am adding the name of any person who has gotten a rabbit to to my accpet list and that will take care of it. I'm working with the author of the software to get a permanent fix. Sorry for the inconvience. Steve Day

At 16:50 1997-12-09 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: > > sorry i have made a big mistake ===> > > > > http://ganymede.jtan.com/~john/n364page.htm Now, /~john/n364page.htm doesn't seem to exist? Are you perhaps referring to http://www.jtan.com/~john/ ??

At 02:53 1997-12-05 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: > > For some quality pcg's goto: > > http://members.tor.shaw.wave.ca/%7Emarkr/korg.html Thanks for the tip! There are infact a good bunch of PCGs (especially the zipped ones). Have found a couple of nice sounds!

Hello people, currently we have some problems with our mail server on which the listserver is running. This will cause some delay in the deliverance of some mail or could even bounce some mail. We are working very hard to get this thing running normally again. Just wanted to inform you of this. Greetings, Hero Idema Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services *@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl +31-(0)79-* *@*.net "rm -rf /" is the key to problem solving on unix machines

try this: http://www.kd3bj.ampr.org/~john/n364page.html On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > At 16:50 1997-12-09 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: >> > > sorry i have made a big mistake ===> >> > > >> > > http://ganymede.jtan.com/~john/n364page.htm > > > > Now, /~john/n364page.htm doesn't seem to exist? > > > > Are you perhaps referring to http://www.jtan.com/~john/ ??

Hello! I started composing N-specific music using a computer sequencer (a Cubase derivative on my PC) for the first time two days ago, and thought I'd share two important tips I found usable: To put the N in seq-mode and on song 9, create a General MIDI reset message as the following SysEx code: F0,7E,7F,09,01,F7 and have it sent a short while before any notes are played. Perhaps there is a way to let the sequencer do this automatically at start-up? Another tip, usable if you have an "audio"-capable (i.e. sample-capable) sequencer: If you want to sequence programs/combis that use FX settings very different from the settings you want to use in the N-sequencer, then do like this: 1. Compose the song using the same FX settings in seq-mode. 2. Play each track which has to use different FX settings separately (while having the N in prog or combi mode) and at the same time record the N output as audio. 3. Replace the midi track(s) with the new audio track(s) respectively. Atleast this method works fine for me. Now it's possible to play program A04 (MonsterWah) using the value slider (to create massive wah) and use it in your songs without affecting the FX settings for the other progs/combis! The same goes for all the other sounds with extra-terrestrial FX settings. :) The catch? Each minute of 44.1 kHz 16-bit sampled stereo audio uses about 10 MB of storage space. And a soundcard with low noise is preferable.

can i send my own works to the n-list ?

At 12:59 15-12-97 -0300, you wrote: > >can i send my own works to the n-list ? I don't mind sending them to the list, dunno about the rest of you people... But if you do, please send them compressed with zip or something like that... that will reduce download times for people with modems.. .(like me)... :) Hero

LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: > > > > can i send my own works to the n-list ? I am currently working on a web site that will have a section for users works. If you would like your songs available there, please let me know. You may email me the song at: *@*.com I expect this site to be up soon after the holidays. If anyone else has songs they would like to appear, please send them to me. I am also looking for tips & tricks you have. Thank you all! Erik

At 10:41 1997-12-15 -0600, Erik Olson wrote: > > I am currently working on a web site that will have a section for users > > works. If you would like your songs available there, please let me know. > > > > If anyone else has songs they would like to appear, please send them to > > me. I am also looking for tips & tricks you have. You may use any tip/trick posted here directly on your page if you like. I might go through all mails since June '97 when this list was first started and create a kind of a FAQ, but I can't promise anything... Oh, and I'll send you a midi/.sng if I eventually manage to finish a song or two. :)

At 12:59 1997-12-15 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: > > can i send my own works to the n-list ? Please do! This goes for everybody else too! Any N-specific music is welcome (well, any of your not-so-very-N-specific midi files too :) )!! But, as said before, please pack with zip first (if possible).

Is anyone on the N-list using Freestyle by MOTU to drive their N364. I am looking for an instrument definition that will work for this synth. Thanks, Rich

At 12:59 15-12-97 -0300, you wrote: > >can i send my own works to the n-list ? I have a direct connection to internet ( T1 ), so I won't complain if you send some attachments... (and I think nobody will, as long as the files are kept small) Personally I am looking for some cool RPPR patterns, does anybody have them ? By the way, is the N264 fully compatible with the X3 ? So can I use P/C/G files from the X3 ? (I have heard that some banks (B,C and D ?) of the N-series are from the X-series...) Fedde Bouwman

Hi, Since two weeks I am the owner of a N264 and I have a X5 for several years. You are right, the C/D banks are equally to the X5 and probably also to the X5. The A and B banks of the N264 use some specific N264 waveforms, while the C/D banks are using only X5/X3 banks. This means, the three synths are compatible, although some waveforms will only 'run' on the N264 (or X5D, the expanded version of the X5). It is possible to copy banks between the X5, X3 and N264. There are also conversion programs from 01W/FD <-> X5, X3, N264. (By the way, are you Dutch ? I am). Greetings, Michel ---------- > > From: Fedde Bouwman <f.s.*@*.UTWENTE.NL> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: sending .sng to n-list > > Date: maandag 15 december 1997 22:56 > > > > At 12:59 15-12-97 -0300, you wrote: >> > >can i send my own works to the n-list ? > > > > I have a direct connection to internet ( T1 ), so I won't complain if you > > send some > > attachments... (and I think nobody will, as long as the files are > > kept small) > > > > Personally I am looking for some cool RPPR patterns, does anybody have them ? > > > > By the way, is the N264 fully compatible with the X3 ? > > So can I use P/C/G files from the X3 ? > > (I have heard that some banks (B,C and D ?) of the N-series are from the > > X-series...) > > > > Fedde Bouwman

At 22:56 1997-12-15 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote: > > By the way, is the N264 fully compatible with the X3 ? I think so. > > So can I use P/C/G files from the X3 ? Yes. Works perfectly well, except for some cases where the fx generators get spooked (as with B20 Sine Solo in Dance.PCG). But it can be fixed easily by changing a parameter or two. Cheers!

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At 00:12 16-12-97 +0100, you wrote: >> >> So can I use P/C/G files from the X3 ? > > > >Yes. Works perfectly well, except for some cases where the fx generators > >get spooked (as with B20 Sine Solo in Dance.PCG). But it can be fixed > >easily by changing a parameter or two. > > Cool ! But what do you mean with spooked fx generators ? Are the parameters of the fx generator swapped ? BTW: I bought my N264 last friday, so I still haven't heard all (936 !) internal sounds. But it's always nice to know that there are a lot more sounds... I must say that I love the programs/combis of the N264. Particulary the space/ambient sounds, the Rock Piano (!), and the organs. (although I think that the rotary speaker from my Yamaha TG-300 sounds better for some reason, maybe a matter of setting parameters) I found some .PCG files for the N264 on one of the websites mentioned in earlier mailings. (thanx !) I haven't had time to try them but I am wondering: can those programs sound completely different than the original programs ? (as the original programs sport almost all sounds you would expect from a synthesizer and other programs will use the same multisounds) BTW 2: are the multisounds in 22 khz ? (16 bit ?) If I compare my N264 with the Roland XP-50 (from a friend), I find that the sounds of the XP-50 are more clear (more high frequencies). But the sounds of the Korg are much fatter, so I like the Korg more :-) Greetz, Fedde Bouwman Student Electrical Engineering :-) Holland

hello everybody! it's my first time (in this and in any list) and i hope we'll have a good relationship from now on. Does anybody know how can i get the drum patterns for my n364? my keyboard came with all the programs, combinations and demo songs, but i think without the patterns (maybe im doing something wrong?). well, hope to hear from you soon and please let me know if i make some mistake in using the list. beny

yes, you just got to put in yahoo X3 and you`ll find lots of nice .sng and .pcg for X3 compatible with N- On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Fedde Bouwman wrote: > > At 12:59 15-12-97 -0300, you wrote: >> > >can i send my own works to the n-list ? > > > > I have a direct connection to internet ( T1 ), so I won't complain if you > > send some > > attachments... (and I think nobody will, as long as the files are > > kept small) > > > > Personally I am looking for some cool RPPR patterns, does anybody have them ? > > > > By the way, is the N264 fully compatible with the X3 ? > > So can I use P/C/G files from the X3 ? > > (I have heard that some banks (B,C and D ?) of the N-series are from the > > X-series...) > > > > Fedde Bouwman > >

I am a future informatic ingenier and i like really much to compose song in my keybord in i think if you like really good music you will enjoy these ones... What you got to do: 1- first you got to use pkunzip free.zip (my file in attachment place) 2-you have to load all in your n-synth 3- press start and fly just ten minutes of music from the galaxy 4- send my your comments and i`ll be happy because i don`t have any other form to make people to lisent my works. I think music would must to be free in the world because music is the only way to get the peace and union between human race (i speak very difficult english, excuse me! music will be our lenguage) Mariano Latorre Aracena Santiago de Chile, Sudamerica

On Tue, Dec 16, 1997 at 01:49:06PM -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: > > 1- first you got to use pkunzip free.zip (my file in attachment place) We'd have listened, but you forgot to send the attachment...

if you hear these ones please send comments! Deleted: free.zip An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were: Content-Type: APPLICATION/ZIP; name="free.zip" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.971216185658.*@*> Content-Description: Attachments: Deleted: free.zip 263 bytes

in my keybord in i think if you like really good music you will enjoy these ones... What you got to do: 1- first you got to use pkunzip free.zip (my file in attachment place) 2-you have to load all in your n-synth 3- press start and fly just ten minutes of music from the galaxy 4- send my your comments and i`ll be happy because i don`t have any other form to make people to lisent my works. I think music would must to be free in the world because music is the only way to get the peace and union between human race (i speak very difficult english, excuse me! music will be our lenguage) Mariano Latorre Aracena Santiago de Chile, Sudamerica Attachments: free.zip 49,8 KB

i can send it again ... mariano latorre santiago de chile sudamerica

remember X and some i series are compatible with N-series! ====>>> http://araucaria.cec.uchile.cl/~malatorr/korg.html

At 02:11 1997-12-16 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote: >> >> fx generators get spooked (as with B20 Sine Solo in Dance.PCG) > > > > But what do you mean with spooked fx generators ? Are the parameters of the > > fx generator swapped ? You'll hear a loud TWEEEEEEEET when you try to play that particular program. This seems to be because one of the generators starts feeding itself back for some odd reason. It is fixed by changing a delay time parameter from 800 ms to something else. Must be an error in the X3-to-N PCG file format converter... > > I haven't had time to try them but I am wondering: can those programs sound > > completely different than the original programs? Yes. Eventhough most (?) samples are used in the preloaded sounds you can still combine them in about 200.000 different ways when in program mode. When creating crazy techno sounds this is most evident. :) Though the majority of the programs in most PCGs sound a bit the same, but that's not just because the samples are the same. The programmers have probably been inspired by one another without knowing it, or they have borrowed sounds from other PCGs and changed them a little. > > BTW 2: are the multisounds in 22 khz ? (16 bit ?) No clue, but it would be interesting to know. 8 MB ROM isn't very much, but on the other hand most samples have very short (but indeed perfect) loops, so it's not obvious how to calculate the quality. 22 kHz 16-bit mono is probably a good guess. It could infact be 8-bit. I went through some of the multisounds and discovered that probably a third or more don't have an own dedicated sample though. E.g. [sound] and [sound.LP] probably uses the same sample but with different offsets (the LP version has no distinct attack, probably because the start of the sample is skipped). > > But the sounds of the Korg are much fatter, so I like the Korg more :-) Yes, KORG's synthesizing process is rather nice. Most samples would probably sound like crap without it... :D Cheers!

At 18:58 1997-12-16 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: > > I am a future informatic ingenier and i like really much to compose song > > in my keybord in i think if you like really good music you will enjoy > > these ones... I definately enjoyed these songs! Thanks a lot for mailing them!! My favourite is song 2 - "LUNA-moon". The other two are also nice. I'll take the liberty to upload "free.zip" to ftp.ccnet.com (provided by Steve Day) if nobody else has already done this. This will make it possible to download it from: ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001 as soon as Steve has moved it to that directory. Put this address in your web-browser bookmarks (be it Netscape Navigator, Internet Explorer or any other browser that supports ftp). Or use your favourite FTP program. Cheers!

A question: I have different sets of sound in some .pcg files. Now, I also need to put some of the sounds from different files together. An example could be if the "bluesharp" on blues.pcg probably would sound marvelous with the "bestorgan" on organs.pcg. How do I put them on the same file, for example favorite.pcg? An answer to this will be very welcome Leif

At 11:52 18-12-97 +0100, you wrote: > >A question: > > > >I have different sets of sound in some .pcg files. Now, I also need to put > >some of the sounds from different files together. An example could be if the > >"bluesharp" on blues.pcg probably would sound marvelous with the "bestorgan" > >on organs.pcg. How do I put them on the same file, for example favorite.pcg? > > > >An answer to this will be very welcome > > Load the pcg where that sound is in, save 1 sound (the sound you want...), load the other pcg and load the 1 sound you just saved... I never tried it, but it should be working... Hero Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services *@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl +31-(0)79-* *@*.net "rm -rf /" is the key to problem solving on unix machines

On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > At 18:58 1997-12-16 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: > > >> > > I am a future informatic ingenier and i like really much to compose song >> > > in my keybord in i think if you like really good music you will enjoy >> > > these ones... > > > > I definately enjoyed these songs! Thanks a lot for mailing them!! thank you! > > > > My favourite is song 2 - "LUNA-moon". The other two are also nice. this is the last i compose (one week ago) I hear it all the time at max volume level!!! > > > > I'll take the liberty to upload "free.zip" to ftp.ccnet.com (provided by > > Steve Day) if nobody else has already done this. This will make it possible > > to download it from: > > > > ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001 ok. but how can people download my file?, wath would they got to do? download n-disks.zip file? > > > > as soon as Steve has moved it to that directory. Put this address in your > > web-browser bookmarks (be it Netscape Navigator, Internet Explorer or any > > other browser that supports ftp). Or use your favourite FTP program. > > > > Cheers!

At 12:09 1997-12-18 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: >> > > I'll take the liberty to upload "free.zip" to ftp.ccnet.com (provided by >> > > Steve Day) if nobody else has already done this. > > > > ok. but how can people download my file?, wath would they got to do? > > download n-disks.zip file? No. I've uploaded the file "free.zip" you mailed. Therefore it can be downloaded under the same name (and size) as soon as Steve has put it into the download directory. Anybody with a modern webbrowser should be able to download the file as soon as it's made available by typing: ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ into the URL field of their browsers.

>> > >I have different sets of sound in some .pcg files. Now, I also need to put >> > >some of the sounds from different files together. An example could be if the >> > >"bluesharp" on blues.pcg probably would sound marvelous with the "bestorgan" >> > >on organs.pcg. How do I put them on the same file, for example favorite.pcg? > > > > Load the pcg where that sound is in, save 1 sound (the sound you want...), > > load the other pcg and load the 1 sound you just saved... Either do this, or get your hands on a sound librarian for the X3 (there are some around for both Mac and Windows-PC). Many PCGs around are originally for the X3 so it should work well. Or you can wait a while and there might be a librarian especially for the N. As I've said before, work is being done on this.

At 11:52 AM 12/18/97 +0100, you wrote: > >A question: > > > >I have different sets of sound in some .pcg files. Now, I also need to put > >some of the sounds from different files together. An example could be if the > >"bluesharp" on blues.pcg probably would sound marvelous with the "bestorgan" > >on organs.pcg. How do I put them on the same file, for example favorite.pcg? > > > >An answer to this will be very welcome > > > >Leif > > You can manually save individual programs and combinations using your n364 tho this really is time consuming. You best bet is grab xedit (x3 editor). Most functions are crippled(in the shareware version) but the librarian is totally intact so you can endessly costimize your .pcg files. regards, Steve Wallis

On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > At 12:09 1997-12-18 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: > > >>> > > > I'll take the liberty to upload "free.zip" to ftp.ccnet.com (provided by >>> > > > Steve Day) if nobody else has already done this. >> > > >> > > ok. but how can people download my file?, wath would they got to do? >> > > download n-disks.zip file? > > > > No. I've uploaded the file "free.zip" you mailed. Therefore it can be > > downloaded under the same name (and size) as soon as Steve has put it into > > the download directory. Anybody with a modern webbrowser should be able to > > download the file as soon as it's made available by typing: > > > > ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ I put it as "songs1.zip". There is a text file in the zip and in the directory that show the contents. I thought it would be better to identify it as containing songs and to establish a pattern for all files containing music for future uploads. If this is not suitable, please let me know and I'll follow what the majority wants. Merry Christmas. Steve

At 12:41 1997-12-19 -0800, Steve Day wrote: Free.zip: > > I put it as "songs1.zip". There is a text file in the zip and in the > > directory that show the contents. I thought it would be better to identify > > it as containing songs and to establish a pattern for all files containing > > music for future uploads. That's fine, but it would be nice if a description text also would be included in the zip and in the index. Or perhaps a separate index file (in the main directory) which only contains descriptions of the files (such as who created the song/pattern/PCG and the title of the production). Thanks!

How can I set SEND C and/or SEND D in seq edit mode page 1A to PRG by sending MIDI controller data from an external sequencer? I know it's possible to set send C with controller 91 and send D with controller 93, but the parameter range 0 to 127 doesn't seem to include PRG, i.e. I can set SEND C/D to 0 through 9, but not to PRG!?!? These are the parameter intervals I've found: Send C/D Parameter interval -------- ------------------ 0 [ 0 , 13] 1 [ 14 , 26] 2 [ 27 , 40] 3 [ 41 , 53] 4 [ 54 , 67] 5 [ 68 , 80] 6 [ 81 , 94] 7 [ 95 , 107] 8 [108 , 121] 9 [122 , 127] PRG ??????????? Oh, and a merry christmas to those of you who celebrate it (I do)! Cheers!

Hello, I got a question, are file format specs known from the pcg files or sng files? I would like to hack a little bit into these files... Greetings, Hero ps. I saw the name Fedde on the list, is this the same Fedde who worked at the MegaZone in Scheveningen ?

The file formats are not described exactly. But most of the contents seem to follow the descriptions for the MIDI data dump formats in the back of the thick book. Other than that, there is a short header which you can see if you display the file. Hope this helps Peter Hero Idema wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I got a question, are file format specs known from the pcg files or sng files? > > I would like to hack a little bit into these files... > > > > Greetings, > > Hero > > > > ps. I saw the name Fedde on the list, is this the same Fedde who worked > > at the MegaZone in Scheveningen ? > > _____________________ > > Hero Idema > > *@*.net > > http://www.imagica.net > > telnet://imagica.net:4000 > > _____________________

I own a N264 for some weeks now and it seems that the N264 is going to be taken out of production. (I bought it in the Netherlans BTW). I know that the shop had it in store for about 6 months and I was wondering if there is a software upgrade available from Korg. If this is nescesarry ofcourse. Q1: Is there a way to find out the software version inside the Korg N264 by keeping one or more keys pressed while powering up???? Q2: Also it came without the English manual. Is there a way to order them somewhere? Q3: Does anybody have the N264 namefile for Opcode's Vision for Windows? Q4: Is a good Windows editor available for the N-series, besides the X-Edit?? Looking forward to a reply. Merry Christmas, Ben

> > it seems that the N264 is going to be taken out of production. (I bought it in > > the Netherlans BTW). It is!? > > I know that the shop had it in store for about 6 months and I was wondering > > if there is a software upgrade available from Korg. If this is nescesarry > > ofcourse. Please specify what you mean with software upgrade. Upgrade to what? > > Q1: Is there a way to find out the software version inside the Korg N264 > > by keeping one or more keys pressed while powering up???? I don't know, but it should be possible to "order" version information via a MIDI SysEx code. Check page 214 in the Reference Guide (if you have it?) under table 1-4. There you can find what the N will reply, but I don't know which SysEx order code to send. Does anybody know how to send a SysEx INQUIRY MESSAGE REQUEST? Oh, by the way, the MIDI implementation chart STINKS! :( > > Q2: Also it came without the English manual. Is there a way to order them > > somewhere? Yes. Visit KORG's homepage at http://www.korg.com, and you'll find an ordering page after a few moments of searching. But first visit the shop where you bought your N and tell them to do it for you, since you should have been given the two English manuals (Basic Guide and Reference Guide) as well as your local-language version of the Basic Guide in the package. > > Q4: Is a good Windows editor available for the N-series, besides the > > X-Edit?? Not yet, but in a while. Will inform you all when there is one around.

At 20:48 24-12-97 +0100, you wrote: > >I own a N264 for some weeks now and it seems that the N264 is going to be > >taken out of production. (I bought it in the Netherlans BTW). The N264 is taken out of production ??? Why ??? And is the N364 still in production ??? Greetz, Fedde Bouwman

>> > >I own a N264 for some weeks now and it seems that the N264 is going to be >> > >taken out of production. (I bought it in the Netherlans BTW). No need to panic, dudes, both models are still in production. They are not going out of production. Or, to put it another way, they will still be produced for some time yet, I can assure you. Regards, jg.

On Mon, 22 Dec 1997, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > At 12:41 1997-12-19 -0800, Steve Day wrote: > > > > Free.zip: > > >> > > I put it as "songs1.zip". There is a text file in the zip and in the >> > > directory that show the contents. I thought it would be better to identify >> > > it as containing songs and to establish a pattern for all files containing >> > > music for future uploads. > > > > That's fine, but it would be nice if a description text also would be > > included in the zip and in the index. Or perhaps a separate index file (in > > the main directory) which only contains descriptions of the files (such as > > who created the song/pattern/PCG and the title of the production). good idea, but who can do this, i don't know how to do it... if somebody want to this work please e-mail me so we could make this file (i'm autor) > > > > Thanks!

Hi there, I got two things... First I made a simple sng header text file which you can include in a package with songs/pcgs/rpprs, it's below in this mail including an example. Please sent your comments, changes etc. Secondly, I want to set up a kind of ftp-archive for the songs on my ftp server (ftp.imagica.net), but I saw on the list some-one else is having some ftp space available, and I don't want to make him angry by stealing his idea. Maybe we can work some kind of mirroring stuff out... On this ftp server I can also publish the listserv archive every week or something. Please sent some comments on this... I'm very interested in what you think... I also like it very much to listen to songs created by other people... Greetings from the Netherlands, Hero Idema --- Cut --- Korg N264/N364 Song/PCG Header ------------------------------ Author(s): Date: MM/DD/YYYY Package contains Songs : Yes/No New PCG: Yes/No RPPR : Yes/No Copy the next header for each song/rppr: Songs: --- Song nr : 0..9 Title : Compose date: MM/DD/YYYY Style : Comments : --- Rppr's: --- Rppr nr : 0..9 Style : Compose date: MM/DD/YYYY Comments : --- PCG's: --- Date : MM/DD/YYYY Comments : Progs/Combi : Banks/Groups: --- --- End of header file.... --- Now a filled in example... Remember, this is an example, my playing capabilities are like those from a 3 year old dude.... :) --- Example --- Korg N264/N364 Song/PCG Header ------------------------------ Author(s): Hero Idema Date: 01/06/1998 Package contains Songs : Yes New PCG: Yes RPPR : No Copy the next header for each song/rppr: Songs: --- Song nr : 0 Title : Swoosh Compose date: 01/01/1998 Style : Trance (yeah... like it a lot) Comments : Goa style trance song --- Song nr : 1 Title : Bla Compose date: 01/02/1998 Style : Classical Comments : Lots of triangles --- PCG's: --- Date : 01/06/1998 Comments : Lots of different programs including the amazing triangle sound... Progs/Combi : Only programs this time, no combi's Banks/Groups: Just the A bank of the program memory ---

On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Hero Idema wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > Secondly, I want to set up a kind of ftp-archive for the songs on my ftp server > > (ftp.imagica.net), but I saw on the list some-one else is having some ftp space > > available, and I don't want to make him angry by stealing his idea. Maybe we > > can work some kind of mirroring stuff out... You won't make me angry. It just makes that much more space available and also provides another ftp location if mine goes down for some reason. Steve

Hi, can anyone tell me how a damper pedal works? If it is as simple as a switch, then I can make one. Or if it is a potentiometer or variable resistor I can also make. Can someone measure their damper pedal with a meter and let me know how it works, normally on or normally off, or if a resistor, what its value is, and what pins are used on the plug Thanks Peter

You should have no problem making your own damper pedal(s). They are simply composed of a type of switch called a "contact." However, there are two types of contacts, Normally Open (N.O.) and Normally Closed (N.C.). The majority of todays keyboards can use either. Depending on which kind of contact you use, you may have to adjust in your GLOBAL menu the DAMPER POLARITY from + to - or vice versa. You will only have to do this if your Damper pedal sustains the notes only when you DO NOT touch the pedal (Likewise, stepping on the pedal will have no sustain). No problem! As for the wiring, use a mono 1/4 inch jack which has two connectors and simply connect (solder) them to the contact (may have two or three terminals). If the contact has three terminals, then there is a high chance that it can act as either a N.O. or N.C. contact. So just choose one. To verify your work, use an ohm meter to make sure that one position has 0 ohms resistance (CLOSED) and that the second position has infinite resistance (OPEN). To summarize, damper pedals use a switch and no resistors. Future work: you can also make an expression pedal BUT using a variable resistor. Hope this helps, Brian Vasquez

At 17:01 1998-01-05 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: >> >> That's fine, but it would be nice if a description text also would be >> >> included in the zip and in the index. Or perhaps a separate index file (in >> >> the main directory) which only contains descriptions of the files (such as >> >> who created the song/pattern/PCG and the title of the production). > > > > good idea, but who can do this, i don't know how to do it... > > if somebody want to this work please e-mail me so we could make this file This has already been taken care of by Steve Day. Visit ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001 (add this address to your Internet browser bookmarks for later use - and this goes for all of you N-list members) and have a look. The file is probably named "songs1.zip".

At 01:36 1998-01-06 +0100, Hero Idema wrote: > > First I made a simple sng header text file which you can include > > in a package with songs/pcgs/rpprs Great idea! Would be very nice if everybody could use that template when releasing SNG/PCG/PST! > > Maybe we can work some kind of mirroring stuff out... > > On this ftp server I can also publish the listserv archive every week or > > something. Another great idea! :)

im looking for the instrument definition for the N364 so i can use it with cakewalk 4...can anyone help me???

Hello People, Kenneth and I are getting lots of error messages from the server. These error messages mostly come from messages which cannot be delivered. Our mail server tries to sent the message about 4 more times, if it couldn't sent it by then, the listserver will unsubscribe you from the list automatically. Just a reminder that this is happening... Hero Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services *@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl +31-(0)79-* *@*.net "rm -rf /" is the key to problem solving on unix machines

Hi! As Hero said, you will get auto-deleted from the N-list after 4 undeliverable messages sent to your mail-server. Don't worry though! If you get auto-deleted I'll add you back again!

Hi all, As long as we're on the subject of pedals... Does anyone know how an N364 Expression pedal works? I presume it's a potentiometer but I don't know how it should be hooked up or what value resistance it should be. As you may know Korg expression/volume pedals are very expensive and no local store around hear carries them in order for me to try one. I tried to use several other expression pedals from other manufacturers but none of them seem to work. Korg tech. support tells me that N-series pedals are different but they couldn't tell me in what way. (I honestly haven't had much luck dealing with Korg tech. support) John (John.*@*.com)

Cyberjobb wrote: > > im looking for the instrument definition for the N364 so i can use it with > > cakewalk 4...can anyone help me??? Open the attachment in this mail. Hope this helps !! *@*.net.id Deleted: Korgn364.ins An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were: Content-Type: application/x-internet-signup; name="Korgn364.ins" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Korgn364.ins" Attachments: Deleted: Korgn364.ins 254 bytes

Kenneth, I cannot get the inspector window in Cubase to do a bank change to the GM bank. Bank 4 does not work, nor does any other number. And what exactly do you need to do to access the GM program numbers higher than 127 when using Cubase? And while we're at it, why does the N364 have GM programs higher than 127? I thought the GM standard was only 127 sounds. Date: Thursday, January 08, 1998 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Anyone using Cubase for Mac with the N364? > >I went through my old personal N-list archive from when this list wasn't > >running on a list server, and found this mail: > > > >At 15:54 1997-07-21 -0500, Gary Gulley wrote: >> >> If anyone is familiar with Cubase (I am using Score VST 3.0), please > >drop >> >> me a line. I cannot figure out how to send program/bank select > >commands >> >> properly. How do you set it up? I am using OMS and of course > >there is no >> >> N364 factory file yet! > > > >I recently started using Cubase 3.5 VST. At the bottom left of the > >arrangement window you should see a small button. Click it, and the window > >contents will be expanded. You should now be able to enter bank and program > >numbers into the BANK and PRG fields. > > > >Bank numbers are: > > > >A: 0 > >B: 1 > >C: 2 > >D: 3 > >GM: 4 > > > >Program numbers: > > > >A-D: 1-100 > >GM: 1-127 (up to 136 when it comes to drumkits) > > > >You'll probably have to select sequencer mode (or any other mode) either by > >pressing buttons on the N, or by sending MIDI SysEx (system exclusive) > >messages as I do. Don't know whether it's possible to set synthesizer mode > >with Cubase in some standardised way, but I guess not. > > > >If you for example want to select program B21, enter this: > > > >BANK: 1 > >PRG: 22 > > > >(always add 1 to PRG, atleast when in bank A-D) > > > >Cheers!

In cubase, you can enter the bank and the program number in the inspector>. Search the sound in the tables at the end of the NS5R manual, and then, in "bank", enter MSB*128+LSB, in "prg", enter PC. This works for my NS5R and cubase 3.52/VST on a PC. I still can't figure out how to access the drum kits though, because there is no MSB/LSB listed for them. If you can figure this out please e-mailme. Kenneth, I cannot get the inspector window in Cubase to do a bank change to the GM bank. Bank 4 does not work, nor does any other number. And what exactly do you need to do to access the GM program numbers higher than 127 when using Cubase? And while we're at it, why does the N364 have GM programs higher than 127? I thought the GM standard was only 127 sounds. Date: Thursday, January 08, 1998 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Anyone using Cubase for Mac with the N364? > >I went through my old personal N-list archive from when this list wasn't > >running on a list server, and found this mail: > > > >At 15:54 1997-07-21 -0500, Gary Gulley wrote: >> >> If anyone is familiar with Cubase (I am using Score VST 3.0), please > >drop >> >> me a line. I cannot figure out how to send program/bank select > >commands >> >> properly. How do you set it up? I am using OMS and of course > >there is no >> >> N364 factory file yet! > > > >I recently started using Cubase 3.5 VST. At the bottom left of the > >arrangement window you should see a small button. Click it, and the window > >contents will be expanded. You should now be able to enter bank and program > >numbers into the BANK and PRG fields. > > > >Bank numbers are: > > > >A: 0 > >B: 1 > >C: 2 > >D: 3 > >GM: 4 > > > >Program numbers: > > > >A-D: 1-100 > >GM: 1-127 (up to 136 when it comes to drumkits) > > > >You'll probably have to select sequencer mode (or any other mode) either by > >pressing buttons on the N, or by sending MIDI SysEx (system exclusive) > >messages as I do. Don't know whether it's possible to set synthesizer mode > >with Cubase in some standardised way, but I guess not. > > > >If you for example want to select program B21, enter this: > > > >BANK: 1 > >PRG: 22 > > > >(always add 1 to PRG, atleast when in bank A-D) > > > >Cheers!

At 16:45 9-1-98 -0700, you wrote: > >In cubase, you can enter the bank and the program number in the inspector>. > >Search the sound in the tables at the end of the NS5R manual, and then, in > >"bank", enter MSB*128+LSB, in "prg", enter PC. This works for my NS5R and > >cubase 3.52/VST on a PC. I still can't figure out how to access the drum > >kits though, because there is no MSB/LSB listed for them. If you can figure > >this out please e-mailme. > > > >Kenneth, > > > >I cannot get the inspector window in Cubase to do a bank change to the GM > >bank. Bank 4 does not work, nor does any other number. And what exactly do > >you need to do to access the GM program numbers higher than 127 when using > >Cubase? And while we're at it, why does the N364 have GM programs higher > >than 127? I thought the GM standard was only 127 sounds. Hmmm... check page 4 in your reference guide... The following bank changes are stated there... MSB 00, LSB 00 = bank A - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program 00-99 MSB 00, LSB 01 = bank B - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program 00-99 MSB 00, LSB 02 = bank C - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program 00-99 MSB 00, LSB 03 = bank D - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program 00-99 Now this is the tricky section MSB 56, LSB 00 = GM bank - A program Change nr 00-127 will select GM program 01-128 MSB 3Eh (=62), LSB 00 = GM the higher numbers: A program Change nr 00-15 or 56-63 or 72-127 will select GM program 129 A program Change nr 16-23 will select GM program 130 A program Change nr 25 will select GM program 131 A program Change nr 32-39 will select GM program 132 A program Change nr 40-47 will select GM program 133 A program Change nr 64-71 will select GM program 134 A program Change nr 24 or 26-31 will select GM program 135 A program Change nr 48-55 will select GM program 136 Hope you understand this a little... my english isn't that good.. :) Hero

When I first joined the Korg List, I asked if anyone had an instrument definition for the N364 that I could use with MOTU's Freestyle Sequencer program. Since then, I have built the definition by using one for Cakewalk (This only helped from the standpoint of not having to type in all of the patch names). It works well except that my inital string is not placing the N364 into the sequencer mode. (I have been doing that manually) What MIDI SysEx (system exclusive) message to I send for this? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Rich

Thanks for the info. I will give that a try. Anyone out there setup a Cubase MixerMap for the N364? GG -----Original Message----- From: Hero Idema <*@*.NET> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> Date: Saturday, January 10, 1998 5:26 AM Subject: Re: Anyone using Cubase for Mac with the N364? > >At 16:45 9-1-98 -0700, you wrote: >> >>In cubase, you can enter the bank and the program number in the inspector>. >> >>Search the sound in the tables at the end of the NS5R manual, and then, in >> >>"bank", enter MSB*128+LSB, in "prg", enter PC. This works for my NS5R and >> >>cubase 3.52/VST on a PC. I still can't figure out how to access the drum >> >>kits though, because there is no MSB/LSB listed for them. If you can figure >> >>this out please e-mailme. >> >> >> >>Kenneth, >> >> >> >>I cannot get the inspector window in Cubase to do a bank change to the GM >> >>bank. Bank 4 does not work, nor does any other number. And what exactly do >> >>you need to do to access the GM program numbers higher than 127 when using >> >>Cubase? And while we're at it, why does the N364 have GM programs higher >> >>than 127? I thought the GM standard was only 127 sounds. > > > >Hmmm... check page 4 in your reference guide... > >The following bank changes are stated there... > > > >MSB 00, LSB 00 = bank A - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program 00-99 > >MSB 00, LSB 01 = bank B - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program 00-99 > >MSB 00, LSB 02 = bank C - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program 00-99 > >MSB 00, LSB 03 = bank D - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program 00-99 > > > >Now this is the tricky section > > > >MSB 56, LSB 00 = GM bank - A program Change nr 00-127 will select GM program 01-128 > >MSB 3Eh (=62), LSB 00 = GM the higher numbers: > > A program Change nr 00-15 or 56-63 or 72-127 will select GM program 129 > > A program Change nr 16-23 will select GM program 130 > > A program Change nr 25 will select GM program 131 > > A program Change nr 32-39 will select GM program 132 > > A program Change nr 40-47 will select GM program 133 > > A program Change nr 64-71 will select GM program 134 > > A program Change nr 24 or 26-31 will select GM program 135 > > A program Change nr 48-55 will select GM program 136 > > > > > >Hope you understand this a little... my english isn't that good.. :) > > > >Hero > > > >_____________________ > >Hero Idema > >*@*.net > >http://www.imagica.net > >telnet://imagica.net:4000 > >_____________________ > >

I've uploaded Cakewalk instrument definitions for N264 & N364 to Steve Day's ftp space. In a short while you'll be able to download it from: ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ most likely under the filename "cakewalk.zip".

Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > I've uploaded Cakewalk instrument definitions for N264 & N364 to Steve > > Day's ftp space. In a short while you'll be able to download it from: > > > > ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ > > > > most likely under the filename "cakewalk.zip". thanks for taking the time dow you know how to change the sound i'm playing while playing smf?or even turn up the vol.?

Does anyone know if it is possible to obtain a digital out from the NS5R by retrofit, or retrofit/shield the power supply a bit more to make it quieter? When I turn it up there is a slightly noticeable noise floor, much more than my Wavestation EX. The box is really useful, but it would be awesome with a digital out.

On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > I've uploaded Cakewalk instrument definitions for N264 & N364 to Steve > > Day's ftp space. In a short while you'll be able to download it from: > > > > ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ > > > > most likely under the filename "cakewalk.zip". So as not to be confused with the program, I called it korg-ins.zip. There is a corresponding text file, korg-ins.txt, that tells what's in it. I wouldn't want anyone to think I was giving away a mini version of Cakewalk. :) It's available to anyone that wants it. Steve

At 15:02 1998-01-13 -0800, Steve Day wrote: >> I've uploaded Cakewalk instrument definitions for N264 & N364 to Steve >> Day's ftp space. In a short while you'll be able to download it from: >> >> ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ >> >> most likely under the filename "cakewalk.zip". > > So as not to be confused with the program, I called it korg-ins.zip. >There is a corresponding text file, korg-ins.txt, that tells what's in it. >I wouldn't want anyone to think I was giving away a mini version of >Cakewalk. :) Hehe, shite. I knew you'd change that filename. :) But I do ofcourse not mind...

At 01:44 1998-01-15 -0800, mark gurevitch wrote: >I want to play some tracks live and some recorded but when I try to play >an smf I can only play what the N gives me sometines drums sometime piano >but at very low vol. If your N plays the wrong instruments when playing SMFs, go to global mode page 3C and change from PROG:ENA to PROG:NUM. This should force wrong-playing general midi songs to use the right instruments. But, when setting PROG to NUM, you will probably not be able to select N-specific programs/combis from an external sequencer. You'll need to set PROG back to ENA then. You can increase the volume for each of the 16 sequencer tracks, but that will only work well if you have loaded the SMF into the N's onboard sequencer. If you use an external sequencer (e.g. your computer), try increasing the volume in that one instead. Hmm... but I still don't think I've fully understood your problem. Please give an example... Cheers!

At 22:54 1998-01-13 +0100, Gary Gulley wrote: >What is the SysEx message to put the N in Seq mode? I have searched thru >the Midi Implementation charts and could not find anything The charts aren't very clear on this, and I haven't been able to sort it out either. But I solved it quite easily: 1. Set Cubase to be able to record SysEx 2. Start recording 3. Press the SEQ button on your N (provided you first were in any other mode, since else no SysEx message will be transmitted), and stop recording. 4. Play back what you've recorded, and the N should go into seq-mode (if you're in any other mode before playing). 5. Use list-edit to view/move/edit the SysEx message you recorded. I've put mine in a separate initialisation track at the beginning of each song. There is however a more elegant way to initialise the N. This is by sending a "General MIDI reset" SysEx message, which will put the N in seq mode, song 9: F0,7E,7F,09,01,F7 Cheerio!

On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > > > There is however a more elegant way to initialise the N. This is by sending > > a "General MIDI reset" SysEx message, which will put the N in seq mode, > > song 9: > > > > F0,7E,7F,09,01,F7 ^^ The only problem with this method is that if you've changed the channel that control messages are received on, it won't work. You must insure that the channel in the sysex message is correct for your settings. Steve

Ahaaa! That is brilliant! Now, I assume you can use that procedure to figure out the SysEx messages for all kinds of things, huh? Gary Gulley -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> Date: Thursday, January 15, 1998 6:14 PM Subject: Seq-mode SysEx code > >At 22:54 1998-01-13 +0100, Gary Gulley wrote: >> > >What is the SysEx message to put the N in Seq mode? I have searched thru >> > >the Midi Implementation charts and could not find anything > > > >The charts aren't very clear on this, and I haven't been able to sort it > >out either. But I solved it quite easily: > > > >1. Set Cubase to be able to record SysEx > >2. Start recording > >3. Press the SEQ button on your N (provided you first were in any other > > mode, since else no SysEx message will be transmitted), and stop > > recording. > >4. Play back what you've recorded, and the N should go into seq-mode (if > > you're in any other mode before playing). > >5. Use list-edit to view/move/edit the SysEx message you recorded. I've > > put mine in a separate initialisation track at the beginning of each > > song. > > > >There is however a more elegant way to initialise the N. This is by sending > >a "General MIDI reset" SysEx message, which will put the N in seq mode, > >song 9: > > > >F0,7E,7F,09,01,F7 > > > >Cheerio!

hey i was wondering if anyone recieved the rebate offer from korg. (consisting of the 5 disks of sounds and the headphones). are the sounds any good? i havent recieved mine yet. any comments would be helpful. i mean is this something i should be excited about recieving? Kaliss

At 11:00 16-1-98 EST, you wrote: > >hey i was wondering if anyone recieved the rebate offer from korg. > >(consisting of the 5 disks of sounds and the headphones). are the > >sounds any good? i havent recieved mine yet. any comments would be > >helpful. i mean is this something i should be excited about recieving? > > > >Kaliss > > > > We (in Holland) don't get a rebate offer :-( Is it illegal to copy those disks, otherwise I would be really interested in them !!! And are there RPPR patterns on the disks ? Greetz, Fedde Bouwman

At 07:36 1998-01-10 -0800, Richard L. Collins wrote: >It works well except that my inital string is not placing >the N364 into the sequencer mode. (I have been doing that manually) > >What MIDI SysEx (system exclusive) message to I send for this? General MIDI reset is a good SysEx message to use: F0,7E,7F,09,01,F7 The N will respond by entering sequencer mode, song 9. I've left this song empty and named it "MIDI".

> >We (in Holland) don't get a rebate offer :-( > >Is it illegal to copy those disks, otherwise I would be > >really interested in them !!! > >And are there RPPR patterns on the disks ? i would assume it would be illegal to copy the disks. but is a N user from holland any different than a user in the USA? i think its discriminatory. heh. check out the korg site for more info http://www.korg.com/nspecial2.htm Kaliss

This mail provides info about GM bank selection messages, not only usable with Cubase, but for all external sequencers. At 11:08 1998-01-09 -0600, Gary Gulley wrote: >I cannot get the inspector window in Cubase to do a bank change to the GM >bank. Bank 4 does not work, nor does any other number. Bank 4 works fine for me, atleast when using Cubasis. Try 7169 (yes, I'm serious) and see if that works. >And what exactly do >you need to do to access the GM program numbers higher than 127 when using >Cubase? And while we're at it, why does the N364 have GM programs higher >than 127? I thought the GM standard was only 127 sounds. Programs above 128 are extra drum kits (129 to 136). Bank number 7937 should put you in "drumkit mode". Then you can select kits 129 to 136 by using program select numbers 0, 16, 25, 26, 33, 41, 48 and 65. Test it. These kits are a sort of standardised extension to the GM standard. Not all general midi devices support them. Read Hero's previous mail about bank selection for more info about numbers.

At 18:24 1998-01-15 -0600, Gary Gulley wrote: >Ahaaa! That is brilliant! Now, I assume you can use that procedure to >figure out the SysEx messages for all kinds of things, huh? Yep! If there is a SysEx message you want to send to the N, try to trigger it from the N first and record the SysEx it sends. Then just play it back. It won't work with all functions though. I'm not sure which work and which don't.

At 18:25 1998-01-16 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote: >We (in Holland) don't get a rebate offer :-( >Is it illegal to copy those disks, otherwise I would be >really interested in them !!! >And are there RPPR patterns on the disks ? Download them from ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ under the filename "n-disks.zip" (or something similar).

At 16:24 1998-01-15 -0800, Steve Day wrote: >> There is however a more elegant way to initialise the N. This is by sending >> a "General MIDI reset" SysEx message, which will put the N in seq mode, >> song 9: >> >> F0,7E,7F,09,01,F7 > ^^ > The only problem with this method is that if you've changed the channel >that control messages are received on, it won't work. You must insure that >the channel in the sysex message is correct for your settings. Thanks for this remark. Didn't think about that, though it's rather important.

Kaliss, Unfortunately the offer is only good in the USA. Stupid, but it's the way it is. Would it be possible for you to zip the disks you received (especially the RPPR drum disk) and mail them as attachements? Or, upload them to N-list ftp-site below? ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/uploads/ I think you will make a lot of N-people in other countries then the USA very happy! :) Thanx in advance, Ben Evers

> > Would it be possible for you to zip the disks you received (especially the > > RPPR drum disk) and mail them as attachements? Or, upload them to N-list > > ftp-site below? I also am very interested in getting a copy of the RPPR Drums Disk. I've been trying to get intouch with serf (who has a copy of it) but I think he dropped off the face of the earth. I saw a message on this list from him recently. He was trying to sell an N364. I guess this means he's out of the picture. Does anyone else have a copy of the Drums Disk? Serf, If you're out there, drop me an email. John (John.*@*.com)

no problem. i'll ftp em as soon as i get em. (i'm still awaiting the delivery). Kaliss. > >Would it be possible for you to zip the disks you received (especially the > >RPPR drum disk) and mail them as attachements? Or, upload them to N-list > >ftp-site below? > > > >ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/uploads/

Is anyone here familair with using the n364 with cakewalk? If so, just wondering if you can briefly explain to me how i can use combinations within cakewalk and also how i would go about using the n364's effects. Sequencing with dry sounds is good if one has external fx processers but im stuck with only the n364.. any help with this would be appreciated regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

At 21:11 16-1-98 +0100, you wrote: > >At 18:25 1998-01-16 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote: > > >> > >We (in Holland) don't get a rebate offer :-( >> > >Is it illegal to copy those disks, otherwise I would be >> > >really interested in them !!! >> > >And are there RPPR patterns on the disks ? > > > >Download them from ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ under the filename > >"n-disks.zip" (or something similar). Thank you ! I particularly like the file X3organs.PCG !!!!! (I've always been a Hammond organ fan, and I love to play Jazz dance grooves and other songs on them...) Greetz, Fedde Bouwman

In a message dated 98-01-21 01:22:07 EST, you write: << Is anyone here familair with using the n364 with cakewalk? If so, just wondering if you can briefly explain to me how i can use combinations within cakewalk and also how i would go about using the n364's effects. Sequencing with dry sounds is good if one has external fx processers but im stuck with only the n364.. any help with this would be appreciated >> well steve-you cant use the combination sounds-sux doesnt it- as far as fx-set them on the N364 on whatever song you have it on while youre using cakewalk---the fx you choose will effect every track ...-to get around that you need a mixer-... -ted-

From: Steve Wallis <*@*.NET> > >Is anyone here familair with using the n364 with cakewalk? If so, just wondering > >if you can briefly explain to me how i can use combinations within cakewalk > >and also how i would go about using the n364's effects. Sequencing with > >dry sounds is good if one has external fx processers but im stuck with only > >the n364.. any help with this would be appreciated > > > >regards, > > > >Steve Wallis > >*@*.net In Cakewalk (mine is Ver5.0) switch to Evenlist view of the track you want to apply the effect. Click the menu: Insert, Series of Controllers & choose controller #91 to apply reverb and controller #93 to apply chorus to your track. Don't forget to specify a value (max 127). That's what I usually do. You can use other controllers too ! August F H Hardiman *@*.net

hi I recently changed my email address. So please change the my address. My address used to be *@*.net change it to *@*.com Thanx

At 13:34 1998-01-21 EST, Cyberjobb wrote: >well steve-you cant use the combination sounds-sux doesnt it- You can, but it's a bit complicated and cumbersome. >as far as fx-set them on the N364 on whatever song you have it on while youre >using cakewalk---the fx you choose will effect every track >...-to get around that you need a mixer-... Hmm.. how to get around it by using a mixer? I have recently purchased a nice little mixer myself, so it would be interesting to know what you mean!

by assigning channels...ive never done it so im not realy sure

At 16:16 1998-01-20 EST, KaLiSS ? wrote: >no problem. i'll ftp em as soon as i get em. (i'm still awaiting the >delivery). You don't need to wait. As told before, the file "n-disks.zip" at ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ contains all the disks except the "Raw Drums" disk. Thought nobody on this list seems to have that disk!?!?

At 00:22 1998-01-23 EST, Cyberjobb wrote: >by assigning channels...ive never done it so im not realy sure There are maximally 4 outputs from the N, so I wonder how it would be possible to add separate effects on each of the 16 channels? Or perhaps that's not what you meant? Separate effects can be added by first sampling each channel separately (with Cubase, any other sequencer or a sampler program) and then applying effects with some effect program, but that can't be done in realtime. If KORG would enhance the N, these features would be nice: * Two effects processors on each of the 16 sequencer channels * 64 MB NV-RAM for samples Though that would be rather expensive ofcourse...

At 02:03 26-1-98 +0100, you wrote: > >At 00:22 1998-01-23 EST, Cyberjobb wrote: > > >> > >by assigning channels...ive never done it so im not realy sure > > > >There are maximally 4 outputs from the N, so I wonder how it would be > >possible to add separate effects on each of the 16 channels? Or perhaps > >that's not what you meant? > > > >Separate effects can be added by first sampling each channel separately > >(with Cubase, any other sequencer or a sampler program) and then applying > >effects with some effect program, but that can't be done in realtime. > > > >If KORG would enhance the N, these features would be nice: > > > >* Two effects processors on each of the 16 sequencer channels > >* 64 MB NV-RAM for samples > > > >Though that would be rather expensive ofcourse... Buy a Trinity with wave expansion board..... Rather expensive indeed !

At 11:30 1998-01-26 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote: >>If KORG would enhance the N, these features would be nice: >> >>* Two effects processors on each of the 16 sequencer channels >>* 64 MB NV-RAM for samples > >Buy a Trinity with wave expansion board..... > >Rather expensive indeed ! I was given a very good offer on a Trinity Plus (about 30% off), but it would still have been almost twice the price I paid for my N364. And the whole Trinity series has got one awful drawback that's reason enough for not buying one of them: only 32 voice polyphony! 32 just ain't enough. 64 is a whole lot better! Oh, and something that doesn't belong to this list: Don't believe Creative Labs when they boast about their Soundblaster AWE64 sound card. It has NOT got a 64 voice polyphony synth chip, it has infact only got 30! The 32 extra CPU-calculated software voices sound like SHIT. Believe me, I've got an AWE64 Gold, so I know. Besides, it hasn't even got a hardware MIDI interface. No Soundblaster card has. Crappo-zappo! ;)

Hi, I own the N364, I was thinking of getting myself another synthesizer in addition to the N364. I have seen the new Korg Z1 in a demonstration. It seemed to be awesome. A nice sound, many real-time effectcontrolers and switches to change cutoff-frequencies ans stuff. Really neat. Has anyone else seen or heard the Z1 ( this is ZEE ONE )? Do you think it would be a good thing to use it in connection zith my N364 or should I first get a computerprogram like cakewalk? I would appreciate some advise. Thanx Tooners

> > Oh, and something that doesn't belong to this list: Don't believe Creative > > Labs when they boast about their Soundblaster AWE64 sound card. It has NOT > > got a 64 voice polyphony synth chip, it has infact only got 30! The 32 > > extra CPU-calculated software voices sound like SHIT. Believe me, I've got > > an AWE64 Gold, so I know. Besides, it hasn't even got a hardware MIDI > > interface. No Soundblaster card has. Crappo-zappo! ;) No SoundBlaster has a hardware MIDI interface?!? I have a SoundBlaster SB-16 and it has a game port which doubles as a MIDI interface (with an adapter). It seems to work just fine. I suppose it could be just a software emulation of a "hardware MIDI interface" (I'm not sure). But my question is why would I care? Is a hardware MIDI interface faster? More functionally compatible? Who makes a board with a hardware MIDI interface? John (John.*@*.com)

At 07:22 1998-01-28 EST, John Schulz wrote: >No SoundBlaster has a hardware MIDI interface?!? I have a SoundBlaster >SB-16 and it has a game port which doubles as a MIDI interface (with an >adapter). It seems to work just fine. I suppose it could be just a software >emulation of a "hardware MIDI interface" (I'm not sure). But my question is >why would I care? Is a hardware MIDI interface faster? More functionally >compatible? Who makes a board with a hardware MIDI interface? All soundblasters have connectors and wiring for MIDI, but none of them have a hardware MPU-401. Software emulation. Gerenally this doesn't matter at all, but it could cause timing/synchronisation problems. I'm having no trouble with my SB AWE64 Gold myself, so I'm not complaining. Just a statement. Most "high-end" sound cards have a hardware MPU-401. Else a separate ISA/PCI MIDI-card can be used. What I forgot to mention, which actually sucks a lot, is that all the mixing in Soundblaster cards is done by software. Now this causes a lot of shit, of which the biggest is the synch problems. It's also not possible to use more than one sample-channel at a time, since the mixer device doesn't support multiple inputs. Now, not only Soundblaster card have this severe limitation. Most cheap cards have. I really shoudln't write this, since it'll probably make some people react, and this list isn't about Soundblaster. Sorry for even bringing it up in the first place.

kenneth... please un subscribe me from the n-list as I won't have access to my e-mail starting next week.... thanks..

At 01:10 1998-01-29 PST, j. austin wrote: >kenneth... please un subscribe me from the n-list as I won't have access >to my e-mail starting next week.... thanks.. I'll remove you right away. Do you wish to be added under an other address?

> > switches to change cutoff-frequencies ans stuff. Really neat. Has anyone > > else seen or heard the Z1 ( this is ZEE ONE )? Do you think it would be a > > good thing to use it > > in connection zith my N364 or should I first get a computerprogram like Yeah, I think it would be a great combination. jg.

kenneth... please un subscribe me from the n-list as I won't have access to my e-mail starting next week.... thanks.. Prasad

Thanks everyone for your replies with the n364 and cakewalk. I decided it was more trouble than what its worth and simply went back to using the n364's built in sequencer :) -its almost as good as cakewalk anyways in my opinion. BTW, has anyone seen or heard of some of the new gear Korg plans on showcasing at namm? I cant wait to see what that the new N5 is like. regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

In a message dated 98-01-30 10:10:29 EST, you write: << Thanks everyone for your replies with the n364 and cakewalk. I decided it was more trouble than what its worth and simply went back to using the n364's built in sequencer :) -its almost as good as cakewalk anyways in my opinion. >> >> i believe and i think youll find that using the on-board can be a real bitch! there are some kinks to work out with the N and cakewalk, but in the end i believe its well worth it...a time saver to say the least!!!

At 05:04 1998-01-30 PST, Prasad Dalvie wrote: >kenneth... please un subscribe me from the n-list as I won't have access >to my e-mail starting next week.... thanks.. To everybody: please don't send requests through the list address! Use *@*.syntegra.net for that.

Hi ppl I just got the Cakewalk 6.0ProAudio. b4 buying it I also tried out the Cubase AudioXT 3.0 but I liked the Cakewalk I guess (Plus it was cheaper :) Cubase seemed a little confusing to me. Anyway as required in the cakewalk, I got the Instument Defination for the N364, no sweat, I did get all the Program ABCD and GM. But in the GM it doesn't hv patches 129-136. How come? How do I get them. Plus how do u control/select Combis from the Cakewalk? Is it in anyway possible to use Combis an a Sequenced piece? I'vent been able to do the with either N sequencer, and forget cakewalk, I dont even know how to do that. I know I can somehow copy a combi on to the N sequencer, but the problem is, the effects from the combi effect all 16 channel even if the combi has only 2 timbre..upto 8. My question is how do I copy the combi on to the seq w/out effecting the other 8 channels.... ANY ADVICE? Another q.. When I use Cakewalk, do I have to have N in any specific mode? Somebody told me, I should always stay in SEQ mode S9. Thanx

On Sun, 1 Feb 1998, Sammy Q wrote: > > Hi ppl > > > > > > Anyway as required in the cakewalk, I got the Instument Defination for > > the N364, no sweat, I did get all the Program ABCD and GM. But in the > > GM it doesn't hv patches 129-136. How come? How do I get them. GM doesn't have any instrument patches above 128 (127 if you number from 0), the numbers you are talking about refer to drum kits. If you assign a drum bank to a channel and then scroll through the "instruments" you will see the drum kits. The actual number doesn't match the numbering sequence in the manual. There's quite a bit of number space between each kit. > > > Plus how do u control/select Combis from the Cakewalk? Is it in anyway > > possible to use Combis an a Sequenced piece? I'vent been able to do > > the with either N sequencer, and forget cakewalk, I dont even know how > > to do that. The combo's should be selected if you select any one of the combo banks (A, B, C or D) in Cakewalk. > > I know I can somehow copy a combi on to the N sequencer, but the problem > > is, the effects from the combi effect all 16 channel even if the combi > > has only 2 timbre..upto 8. My question is how do I copy the combi > > on to the seq w/out effecting the other 8 channels.... > > ANY ADVICE? Haven't played with that part. Someone else wil have to answer it. > > > > Another q.. When I use Cakewalk, do I have to have N in any specific > > mode? Somebody told me, I should always stay in SEQ mode S9. If you switch to SEQ mode and select the correct bank in Cakewalk, the S9 doesn't matter. The patches will play correctly. The only time you need to use the S9 selection is when you're playing a GM MIDI that doesn't have any bank select data in it. You MUST be in SEQ mode to play any GM song. For some reason the thing won't change from Combo mode to SEQ mode if you just send it the GM bank select from Cakewalk. Steve

its and the gm patches. Deleted: N364.INS An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were: Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="N364.INS"; x-mac-type="42494E41"; x-mac-creator="6D646F73" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="N364.INS" Attachments: Deleted: N364.INS 296 bytes

Just thought id mention that the controller data in the updated .ins might be a tad off as i pieced this together from both an X3 and N364 .ins file. If anyone out there can configure the controllers in the file please do and resend to this list.

At 10:04 1998-01-30 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: >BTW, has anyone seen or heard of some of the new gear Korg plans on showcasing >at namm? I cant wait to see what that the new N5 is like. N5? Haven't heard about it. Is it an improvement of the N3, and if so, what are the changes? If it has lots of NV-RAM and more effect processors I'll switch as soon as they're released. :)

At 01:48 1998-02-01 PST, Sammy Q wrote: >I know I can somehow copy a combi on to the N sequencer, but the problem >is, the effects from the combi effect all 16 channel even if the combi >has only 2 timbre..upto 8. My question is how do I copy the combi >on to the seq w/out effecting the other 8 channels.... >ANY ADVICE? There are only two effect processors in the N, so you always have to choose the effects carefully. If there were two effect processors for each of the 16 channels there wouldn't be any problems at all. But that's not the case with the N, so we all have to suffer. :) If you copy a combi to the seq by using page 8E in seq-edit mode, the effect settings won't be copied with it, so I guess that solves your problem? >Another q.. When I use Cakewalk, do I have to have N in any specific >mode? Somebody told me, I should always stay in SEQ mode S9. You must be in seq mode, but not necessarily song 9. Though a good way to put the N in seq mode when using an external sequencer, without pressing the seq button, is to send a GM reset code (which I've mentioned in an earlier mail). This will put the N in seq mode and song 9.

At 02:17 1998-02-01 -0800, Steve Day wrote: >> Another q.. When I use Cakewalk, do I have to have N in any specific >> mode? Somebody told me, I should always stay in SEQ mode S9. > > If you switch to SEQ mode and select the correct bank in Cakewalk, the >S9 doesn't matter. The patches will play correctly. The only time you need >to use the S9 selection is when you're playing a GM MIDI that doesn't have >any bank select data in it. >You MUST be in SEQ mode to play any GM song. And for any kind of multitimbral (multi-instrumental) music playing from an external sequencer. >For some reason the thing won't change from Combo mode to SEQ mode if you >just send it the GM bank select from Cakewalk. That would infact be a pretty smart idea. Too bad KORG didn't think of that. Does anybody know if it's possible to update the OS ROMs of the N (either by software flashing or hardware chip-switching)? If it is, we can start pusing KORG to release a new ROM with that feature (and a few cosmetic bug-fixes).

At 23:04 01/02/98 +0100, you wrote: > >At 10:04 1998-01-30 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: > > >> > >BTW, has anyone seen or heard of some of the new gear Korg plans on > >showcasing >> > >at namm? I cant wait to see what that the new N5 is like. > > > >N5? Haven't heard about it. Is it an improvement of the N3, and if so, what > >are the changes? If it has lots of NV-RAM and more effect processors I'll > >switch as soon as they're released. :) The N5 is basically the nsr5. It has resonance, a bunch of knobs and i believe finally some filters. The board itself looks pretty cool, sort of a cross between a cs1x and the traditional N364/x3. I saw a pic of it on korg japans web site and it looks awesome. sonic state also has a small review of it on their site(no pic tho). www.sonicstate.com to check it out. regards, Steve Wallis

> > > >Just thought id mention that the controller data in the updated .ins might > >be a tad off as i pieced this together from both an X3 and N364 .ins file. > >If anyone out there can configure the controllers in the file please do and > >resend to this list. > > Is this an INS file? when I downloaded it, it came as an EXE file. and I tried it, it came out with an error msg saying not a valid windows application... Is it a MAC file...

>> > >I know I can somehow copy a combi on to the N sequencer, but the problem >> > >is, the effects from the combi effect all 16 channel even if the combi >> > >has only 2 timbre..upto 8. My question is how do I copy the combi >> > >on to the seq w/out effecting the other 8 channels.... >> > >ANY ADVICE? > > > >There are only two effect processors in the N, so you always have to choose > >the effects carefully. HOW R U SUPPOSED TO DO THIS EXACTLY? > > > >If you copy a combi to the seq by using page 8E in seq-edit mode, the > >effect settings won't be copied with it, so I guess that solves your problem? I DID THIS. FOR EX, I COPIED B29 COMBI TO S7. IT HAS 7 TIMBRES AND IT TAKES ALL TRACKS 1-8. WHEN I CHOOSE TRACK 9 AND LETS SAY HAVE G01, IT CARRIES OUT THE EFFECTS FM B29 COMBI. HOW DO I STOP THAT? >> > >Another q.. When I use Cakewalk, do I have to have N in any specific >> > >mode? Somebody told me, I should always stay in SEQ mode S9. > > > >You must be in seq mode, but not necessarily song 9. Though a good way to > >put the N in seq mode when using an external sequencer, without pressing > >the seq button, is to send a GM reset code (which I've mentioned in an > >earlier mail). This will put the N in seq mode and song 9. I THINK I MISSED THIS MAIL SOME HOW :( KENNETH WILL U HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS gm RESET CODE.. THANX hASNAT

> >At 02:17 1998-02-01 -0800, Steve Day wrote: > > >>> > >> Another q.. When I use Cakewalk, do I have to have N in any specific >>> > >> mode? Somebody told me, I should always stay in SEQ mode S9. >> > > If you switch to SEQ mode and select the correct bank in Cakewalk, the >> > >S9 doesn't matter. The patches will play correctly. The only time you need >> > >to use the S9 selection is when you're playing a GM MIDI that doesn't have >> > >any bank select data in it. > > >> > >You MUST be in SEQ mode to play any GM song. > >And for any kind of multitimbral (multi-instrumental) music playing from an > >external sequencer. HOW DO U CHOOSE THIS MULTITIMBRAL INSTRUMENT FM CAKEWALK?

> >Is this an INS file? when I downloaded it, it came as an EXE file. and > >I tried it, it came out with an error msg saying not a valid windows > >application... Is it a MAC file... Hmm.. thats very strange. Must be a problem in my file attachment protocals or something as the file itself is an actual .ins file. If someone will give me the address to Steve Days ftp site i'll upload it. regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

At 02:09 1998-02-03 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: >>Is this an INS file? when I downloaded it, it came as an EXE file. and >>I tried it, it came out with an error msg saying not a valid windows >>application... Is it a MAC file... > >Hmm.. thats very strange. Must be a problem in my file attachment protocals >or something as the file itself is an actual .ins file. If someone will give >me the address to Steve Days ftp site i'll upload it. As said one zillion times before: ;) ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ ALL of you, BOOKMARK THIS *NOW*: ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ That is the address to the ftp site. Files will drop in there once in a while.

On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > At 02:09 1998-02-03 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: > > >>Is this an INS file? when I downloaded it, it came as an EXE file. and > > >>I tried it, it came out with an error msg saying not a valid windows > > >>application... Is it a MAC file... > > > > > >Hmm.. thats very strange. Must be a problem in my file attachment protocals > > >or something as the file itself is an actual .ins file. If someone will give > > >me the address to Steve Days ftp site i'll upload it. > > > > As said one zillion times before: ;) > > > > ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ > > > > ALL of you, BOOKMARK THIS *NOW*: > > > > ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ That's for download only. The upload directory is users/sad001/uploads and is write only. Steve

At 00:55 1998-02-02 PST, Hasnat M wrote: >>>You MUST be in SEQ mode to play any GM song. >> >>And for any kind of multitimbral (multi-instrumental) music playing >>from an external sequencer. > >HOW DO U CHOOSE THIS MULTITIMBRAL INSTRUMENT FM CAKEWALK? You mean how you select seq mode on the N from Cakewalk? Well, I don't have Cakewalk, but I guess you should be able to create a GM reset SysEx code in most sequencers. If you can't create it, then "steal" it from a .MID file that does a GM reset. I did.

For those of you who use external sequencers with your N: I've created an very small (61 bytes) standard midi file, that only contains the SysEx GM reset code. You can test it by simply switching your N on and then play the file "gm-reset.mid" from your external sequencer or computer, and the N should enter seq mode & song 9. It won't matter which midi channel you have set as global on your N (page 3A in global mode). Atleast it doesn't for me. If you want to use this code in your music, try to import "gm-reset.mid" to your sequencer in some way. Then you must move your music tracks atleast a few fractions of a second 'down' in time, so the N has time to respond to the GM rest code. For 'advanced' users: If you want to add the code to a sequencer track manually, then this is the complete SysEx message in hexadecimals: F0, 7E, 7F, 09, 01, F7 Take a look at page 216 in the Reference Guide if you wish to know what each of these numbers do. Deleted: gm-reset.mid An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were: Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="gm-reset.mid" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="gm-reset.mid" Attachments: Deleted: gm-reset.mid 253 bytes

At 00:51 1998-02-02 PST, Hasnat M wrote: >>There are only two effect processors in the N, so you always have to >>choose the effects carefully. > >HOW R U SUPPOSED TO DO THIS EXACTLY? That depends on what instruments (programs) you use. If you want to use a guitar with distortion fx and stereo delay fx, you can be quite sure that the rest of the instruments will be troublesome to use. You can avoid feeding the effect processors by setting either or both of the send C/D levels to 0, but it doesn't always work. Beware that the fx placement (page 7E in seq mode) should be set to parallell 3, since else you might not be able to 'split' the fx processors from eachother to 100%. Blah, I'm not too good at explaining.... If you only use instruments which don't require any special fx else than some reverb and chorus, then there's no problem. I'm the kind of person who uses more or less extreme and totally different fx settings on several instruments in a song, so I would definately like to have more fx processors. As it is now, I have to record each standing-out instrument separately, as digital audio samples. Not very interactive. >>If you copy a combi to the seq by using page 8E in seq-edit mode, the >>effect settings won't be copied with it, so I guess that solves your >>problem? > >I DID THIS. FOR EX, I COPIED B29 COMBI TO S7. IT HAS 7 TIMBRES AND >IT TAKES ALL TRACKS 1-8. WHEN I CHOOSE TRACK 9 AND LETS SAY HAVE G01, >IT CARRIES OUT THE EFFECTS FM B29 COMBI. HOW DO I STOP THAT? I just tried this, and you're right. The effect settings are copied from combi B29 to the song. However, the Reference Guide clearly states that this shouldn't happen, so my only conclusion is that there's a bug in KORG's operative system for the N!? Give your N a good whack, and maybe this problem will go away? Hehe. Nah, I wouldn't recommend that. :) >KENNETH WILL U HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS gm RESET CODE.. To make it as easy as possible for everybody to use this GM reset code, I'll write a mail and attach a small playable standard midi file (.mid) that can be used by everybody. Oh, by the way, please don't write in CAPITALS, thank you.

On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > At 02:09 1998-02-03 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: > > >>Is this an INS file? when I downloaded it, it came as an EXE file. and > > >>I tried it, it came out with an error msg saying not a valid windows > > >>application... Is it a MAC file... The attachment I decoded was an ins file. I don't know what you people are doing. :) > > > > > >Hmm.. thats very strange. Must be a problem in my file attachment protocals > > >or something as the file itself is an actual .ins file. If someone will give > > >me the address to Steve Days ftp site i'll upload it. I just put a new definition file there. It contains almost everything and can be imported as an instrument definition file from Cakewalk. I tested it but I had to remove my previous Korg definitions first. It contains all the drums sets and drum names as well as all the controllers defined for the NX64 synths. ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/korgnx64.zip Steve

>> > >I DID THIS. FOR EX, I COPIED B29 COMBI TO S7. IT HAS 7 TIMBRES AND >> > >IT TAKES ALL TRACKS 1-8. WHEN I CHOOSE TRACK 9 AND LETS SAY HAVE G01, >> > >IT CARRIES OUT THE EFFECTS FM B29 COMBI. HOW DO I STOP THAT? > > > >I just tried this, and you're right. The effect settings are copied from > >combi B29 to the song. However, the Reference Guide clearly states that > >this shouldn't happen, so my only conclusion is that there's a bug in > >KORG's operative system for the N!? > > > >Give your N a good whack, and maybe this problem will go away? Hehe. Nah, I > >wouldn't recommend that. :) I wonder then, let say if u want to use a combi sound on a normal pop song using internal or external sequencer, how u go around to do that? I love some combi sounds in there but I am unable to put it in my pieces.....which pisses me off....Right now only thing I can think of for the use of Combis is when u play live which I hardly do. !?!?!?!?! Any light on this matter fm anybody? > >Oh, by the way, please don't write in CAPITALS, thank you. DIDNT do it this time :) I did this last time bcos sometimes it gets confusing with all previous mail on it. CAPS stands out....

>> >>At 10:04 1998-01-30 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: > > > >The N5 is basically the nsr5. It has resonance, a bunch of knobs and i believe > >finally some filters. The board itself looks pretty cool, sort of a cross > >between a cs1x and the traditional N364/x3. I saw a pic of it on korg japans > >web site and it looks awesome. sonic state also has a small review of it on > >their site(no pic tho). www.sonicstate.com to check it out. I went to check the review. This is what I found different from the N264/364: * 12 MB of sample ROM (RAM? Probably not...) * 4 new realtime controller knobs on the front panel: o Filter cut-off frequency o Resonance (same as 'color' on the N264/364 I guess?) o Attack o Release * Total amount of instruments: 1049 * Performances: 384 * Audio outs (excluding phones): 2 * Audio ins: 2 (!!) * Two separate continuous "wheels" for pitch bend and modulation instead of a joystick * New front panel look The new knobs could be nice, but I suspect that those 4 functions can be found in the performance edit mode of the N264/364 aswell. 12 MB sample memory is 4 MB more than the Nx64, which means more samples to use. It seems like the NS5R already has all the extra instruments and memory that the N5 now has? You NS5R users: is that correct? What puzzles me are those 2 audio INs!?!? Can the N5 be used as an effects processor for external audio, and can it perhaps sample?? Then there must be som RAM in it, but I don't think there is. All in all there seems to be no reason for N264/364 users to upgrade, unless KORG has hidden some extra special features inside the N5 (like 30 additional fx processors :). It seems like the N5 is going to be cheaper than the N364. Does anybody know why KORG USA hasn't included any information about the N5 on www.korg.com? I saw somewhere that the N5 was already finished in november 1997, and it can be bought from some music stores (check www.sol.no/procom/ - a Norweigan shop (Norweigan text)). Please feel free to add any information I haven't included here! By the way, I can't find KORG Japan's homepage... What's the address?

here's the korg japan site. the usa site outta be updated. it hasnt changed since october. except for the fact that they changed the dates on the special rebate offer for N364. http://www.korg.co.jp/ Kaliss > > > > Does anybody know why KORG USA hasn't included any information about the N5 on > > www.korg.com? I saw somewhere that the N5 was already finished in november > > 1997, and it can be bought from some music stores (check www.sol.no/procom/ - > > a Norweigan shop (Norweigan text)). > > > > Please feel free to add any information I haven't included here! > > > > > > > > By the way, I can't find KORG Japan's homepage... What's the address?

N Users, I am a newbie N264 user and have been following the dialogue. I have been attempting to apply information contained in the manuals for this instrument with mixed results. Very frustrating at times to say the least but I continue to have various successes. Several questions I would appreciate answers to if you guys can give me a hand... 1. Is any one able to get the RPPR files to function in the machine? I have been able to use the first several factory patterns but when I erase the sequencer and start with a clean slate, I can't seem to get the actual named RPPR files to function. I guess this may seem elementary but I'm just trying to understand the function and put it to some use. 2. Am I the only one to have difficulty understanding the manuals or are they weak in describing how to use functions? 3. Does the machine sometimes seem to have a mind of its own and do things which appear to be nowhere close to what is expected? My frustrations may be part of the problem but I am cureous if others are having similar problems. 4. And, last but not least, I have a thirty day trial period on this instrument which does not expire for several days and I can return it for a full refund. Is the quality of this instrument good enough to keep or should I be looking at something else? One minute I feel real good about it and seem to accomplish a few things , and the next minute I feel like it is a real loser! Maybe I'm the loser because I just haven't spent enough time with the silly thing yet. I have tried though and am of the distinct impression that there may be some problems with the hardware. Would anyone care to give me some much needed advise? It will really be appreciated! Tom

return the fucker! you can always change your mind and buy it back!

At 01:28 6-2-98 -0800, you wrote: > >N Users, > > > >I am a newbie N264 user and have been following the dialogue. I have > >been attempting to apply information contained in the manuals for this > >instrument with mixed results. Very frustrating at times to say the > >least but I continue to have various successes. > > > >Several questions I would appreciate answers to if you guys can give me > >a hand... > > > > 1. Is any one able to get the RPPR files to function in the > >machine? > > I have been able to use the first several factory patterns but > > when I erase the sequencer and start with a clean slate, I can't > > seem to get the actual named RPPR files to function. I guess > > this may seem elementary but I'm just trying to understand the > > function and put it to some use. > > > > 2. Am I the only one to have difficulty understanding the manuals > >or > > are they weak in describing how to use functions? > > > > 3. Does the machine sometimes seem to have a mind of its own and do > > things which appear to be nowhere close to what is expected? My > > frustrations may be part of the problem but I am cureous if > > others are having similar problems. > > > > 4. And, last but not least, I have a thirty day trial period on > >this > > instrument which does not expire for several days and I can > > return it for a full refund. Is the quality of this instrument > > good enough to keep or should I be looking at something else? > > One minute I feel real good about it and seem to accomplish a > >few > > things , and the next minute I feel like it is a real loser! > > Maybe I'm the loser because I just haven't spent enough time > >with > > the silly thing yet. I have tried though and am of the distinct > > impression that there may be some problems with the hardware. > > > >Would anyone care to give me some much needed advise? It will really be > >appreciated! > > > >Tom > > 1 RPPR files use .SNG files, so when you erase the songs from the sequencer, you can't use those patterns anymore. 2 I think the manuals are clear, but I haven't used all options of the synthesizer. (I have a N264 too) I have bought my synthesizer for the sounds, not for the sequencer and other options. (and there are enough patches in it / on the net, to wait with creating your own sounds...) 3 Well, the only thing that happens sometimes to my synthesizer is that the polarity of my damper pedal is switched. Anybody has the same problems ??? 4 Maybe your N264 is faulty. But I must say that I love my N264, and I don't know much synthesizers that offer the same sound quality for the money. (maybe the Roland XP50/XP80, but I think Korg sounds are much fatter and cooler) Another (expensive) option is the Korg Trinity, today used in almost all pop bands. Which other synthesizers would you have in mind ? Greetz, Fedde Bouwman

The manuals totally suck. I am as frustrated as you are. I thoroughly enjoy the sounds and live performance, but getting in and mucking with the thing is a bitch. HAS ANYONE SEEN ANY MANUALS WRITTEN BY OTHER SOURCES. SOME KIND OF AFTERMARKET IDIOT'S GUIDES OR SOMETHING. Sorry for shouting, but I am desperate. This is a volume machine -- thousands have been sold. There is a publishing opportunity here, if someone hasn't already done it. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Thomas Barrett [SMTP:*@*.NET] > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 1998 1:28 AM > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: N Synth Advise Request > > > > N Users, > > > > I am a newbie N264 user and have been following the dialogue. I have > > been attempting to apply information contained in the manuals for this > > instrument with mixed results. Very frustrating at times to say the > > least but I continue to have various successes. > > > > Several questions I would appreciate answers to if you guys can give me > > a hand... > > > > 1. Is any one able to get the RPPR files to function in the > > machine? > > I have been able to use the first several factory patterns but > > when I erase the sequencer and start with a clean slate, I can't > > seem to get the actual named RPPR files to function. I guess > > this may seem elementary but I'm just trying to understand the > > function and put it to some use. > > > > 2. Am I the only one to have difficulty understanding the manuals > > or > > are they weak in describing how to use functions? > > > > 3. Does the machine sometimes seem to have a mind of its own and do > > things which appear to be nowhere close to what is expected? My > > frustrations may be part of the problem but I am cureous if > > others are having similar problems. > > > > 4. And, last but not least, I have a thirty day trial period on > > this > > instrument which does not expire for several days and I can > > return it for a full refund. Is the quality of this instrument > > good enough to keep or should I be looking at something else? > > One minute I feel real good about it and seem to accomplish a > > few > > things , and the next minute I feel like it is a real loser! > > Maybe I'm the loser because I just haven't spent enough time > > with > > the silly thing yet. I have tried though and am of the distinct > > impression that there may be some problems with the hardware. > > > > Would anyone care to give me some much needed advise? It will really be > > appreciated! > > > > Tom

Fedde, > > 1 RPPR files use .SNG files, so when you erase the songs from the > > sequencer, you can't use those patterns anymore. I think I understand what you're saying but aren't they supposed to work if you load the .pst & .sng files for the RPPR named files? That's what I've tried to do without success... > > 3 Well, the only thing that happens sometimes to my synthesizer is that > the polarity of my damper pedal is switched. Anybody has the same > > problems ??? Yes, I have had the very same problem with my damper pedal on more than one occassion. I thought that it might have been a reversal switch on the bottom of the pedal moving against the floor but your experience makes me feel that it is a malfunction. > > Which other synthesizers would you have in mind ? Kurzweil? Ensoniq? I'm not sure. Does anyone know if an Ensoniq ASR10 is any good? How does it compare to the KORG. I've heard that the technical aspect of the Kurzweil is excellent but the mechanical soundness leaves a bit to be desired; is that true? One more question I'd like to ask. Does anyone know a way to save just one song from the memory to a disk. I'm not talking about a SNG group. I'm talking about ONE SONG. It seems that one song can be LOADED from within a .SNG file of songs on a disk but that you can't save just ONE SONG to a disk with a .SNG extension unless you eraase all of the other songs which might coexist in memory at the time of the save. Why in the world would it be engineered that way? Am I missing something? Thanks, Tom

>> > > 3 Well, the only thing that happens sometimes to my synthesizer is that > the polarity of my damper pedal is switched. Anybody has the same >> > > problems ??? > > > > Yes, I have had the very same problem with my damper pedal on more than > > one occassion. I thought that it might have been a reversal switch on > > the bottom of the pedal moving against the floor but your experience > > makes me feel that it is a malfunction. Check page 179 of the N364 Reference Guide. The damper pedal polarity can be set in the global parameters. It doesn't matter what your pedal does, as long as it is a switch.

> >I think I understand what you're saying but aren't they supposed to work > >if you load the .pst & .sng files for the RPPR named files? That's what > >I've tried to do without success... - Load .pst & .sng files. For example PRELOAD.SNG and PRELOAD.PST (and PRELOAD.PCG) - Go to sequencer mode <SEQ> - Choose song 3, *funk <SONG> <3> - Enable RPPR mode <CURSOR/PERF EDIT/RPPR> - Choose pattern set 3 <3> - Play ! So the only thing you have to do is to choose the right song and the right (same) pattern number. > >Yes, I have had the very same problem with my damper pedal on more than > >one occassion. I thought that it might have been a reversal switch on > >the bottom of the pedal moving against the floor but your experience > >makes me feel that it is a malfunction. Maybe a ROM version upgrade could solve this in the future (???) >> >> Which other synthesizers would you have in mind ? > > > >Kurzweil? Ensoniq? I'm not sure. Does anyone know if an Ensoniq ASR10 > >is any good? How does it compare to the KORG. I've heard that the > >technical aspect of the Kurzweil is excellent but the mechanical > >soundness leaves a bit to be desired; is that true? I don't know synthesizers other then Yamaha, Roland & Korg. My first synthesizer was a Kawai K1 (yag). A few years later I bought an Yamaha TG300 module which had nice GM sounds, but no cool synthesizer sounds. (lead/pads/effects, that sort of stuff) Since christmas I have an N264, and I like it in almost every aspect. (keyboard (good responsiveness),the wonderful patches/combinations (!), playability and design) So maybe it is caused by the difference with my previous synthesizers, but I just can't imagine that you wouldn't be happy with your N264 :-) > >One more question I'd like to ask. Does anyone know a way to save just > >one song from the memory to a disk. I'm not talking about a SNG group. > >I'm talking about ONE SONG. It seems that one song can be LOADED from > >within a .SNG file of songs on a disk but that you can't save just ONE > >SONG to a disk with a .SNG extension unless you eraase all of the other > >songs which might coexist in memory at the time of the save. Why in the > >world would it be engineered that way? Am I missing something? You can save one song in the GM format, I guess (save SMF) But maybe you would lose some information that way... Another option is to save the song to a new .SNG file, and after that you could load the song into another .SNG file. (not very practical, but it works...) Greetz, Fedde Bouwman Holland

Fedde, Fedde, There are more files that I think both of us aren't getting to... > > - Load .pst & .sng files. For example PRELOAD.SNG and PRELOAD.PST (and > > PRELOAD.PCG) > > - Go to sequencer mode <SEQ> > > - Choose song 3, *funk <SONG> <3> > > - Enable RPPR mode <CURSOR/PERF EDIT/RPPR> > > - Choose pattern set 3 <3> > > - Play ! > > > > So the only thing you have to do is to choose the right song and the right > > (same) pattern number. That's all good but still doesn't get me into the actual RPPR.SNG and RPPR.PST. I haven't had any problem getting "Funk, 90's Soul, J-Dance, & Jazz to work but to get the patterns associated with the RPPR files requires a separate load and I've had a little success tonight with it though marginal. If you look in the back of the basic guide, there are five totally different songs and pattern sets. The songs are called, "Pop Rock, Hard Rock, Latin, 70's disco, and Euro." Have you been able to get those to work or the patterns to work? I just want to understand this silly thing and put it to some use if possible. > > Maybe a ROM version upgrade could solve this in the future (???) Does KORG do that? I know that Kurzweil does upgrades with software over the NET which is really neat but I guess the KORG would have to be a chip switch eh? Probably expensive just like replacing the battery when that comes due eh? > > I just can't imagine that you wouldn't be happy with your N264 :-) Still no decision made...Exploring and learning it right now. Seems the learning curve is steep because of manuals which lack depth but pieces are beginning to fall into place and I've gotten some good stuff goin' already that I like. Looked at an SG Pro X Controller tonight that I may opt for and use synth boxes instead; seems that might have more flex. Wow, Holland eh? That's cool. I'm in the San Francisco bay area...If anyone on the list knows any of these answers please add to this. C Ya Tom

At 00:25 1998-02-05 -0800, Hasnat M wrote: > >I wonder then, let say if u want to use a combi sound on a normal pop > >song using internal or external sequencer, how u go around to do that? > >I love some combi sounds in there but I am unable to put it in my > >pieces.....which pisses me off....Right now only thing I can think of > >for the use of Combis is when u play live which I hardly do. !?!?!?!?! > >Any light on this matter fm anybody? If you want to use a combi in a song from an external sequencer, there are two solutions: 1. Copy the desired combi to an empty song in the N's internal sequencer, and then play it from the external sequencer by just sending note data (not program/bank-change) to the channel that the combi responds to. Then play the normal programs on track 9-16. This will however only work well with maximally two combis. 2. Check which programs, volume levels, pans, C/D fx sends etc that the combi uses. Then create as many tracks in the external sequencer as there are programs in the combi. Set the program/bank-changes, pans and volume levels for each track respectively, and put midi control change messages for send C/D into each of them (midi controller 91 and 93). You will probably have to copy the notes you want the new 'combi' to play, to each of the new tracks. I haven't checked how to make all channels of the combi listen to only one channel yet, but I will as soon as I start using combis this way myself. To illustrate solution 2, I'll create a small song that sets the N to sequencer mode song 9 and then plays combi A04 (World Bass from preload.pcg). I'll add some drums too, to show that it's possible to play other programs on any track available. The problem is that I can't convert this song to proper standard midi format, so I won't attach it here. I'll ask somebody else to convert it for me. I don't know how to choose effects for the fx processors by sending midi controller data yet, but I will. For now, make sure that song 9 in the N's internal sequencer is empty and uses the standard effects settings, if you want my .mid file to play correctly. Oh, there is a third solution: If you have an external sequencer that can record audio samples (and an audio recording device), you can record the combi when it's playing solo. Then use it as an audio track along with the normal midi tracks in your sequencer. I do this, and it works fine. This way, you don't have to worry about fx settings either. Please ask if there was something you didn't fully understand. I'm not very good at explaining you see... ;)

To this mail I have attached a Cubase/Cubasis .all file (combitest.all) that shows a way to use combis in an external sequencer. Track 1 and 2 contains combi A04 World Bass, and track 3 plays GM Jazz kit drums. Now, I need you Cubase/Cubasis people to help me: Please convert this song to proper standard midi file format (.mid) and send it to me. I've tried saving this song using "Export MIDI file" in the File menu of both Cubase Score 3.5 VST and Cubasis Audio 1.6, but when I play the resulting .mid file from an external midi player (such as the win95 media player), nothing (program, tempo etc) sounds right except for the notes. Please help me! It would be great if everybody who uses an external sequencer (not just us Cubase/Cubasis users) could play this example song! Thanks! Deleted: combitest.all An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were: Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="combitest.all" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="combitest.all" Attachments: Deleted: combitest.all 255 bytes

At 11:59 1998-02-05 -0800, Kaliss Elinon wrote: > >here's the korg japan site. the usa site outta be updated. it hasnt > >changed since october. except for the fact that they changed the dates > >on the special rebate offer for N364. > > > >http://www.korg.co.jp/ Thanks for the address! Though I can understand why nobody ever mentions this site. It's in Japanese only. Even if I could read 16-bit ASCII, I wouldn't understand a thing. ;) Let's mail KORG USA and tell them to update their site! By the way, has anybody heard about the N1, which is the same as the N5 except for 88 keys?

At 13:52 1998-02-06 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote: > >Well, the only thing that happens sometimes to my synthesizer is that the > >polarity of my damper pedal is switched. Anybody has the same problems??? It happened to me once, but never again. I think it had something to do with a faulty PCG I downloaded from somewhere. > >Maybe your N264 is faulty. But I must say that I love my N264, and I > >don't know much synthesizers that offer the same sound quality for the money. I think the same. The N264/N364 has so MANY good sounds, and only a few bad ones. The good/bad ratio is a lot higher than on any other synthesizer I've ever tried. And that's when using preload.pcg. After substituting a couple of programs (e.g. a piano or two and some drumsets) the N can be absolutely brilliant!

At 08:17 1998-02-06 -0800, Mark Hickling wrote: > >The manuals totally suck. I am as frustrated as you are. I thoroughly > >enjoy the sounds and live performance, but getting in and mucking with the > >thing is a bitch. The real bad part of the manuals is the midi chart in the back of the Reference Guide, which is unreadable and overcomplex. The other parts of the manuals are ok though. I agree that the internal sequencer is very difficult to use if you want to have total control. Patch programming isn't too difficult though. > >HAS ANYONE SEEN ANY MANUALS WRITTEN BY OTHER SOURCES. SOME KIND OF > >AFTERMARKET IDIOT'S GUIDES OR SOMETHING. Sorry for shouting, but I am > >desperate. Dunno, but I think not. Ask KORG. A tip is to read the Basic Guide thorougly before the Reference Guide. If you're desperate, then feel free to ask any questions and we will try to answer them. That's what this list is for. > >This is a volume machine -- thousands have been sold. There is a publishing > >opportunity here, if someone hasn't already done it. That's true. If we try to get all N users with email accounts to join this list, there is good chance that somebody knows if there are any alternative manuals around.

At 01:28 1998-02-06 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: > > 2. Am I the only one to have difficulty understanding the manuals > > or are they weak in describing how to use functions? You'll have to put a bit of effort into reading them carefully. Time consuming, but I'm sure it pays off. > > 3. Does the machine sometimes seem to have a mind of its own and do > > things which appear to be nowhere close to what is expected? No, not unless you have a faulty N264. Do you have an example? > > Is the quality of this instrument > > good enough to keep or should I be looking at something else? > > One minute I feel real good about it and seem to accomplish a > > few > > things , and the next minute I feel like it is a real loser! I felt the same in the beginning. But after having had my N364 for 8 months I wouldn't switch for another. Though I might buy a virtual-analog synthesizer (such as the Nord Lead) as a completion, since the N can't actually synthesize sounds (it uses samples). It is however possible to program patches with fat analog feeling (I've done a few), and also construct TR-808/909-like drumkits, so the N is quite flexible. > > I have tried though and am of the distinct > > impression that there may be some problems with the hardware. I doubt it, but perhaps there are some hidden flaws I haven't discovered yet?

Kenneth, > > Do you have an example? I can't give one right now but most would be involving the sequencer. I get so frustrated, I cause things to happen trying to correct an error too quickly sometimes. I guess a class like Self Control 101010101010 might help separate machine vs. man malfunction eh? Anyway, you're an encouragement and your comments are appreciated! Still trying to load and explore the possibilities of RPPR.SNG & .PST though. C Ya, Tom

At 13:45 1998-02-06 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: > >One more question I'd like to ask. Does anyone know a way to save just > >one song from the memory to a disk. Not possible to save one single song to a SNG file. This is possibly because KORG didn't want to have two formats of SNG files, one-song and multiple-song. It COULD be confusing... But: Just to check, I saved a song as a format1 SMF (.mid) from disk menu page 5B, and then loaded it (via page 5A) to an an empty song in the sequencer. It sounds EXACTLY the same, so there's no apparent loss of information! Hence the solution of is simple: save in SMF format when you want to save only one song.

At 12:07 7-2-98 -0800, you wrote: > >Kenneth, > > >> >> Do you have an example? > > > >I can't give one right now but most would be involving the sequencer. I > >get so frustrated, I cause things to happen trying to correct an error > >too quickly sometimes. I guess a class like Self Control 101010101010 > >might help separate machine vs. man malfunction eh? > > > >Anyway, you're an encouragement and your comments are appreciated! > >Still trying to load and explore the possibilities of RPPR.SNG & .PST > >though. This is what you have to do to get the other RPPR patterns: 1. Load RPPR.SNG <DISK> <CURSOR UP> <CURSOR UP> (1 C,LOAD SONG) <YES> press <YES> or <NO> till you find the right file (RPPR.SNG) <CURSOR RIGHT> <YES> 2. Load RPPR Patternset <DISK> <CURSOR UP> (1 D,LOAD PSET) <YES> choose RPPR <CURSOR RIGHT <YES> 3. Choose the song number you want 4. Choose the right pattern number 5. Play ! This will work, I guess. Greetz, Fedde Bouwman

Kenneth, Good stuph. Thnx guy! Tom

everytime i go to this website, i get a "forbidden" message. am i the only one?? or is this guy super constructing his page? or what? just wondering. http://www.jtan.com/~john/ -kaliss

Fedde, On Saturday at 1658 hrs you wrote: > > This is what you have to do to get the other RPPR patterns: > > > > 1. Load RPPR.SNG > > <DISK> <CURSOR UP> <CURSOR UP> (1 C,LOAD SONG) > > <YES> > > press <YES> or <NO> till you find the right file (RPPR.SNG) > > <CURSOR RIGHT> <YES> > > > > 2. Load RPPR Patternset > > <DISK> <CURSOR UP> (1 D,LOAD PSET) > > <YES> > > choose RPPR > > <CURSOR RIGHT <YES> > > > > 3. Choose the song number you want > > 4. Choose the right pattern number > > 5. Play ! > > > > This will work, I guess. > > > > Greetz, > > > > Fedde Bouwman I have attempted what you describe with very marginal success. I'm in the middle of another project right now and using the synth so I can't try it right now. I can't seem to make sense out of the RPPR chart on page 66 of the basic guide or the preload chart for that matter. I can't honestly say that I've spend a whole lot of time on trying to understand it though. I will have to seriously sit down and study the charts to understand how to apply it. My frustration seems to be that when I start to study areas of the manual, it just doesn't seem to work as expected and I start on a trial and error mission; I've had remarkable results through the trial and error approach though. Anyway, thanks for the help Fedde. :) C Ya, Tom

Hey techies, can you answer this one? I am working on a sequencer project where I've got program A98 on channel one with its effect(s) transferred to the song and a drum track working on channel 10. I want to use the B71 Hammond sound in one of the tracks but have run into a problem. When playing the B71 program in "live" mode, away from the sequencer, I can use the value slider to emulate the Leslie speaker rotor but in sequencer mode, that function is lost. Is there any way to have the freedom to switch Leslie on/off while in sequencer mode and also have the freedom to control speed of horn revolution as is the case in "live" mode? Thnx 4 N E Help Tom

At 12:07 1998-02-07 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: >> >> Do you have an example? > > > >I can't give one right now but most would be involving the sequencer. Oh, I understand. Haven't gone too deep into it, but since it's a whole lot easier to compose with a computerbased sequencer, I probably won't either. I use the internal seuqencer of the N only to do quick recordings of something nice I've come up with when playing. Then I do some quantizing and perhaps copy parts of a track here and there, but it's very cumbersome, so I prefer using my PC instead. > >Anyway, you're an encouragement and your comments are appreciated! Thanks! Cheers!

At 03:47 1998-02-07 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: > >Looked at an SG Pro X Controller tonight that I may opt for and use synth > >boxes instead; seems that might have more flex. Then you must have a lot of money! :) And I believe it would be more difficult to use a controller together with external synth modules than learning the N264/364. If you have the money, buy a computer and start using a computerbased sequencer. Atleast it will be a whole lot easier to compose.

At 18:33 1998-02-07 -0800, Kaliss Elinon wrote: > >everytime i go to this website, i get a "forbidden" message. am i the > >only one?? or is this guy super constructing his page? or what? just > >wondering. > >http://www.jtan.com/~john/ The same happens to me. A reason why this could be happening is that John has put access restriction on his home page directory. Perhaps accidentally. Since he himself will be able to see his homepage, he won't know that others can't. Try find his email address and send him a mail. Ofcourse, it could also be that he's doing some major updating, and he doesn't want to let people in until it's finished.

At 02:25 1998-02-08 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: > >I am working on a sequencer project where I've got program A98 on > >channel one with its effect(s) transferred to the song and a drum track > >working on channel 10. I want to use the B71 Hammond sound in one of > >the tracks but have run into a problem. When playing the B71 program in > >"live" mode, away from the sequencer, I can use the value slider to > >emulate the Leslie speaker rotor but in sequencer mode, that function is > >lost. Is there any way to have the freedom to switch Leslie on/off > >while in sequencer mode and also have the freedom to control speed of > >horn revolution as is the case in "live" mode? You have a double-sided problem here: 1. The N only has two fx processors, so if you want to use the rotary speaker effect of program B71, you must copy its 1st effect to one of the sequencer effect settings. 2. When you've done that, you can use the leslie by applying aftertouch to the keys. But if you want to, you can use the joystick instead (no, it's unfortunately not possible to use the value slider since it's used for other things in seq mode). Enter seq edit mode, go to the page where the leslie effect resides (7A or 7C depending to where you've copied the settings), and go two pages to the right from there. You can now see Src:xxxxx. Change that to Src:JS(-Y) or Src:JS(+Y) depending on which direction you want to move the joystick (up or down). Cheers!

On Sunday at 0847 Kenneth Jonsson wrote, > > Then you must have a lot of money! :) No, just looking for flexibility and quality. > > If you have the money, buy a computer and start using a computerbased > > sequencer. At least it will be a whole lot easier to compose. I think that's exectly where I'm headed. Thnx, Tom

On Sunday at 0911 Kenneth Jonsson wrote, > > You have a double-sided problem here: > > 1. The N only has two fx processors, so if you want to use the rotary > > speaker effect of program B71, you must copy its 1st effect to one > > of the sequencer effect settings. If I am understanding you correctly, if I already am using a "double" program in the sequence (as is the case with A98) the only way I would be able to use the "Leslie" would be to either use a "single" program or make A98 a single program; is that correct? > > 2. When you've done that, you can use the leslie by applying aftertouch > > to the keys. But if you want to, you can use the joystick instead > > (no, it's unfortunately not possible to use the value slider since > > it's used for other things in seq mode). Enter seq edit mode, go to > > the page where the leslie effect resides (7A or 7C depending to > > where you've copied the settings), and go two pages to the right > > from there. You can now see Src:xxxxx. Change that to Src:JS(-Y) or > > Src:JS(+Y) depending on which direction you want to move the > > joystick (up or down). I'll give it a go! Thnx, Tom

At 13:31 1998-02-08 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: > >If I am understanding you correctly, if I already am using a "double" > >program in the sequence (as is the case with A98) the only way I would > >be able to use the "Leslie" would be to either use a "single" program or > >make A98 a single program; is that correct? No, you can use double oscillator programs without any problems. I'm talking about the fx settings. Take a look at page 7A and 7C in edit mode.

Kenneth Jonsson, I'll try your suggestion tomorrow regarding the fx adjustment to joy stick but I'd like to ask you, or anyone else who might really be in the know, a question about computers. I'm an IBM user from way back but not in music applications. I seem to be getting the distinct impression that Mac is the only way to go in music. Is that correct or has IBM caught up as some (though few) seem to claim. One guy even said that IBM meant "I'm Becoming A Mac." Anyway, should I be seriously considering Apple despite another learning curve climb or will IBM do the job as well. Thnx, Tom

At 00:22 9-2-98 -0800, you wrote: > >Kenneth Jonsson, > > > >I'll try your suggestion tomorrow regarding the fx adjustment to joy > >stick but I'd like to ask you, or anyone else who might really be in the > >know, a question about computers. > > > >I'm an IBM user from way back but not in music applications. I seem to > >be getting the distinct impression that Mac is the only way to go in > >music. Is that correct or has IBM caught up as some (though few) seem > >to claim. One guy even said that IBM meant "I'm Becoming A Mac." > > > >Anyway, should I be seriously considering Apple despite another learning > >curve climb or will IBM do the job as well. > > > >Thnx, > > > >Tom Apple & music ?????????? The Atari ST used to be the midi computer, but today almost all good music programs from the ST have been converted to PC. (Cubase for example) Furthermore, there a lots of good sound cards to plug in a PC. (ie Turtle Beach, and synthesizer cards from various manufacturers) I think that you can buy a PC for a lot less than an Apple, and I think that it will be good enough for sequencing or even harddisk recording. Greetz, Fedde Bouwman

I just can't resist putting in my 2 cents! o;-) The debate over PC/Mac is finally dying, but will probably never completely die. The war bagan when Apple realized that its computer was not very good at providing business computations. It did, however, have a pretty cool drawing program that everybody seemed to like. Since IBM was mainly a business computer, and art was for kids, they did not pursue the graphic design industy, which was seriously considering the possibilities of computer design. Apple took hold of the reigns and made the Mac into a "graphic design powerhouse". They built a HUGE loyalty to their computer, mainly because most artists did not have any knowledge of computers, making the make an easy way to still do their jobs. When IBM realized the huge market (several years to late!), they started to give options to the graphics industries. Over the years, PCs have been able to finally "catch up" to the Mac in graphics performance. The only problem is - Mac users are very dedicated to their machines! The PC is by cheaper by far, you don't need special harware or expensive software to run graphics programs, and a host of other benefits. In your particular situation, the PC is a much better, cheaper option than the Mac. Software is readily available, and the PC has no fear of disappearing for quite some time, unlike the Mac. Apple plans on concentrating on the high-end market (which is mainly for graphics) and eliminating the consumer market, which would leave you in the cold. For MIDI sequencing and arranging, you don't need a brand new powerful computer, you can get a used one for under $800, and it will perform fine for you. Be wary, however of the fact that most software companies are not supporting Windows 3.1 anymore, and for that matter many require at least a Pentium to run their software. I hope this will help you decide which platform to purchase. Although both computers have their ups and downs, but the PC is much better suited for your applications! Erik A devoted graphics professional using the PC ;o) Fedde Bouwman wrote: > > > > At 00:22 9-2-98 -0800, you wrote: >> > >Kenneth Jonsson, >> > > >> > >I'll try your suggestion tomorrow regarding the fx adjustment to joy >> > >stick but I'd like to ask you, or anyone else who might really be in the >> > >know, a question about computers. >> > > >> > >I'm an IBM user from way back but not in music applications. I seem to >> > >be getting the distinct impression that Mac is the only way to go in >> > >music. Is that correct or has IBM caught up as some (though few) seem >> > >to claim. One guy even said that IBM meant "I'm Becoming A Mac." >> > > >> > >Anyway, should I be seriously considering Apple despite another learning >> > >curve climb or will IBM do the job as well. >> > > >> > >Thnx, >> > > >> > >Tom > > Apple & music ?????????? > > The Atari ST used to be the midi computer, but today almost all good music > > programs > > from the ST have been converted to PC. (Cubase for example) > > Furthermore, there a lots of good sound cards to plug in a PC. > > (ie Turtle Beach, and synthesizer cards from various manufacturers) > > I think that you can buy a PC for a lot less than an Apple, and I think that > > it will be good enough for sequencing or even harddisk recording. > > > > Greetz, > > > > Fedde Bouwman

In a message dated 98-02-09 03:24:07 EST, you write: << Is that correct or has IBM caught up as some (though few) seem to claim. >> look-mac users will tell you mac is the best...ibm users will tell you ibm is the best... if you know ibm, then get ibm...youre gonna have to learn your sequencing program anyway-why bother yourself with more then you need...

At 15:48 1998-02-09 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote: > >but today almost all good music programs >from the ST have been converted to PC. (Cubase for example) Most (if not all) larger sequencers (e.g. Cubase) exist on the Mac also, so it's just a matter of taste when it comes to choosing bewteen Mac and PC. > >I think that you can buy a PC for a lot less than an Apple, and I think that > >it will be good enough for sequencing or even harddisk recording. Yes, a PC is generally cheaper.

At 00:22 1998-02-09 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: > >Anyway, should I be seriously considering Apple despite another learning > >curve climb or will IBM do the job as well. Doesn't matter which you choose. Both will work well for sequencing purposes.

Kenneth, You wrote, > > You have a double-sided problem here: > > > > 1. The N only has two fx processors, so if you want to use the rotary speaker > > effect of program B71, you must copy its 1st effect to one of the sequencer > > effect settings. > > > > 2. When you've done that, you can use the leslie by applying aftertouch to the > > keys. But if you want to, you can use the joystick instead (no, it's > > unfortunately not possible to use the value slider since it's used for other > > things in seq mode). Enter seq edit mode, go to the page where the leslie > > effect resides (7A or 7C depending to where you've copied the settings), and > > go two pages to the right from there. You can now see Src:xxxxx. Change that > > to Src:JS(-Y) or Src:JS(+Y) depending on which direction you want to move the > > joystick (up or down). One question before I proceed which may eliminate my need to proceed. When I copy the Leslie to one of the two FX processors and activate the rotor am I correct to assume that ALL instruments loaded in that sequence will have rotor added for that period of time? Can I also assume that if this is correct, ALL instruments would also have a SLOW rotor going all the time too? That's not too good! Let's see, how do I make this glass half full? Thnx, Tom

At 10:00 1998-02-09 -0600, Erik Olson wrote: > >The debate over PC/Mac is finally dying, but will probably never > >completely die. Just as a precaution, I need to say this to everybody: Please don't start a Mac <-> PC fight now. This isn't the right place for that. You may all write anything you like about computers, but don't start any arguments. Oh, and I'm not saying that you're starting a fight, Erik.

At 13:06 1998-02-09 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: > >When I copy the Leslie to one of the two FX processors and activate the > >rotor am I correct to assume that ALL instruments loaded in that > >sequence will have rotor added for that period of time? Yes, but you can eliminate that problem by setting send C or D (depending on which processor you put the leslie) to 0 for all tracks except the one that you have the organ on. Now, if you want to have reverb fx on all instruments (tracks), you must set the other fx processor to reverb. This means that you can't add e.g. a guitar instrument that uses the distortion fx, since then you would have to set both send C AND D to 0 on all instruents which aren't using dist or leslie to 0. You wouldn't have any reverb at all then, except if you use an external fx processor ofcourse. Are you beginning to understand why I want more fx processors in the N? :)

At 23:12 1998-02-09 +0000, Ann Elisabeth Nordbo wrote: >>>> >>>> What puzzles me are those 2 audio INs!?!? >>> >>> >>> >>>Simple! You have another keyboard you can let the audio outs from >>> >>>that board go through your N5, then into your stereo system. Saves >>> >>>you from buying a line mixer. >> >> >> >>But can effects be added? If not, there's not much use of it. A small >> >>stereo mixer isn't expensive. > > > >To you maybe, but for me there is a difference. I have an i5m module > >that lets me patch through, and I've never even thought about adding > >effects. I'd think it would be better if it didn't. This only > >reflects on the intended use of the N5. The Technics K2000 also has > >this patchtrough. I think it points to the N5 not being meant for the > >big pros. Can't be sure of that, of course. I see. But if the N5 can add effect to the two inputs it would still be a pro setup. There are a couple of expensive synths which have this feature. The reason why I think it would be nice, is that it for instance would be possible to add good-quality reverb to my the output from my soundcard by sending it through the N5's fx processors. Ok, I've got an on-board DSP on my soundcard that can add a couple of effects, but its not as good as the DSP fx processors in the N (and X) family. Besides, these audio inputs could indicate that the N5 can sample sound. If that's the case, I'd probably switch to an N5 rather quickly, depending on the amount of available RAM it would have. > >Don't have a small mixer, unfortunately. Also > >remember that mixers have problems with sound. Small inexpensive > >mixers sound shit! Chief reason why I don't have one. Good ears, > >but don't want to shell out. I've got a quite inexpensive (less than a tenth of the N364 price) stereo mixer with 4 stereo inputs - the M4-S from Bespeco. Very few components - only level sliders and an amplified mix + a peak indicator. Nevertheless, the amount of distortion it adds to the mix is not hearable at all. Only when I put my amp and the mixer's master level to the absolute maximum volume, some distortion hiss can be heard. Even the store keeper was surprised. My Soundblaster AWE64 Gold soundcard has a LOT more hiss. I can promise you that not every inexpensive mixer is bad, eventhough perhaps many are.

excuse me if this is a dumb question, but how do i get the leslie effect? thanx kaliss

Kaliss, You wrote, > > excuse me if this is a dumb question, but how do i get the leslie > > effect? thanx > > kaliss The only dumb question is the unasked one! I'm new at this too but am gleaning much needed help from those who have gone before me. Hang in there! Some of the sounds already have the controller set to value slider (just left of the LCD screen) for the Leslie. You can experiment to see which ones but for starters, switch to Program B71-Super BX-3 and bring the slider all the way to the bottom. Play a note or chord and begin sliding the slider up slowly. You are now activating the Leslie and have, for the most part, significantly more control over this effect than what is available through the traditional Leslie from what I can see. It's pretty neat! >From Kenneth Jonsson's response to the N-Users Group and me, I attach the following regarding Leslie FX used in sequencer mode. I actually got it to work today and felt a "light go on!" Thanks Kenneth! And yes I do understand why more FX are needed in the N! But at least my cup's half full now... :-))) The remainder was posted by Kenneth: You have a double-sided problem here: 1. The N only has two fx processors, so if you want to use the rotary speaker effect of program B71, you must copy its 1st effect to one of the sequencer effect settings. 2. When you've done that, you can use the leslie by applying aftertouch to the keys. But if you want to, you can use the joystick instead (no, it's unfortunately not possible to use the value slider since it's used for other things in seq mode). Enter seq edit mode, go to the page where the leslie effect resides (7A or 7C depending to where you've copied the settings), and go two pages to the right from there. You can now see Src:xxxxx. Change that to Src:JS(-Y) or Src:JS(+Y) depending on which direction you want to move the joystick (up or down). Well, that's about it Kaliss. Good luck! Tom

At 08.17 06/02/98 -0800, Mark Hickling wrote: > >The manuals totally suck. I am as frustrated as you are. I thoroughly > >enjoy the sounds and live performance, but getting in and mucking with the > >thing is a bitch. > > > >HAS ANYONE SEEN ANY MANUALS WRITTEN BY OTHER SOURCES. SOME KIND OF > >AFTERMARKET IDIOT'S GUIDES OR SOMETHING. Sorry for shouting, but I am > >desperate. > > Hi, I've the Italian version of the manuals, and they are very understable. If you have any question on how to make something with the N, feel free to ask me. Even if my English is not very good I hope I may help you. Bye Francesco

Kenneth, I use both the Mac and PC at my job, and both of them have their ups and downs. I am not trying to start a fight. I know how absurd the subject is! In my opinion, whatever gets the job done for YOU, is the best machine. I simply was trying to state the fact that PCs are much cheaper than a Mac (typically), and wanted to destroy the myth that one computer is better than the other. That's not my intention at all! o:-) I hope no one took it that way! Erik Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > > > At 10:00 1998-02-09 -0600, Erik Olson wrote: > > >> > >The debate over PC/Mac is finally dying, but will probably never >> > >completely die. > > > > Just as a precaution, I need to say this to everybody: > > > > Please don't start a Mac <-> PC fight now. This isn't the right place for > > that. You may all write anything you like about computers, but don't start > > any arguments. > > > > Oh, and I'm not saying that you're starting a fight, Erik.

Hi! I hope I can explain how does RPPR works one time to all. I will use the RPPR set that korg give with the keyboard: 1) Load RPPR.SNG (this file contains for every songs the right track-channel-sound combination for the associated RPPR set) 2) Load RPPR.PST (this file contains the information on the note that every pattern will play and the association with the track of the song) 3) in SEQ mode use the page 9 to select the song you want to play, e.g. POP ROCK 4) Now press the upper cursor (PERF EDIT/RPPR) 5) Now use the value key to choese the right pattern set, in this case PS0: Pop Rock 6) Play Note that if you use for example the Hard Rock song with the Pop Rock pattern set you may have that the drums play with a piano sound 'cause the song is not rightly configured for this pattern set. I hope now will works. Sorry for my English :-)) P.S : About the damper pedal: is not a software bug of the N. This happen because when you load a new PCG file you load also the Global setting saved with the file, so also the configuration of the damper polarity. For example if you have a damper with + polarity and you load a PCG file made by people who had a - damper polarity your setting will change.

Looks like the italian ref. guide realy IS better. thanx -Toon

Hi, Sergio Lodi wrote: > > > > Hi! > > I hope I can explain how does RPPR works one time to all. > > I will use the RPPR set that korg give with the keyboard: > > > > 1) Load RPPR.SNG (this file contains for every songs the right > > track-channel-sound combination for the associated RPPR set) > > > > 2) Load RPPR.PST (this file contains the information on the note that every > > pattern will play and the association with the track of the song) > > > > 3) in SEQ mode use the page 9 to select the song you want to play, e.g. POP ROCK > > > > 4) Now press the upper cursor (PERF EDIT/RPPR) > > > > 5) Now use the value key to choese the right pattern set, in this case PS0: > > Pop Rock > > > > 6) Play > > > > Note that if you use for example the Hard Rock song with the Pop Rock > > pattern set you may have that the drums play with a piano sound 'cause the > > song is not rightly configured for this pattern set. > > > > I hope now will works. > > Sorry for my English :-)) > > > > P.S : About the damper pedal: is not a software bug of the N. This happen > > because when you load a new PCG file you load also the Global setting saved > > with the file, so also the configuration of the damper polarity. For example > > if you have a damper with + polarity and you load a PCG file made by people > > who had a - damper polarity your setting will change. Thanks Sergio! I'll try it again. I thought I had done it like that but I think maybe I tried to match pattern with song number which may have been the problem. Do you live in Italy? My wife & I love Italy! Cappucino....prego,prgeo.. :) C Yah, Tom

Toon Theuwis wrote: > > > > Looks like the italian ref. guide realy IS better. > > > > thanx > > > > -Toon Well put!! Tom

At 16:30 1998-02-09 -0800, Kaliss Elinon wrote: > >excuse me if this is a dumb question, but how do i get the leslie > >effect? thanx Oh, well, the effect isn't named leslie, but "rotary speaker". Another name for the same effect. It's effect number 34 (and 47).

ok i get it now. thanx fer answerin. kaliss ---Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE> wrote: > > > > At 16:30 1998-02-09 -0800, Kaliss Elinon wrote: > > >> > >excuse me if this is a dumb question, but how do i get the leslie >> > >effect? thanx > > > > Oh, well, the effect isn't named leslie, but "rotary speaker". Another > > name for the same effect. It's effect number 34 (and 47).

Is it just me or does this bode ill for us Nx64 users? Is this thing I paid so dearly for going to go the way of the T series? I love my keyboard but I was disappointed with so much on it; I even wrote Korg USA about my gripes (I was very curteous about it), but my letter was promptly and expediently ignored. So if no one minds here, can I share my tribulations with you? First of all, I hope that this upgrade business that some people are mentioning is not a fantasy but a real possibility. More fx would be nice, but resonant filters would be much nicer. What is this "color" parameter? I have cranked it before and I don't hear but minute difference in the sound. What does Korg have against resonance? Maybe my analog synth has me spoiled, but even my old Kawai K4 had some rockin filters on it. The other bone I have to pick is this arpeggiator. Useless. Absolutely Useless (except, of course, to annoy my bandmates with). O sure; you can do all kinds of neat patterns, latch it, sync it, gate it, etc, etc, etc, but, uh.......tempo? c'mon!!! (drummer): "What's the tempo on that arpeggiator there?" (Keyboardist with N364): "Ummmm....67" (drummer): "67 beats per minute???" Keyboardist with N364): "No...ummm...just "67"! You know..." Did it ever occur to Korg that we might want to know the tempo of the notes spewing out of our synths? Maybe we'd like to sync it to the sequencer? Am I crazy here? I hope not! Well the one redeeming thing about this 'board is that she sounds AWESOME. I can't argue with that. Anyone got a good violin patch, though? the GM patch sounds like a dx21 played through a blown speaker. Anyway, if any upgrade is possible, there's my wishlist. I have a bad feeling though, that the trinity, z1, and n5 are going to send our beautiful little Nx64s off to pasture. :-(

Hi all, there seem to be a bit of misunderstanding of what this list is about, probably caused by the name of the list. When Kenneth and I started this list, we had the intention of having an unmoderated list about the N-series Synthesizers, the N364/N264. However probably due to the name of the list N-list some people think it's also about the N5SR or maybe in the feature the N1 and N5. This was not our intention to do so. But if you people want we also can include those Synths in this list. Hmm.. we should make some decisions about the list, I have a few options I'm thinking about... 1. Change the name of the list, so that we can specifically address the Nx64 synths... 2. Split up the lists (can't do that much more, due to the current restrictions in the light version of this listserver). I'm not feeling much for this one, sorry folks.. 3. Keep this list and also discuss problems/thingies about the N5SR and other N-synths. In this case you could start the subject line with the name of the synth you are referring to in your mail.. like: Subject: Nx64: Help!!! or something like this... I would go for option 3, however (duh, I'm starting to sound like Tuvok) I'm VERY open for other suggestions, please mail me, Kenneth or Both or this list with your suggestions. The number of people on this list is growing and I don't want to have more people screaming and running away because of the mass overdose of Nx64 discussions... Let me know what you think about this... Greetz from da Netherlands, Hero Idema (list owner, together with Kenneth ofcouse.. :) Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services *@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl +31-(0)79-* *@*.nl

Well spoken !!! The ARP is indeed a pain in the ***. I think the steps/units in the parameters should be changed. Sometimes it is 15, another time in is 100, or 99 or God only knows what. I ask the Korg engineers: 'How the F*** do we synchronize, or add the same amount of effect with these different kind of parameters? HUH? C'mon. GET A LIFE! -Toon On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Alan Moore wrote: > > Is it just me or does this bode ill for us Nx64 users? Is this thing I paid > > so dearly for going to go the way of the T series? > > I love my keyboard but I was disappointed with so much on it; I even wrote > > Korg USA about my gripes (I was very curteous about it), but my letter was > > promptly and expediently ignored. So if no one minds here, can I share my > > tribulations with you? > > First of all, I hope that this upgrade business that some people are > > mentioning is not a fantasy but a real possibility. More fx would be nice, > > but resonant filters would be much nicer. What is this "color" parameter? I > > have cranked it before and I don't hear but minute difference in the sound. > > What does Korg have against resonance? Maybe my analog synth has me spoiled, > > but even my old Kawai K4 had some rockin filters on it. > > The other bone I have to pick is this arpeggiator. Useless. Absolutely > > Useless (except, of course, to annoy my bandmates with). O sure; you can do > > all kinds of neat patterns, latch it, sync it, gate it, etc, etc, etc, but, > > uh.......tempo? c'mon!!! > > (drummer): "What's the tempo on that arpeggiator there?" > > (Keyboardist with N364): "Ummmm....67" > > (drummer): "67 beats per minute???" > > Keyboardist with N364): "No...ummm...just "67"! You know..." > > Did it ever occur to Korg that we might want to know the tempo of the notes > > spewing out of our synths? Maybe we'd like to sync it to the sequencer? Am I > > crazy here? I hope not! > > Well the one redeeming thing about this 'board is that she sounds AWESOME. I > > can't argue with that. Anyone got a good violin patch, though? the GM patch > > sounds like a dx21 played through a blown speaker. > > Anyway, if any upgrade is possible, there's my wishlist. I have a bad feeling > > though, that the trinity, z1, and n5 are going to send our beautiful little > > Nx64s off to pasture. > > :-( > >

I think this should stay a forum only for N264/364 users -Toon

N1/N5 Hi everyone, For those who are interested, here is a quote on N1/N5's feature list and specs from Korg Proview issue 11 which I recieved in the mail today. Sound Generation method: AI2 Synthesis System (Full Digital Processing); 64 voices (single mode), 32 voices (double mode); Waveform Memory: N5 - PCM 12 Mbytes (528 multisamples + 286 drum samples), N1 - PCM 18 Mbytes (563 multisamples + 286 drum samples); Effects: 2 digital multi-effect system, 48 effects; Programs: Preset 1,169 programs /302 combinations / 37 drum kits, User area 100 programs / 100 combinations / 2 drum kits; Arpeggiator: 20 patterns, Internal clock speed 40-240 bpm; Number of Multi Timbre: 32; Communication Terminal: Computer interface (to host PC); Outputs: L/MONO, R, Headphones (Stereo mini jack); MIDI: IN, OUT, THRU; Display: Custom LCD 144 x 40 full dot matrix (Amber/Yellow green with backlight). ...The internal preset area contains 1,169 sound programs which include a full GM sound set...The user area lets you store 100 sound programs and 100 combinations, putting a mammoth total of 1,269 programs and 402 combinations at your fingertips. ...The front panel provides four knobs for dynamic, analog-style control in realtime - VDFA Attack/Release Times, VDF Cutoff, and Effect Dynamic Modulation. You can also choose from twelve other parameters for assignment to these knobs, letting you control a total of sixteen different parameters...There are dedicated front panel switches for portamento and to layer or split programs and combinations. These settings can be stored in internal memory as one of 32 "performances", so that sound setting can be recalled instantly while you play. A MIDI START/STOP switch is also provided for easy control of an external sequencer. ...The N1/N5's arpeggiator can be synchronized with an external sequencer...you can choose the area of the keyboard (Lower, Upper, All) which will play an arpeggio... ...The N1/N5 features a 144 x 40 pixel full-graphic backlit LCD that can be switched between amber or green. LFO waveforms, bar graphs, pan, level, keyboard diagrams and more are displayed visually allowing for exceptionally easy sound editing. Plus, in the Performance mode 16 types of icons provide instant visual confirmation of the functions of the N1/N5's controller knobs. ...The N1/N5 provides GM, GS and XG-compatible sound maps, allowing it to play back all types of commercially available MIDI file data. End of quote. Note: The article says nothing about an internal sequencer or inputs of any kind, so, I guess, it would be safe to assume that N1/N5 just don't posses any of those features. Dmitry

> > > >I think this should stay a forum only for N264/364 users > > > > > >-Toon > > I agree, 'cause otherwise, it will just get too crowded I mean too many msgs will get in here that Nx64 ppl may not need... :) But I guess it depends on all members agrees upon... --Hasnat

In a message dated 98-02-11 19:57:02 EST, you write: << I think this should stay a forum only for N264/364 users > > >-Toon >> i also agree...

At 11:39 1998-02-11 +0100, Hero Idema wrote: > >3. Keep this list and also discuss problems/thingies about the N5SR and > > other N-synths. I think that's a good idea. It can't hurt us Nx64 users to read about the NS5R and N1/N5. It won't be too hard to simply delete a mail that doesn't interest you. I don't think flooding will be an issue. But if it is, the list can ofcourse be limited to Nx64 only.

At 19:16 1998-02-11 -0400, Dmitry wrote: > >For those who are interested, here is a quote on N1/N5's feature list and specs >from Korg Proview issue 11 which I recieved in the mail today. Thanks a lot! Keep this kind of information coming! I'll do some commenting on the features, to compare with the Nx64: >Sound Generation method: AI2 Synthesis System (Full Digital Processing) Same as Nx64. >64 voices (single mode), 32 voices (double mode) Same. >Waveform Memory: N5 - PCM 12 Mbytes (528 multisamples + 286 drum samples) > N1 - PCM 18 Mbytes (563 >multisamples + 286 drum samples) The N5 has the same samples as the NS5R (?). The N1 probably has the same samples as the NS5R + an additional 6 MB of piano samples?? The Nx64 has 8 Mbytes PCM (430 multisamples + 215 drum samples). >Effects: 2 digital multi-effect system, 48 effects Same as Nx64, except for 1 extra effect (unless it's a typo). The Nx64 has 47 effects. >Programs: Preset 1,169 programs / 302 combinations / 37 drum kits User area 100 programs / 100 combinations / 2 drum kits Nx64: Preset 236 programs (prog bank C & D + 136 GM) / 200 combis (combi bank C & D) / 12 drum kits (C1, C2, D1, D2, R1-R8) User 200 programs (prog bank A & B) / 200 combis (combi bank A & B) / 4 drum kits (A1, A2, B1, B2) Total 436 programs / 400 combis / 16 drum kits Does the N5 really have 1169 preset programs????? >Arpeggiator: 20 patterns Nx64 has 5. > >Internal clock speed 40-240 bpm Same. >Number of Multi Timbre: 32 I wonder what that means? ;) >Communication Terminal: Computer interface (to host PC) What is a "to host" interface and what is it used for? Please fell me in. >Outputs: L/MONO, R, Headphones (Stereo mini jack) Nx64 has the additional outputs 3 and 4. >MIDI: IN, OUT, THRU Same. > >The front panel provides four knobs for dynamic, analog-style control in > >realtime - VDFA Attack/Release Times, VDF Cutoff, and Effect Dynamic > >Modulation. You can also choose from twelve other parameters for assignment > >to these knobs, letting you control a total of sixteen different > >parameters... Interesting, eventhough I suspect that the dynamic modulation is more or less the same as the performance edit mode on the Nx64. Having knob-control instead of arrow up/down is a good idea. > >There are dedicated front panel switches for portamento and to > >layer or split programs and combinations. These settings can be stored in > >internal memory as one of 32 "performances", so that sound setting can be > >recalled instantly while you play. A traditional split would be great to have. Using splits on the Nx64 is really a pain in the butt. > >A MIDI START/STOP switch is also provided for easy control of an external > >sequencer. Same as the start/stop on the Nx64. I'm sure that the Nx64 has better abilities to control an external sequencer. For instance, it's possible to control measure number on an external sequencer from the Nx64 (if the external sequencer is synchronised to the midi clock of the Nx64). > >...The N1/N5's arpeggiator can be synchronized with an external sequencer.. > >you can choose the area of the keyboard (Lower, Upper, All) which will play > >an arpeggio... This must be interesting for some of the people on this list. :) > >The N1/N5 features a 144 x 40 pixel full-graphic backlit LCD that can be > >switched between amber or green. LFO waveforms, bar graphs, pan, level, > >keyboard diagrams and more are displayed visually allowing for exceptionally > >easy sound editing. Plus, in the Performance mode 16 types of icons provide > >instant visual confirmation of the functions of the N1/N5's controller knobs. This sounds very interesting. A graphical user interface is very welcome. Too bad it wasn't included in the Nx64. > >The N1/N5 provides GM, GS and XG-compatible sound maps, allowing it to play > >back all types of commercially available MIDI file data. So KORG have started using the midi standards from their competitors Roland and Yamaha? :) > >Note: The article says nothing about an internal sequencer or inputs of any >kind, so, I guess, it would be safe to assume that N1/N5 just don't posses any >of those features. There's the reason why the N1/N5 is inexpensive. Is there a disk drive? Not that such a device is expensive, but the N1/N5 would suck if it didn't have one. And, how to use multi-instrument mode on the N1/N5? Since it has no internal sequencer it must have some kind of status window which shows current program parameters?

At 23:30 1998-02-10 -0500, Alan Moore wrote: > >Is it just me or does this bode ill for us Nx64 users? The new N1 & N5 have had improvements, but they also lack some (important) stuff. Like having only 100 prog + 100 combi settings that are changeable, and not having the two extra sound oputputs (3 & 4). Also there is no sequencer (but since the sequencer of the Nx64 is so cumbersome to use, that might not be too bad after all :) ). > >I even wrote Korg USA about my gripes (I was very curteous about it), but my > >letter was promptly and expediently ignored. Larger companies tend not to give a shit when somebody is complaining. That's too bad... > >First of all, I hope that this upgrade business that some people are > >mentioning is not a fantasy but a real possibility. More fx would be nice I'm afraid they're just fantasies. Ok, it's not impossible to switch ROM chips (or atleast it shoudln't be), but adding more fx processors is more or less a dream only. The fx processors are DSP's (Digital Signal Processor), which are hardware circuits, so it would be necessary to put some kind of extension chip/board directly into the Nx64. Even if that were possible, the operating system (and all the other circuits for that matter) doesn't handle more than two processors, so everything would need to be expanded/modified. I doubt it if KORG would embark on such a project... If the Nx64 had slots for expansion boards inside (which it doesn't), and it was prepared for more fx processors, then it wouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately the Nx64 isn't expandable in any way at all. This was one of the things that made me hesitate when I bought my N364, but since it sounds so great I bought it anyway. > >What is this "color" parameter? I > >have cranked it before and I don't hear but minute difference in the sound. > >What does Korg have against resonance? Maybe my analog synth has me spoiled, > >but even my old Kawai K4 had some rockin filters on it. To be honest, I don't have a clue what "color" really does. I've been cranking it around a lot, but I can't hear any difference. I'll do a deep dive into the Reference Guide later, to see if there's some hidden info on how to use it. I agree that the cut-off filter isn't by far good enough. Resonant filters would make a great addition.... > >The other bone I have to pick is this arpeggiator. Useless. More or less, yes. > >Well the one redeeming thing about this 'board is that she sounds AWESOME. I > >can't argue with that. Neither can I. Especially after modifying some of the programs in bank A. > >Anyone got a good violin patch, though? the GM patch sounds like a dx21 > >played through a blown speaker. Hehe. Good description. Well, I don't think I've ever heard a good violin patch on any synth/keyboard/workstation. A single violin is very hard to immitate, and using a sample isn't by far good enough. Physical modelling techniques might do a good job, but the Nx64 isn't a virtual-analog synthesizer. :) > >I have a bad feeling though, that the trinity, z1, and n5 are going to send > >our beautiful little Nx64s off to pasture. The Trinity is getting old, and only has 32 voice polyphony. Also still expensive. The Z1 is in a totally different category. The N1/N5 are a "threat" though, especially since they seems to be cheap.

I've tried cranking the filter "color" setting (prog edit page 3A & 3C as far right as possible) on several programs with cut-off, but I just can't hear ANY difference in the sound. When reading the Reference Guide, it says that color adds character to a sound by boosting the levels near the cut-off filter edge. I.e. some kind of resonance. Ok, I got to admit that somtimes I can hear something when I put Int=99. Some notes will produce a barely hearable extremely high-pitched (my guess is that it's close to 17 or 18 kHz) noise when using Int=99. I'm pretty sure this isn't what "color" is supposed to do.... Does anybody else have the same problem? If so, let me know, and I'll contact KORG support and ask them.

Hi, I would prefer to see just N2/364 users responding to this list because the specificity is directly applicable to the instrument I have. That may seem a bit selfish but a N264/364 users list was what I thought I was joining. I think if I had another synth, I'd try to find something more specific because the majority of people here will be speaking from the N264/364 perspective. It really is nice to be able to have someone say something like, "...press edit, then up twice, right once, yes.etc., etc.,..." and that specific stuff more often than not will be directly related to either 264 or 364 users. Tom

Hi, Well, I finally got a project done on the sequencer and it turned out pretty well despite the sequencer's shortcomings. One question really perplexes me though. I went to the keyboard today and went into the sequencer. I then selected the song number under which the project had been sequenced and played it. In about the 5th measure, the sustain pedal locked in the on position and I stopped the sequence. I hit the reset button and began song again. Same thing...really strange. So, I went to the next obvious "diagnostic" step and turned the machine off & then on again. Then I repeated EXACTLY what I had done the first time and the sequence played just fine. I am beginning to think with that kind of reliability who needs enemies. Has anyone seen any similars lurking in the sequencer? I guess I'll be working from a computer screen in the near future but I prefer real time right at the keyboard... :-( Tom

At 12:05 1998-02-12 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: > >I would prefer to see just N2/364 users responding to this list because > >the specificity is directly applicable to the instrument I have. That > >may seem a bit selfish but a N264/364 users list was what I thought I > >was joining. I think if I had another synth, I'd try to find something > >more specific because the majority of people here will be speaking from > >the N264/364 perspective. It really is nice to be able to have someone > >say something like, "...press edit, then up twice, right once, yes.etc., > >etc.,..." and that specific stuff more often than not will be directly > >related to either 264 or 364 users. Well, since none of the current members on this list seem to have something else than an Nx64 (based upon the fact that none of them have written anything about this matter), it's more or less settled. Though I still think we should keep it open. I want to hear news about new N-series products. Let's not create a chinese wall.

NS5R users, speak up! Do you want to have the NS5R included in this mailing list?

Ken, No wall at all. As a matter of fact, after thinking a bit after sending the last, I pretty much came to the conclusion that those non N_64 documents can either be retained or erased depending on the reader's needs. It really doesn't matter to me anyway; I'm happy to have any forum at all. Couldn't do this stuff not too long ago. Computers have come a long way! Tom

Hello N info seeker, Can any body explain to me a bit abt the .sng file. I mean what is the difference between a .mid file and .sng file ? I mean can save a song to a disk as mid file or sng file.. Hasnat

In a message dated 98-02-12 15:08:09 EST, you write: << Hi, I would prefer to see just N2/364 users responding to this list because the specificity is directly applicable to the instrument I have. That may seem a bit selfish but a N264/364 users list was what I thought I was joining. I think if I had another synth, I'd try to find something more specific because the majority of people here will be speaking from the N264/364 perspective. It really is nice to be able to have someone say something like, "...press edit, then up twice, right once, yes.etc., etc.,..." and that specific stuff more often than not will be directly related to either 264 or 364 users. Tom >> again, i agree!

At 13:26 12/02/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Has anyone seen any similars lurking in the sequencer? I guess I'll be > >working from a computer screen in the near future but I prefer real time > >right at the keyboard... :-( > > > >Tom Ive had a few problems myself with the n's sequencer. For some freak reason or another it loves to lock up on me so that i cant change channels or paremeters. This usually happens when Im adjusting the c/d send's, and it happens very frequently. I have to turn it off and then back on to reset everything. Ive talked with other people who've had this same problem aswell and it turns out that the first batch of n364's that shipped to north america had a defective chip in them(at least thats what Ive been told). I believe Korg will replace it for free but ive yet to contact them. Think I might soon tho as my warenty expires in september:) regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

Steve You wrote, > > Ive had a few problems myself with the n's sequencer. For some freak > > reason or another it loves to lock up on me so that i cant change > > channels or paremeters. This usually happens when Im adjusting the c/d > > send's, and it happens very frequently. I have to turn it off and then > > back on to reset everything. Ive talked with other people who've had > > this same problem as well and it turns out that the first batch of > > n364's that shipped to north america had a defective chip in them(at > > least thats what Ive been told). I believe Korg will replace it for > > free but ive yet to contact them. Think I might soon tho as my warenty > > expires in september:) > > Steve Wallis > > *@*.net Hey Steve, I have a 264 but think that this unit may also have the chip problem you describe. I have a 30 day money back return policy which runs out in a couple of days but have pretty much decided to keep the 264. Do you happen to know if 264s are said by Korg to have been shipped also with defective chips? How does one tell if theirs is defective? Can one tell by serial numbers or manufacture date? I appreciate your taking the time to answer my note and I'll be looking for more info on the chip stuff. Hey Kenneth, do you know anything about the defective chip...? I just can't bring myself to return this thing for a refund. There really are a bunch of awesome sounds for a rather low price. I just hope it can be used reliably. I dread trying to use the sequencer in a critical moment and have it lock up on me! I know, I know, use a computer... : ) The sequence I just finished is for a wedding and uses lots of horns, strings, various keyboards, percussion, etc., etc. I think 14 of the 16 tracks have been used and I just can't imagine after all the work having the stupid thing lock up on me. Do you think I should I just tape the sequence rather than directly doing the sequence at the wedding? Thanks for all the input guys and if I get too long winded, please tell me. Tom

I've had my n364 for a couple of months -- chose it due to great price/sound ratio. Definitely the most confusing board i've ever used. The sequencer is virtually unusable (userfiendly). I just got an AVM apex card (bundled with cakewalk) and was having some problems getting n364 to perform correctly. I called AVM and their tech rep was a great help, but the most important thing to my getting the setup to work well was the instrument definitions i downloaded from the ftp sight. I've been sitting on the sidelines reading all the messages being sent via the n-list I just wanted to take the time to say thank you to all of you who know what your doing from all of us (me) who don't. whatever happens with future korg products we need to keep the integrity of this list and it's information. peace, jeff

I would definitely agree with Jeff. I have been silent on the list, as I'm not a synth user (predominantly a guitarist), and really not knowledgeable on how to use the N364 yet. This list has been incredibly valuable to me in gaining some of that knowledge. Thank you to all for your questions, answers, and insights. Thanks again, Todd Ridner *@*.com on 02/13/98 04:17:00 PM To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.*@* cc: (bcc: Todd Ridner/NCS/Dana) Subject: n-list is great I've had my n364 for a couple of months -- chose it due to great price/sound ratio. Definitely the most confusing board i've ever used. The sequencer is virtually unusable (userfiendly). I just got an AVM apex card (bundled with cakewalk) and was having some problems getting n364 to perform correctly. I called AVM and their tech rep was a great help, but the most important thing to my getting the setup to work well was the instrument definitions i downloaded from the ftp sight. I've been sitting on the sidelines reading all the messages being sent via the n-list I just wanted to take the time to say thank you to all of you who know what your doing from all of us (me) who don't. whatever happens with future korg products we need to keep the integrity of this list and it's information. peace, jeff

Hi, I enjoy reading the Nx64 mail but I'm just getting too far behind and am unable to continue reading it. At least for now, please take me off the mail list. Thanks, Greg Menken

At 15:43 13/02/98 EST, you wrote: > >I've had my n364 for a couple of months -- chose it due to great price/sound > >ratio. Definitely the most confusing board i've ever used. The sequencer is > >virtually unusable (userfiendly). I thought the same thing at first until I started getting into it. Now I use the N364 for all my sequencing. The pattern recording feature's is phenominal-its makes sequencing a breeze. I find the sequencer to be extremely user friendly-even more so than cakewalk. The only thing I wish Korg would incorparate into it is true time stretching. I think time stecthing and a GUI are the only things cakewalk have over the n's sequencer(aside from audio of coarse).

Steve Wallis wrote: > > Now I use the N364 for all my sequencing. The pattern recording > > feature's is phenominal-its makes sequencing a breeze. I find the > > sequencer to be extremely user friendly-even more so than cakewalk. Hey Steve, I too am getting better at the sequencer but still have not received any solid input into a problem experienced. Long story short, I did a sequence, played it the following day, and all of a sudden, the damper pedal stuck. I turned the sequencer off and pressed the reset button but the same thing happened a second time. I then turned the synth off completely and restarted it. This time, with no changes made to the sequence, it played just fine. The problem repeated itself today with an entirely different sequence downloaded from the net in MID form which I tweaked a bit and have played many times without problem. One person on the forum suggested that I might have one of the "bad chips" but according to a KORG representative, the bad chip story isn't true. After looking at my situation a bit, he suggested that I take it to an authorized repair station for a checkup to verify that it is working properly. Anyway, I'd like to know if you have had any similar problems and a damper pedal sticking in the middle of a sequence when the same sequence has performed flawlessly on prior occassions? I would hope that you haven't and that this might, in fact, be an internal problem that might diagnose out... Thnx, Tom

At 19:44 1998-02-12 -0800, Hasnat M wrote: > >Can any body explain to me a bit abt the .sng file. I mean what is > >the difference between a .mid file and .sng file ? I mean can save a > >song to a disk as mid file or sng file.. A SNG file is KORGs native file format for saving ALL songs from the internal sequencer to one file. You can't save only one song as a SNG file. An SNG file can contain N-specific data without problems, but a MID file has a general standard for events, which means that any N-specific data must be saved as some kind of meta events. If you want to save a single song from the sequencer, you can save it as a MID file anyway. The N will recognise N-specific meta events and load them. Other (non N-specific) external sequencers might throw those meta events away though. Take a look at near the bottom of page 200 and near the top of page 202 in the Reference Guide, to see the limitations of saving/loading MID files. BUT, those limitations are only valid for MID files not created by the N!! I've saved, cleared, loaded, saved, cleared & loaded the same song in the internal sequencer, and NO data was lost! Conclusion: you can safely save a song from the interal sequencer as a MID file!

At 01:50 1998-02-13 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: > >Hey Kenneth, do you know anything about the defective chip...? No, never heard of it. But perhaps there are some of them around? > >I dread trying to use the sequencer in a > >critical moment and have it lock up on me! I know, I know, use a > >computer... : ) Hehe, don't be surprised if it's actually the computer that fails. :) > >The sequence I just finished is for a wedding and uses lots of horns, > >strings, various keyboards, percussion, etc., etc. I think 14 of the 16 > >tracks have been used and I just can't imagine after all the work having > >the stupid thing lock up on me. Do you think I should I just tape the > >sequence rather than directly doing the sequence at the wedding? I doubt the N would lock up in the middle of everything. It's never happened to me... But, if you want to be absolutely sure, tape it. Though you can never be 100% sure that the tapedeck won't go bezerks either, though chances are perhaps smaller. :) Oh, by the way, perhaps you would like to share that song of yours? You could save it as a MID file and have it sent to Steve Day's public ftp space.

At 02:17 1998-02-14 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: > >After looking at my situation a bit, he suggested that I take it > >to an authorized repair station for a checkup to verify that it is > >working properly. I'd say the same. > >Anyway, I'd like to know if you have had any similar problems and a > >damper pedal sticking in the middle of a sequence when the same sequence > >has performed flawlessly on prior occassions? That's never happened to me. I have MID file that causes a "pedal stick" on one of the tracks in the middle of the song, but it always does that, even if I play it from an external sequencer, so I don't think it's my N364.

I don't know that I've ever had that problem, but when recording with an external, computer based sequencer I will very frequently get stuck or absent notes. I assume this is because note offs and note ons (respectively) are getting lost in the shuffle. I don't know how that relates to your problem, but it might. Now that I think about it, though, did you happen to change track numbers while holding the pedal down? That would lock the pedal, since the pedal off command would get sent on a different channel than the pedal on.

That's pretty much the experience I had with "color"; at 99 you can hear a real high, sharp partial in the sound (tonally sharp, not pitchwise). As to why I would need 99 discreet levels of this, I don't really know. As to why I'd need it at all, that I don't know either. Maybe it's a ploy to make us think that we can make the LPF resonant. It's just a mind game. They're all out to get us. It's a shame that the ROM upgrade is just a fantasy. I'm so disappointed. Aside from the sound quality, this synth really seems like a step down from the 01/W. I had a chance to use one a few years ago, and I thought that if anything Korg would add features to it. Well they added the arpeggiator (i've voiced my opinion on that), and RPPR (let's all say it together--"Whoopty- doo"), but they took away cool stuff like waveshaping and emphasis. I am bummed now. :-( Still, it sounds good. am

Alan Moore wrote: > > > > I don't know that I've ever had that problem, but when recording with an > > external, computer based sequencer I will very frequently get stuck or absent > > notes. I assume this is because note offs and note ons (respectively) are > > getting lost in the shuffle. I don't know how that relates to your problem, > > but it might. > > Now that I think about it, though, did you happen to change track numbers > > while holding the pedal down? That would lock the pedal, since the pedal off > > command would get sent on a different channel than the pedal on. My thought was that since the problem reoccurred after a stop and reset of the sequencer while the problem went away after turning the whole unit on & off, the issue was probably hardware. Your point has been something that I've been pondering however and will probably go into edit view mode to see what's on each track. That is so tedious though! I still can't understand why the problem would occur on two different sequences that have played well in the past and have NOT been edited. That really perplexes me. The Korg rep seems to think that something is going wrong internally vs. anything in the sequence and I was told to take it to a service station. I think I'm going to take a look inside the sequence though to see where the ped on/off commands are given. I feel like I must be overlooking something that simple instead of it being internal. I guess the real bottom line is that computers, no matter if in the Korg or a PC on your desk, can be a real "joy" (pain) from time to time; I guess we just have to make the best of it and go wid da flow... :) Thnx for responding, Tom

Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > Oh, by the way, perhaps you would like to share that song of yours? You > > could save it as a MID file and have it sent to Steve Day's public ftp > space. I have a couple questions about uploading. The sequence I did is an arrangement of an already copywrited Christian Song for a wedding in the Church. Does the site want only original songs or are arrangements desired also? Tom

> > > >I don't know that I've ever had that problem, but when recording with an > >external, computer based sequencer I will very frequently get stuck or absent > >notes. I assume this is because note offs and note ons (respectively) are > >getting lost in the shuffle. Somebody told me you get stuck notes bcos of the type of soundcard you use. If u use a higher end sound card like CardD Plus.... you dont hv these problems.... I use a very basic 16bit sound card, not even a SB16, something that camewith my PackardBell, and do get stuck notes sometimes.... Any comments? Is this true bcos of type of scard? Hasnat

> >At 19:44 1998-02-12 -0800, Hasnat M wrote: > > >> >>Can any body explain to me a bit abt the .sng file. I mean what is >> >>the difference between a .mid file and .sng file ? I mean can save a >> >>song to a disk as mid file or sng file.. > > > >A SNG file is KORGs native file format for saving ALL songs from the > >internal sequencer to one file. You can't save only one song as a SNG file. > > > >An SNG file can contain N-specific data without problems, but a MID file > >has a general standard for events, which means that any N-specific data > >must be saved as some kind of meta events. > > > >If you want to save a single song from the sequencer, you can save it as a > >MID file anyway. The N will recognise N-specific meta events and load them. > >Other (non N-specific) external sequencers might throw those meta events > >away though. > > > >Take a look at near the bottom of page 200 and near the top of page 202 in > >the Reference Guide, to see the limitations of saving/loading MID files. > > > >BUT, those limitations are only valid for MID files not created by the N!! > >I've saved, cleared, loaded, saved, cleared & loaded the same song in the > >internal sequencer, and NO data was lost! > > > >Conclusion: you can safely save a song from the interal sequencer as a MID > >file! Thanx Ken. You probably know the Ref.Manual inside out :) I still hv to do that.....and I'm still far from mastering the N.. which brings me to ask u another question abt the pg 199.. what exactly is the a midi exc.data? I don't know if it has anything to do with this midi exc. datat thing but I am composing something on cakewalk (also partly on N) and save thm on harddrive. When I load the song again on cakewalk, and play it, howcome the effects changes? I mean the Send C/D stuff? How can I save these parameters along with the song, so that when I load it next time, the Send C/D will set automatically? Hasnat

Hi, Fellow n-users My friend has a writable CD rom. He says he can record my songs on CD. Which would be great. I can then give my music to my family and friends. And the sound quality will, I guess, be excellent, compared to the tape recordings. My question: I only have a Korg N364, and no computer program like Cakewalk or whatever. My friend only has a computer with soundblaster. How can we record my stuff on the CD do you think? Put it on the harddisk first? and what kind of wiring will I need? Midi or just the regular audio cables 1 and 2 out? Do we need special software? Who has expierience in this field? Please help us Thanx -toon

At 21:20 1998-02-15 -0800, Hasnat M wrote: > >Somebody told me you get stuck notes bcos of the type of soundcard you > >use. If u use a higher end sound card like CardD Plus.... you dont hv > >these problems.... I use a very basic 16bit sound card, not even a > >SB16, something that camewith my PackardBell, and do get stuck notes > >sometimes.... Any comments? Is this true bcos of type of scard? It's a possible cause. A badly implemented hardware/software MPU401 could cause noteskipping. It could also be bad midi cables, or bad connectors on the soundcard. So far, I haven't encoutered this problem. My N364 has happily played all notes and responded to all sysex/midi-controllers I've sent to it via midi (I've got an SB AWE64 Gold soundcard with software MPU401 emulation). The Yamaha PSR400 I had a while ago would frequently miss out notes though. Since I switched to my N364, this has never happened. And I'm using the same external midi equipment.

At 10:55 1998-02-16 +0100, Toon Theuwis wrote: > >My friend has a writable CD rom. He says he can record my songs on CD. > >Which would be great. I can then give my music to my family and friends. > >And the sound quality will, I guess, be excellent, compared to the tape > >recordings. I've thought about doing this myself. Tape recordings suck, if you don't have a really expensive tapedeck (or a DAT ofcourse). A CD recorder is a lot cheaper. > >My question: I only have a Korg N364, and no computer program like > >Cakewalk or whatever. My friend only has a computer with soundblaster. How > >can we record my stuff on the CD do you think? Put it on the harddisk > >first? and what kind of wiring will I need? Midi or just the regular audio > >cables 1 and 2 out? Do we need special software? > >Who has expierience in this field? First you must sample (audio-record) the sound output of the N. You can use your regular audio cables, but since the Soundblaster often has a 3.5 mm stereo jack for input, you'll also need some kind of cable adaptor that "converts" your audio cables to a single 3.5 mm stereo plug. Should be quite easy to find one. After plugging the cables, you need a program that can sample directly to the harddisk (sampling directly into RAM isn't an option if you have less than 64MB plus, and the song is long). Since your friend has a Soundblaster (SB16?) I'm sure that Creative Lab's Wave Studio is already installed (it comes with the soundcard). Use it to sample, and do it in 44.1 kHz 16 bit stereo. Oh, and I ought to let you know that Soundblaster cards are not ideal for sampling good quality audio. The analog-to-digital converters aren't very good (not in my SB AWE64 Gold either). Often they're VERY noisy. There are several cards who are dedicated to sample and play audio at great quality, but they aren't cheap. It all depends on how important it is for you to have good quality audio. When done recording, you should have quite a large sample (about 10 MB per minute of audio). In order to burn it onto a CD, you'll need a program that can do this. Since I've never even seen anybody do this, I don't have a clue what programs you can use. Perhaps somebody else on this list knows?

At 18:08 1998-02-15 -0500, Alan Moore wrote: > >Maybe it's a ploy to make us think that we can make the LPF resonant. It's > >just a mind game. They're all out to get us. Yet another conspiration theory. :) To me it seems like KORG didn't know how to do add real DSP resonant filter algorithms to the Nx64, so they added their super-beta crap algorithm instead, and named it "color". Hehe. > >It's a shame that the ROM upgrade is just a fantasy. The ROM upgrade doesn't need to be a fantasy, since the only thing needed is a switch of chips. Adding more hardware circuits (like additional DPS's for fx processing) is a dream though. Unless you're a vicious hardware banger who likes to waste a lot of time, and are a soldering master. :)

At 20:08 1998-02-15 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: > >I still can't understand why the problem would occur on two different > >sequences that have played well in the past and have NOT been edited. > >That really perplexes me. The Korg rep seems to think that something is > >going wrong internally vs. anything in the sequence and I was told to > >take it to a service station. I think I'm going to take a look inside > >the sequence though to see where the ped on/off commands are given. I > >feel like I must be overlooking something that simple instead of it > >being internal. I have an idea. Send the whole song (save it as an SMF format 1 from page 5B in the disk menu) as a mail attachment directly to me (*@*.tninet.se), and I'll check it out, both in Cubase and in the internal sequencer.

At 20:44 1998-02-15 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: >> >> Oh, by the way, perhaps you would like to share that song of yours? You >> >> could save it as a MID file and have it sent to Steve Day's public ftp > space. > > > >I have a couple questions about uploading. The sequence I did is an > >arrangement of an already copywrited Christian Song for a wedding in the > >Church. Does the site want only original songs or are arrangements > >desired also? I'm sure Steve Day won't mind if you send your arrangement. There aren't very many songs there, so any contribution is welcome. Steve decides.

At 21:39 1998-02-15 -0800, Hasnat M wrote: > >Thanx Ken. You probably know the Ref.Manual inside out :) Well, actually no, but thanks. :) > >to do that.....and I'm still far from mastering the N.. which brings me > >to ask u another question abt the pg 199.. what exactly is the a midi > >exc.data? You can use your Nx64 as a sysex data filer. If you enter page 4B in the disk menu, you'll see a flashing "Awaiting data". You can now connect an external midi device (such as a drum machine) and send sysex data to the Nx64 (e.g. patch data). The Nx64 will store everything it receives in a temporary memory buffer (see the limitations on page 199). Then you can put a disk in the diskdrive of the N, choose a filename (one page to the right) and save the buffer to disk. If you want to send the saved sysex data to the external midi device, put that disk back into the drive, enter page 4A in the disk menu and select the file to send. All in all, if you have a computer, get a sysex filer instead. > >When I load the song again on cakewalk, and play it, > >howcome the effects changes? I mean the Send C/D stuff? How can I save > >these parameters along with the song, so that when I load it next time, > >the Send C/D will set automatically? Send C/D can be set by using two midi controllers (not sysex). Controller number 91 is for fx processor 1 (send C), and controller number 93 is for fx processor 2 (send D). Example: If you want to set a track in the Nx64 to Send C=4 and Send D=8, you must create two midi controller messages in the corresponding track in Cakewalk (I don't know how to do this in Cakewalk, but its manual should explain). Set the first message to controller 91 with value 54 (sets Send C to 4) and the second message to controller 93 with value 108 (sets Send D to 8). Take a look at the middle of page 126 to see which values you must use to set Send C/D to a value ranging from 0 to 9. I don't know how to set them to PRG though. Can anybody fill me in on that? I'll send you a MID file that uses these controllers (yes, standard MID files can set Send C and Send D).

On Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 10:55:52AM +0100, Toon Theuwis wrote: > > Hi, Fellow n-users > > > > My friend has a writable CD rom. He says he can record my songs on CD. > > Which would be great. I can then give my music to my family and friends. > > And the sound quality will, I guess, be excellent, compared to the tape > > recordings. > > > > My question: I only have a Korg N364, and no computer program like > > Cakewalk or whatever. My friend only has a computer with soundblaster. How > > can we record my stuff on the CD do you think? Put it on the harddisk > > first? and what kind of wiring will I need? Midi or just the regular audio > > cables 1 and 2 out? Do we need special software? > > Who has expierience in this field? The Soundblaster has an audio input (analog) line, so you can hook your N364's first two outputs to that one with the appropriate cable, then use any soundfile recording program to make a huge file of each of your songs at CD quality (44.1khz, 16bit, stereo), then use a CD writer program that understands the same soundfile format. I haven't actually tried this, but it really _should_ work. Sound quality will be better than tape but not absolutely great, because the soundblaster's analog to digital converter will probably pick up some noise from the computer's circuits.

Hey Toon, I've started to look at this a little myself. The N364 doesn't have a RS-232 serial interface that can go direct to a computer. So, the only way that the N364 will be able to talk to the computer will be through a MIDI cable. I haven't tried this, but you could try running a cable from the AUDIO OUT of the N364 to the LINE IN of the Soundblaster. Try playing a song from the Korg, and see if it comes out through the computer speakers. Make sure your friend has the LINE IN channel enabled in the Sound Blaster Mixer configuration. I'm not really sure how much distortion you'll get if it works, but it's something you can try. If you do hear sound from your computer, you could try recording it using Soundblaster's bundled software that came with the card. I would record it as a .WAV file. Then try to use the CD Recording software. Going back to the MIDI cable, you'll need a sequencing program like Cakewalk to really get the job done. If you've been monitoring th! e list, you'll know that several people have tried Cakewalk, while others have looked at Cubase. There's also Protools. I've not tried any of these yet, and am still deciding what's the best route to go. If you really want to do this right, the solution might be something like a Darla or Layla card by Event1. Take a look at their website: www.event1.com. Their card is a PCI card that goes in your system - Plug and Play (supposedly), and has Audio Outs and Ins to allow you to do digital recording. I'm assuming you can even record analog devices like guitars, vocals, etc. with it. They give you some pretty decent software, and the capability of using Cakewalk as well. Let me know your outcome, as I'm looking at getting this done as well. Thanks, Todd Toon.*@*.AC.BE on 02/16/98 05:09:00 AM To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.*@* cc: (bcc: Todd Ridner/NCS/Dana) Subject: recording on CD Hi, Fellow n-users My friend has a writable CD rom. He says he can record my songs on CD. Which would be great. I can then give my music to my family and friends. And the sound quality will, I guess, be excellent, compared to the tape recordings. My question: I only have a Korg N364, and no computer program like Cakewalk or whatever. My friend only has a computer with soundblaster. How can we record my stuff on the CD do you think? Put it on the harddisk first? and what kind of wiring will I need? Midi or just the regular audio cables 1 and 2 out? Do we need special software? Who has expierience in this field? Please help us Thanx -toon

How do I select which effects to use in sequencer mode, by sending sysex to my N364 from an external sequencer? Page 222 in the Reference Guide doesn't help.

At 10:55 16-2-98 +0100, you wrote: > >Hi, Fellow n-users > > > >My friend has a writable CD rom. He says he can record my songs on CD. > >Which would be great. I can then give my music to my family and friends. > >And the sound quality will, I guess, be excellent, compared to the tape > >recordings. > > > >My question: I only have a Korg N364, and no computer program like > >Cakewalk or whatever. My friend only has a computer with soundblaster. How > >can we record my stuff on the CD do you think? Put it on the harddisk > >first? and what kind of wiring will I need? Midi or just the regular audio > >cables 1 and 2 out? Do we need special software? > >Who has expierience in this field? > > > > > >Please help us > > > >Thanx > > > >-toon > > This is what you have to do: - Connect the outputs 1&2 from the synthesizer to the line-in of the soundblaster. - Try to find a program that can make .wav files sampled from the line-in. (probably on the SB disks (?) ) There are also more professional programs available, for example Soundforge 4.0 (with that program you can edit the wave files and add effects) - Sample with 44.1 Khz, 16 bit, Stereo on your harddisk. (A large .wav file is created) - Put the wave files on the cd-rom with a CD-write program that can use .wav files to create audio tracks on the CD. I hope that the quality of the AD convertors of the soundblaster will be satisfying, there will probably be some quality loss (noise eg). Greetz, Fedde Bouwman

At 13:19 16-2-98 +0100, you wrote: > >When done recording, you should have quite a large sample (about 10 MB per > >minute of audio). In order to burn it onto a CD, you'll need a program that > >can do this. Since I've never even seen anybody do this, I don't have a > >clue what programs you can use. Perhaps somebody else on this list knows? You can use Adaptec Easy CD creator Pro, which has Spin Doctor. Spin Doctor can sample from any audio source in your system, filter noise, clicks etc. It has a loudness balancer and you can record it to a cd. I use it, and it works quite well. Hero

Is it possible somehow to Change Progams/Banks in a track in the middle of a song using the N sequencer or Cakewalk? I need to use atleast 20 instuments in a song and there is not enough channels/track to assign each. I was thinking may be I could use tracks that aren't used thru out the whole song...or something... Hasnat

hi: you can easily use "event-list" and choose "bank/patch" change" in Cakewalk. bye, Norman Johansyah -----Original Message----- From: Hasnat M <*@*.COM> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 11:40 AM Subject: Program Changing > >Is it possible somehow to Change Progams/Banks in a track in the middle > >of a song using the N sequencer or Cakewalk? I need to use atleast 20 > >instuments in a song and there is not enough channels/track to assign > >each. I was thinking may be I could use tracks that aren't used thru > >out the whole song...or something... > > > >Hasnat > > > >

Todd, I'll tell you how it went as soon as we've tried it. Although the plan is to try it this summer, which is still a while from now. We both have a lot of work that has te be done first. Thanks for the help -Toon

hello, i dont know much about midi and stuff but i have a demo of cakewalk and i was wondering how i can use the n264 sounds with it. i got a crappy sound card (old ass pro audio spectrum: it sounds like blips and bleeps and ticks). would i be able to play sequences off cakewalk into the n264 so that the sound comes out of the output on the n264? or otherwise, how does it all work together? remember, i dont know much. help me if you can. thanx, kaliss

Hey All, Does anybody have the Korg Drums RPPR disk that they could upload to ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ ??? John (John.*@*.com)

John, I've got what you're looking for but am going out for a while and can't do now. I've been to the site you specify and what you are asking for IS there. I think the file is called N......something. Your RPPR files are contained in that file. Send back to tell me if you get them. If you don't, I'll send.. Tom

At 06:08 17-2-98 -0800, you wrote: > >hello, > >i dont know much about midi and stuff but i have a demo of cakewalk > >and i was wondering how i can use the n264 sounds with it. i got a > >crappy sound card (old ass pro audio spectrum: it sounds like blips > >and bleeps and ticks). would i be able to play sequences off cakewalk > >into the n264 so that the sound comes out of the output on the n264? Hey, what's wrong with the good ol' PAS? I got a PAS16 and I've sworn with it. It's one of the few cards with a real MPU interface on board.. :) Hero

hi everybody! first of all i want to tell you, as many said before, that this list is very good and usefull especially for people who are just starting, like me! Its a very nice work all of you who know a little bit more are doing. now lets go to business! after a long time of use of headphones, i decided its time to have a better quality sound. Now i dont now what kind of speakers should i buy. Shall i buy one amplified speaker (lets say one like marshall or peavey,for example), two small amplified speakers, or two acoustic speakers? I think the last option is the best, because i will have a good quality stereo sound. But in this case, what else do i have to buy: a amplifier (like pioneer, for example)? a receiver(idem)? a mixer? a soundsystem (with a receiver, cd and tape and two acoustic speakers)? a friend told me i have to buy a pre-amplifier and a amplifier, or a servo-amplifier (like samson). is it true? what kind of speaker system do you use? I saw two acoustic amplified speakers from sony (they only have the volume control) for about U$400. anyone heard about them? another question: my parents are traveling to spain and holland. I guess prices in these countriese are lower than here in recife, brazil (for exapmle, a n264 was costing U$2800 here, and a marshall amplified speaker about US$800). anyone has idea of prices on differents countries? well, i think that's it. thank you in advance for any help, beny

gollee jee.. i didnt know that ---Hero Idema <*@*.NET> wrote: > > > > At 06:08 17-2-98 -0800, you wrote: >> > >hello, >> > >i dont know much about midi and stuff but i have a demo of cakewalk >> > >and i was wondering how i can use the n264 sounds with it. i got a >> > >crappy sound card (old ass pro audio spectrum: it sounds like blips >> > >and bleeps and ticks). would i be able to play sequences off cakewalk >> > >into the n264 so that the sound comes out of the output on the n264? > > > > Hey, what's wrong with the good ol' PAS? I got a PAS16 and I've sworn with > > it. It's one of the few cards with a real MPU interface on board.. :) > > > > Hero > > > > _____________________ > > Hero Idema > > *@*.net > > http://www.imagica.net > > telnet://imagica.net:4000 > > _____________________ > >

On Tue, Feb 17, 1998 at 09:21:13PM +0100, Hero Idema wrote: > > At 06:08 17-2-98 -0800, you wrote: >> > >hello, >> > >i dont know much about midi and stuff but i have a demo of cakewalk >> > >and i was wondering how i can use the n264 sounds with it. i got a >> > >crappy sound card (old ass pro audio spectrum: it sounds like blips >> > >and bleeps and ticks). would i be able to play sequences off cakewalk >> > >into the n264 so that the sound comes out of the output on the n264? > > > > Hey, what's wrong with the good ol' PAS? I got a PAS16 and I've sworn with > > it. It's one of the few cards with a real MPU interface on board.. :) well, if it does FM synthesis, you probably want to use it as a MIDI card and a sampler, but not as a synth of its own. same goes for soundblasters like mine.... which is just fine, considering you have a real synth hooked to it. I'm going to be installing a sequencer soon, and I hear popular sequencers let you work with MIDI _and_ samples, nowadays, doing the samples thru the soundcard itself. Does this work well in practice? If I want to do it, I'll have to figure out a way to mix the output of the N and the audio output of the card... right now they're on different inputs of an ordinary stereo amplifier. about things being cheaper in spain or holland than in brasil: I bought my N in andorra, of all places (that's the tiny 20-mile wide country stuck in the mountains between spain and france), and it's about the cheapest place in all western europe. spain isn't too expensive, probably a lot cheaper than the netherlands.

Alon Lederman wrote: > > > > hi everybody! > > > > first of all i want to tell you, as many said before, that this list is > > very good and usefull especially for people who are just starting, like me! > > Its a very nice work all of you who know a little bit more are doing. > > now lets go to business! > > after a long time of use of headphones, i decided its time to have a better > > quality sound. Now i dont now what kind of speakers should i buy. Shall i > > buy one amplified speaker (lets say one like marshall or peavey,for > > example), two small amplified speakers, or two acoustic speakers? > > I think the last option is the best, because i will have a good quality > > stereo sound. But in this case, what else do i have to buy: a amplifier > > (like pioneer, for example)? a receiver(idem)? a mixer? a soundsystem (with > > a receiver, cd and tape and two acoustic speakers)? a friend told me i have > > to buy a pre-amplifier and a amplifier, or a servo-amplifier (like samson). > > is it true? what kind of speaker system do you use? I saw two acoustic > > amplified speakers from sony (they only have the volume control) for about > > U$400. anyone heard about them? > > another question: my parents are traveling to spain and holland. I guess > > prices in these countriese are lower than here in recife, brazil (for > > exapmle, a n264 was costing U$2800 here, and a marshall amplified speaker > > about US$800). anyone has idea of prices on differents countries? > > well, i think that's it. thank you in advance for any help, > > beny Hey Beny, Can't really tell you 'bout prices too much except in the US at a place called Guitar Center a 264 is going for around $1350 US dollars. As far as speakers go, I am new to the electric gear stuff and come from playing an acoustic piano but I bought two JBL reference monitors and they will literally blow your windows out if you crank the N. Though I am currently not using a mixing board, we do intend to go that direction soon. The speakers are bi-amplified with no volume control so the volume has to be controlled at the ketboard. I have to turn it way down to be able to stand it! The speakers are JBL 6208 reference monitors. I can tell you that they will handle a whole lot of volume without distortion. They are a bit pricy though at somewhere around $700 US for two when I bought them about a year ago. They must be lower now I would think. Hope this might help a bit... Tom

Alon, (sorry, I think I called you Beny last time, oh well...) I forgot to say something in my last response. My experimentation seems to show that using two speakers vs one speaker in mono mode works MUCH better for fullness of sound. Fidelity I think it's called. One speaker just doesn't get it at all!!!! I'm not sure why this is but maybe it has something to do with stereo programs vs mono programs or somethin' like that. I'm talkin' above my head and am new too. Anyway, with the combis and programs native to the N_64s, my experience has been that two is MUCH BETTER than one. Good luck, Tom

> > I've got what you're looking for but am going out for a while and can't > > do now. I've been to the site you specify and what you are asking for > > IS there. I think the file is called N......something. Your RPPR files > > are contained in that file. Send back to tell me if you get them. If > > you don't, I'll send.. > > > > Tom Hi Tom, The file you're thinking about is N-DISKS.ZIP. I put that file together a while ago. It contains the following disks from Korg: 1) Power Disk 2) Killer Organs 3) Sound Alternatives 4) House and Funk 5) Pop Performances 6) n364 (factory preset disk) The only disk with RPPR patterns on it is the n364 disk which came with my Keyboard. Apparently, rumor has it that there is another disk out there (although I've never seen it). A disk that is loaded with Drum RPPR Pattern Sets. It's supposed to be really cool. I'd love to get a copy of it. Do you have this disk? If so, how do you like it and could you post it? John (John.*@*.com)

I know this question is placed in the wrong mailing list, but I'll ask anyway: I've got a 2x25W amplifier which I drive my two 8-ohm 250W speakers with. When cranking the volume up it sure gets nice & loud, but I get distortion in the bass (12" bass cones). Is this because my amp is weak? Will a 2x50W or 2x100W amp produce less distortion?

At 18:06 1998-02-17 -0300, Alon Lederman wrote: > >after a long time of use of headphones, i decided its time to have a better > >quality sound. Good idea. Not only because of better sound quality, but also to avoid tinnitus (continuous ringing in your ears). > >Now i dont now what kind of speakers should i buy. Shall i > >buy one amplified speaker (lets say one like marshall or peavey,for > >example), two small amplified speakers, or two acoustic speakers? > >I think the last option is the best, because i will have a good quality > >stereo sound. But in this case, what else do i have to buy: a amplifier > >(like pioneer, for example)? a receiver(idem)? a mixer? a soundsystem (with > >a receiver, cd and tape and two acoustic speakers)? a friend told me i have > >to buy a pre-amplifier and a amplifier, or a servo-amplifier (like samson). > >is it true? Go for two separate speakers if you want a good stereo image. If you've got the money, buy a fat amp + a pre-amp (the main amp might need a pre-amp to get a high enough input signal) and good quality speakers. And if you want to be able to play more than one instrument at a time, also a mixer (like something from the Mackie VLZ series). To use your equipment as a "home stereo" also, you could connect your CD/receiver/tapedeck to the mixer. If you haven't got the money, buy a standard "home stereo" amp with CD/receiver/tapedeck/etc inputs and inexpensive speakers. Also buy a small mixer if you want more than one instrument playing at once. My cheap setup looks like this: - Weak & cheap Pioneer amp (2x25W) with CD/receiver/tapedeck/etc inputs - 2 JWS Genexxa large three-way speakers with 12" bass (250W max) - Cheap Bespeco M4-S mixer with 4 stereo inputs and simple level controls The amp is too weak, but I get massive sound out of my system anyway. I like it massive and loud. > >anyone has idea of prices on differents countries? I can give you a good tip: don't buy anything in Sweden. Everything is expensive here. :)

At 23:53 1998-02-17 +0100, Roger Espel Llima wrote: > >I'm going to be installing a sequencer soon, and I hear popular > >sequencers let you work with MIDI _and_ samples, nowadays, doing the > >samples thru the soundcard itself. Does this work well in practice? If > >I want to do it, I'll have to figure out a way to mix the output of the > >N and the audio output of the card... right now they're on different > >inputs of an ordinary stereo amplifier. Sequencers like Emagic's LOGIC, Cakewalk, Cubase and several others allow you to use midi and samples. Sample able sequencers often have the suffix "audio". Just thought I'd say it. I've used both Cubasis Audio and Cubase VST audio, and using samples works just fine. Cubase VST can also add realtime effects to the samples while playing. I solved the mixing problem by simply buying a small stereo mixer. I feed it with my N364 and my soundcard, and send the result to an ordinary stereo amp (on which I use the CD input). To get pass the 2 fx processor limit in my N364, I sample whole "solos" of sounds that have odd fx settings. Then I let Cubase play the sample through my soundcard at the same time as playing the other instruments on the N364 via midi.

At 20:26 18-2-98 +0100, you wrote: > >I know this question is placed in the wrong mailing list, but I'll ask anyway: > > > >I've got a 2x25W amplifier which I drive my two 8-ohm 250W speakers with. > >When cranking the volume up it sure gets nice & loud, but I get distortion > >in the bass (12" bass cones). > > > >Is this because my amp is weak? Will a 2x50W or 2x100W amp produce less > >distortion? It's not very healthy for speakers to use an amplifier with less power than the speakers. The amplifier will clip when the sound is too loud, and destroy the speakers. I think that you should try at least a 2x100 W amp. (not cheap, I am afraid...) Bass creates very high biases ! Greetz, Fedde Bouwman

Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > > > I know this question is placed in the wrong mailing list, but I'll ask anyway: > > > > I've got a 2x25W amplifier which I drive my two 8-ohm 250W speakers with. > > When cranking the volume up it sure gets nice & loud, but I get distortion > > in the bass (12" bass cones). > > > > Is this because my amp is weak? Will a 2x50W or 2x100W amp produce less > > distortion? Kenneth, I'm not a techie but I would guess that as you get more amps in the driving amp, you'll see less and less distortion; that is as long as you don't overdrive the speakers. I think that your optimum condition is when your amp output is close to your speaker capacity. I don't think you want to go past speaker capacity though because you'll blow them or cause clipping when volume gets too high. Tom

I apologize for asking a question which may seem very obvious to most members of this list. I am on the point of buying an n-364; it seems to offer what I want. But I need to know if ALL aspects of the sounds and effects can be altered at will by the user. While playing in the store, for example, I could not find a way to alter or remove tremulo from a sound that interested me. I need an instrument which gives me complete control over the synth sounds and the ability to construst sounds from scratch. Will the n-364 allow me to do this, or should I be looking elsewhere? Thanks for any reply, either to the list or to me at *@*.com Robert

John Schulz wrote: > > 1) Power Disk > > 2) Killer Organs > > 3) Sound Alternatives > > 4) House and Funk > > 5) Pop Performances > > 6) n364 (factory preset disk) > > > > The only disk with RPPR patterns on it is the n364 disk which came with > > my Keyboard. Apparently, rumor has it that there is another disk out > > there (although I've never seen it). A disk that is loaded with Drum > > RPPR Pattern Sets. It's supposed to be really cool. I'd love to get a > > copy of it. Do you have this disk? If so, how do you like it and could > > you post it? John, I think I understand what you are saying now but let me verify what I think I thought you said...??? You already have RPPR.SNG and RPPR.PST is what I thought you said. Now, if that is correct, the other RPPR stuff that you seek is probably in the KORG rebate offer that included $100, headphones, and SIX disks for the N unit. I am waiting for my rebate at this time and expect it in the next 4 to 6 weeks. The offer was only for US purchasers and I'm not sure why. I'm sure that someone out there has those disks and can share them??? If not, I'll get them to you when I get mine. Then I'll probably get sued by someone...Ha! Oh yes, the litigious US of A. Tom

Ken, There are a number of issues involved in amplifiers and speakers. The power of the amplifier, the total harmonic distortion (THD) of the amplifier, the output impedence (ohms) of the amplifier, the power requirements of the speakers, the phase of the speakers, the input impedence of the speakers and so on. To give you an answer in simple terms, yes you do need a larger amplifier. Most people don't realize it but it only takes about 1 to 2 watts of RMS power to play music at a normal listening level. The peak requirements may be as much as 10 to 20 times higher than that. The peaks produce sounds you may not even hear but the amplifier has to be able to put them out. Amplifier components have what is called a linear operating range. That is the range that gives a straight line output for the voltage input. If you drive the component too hard, the straight line output starts to flatten out and cause what is called clipping. Anything beyond is just dropped. In a small amplifier, like 25 watts, it doesn't take much to start causing clipping. If you crank it up, meaning it's required to put out about 5 watts RMS, the peak output requirements on those big bass notes can get as high as 25 to 35 watts or more and that's what causes the distortion. Too many of these peaks can cause the output transistors to heat up and possibly even go into thermal run-away (the heat causes them to draw more current which, in turn, causes them to get even hotter) and eventually blow the output transistors. The danger in this is caused if the output stages are direct coupled (no capacitor) to the speakers. If the transistor shorts instead of blowing open, the full voltage of the power supply is applied to the speakers and fries the voice coils. With a larger amplifier you don't have to worry as much because, at 5 watts output, it's stages are still running in the linear portions of their curves rather than clipping. So instead of working real hard, like the 25 watt amplifier, they are just loafing along and heat is not an issue. You can still get distortion from a larger amp if it has a poor THD value. Good amps have a THD rating of .01 or less. Crappy amps have a THD rating of .1 or greater. Speakers also have an efficiency rating. The less efficient they are, the more power required to give the same DB level of sound as higher efficiency speakers. Eight ohm speakers should be connected to eight ohm output of the amp for proper matching. Improper impedence matching can also cause distortion. Connecting four ohm speakers to an eight ohm output is really bad because the four ohms doubles the current requirements from the output. For your 250 watt speakers, I wouldn't use anything smaller than 100 watts per channel. I have Bose 901's that are rated at 270 watts. I run them with a 100 watt JVC stereo and you don't turn it up more than about 1/4 of the way if you value your ears. :) Hope this answers a few of your questions. Steve Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > > > I know this question is placed in the wrong mailing list, but I'll ask anyway: > > > > I've got a 2x25W amplifier which I drive my two 8-ohm 250W speakers with. > > When cranking the volume up it sure gets nice & loud, but I get distortion > > in the bass (12" bass cones). > > > > Is this because my amp is weak? Will a 2x50W or 2x100W amp produce less > > distortion?

> > John, > > I think I understand what you are saying now but let me verify what I > > think I thought you said...??? You already have RPPR.SNG and RPPR.PST > > is what I thought you said. > > > > Now, if that is correct, the other RPPR stuff that you seek is probably > > in the KORG rebate offer that included $100, headphones, and SIX disks > > for the N unit. I am waiting for my rebate at this time and expect it > > in the next 4 to 6 weeks. The offer was only for US purchasers and I'm > > not sure why. > > > > I'm sure that someone out there has those disks and can share them??? > > > > If not, I'll get them to you when I get mine. Then I'll probably get > > sued by someone...Ha! Oh yes, the litigious US of A. > > > > Tom Tom, Yep. That's it exactly. You got it absolutely right! Give yourself a gold star. I don't know why I'm having so much trouble finding this disk but I sure would be grateful... John (John.*@*.com)

Robert Neville wrote: > > > > I apologize for asking a question which may seem very obvious to most > > members of this list. I am on the point of buying an n-364; it seems to > > offer what I want. But I need to know if ALL aspects of the sounds and > > effects can be altered at will by the user. While playing in the store, > > for example, I could not find a way to alter or remove tremulo from a sound > > that interested me. I need an instrument which gives me complete control > > over the synth sounds and the ability to construst sounds from scratch. > > > > Will the n-364 allow me to do this, or should I be looking elsewhere? > > > > Thanks for any reply, either to the list or to me at > > > > *@*.com > > > > Robert I think that the answer to your question is yes and no respectively. I believe that you can alter sounds like removing tremelo for instance as well as a plethora of other tweaking. As far as creating sounds from scratch, I think you may want a sampler which the N364 is not. Sounds "created" on the N, as I understand it and I too am somewhat of a newbie, must be created from the native soundset already present in the N. There is a wide latitude of choice in that soundset however it it may fill your need. If a sampler is what you seek, you are probably going to pay some more money than the N. But, what the heck, with a name like Neville, you should have no problem having a company give you an instrument if you play your cards right... :) You know, "...my brother says that you might be able to help me." Tom

Yes, indeed. Tom speaks the truth. If you have 250W speakers (by the way, is that peak or nominal?), you'll want AT LEAST a 75 W amp, with a recommendation of a 100 or better. The old rule of thumb is that the more wattage the amplifier possesses, the better it will sound at lower listening levels, or the less work the amp will have to do to push the sound out, therefore creating less distortion. *@*.net on 02/18/98 03:51:00 PM To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.*@* cc: (bcc: Todd Ridner/NCS/Dana) Subject: Re: Weak amplifier Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > > > I know this question is placed in the wrong mailing list, but I'll ask anyway: > > > > I've got a 2x25W amplifier which I drive my two 8-ohm 250W speakers with. > > When cranking the volume up it sure gets nice & loud, but I get distortion > > in the bass (12" bass cones). > > > > Is this because my amp is weak? Will a 2x50W or 2x100W amp produce less > > distortion? Kenneth, I'm not a techie but I would guess that as you get more amps in the driving amp, you'll see less and less distortion; that is as long as you don't overdrive the speakers. I think that your optimum condition is when your amp output is close to your speaker capacity. I don't think you want to go past speaker capacity though because you'll blow them or cause clipping when volume gets too high. Tom

John Schulz wrote: > > >> > > John, > > >> > > I think I understand what you are saying now but let me verify what I >> > > think I thought you said...??? You already have RPPR.SNG and RPPR.PST >> > > is what I thought you said. >> > > >> > > Now, if that is correct, the other RPPR stuff that you seek is probably >> > > in the KORG rebate offer that included $100, headphones, and SIX disks >> > > for the N unit. I am waiting for my rebate at this time and expect it >> > > in the next 4 to 6 weeks. The offer was only for US purchasers and I'm >> > > not sure why. >> > > >> > > I'm sure that someone out there has those disks and can share them??? >> > > >> > > If not, I'll get them to you when I get mine. Then I'll probably get >> > > sued by someone...Ha! Oh yes, the litigious US of A. >> > > >> > > Tom > > > > Tom, > > Yep. That's it exactly. You got it absolutely right! Give yourself a gold > > star. I don't know why I'm having so much trouble finding this disk but I > > sure would be grateful... > > > > John > > (John.*@*.com) John, Always did like gold stars but when I was a kid I only got 3. Left deep scars on my mental stability. Guess it's good for those who get 'em all the time but when ya only gets 3, it's not that good. Won a stapler once though for perfect attendance! :) If you don't get the stuff before I get mine, I get it to ya... Tom

I have the RPPR drum patterns. I got my rebate deal a few weeks ago. I have not listened to most of them , but they sound good. I made a zip file and it is about 415 kb, so write me if you would like me sto send it to you. I don't know how to upload to the ftp site. -David

Dave, If you emai lthem to me at *@*.com, I'll put them on the ftp site so everyone can have access to them. Steve David Gross wrote: > > > > I have the RPPR drum patterns. I got my rebate deal a few weeks ago. > > I have not listened to most of them , but they sound good. > > > > I made a zip file and it is about 415 kb, so write me if you would like me > > sto send it to you. I don't know how to upload to the ftp site. > > > > -David

At 17:08 18-2-98 -0600, you wrote: > >I have the RPPR drum patterns. I got my rebate deal a few weeks ago. > >I have not listened to most of them , but they sound good. > > > >I made a zip file and it is about 415 kb, so write me if you would like me > >sto send it to you. I don't know how to upload to the ftp site. if you have win95 or a unix clone or something, open a dos box or shell and type: ftp ftp.ccnet.com enter as username : anonymous enter as password: your e-mailaddress then type: bin then: cd /users/sad001/uploads en type: put zipfile where zipfile is the location of the zip file on your harddrive, this way you can upload it. But if you want, I can do it for you, please mail me the file.. :) Greetings, Hero Idema

I sent the RPPR functions to Steve, and he will make them available to everybody. I have really appreciated this list, and I am happy to finally contribute something. :) -David

Hello everybody. The drum pattern disk is not available via anonymous ftp. A BIG thanks to David for providing them. They are at ftp.ccnet.com in users/sad001/rpprdrum.zip. Everybody have at them. :) Steve

Ok, I spent some time messing around with "color" on a white noise sample to see how it affects the whole spectrum, and I noticed a reasonable amount of high-pass filtering. The manual says it boosts the frequencies around the cutoff point, so maybe color is just a really wimpy resonance with a crazy- wide bandwidth. The thing that gets me is that Korg can come up with stuff like the Wavestation, the prophecy, and the Z1, but they can't incorporate a simple resonant filter into a workstation synth (of course, somehow they mananged to put a killer wah effect in the fx processor). Sheesh; I learned how to do that in college (well, Ok, but only in Csound). I don't understand the mind of the Korgites. Oh, and as for the conspiracy, there's a new TV drama coming out about the whole thing. It's called the "N files". Pretty scary. Among other things, they'll uncover the secret of why Synth fx processors never feature compression, and what the exact difference is between overdrive and distortion. ;-) Alan

Ken, It is always difficult to pinpoint the source of distortion in a system, but more than likely it's your amplifier. Bass takes a lot of power to amplify, so upgrading your amp is probably your best bet. You may want to experiment, though, with the volume on the keyboard. The signal coming out of the keyboard can get pretty hot if it's cranked, and that might be overloading the inputs of your amp. I usually keep mine at about 50%; if I don't, chords can start to get distorted. More than likely, though, since the distortion is primarily in the bass, I would guess it's the amp. Make sure your speakers can handle a bigger amp first, though! Alan

The N series of keyboards are primarily workstations. As I've been complaining since I joined this list, there are a lot of synthesis features that are lacking. Things like tremolo and stuff can be altered, sure; there is some degree of control. But, If you want things like multimode filters, waveshaping, ring mod, matrix modulation, etc, etc, this is not the synth for you. If you just need some meat-and-potatoes type sounds that sound really good, this is probably your best bet in the price range.

Hey Folks, I just downloaded the RPPR Drums disk. Can't wait to try 'em. Thanks to all involved. John (John.*@*.com)

John Schulz wrote: > > > > Hey Folks, > > I just downloaded the RPPR Drums disk. Can't wait to try 'em. Thanks to all > > involved. > > > > John > > (John.*@*.com) I second that!! Hopefully the patterns are as good as I hope they are! The thing that stinks is, we have a gig tonight, tomorrow and Saturday, so I won't even be able to hear the new patterns until Saturday afternoon! This feels like Christmas when I was a kid! I knew I'd get some cool things, but I had to WAIT!!!!! Argh! Since someone else,(John?) will get to try them out before me, could you please tell me if they are good? Thanks again David and Steve!!! Erik ----- Register to win a FREE WEB DESIGN at Wolf Tracks Design! http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Cove/8105/ mailto:*@*.com

Does anybody know if you can use the drum RPPRs in a commercial song? I would assume that they are "royalty free" and may be used in this manner, but I would like to know if I would be sued before I do this!! Thanks! Erik ---- Register for a FREE WEB DESIGN from Wolf Tracks Design! http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Cove/8105 mailto:*@*.com

hi everybody! first thanks for the help with the speakers question. i think i'll buy a simple amplifier. now, sorry to bring it again, but i still cant understand how to use the rppr. lets say that i have all the 10 songs of the internal sequencer occupied by songs i made and i dont want to erase any of them (i know i cant save them on disk, but i want to keep them in the n364). How can i use the rppr this way? is it possible? beny

No

Hello! i'm new to this list, i was wondering if anyone has successfully used the other banks(other than the GM) from the N264/364 with cakewalk. If you have, please help me!! Thank-you VERY much!! Mike Broer

Alon Lederman wrote: > > > > hi everybody! > > first thanks for the help with the speakers question. i think i'll buy a > > simple amplifier. > > now, sorry to bring it again, but i still cant understand how to use the rppr. > > > > lets say that i have all the 10 songs of the internal sequencer occupied by > > songs i made and i dont want to erase any of them (i know i cant save them > > on disk, but i want to keep them in the n364). How can i use the rppr this > > way? is it possible? > > > > beny Alon, My last response of "no" seems a bit abrupt after looking at it so let me try again. Please forgive me. :) If you have ten songs loaded on your N, you won't be able to load the .SNG files that correlate to the .PST files. They, as I understand it (and sometimes I wonder) work as a team and must be there together. I believe that when you "call" (or use if you will) the pattern set, you must also match it with the song for proper operation. Now I may be way off on this because I can't say I thoroughly understand myself but the "song" is not really a song at all; it's just a .sng file that is the other member of the pattern set to be played. Someone help me on this. Am I right? Gosh, that's terreible starting out lookin' like you know what you're talking about and then ending up like that. That's happened a number of times with this instrument but I "think" I'm learnin... Ragrds & shtuph, Tom

> >No Now, that's what I call a short and concise answer. :)

> >The drum pattern disk is not available via anonymous ftp. ^^^ I hope you mean 'now'? Hehe. :)

Mike, I wonder if you have purchased Cakewalk 5 or if you have obtained it from any ftp site on internet. I currently have Cakewalk 1.3 (mmmmm..) and I would like to upgrade it to Cakewalk 5. How much does it costs? Or where can I find it on internet? Regards, Alex. >From *@*.syntegra.net Thu Feb 19 12:07:01 1998 > >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21]) > > by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04504; > > Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:37:06 +0100 (MET) > >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release > > 1.8c) with spool id 0659 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Thu, 19 Feb > > 1998 20:37:06 +0100 > >Received: from MNSi.Net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by mail.rijnhaave.nl > > (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA04439 for <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; > > Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:27:04 +0100 (MET) > >Received: from mnsi.net.mnsi.net (dyn208-28-56-61.lon.mnsi.net [208.28.56.61]) > > by MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id OAA04257 for > > <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:24:10 -0500 > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Priority: 3 > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Message-ID: <199802191924.*@*.Net> > >Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:22:55 -0500 > >Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> > >Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> > >From: Mike Broer <*@*.NET> > >Subject: N264 and Cakewalk 5 > >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > > >Hello! i'm new to this list, i was wondering if anyone has successfully > >used the other banks(other than the GM) from the N264/364 with cakewalk. > >If you have, please help me!! Thank-you VERY much!! > > > >Mike Broer > >

Cakewalk 6.0 exists too ! At 14:14 19-2-98 PST, you wrote: > >Mike, > >I wonder if you have purchased Cakewalk 5 or if you have obtained it >from any ftp site on internet. I currently have Cakewalk 1.3 (mmmmm..) > >and I would like to upgrade it to Cakewalk 5. How much does it costs? Or > >where can I find it on internet? > >Regards, > >Alex. > > > >>From *@*.syntegra.net Thu Feb 19 12:07:01 1998 >> >>Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21]) >> >> by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04504; >> >> Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:37:06 +0100 (MET) >> >>Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP > >release >> >> 1.8c) with spool id 0659 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Thu, > >19 Feb >> >> 1998 20:37:06 +0100 >> >>Received: from MNSi.Net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by > >mail.rijnhaave.nl >> >> (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA04439 for > ><*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; >> >> Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:27:04 +0100 (MET) >> >>Received: from mnsi.net.mnsi.net (dyn208-28-56-61.lon.mnsi.net > >[208.28.56.61]) >> >> by MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id OAA04257 for >> >> <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:24:10 -0500 >> >>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >> >>X-Priority: 3 >> >>X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 >> >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >>Message-ID: <199802191924.*@*.Net> >> >>Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:22:55 -0500 >> >>Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> >> >>Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> >> >>From: Mike Broer <*@*.NET> >> >>Subject: N264 and Cakewalk 5 >> >>To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >> >> >> >>Hello! i'm new to this list, i was wondering if anyone has > >successfully >> >>used the other banks(other than the GM) from the N264/364 with > >cakewalk. >> >>If you have, please help me!! Thank-you VERY much!! >> >> >> >>Mike Broer >> >> > > > > > >

Damn! I've got to learn how to work these fingers correctly. :) Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > >> > >The drum pattern disk is not available via anonymous ftp. > > ^^^ > > > > I hope you mean 'now'? Hehe. :)

and cakewalk 7.0 is comin sooner than you think! ---Fedde Bouwman <f.s.*@*.UTWENTE.NL> wrote: > > > > Cakewalk 6.0 exists too !

Yes, I have successfully used all banks with cakewalk. Simply use bank select messages. If you're using cakewalk for windows, download an instrument definition from the website. Personally, I use cakewalk for DOS (my computer is OLD). You just send a bank select message to choose which bank you want to use (controller 0 and 32--it's in the manual somewhere).

You didn't hear this from me and I don't know who any of you are. I will deny all knowledge of this message if asked. :) I say Cakewalk 6.0 at www.sonic.net/~boom/warez today. It was three disks. Wade through the porno ads and you'll see it listed. Steve Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca wrote: > > > > Mike, > > I wonder if you have purchased Cakewalk 5 or if you have obtained it > > from any ftp site on internet. I currently have Cakewalk 1.3 (mmmmm..) > > and I would like to upgrade it to Cakewalk 5. How much does it costs? Or > > where can I find it on internet? > > Regards, > > Alex. > > > > >From *@*.syntegra.net Thu Feb 19 12:07:01 1998 >> > >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21]) >> > > by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04504; >> > > Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:37:06 +0100 (MET) >> > >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP > > release >> > > 1.8c) with spool id 0659 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Thu, > > 19 Feb >> > > 1998 20:37:06 +0100 >> > >Received: from MNSi.Net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by > > mail.rijnhaave.nl >> > > (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA04439 for > > <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; >> > > Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:27:04 +0100 (MET) >> > >Received: from mnsi.net.mnsi.net (dyn208-28-56-61.lon.mnsi.net > > [208.28.56.61]) >> > > by MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id OAA04257 for >> > > <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:24:10 -0500 >> > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >> > >X-Priority: 3 >> > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 >> > >MIME-Version: 1.0 >> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >Message-ID: <199802191924.*@*.Net> >> > >Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:22:55 -0500 >> > >Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> >> > >Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> >> > >From: Mike Broer <*@*.NET> >> > >Subject: N264 and Cakewalk 5 >> > >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >> > > >> > >Hello! i'm new to this list, i was wondering if anyone has > > successfully >> > >used the other banks(other than the GM) from the N264/364 with > > cakewalk. >> > >If you have, please help me!! Thank-you VERY much!! >> > > >> > >Mike Broer >> > > > >

Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > >> > >No > > > > Now, that's what I call a short and concise answer. :) Kenneth, I do hope you realize that I restated my position... :) Tom

I'm using cakewalk 4, I think; do they have a higher version for DOS? I guess it won't matter. My housemate has cakewalk home studio for windows. It has neat graphical interfaces, but in many ways is less powerful than cakewalk 4 for DOS. Go figure. Of course it does digital audio, too, which my little 286 can't handle. Anyway, back to the N364.... So am I to assume that an upgrade, of say, the arpeggiator functions is not beyond the scope of imagination? can we get Korg to do this?

Alan Moore wrote: > > > > I'm using cakewalk 4, I think; do they have a higher version for DOS? I guess > > it won't matter. My housemate has cakewalk home studio for windows. It has > > neat graphical interfaces, but in many ways is less powerful than cakewalk 4 > > for DOS. Go figure. Of course it does digital audio, too, which my little > > 286 can't handle. > > Anyway, back to the N364.... > > So am I to assume that an upgrade, of say, the arpeggiator functions is not > > beyond the scope of imagination? can we get Korg to do this? Alan, I'm currently working on that song...It's named "Dreamin'" or has that title been used already. Tom :)

what if i don't have the manual?? hah...:) _________________________________________________________ mIcHaEl BrOeR email: *@*.net ---------- > > From: Alan Moore <*@*.COM> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: N264 and Cakewalk 5 > > Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 9:03 PM > > > > Yes, I have successfully used all banks with cakewalk. Simply use bank select > > messages. If you're using cakewalk for windows, download an instrument > > definition from the website. Personally, I use cakewalk for DOS (my computer > > is OLD). You just send a bank select message to choose which bank you want to > > use (controller 0 and 32--it's in the manual somewhere).

I'm trying to download the CW 6 version and just get garbage on the screen Is there a trick to downloading the file. I tried another on the site and had no problem but can't get CW 6. The three disks just above CW 6 are version 5 which I already have... Thnx Tom

Do u have the right instument defntn file for cakewalk for N? If not download the new one they hv fm the FTP site ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001. Goodluck Hasnat > >Hello! i'm new to this list, i was wondering if anyone has successfully > >used the other banks(other than the GM) from the N264/364 with cakewalk. > >If you have, please help me!! Thank-you VERY much!! > > > >Mike Broer > >

> >Mike, > >I wonder if you have purchased Cakewalk 5 or if you have obtained it >from any ftp site on internet. I currently have Cakewalk 1.3 (mmmmm..) > >and I would like to upgrade it to Cakewalk 5. How much does it costs? Or > >where can I find it on internet? > >Regards, > >Alex. U can download only a DEMO version fm cakewalk site... www.cakewalk.com They now have the Cakewalk 6.0 out. If u wannna but it will probably cost u around 400 US.

ALEX- i use cakewalk3and i prefer it to 4- ive never used 5-but hear good things about 6... i would suggest(if you are looking for updated cakewalk)to look for version3 or version6 (besides ive heard bad stuff about 5) -ted-

> >Alon Lederman wrote: >> >> another question: my parents are traveling to spain and holland. I guess >> >> prices in these countriese are lower than here in recife, brazil (for >> >> exapmle, a n264 was costing U$2800 here, and a marshall amplified speaker >> >> about US$800). anyone has idea of prices on differents countries? >> >> well, i think that's it. thank you in advance for any help, >> >> beny > > Hi Beny. I'm Spanish and I bought my N364 seven months ago. Now it's about $1700.

Thanks to the person who uploaded the rppr patern disk. The Jungletek rppr's are amazing:) regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

If you don't mind.....where can you download the disk?? mb-out _________________________________________________________ mIcHaEl BrOeR email: *@*.net ---------- > > From: Steve Wallis <*@*.Net> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: RPPR Patern Disk > > Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 7:44 AM > > > > Thanks to the person who uploaded the rppr patern disk. The Jungletek rppr's > > are amazing:) > > > > regards, > > > > Steve Wallis > > *@*.net

At 13:41 20-2-98 +0100, you wrote: >> >>Alon Lederman wrote: >>> >>> another question: my parents are traveling to spain and holland. I guess >>> >>> prices in these countriese are lower than here in recife, brazil (for >>> >>> exapmle, a n264 was costing U$2800 here, and a marshall amplified speaker >>> >>> about US$800). anyone has idea of prices on differents countries? >>> >>> well, i think that's it. thank you in advance for any help, >>> >>> beny >> >> > > > >Hi Beny. > >I'm Spanish and I bought my N364 seven months ago. Now it's about $1700. Hmmm... I bought my N264 2 months ago, and I paid about $1400 for it. (f 2800,- in dutch guilders) Greetz, Fedde

i got mine about a month ago for $2000.....that's in Canada.....and btw.....i downloaded the .ins file for the n264 from that ftp site, and i got cakewalk to use the names of all the patchs(yay!) but....i still can't actually use the patches...i'm EXTREMELY fustrated.....does anyone know what to do!? if so....THANK-YOU!!! Mike Broer _________________________________________________________ mIcHaEl BrOeR email: *@*.net ---------- > > From: Fedde Bouwman <f.s.*@*.UTWENTE.NL> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: Prices in Spain > > Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 2:14 PM > > > > At 13:41 20-2-98 +0100, you wrote: >>> > >>Alon Lederman wrote: >>>> > >>> another question: my parents are traveling to spain and holland. I guess >>>> > >>> prices in these countriese are lower than here in recife, brazil (for >>>> > >>> exapmle, a n264 was costing U$2800 here, and a marshall amplified speaker >>>> > >>> about US$800). anyone has idea of prices on differents countries? >>>> > >>> well, i think that's it. thank you in advance for any help, >>>> > >>> beny >>> > >> >> > > >> > >Hi Beny. >> > >I'm Spanish and I bought my N364 seven months ago. Now it's about $1700. > > Hmmm... > > > > I bought my N264 2 months ago, and I paid about $1400 for it. > > (f 2800,- in dutch guilders) > > > > Greetz, > > > > Fedde

In a message dated 98-02-20 14:44:48 EST, you write: << got cakewalk to use the names of all the patchs(yay!) but....i still can't actually use the patches...i'm EXTREMELY fustrated.....does anyone know what to do!? if so....THANK-YOU!!! Mike Broer >> mike - what exactly is the problem??? <<<i use my N364 with cakewalk...maybe i can help... -ted-

> >Hello! i'm new to this list, i was wondering if anyone has successfully > >used the other banks(other than the GM) from the N264/364 with cakewalk. > >If you have, please help me!! Thank-you VERY much!! I don't use Cakewalk, but you can find Cakewalk instrument definitions at this address: ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001 The file is "korg-ins.zip" or something like that. Unzip it and use either KorgN364.ins or KorgN264.ins. You can also find some other N-specific stuff at the address above.

At 04:10 1998-02-19 -0500, Alan Moore wrote: > >Ok, I spent some time messing around with "color" on a white noise sample to > >see how it affects the whole spectrum, and I noticed a reasonable amount of > >high-pass filtering. The manual says it boosts the frequencies around the > >cutoff point, so maybe color is just a really wimpy resonance with a crazy- > >wide bandwidth. Hey, you're right, color is actually hearable when testing it with samples that contain some amount of (white) noise. But as you say, it sounds a lot more like a crappy highpass filter than resonance. I doubt that color boosts the frequencies near the filter cut-off. Seems like bullshit.... ? Anyway, it's totally unusable. The amount of color can't be changed in realtime (unless in program mode via sysex perhaps), and new color values won't be recognized until the next note-on message. > >The thing that gets me is that Korg can come up with stuff like the > >Wavestation, the prophecy, and the Z1, but they can't incorporate a simple > >resonant filter into a workstation synth (of course, somehow they mananged to > >put a killer wah effect in the fx processor). It annoys me too. It would have been great fun to have a resonant filter. The killer wah seems to come from tweaking the overdrive effect. One thing I came to think of yesterday is to use the parametric EQ effect as a bandpass/highpass filter, and to use the joystick to control the intensity. Suddenly one of my "virtual analog" sounds got a lot more interesting. :) > >Oh, and as for the conspiracy, there's a new TV drama coming out about the > >whole thing. It's called the "N files". Pretty scary. Among other things, > >they'll uncover the secret of why Synth fx processors never feature > >compression, and what the exact difference is between overdrive and > >distortion. ;-) Hehehe.. I'd much rather watch the "N files" instead of its X competitor (not referring to the X-series now)! :)

i can only use the gm bank...and even then...i don't think it is...hahah....i don't know a whole lot about midi....so...i want to use the n264 as my sound source...but i don't know how....:) _________________________________________________________ mIcHaEl BrOeR email: *@*.net ---------- > > From: Ted Scheriff Jr. <*@*.COM> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: Prices in Spain > > Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 3:00 PM > > > > In a message dated 98-02-20 14:44:48 EST, you write: > > > > << got cakewalk to use the names of all the patchs(yay!) but....i still can't > > actually use the patches...i'm EXTREMELY fustrated.....does anyone know > > what to do!? if so....THANK-YOU!!! > > > > Mike Broer > > >> > > mike - what exactly is the problem??? > > <<<i use my N364 with cakewalk...maybe i can help... > > -ted-

At 12:52 1998-02-18 -0800, Robert Neville wrote: > >I need an instrument which gives me complete control over the synth sounds > >and the ability to construst sounds from scratch. You can create sounds from scratch, but you'll have to use the ROM samples as oscillator waveforms. There are saw, square, ramp, sinus, pulse and pwm waveforms to use for "analog" sounds, but the Nx64 doesn't have a good filter. It's only lowpass, and there's no resonance. Bandpass and highpass filter can be done by experimenting with fx processor settings. There are LFOs for pitch and filter, and envelopes for amplitude, filter and pitch. You can use two oscillators in one patch, and have different LFO and envelope settings for each oscillator. You can also detune and delay the oscillators from eachother. There are two nice DSP fx processors with 47 effects, among them distortion and overdrive. However, if you want 100% control over everything, resonant multimode filters and blazing analog sounds, then you ought to get a virtual analog synthesizer (like the Nord Lead or Korg Z1) instead. If you want great sounding real&synth instruments, nice drums + a bit of analog possibilites, you should go for an Nx64!

Hey Steve Day, I have sent numerous E-mails at your other address but I think you may not be getting them. They show sent on this end and I've never had a problem before. Help, Tom

At 13:22 1998-02-18 -0800, Steve wrote: > >You can still get distortion from a larger amp if it has a poor > >THD value. Good amps have a THD rating of .01 or less. Crappy amps have > >a THD rating of .1 or greater. Do you mean 0.01% or 0.01? My amp manual says 0.2% THD at 8 Ohm. > > For your 250 watt speakers, I wouldn't use anything smaller than 100 > >watts per channel. Went looking for a 75-100W amp on the net, but the prices were high... > > I have Bose 901's that are rated at 270 watts. I run > >them with a 100 watt JVC stereo and you don't turn it up more than about > >1/4 of the way if you value your ears. :) Are you using an "integrated" stereo amp with CD/tape/etc inputs that doesn't need a preamp? I value lots of bass more than I value my ears. :)

At 21:27 1998-02-18 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote: > >It's not very healthy for speakers to use an amplifier with less power than > >the speakers. The amplifier will clip when the sound is too loud, and destroy > >the speakers. Oops. I've played REAL loud, so I hope my speakers haven't been damaged in some way... > >Bass creates very high biases ! What is bias?

A big thank you to everybody who answered my amplifier question! I learned a lot! Much appreciated!

And I've sent numerous emails to you as well. I don't know what's going on. I thought it was rather strange that you didn't answer any of them. :) Try *@*.com and we'll see if it goes through that way. I've been getting mail all day so I don't know why those aren't getting here. I apologize to the list users for this personal transaction but there appears to be a gremlin in the system. Steve Thomas Barrett wrote: > > > > Hey Steve Day, > > > > I have sent numerous E-mails at your other address but I think you may > > not be getting them. They show sent on this end and I've never had a > > problem before. > > > > Help, > > > > Tom

Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > > > At 13:22 1998-02-18 -0800, Steve wrote: > > >> > >You can still get distortion from a larger amp if it has a poor >> > >THD value. Good amps have a THD rating of .01 or less. Crappy amps have >> > >a THD rating of .1 or greater. > > > > Do you mean 0.01% or 0.01? My amp manual says 0.2% THD at 8 Ohm. .01% :) Forgot them little signs. :) 0.2% is BAD! :) Mine is rated at .005%. > > >> > > For your 250 watt speakers, I wouldn't use anything smaller than 100 >> > >watts per channel. > > > > Went looking for a 75-100W amp on the net, but the prices were high... They always seem to want money for that stuff. :) > > >> > > I have Bose 901's that are rated at 270 watts. I run >> > >them with a 100 watt JVC stereo and you don't turn it up more than about >> > >1/4 of the way if you value your ears. :) > > > > Are you using an "integrated" stereo amp with CD/tape/etc inputs that > > doesn't need a preamp? Yes. It's a JVC RX-703-V 100 watts RMS per channel. I believe I paid $469 for it when I bought it but that's been a few years ago. > > > > I value lots of bass more than I value my ears. :) I can relate. :) Steve

In a message dated 98-02-20 16:00:14 EST, you write: << i can only use the gm bank...and even then...i don't think it is...hahah....i don't know a whole lot about midi....so...i want to use the n264 as my sound source...but i don't know how....:) >> ok...go up to settings, go to "instruments"---you have to create a name for the korg-- just call it korgN264(or whatever...)otherwise it thinks youre using whatever instrument it already has listed...[i believe you have to go to "import"to create a new instrument] all you have to do is name it!!! : ) if you can---download the definitions for the Nx64, this will automatically give the names of the banks/programs when you use them... otherwise, when you type in the #of the program you want...it will go a number higher when you press enter...it will still be the program you want---it just reads it differently... i suggest you look for the instrument definitions... good luck---hope i helped--- : ) -ted-

At 14:40 20/02/98 -0500, you wrote: > >i got mine about a month ago for $2000.....that's in Canada.....and > >btw.....i downloaded the .ins file for the n264 from that ftp site, and i > >got cakewalk to use the names of all the patchs(yay!) but....i still can't > >actually use the patches...i'm EXTREMELY fustrated.....does anyone know > >what to do!? if so....THANK-YOU!!! > > Make sure there isnt anything in memory when you use cakewalk with your n-364. hold down the 'seq' key and '8' while powering on to clear it. Also make sure you press 'seq' each time you use cakewalk as your n364 must be in seq mode to use external sequencers. btw, im also in windsor and paid 2000$ for this n364 back in september. Gotta love the way law and mcquade overprices everything:) regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

I got the n364. I pd CND1840~USD1270 for a brand new one Hasnat > >i got mine about a month ago for $2000.....that's in Canada.....and > >btw.....i downloaded the .ins file for the n264 from that ftp site, and i > >got cakewalk to use the names of all the patchs(yay!) but....i still can't > >actually use the patches...i'm EXTREMELY fustrated.....does anyone know > >what to do!? if so....THANK-YOU!!! > > > >Mike Broer > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >mIcHaEl BrOeR > >email: *@*.net > > > >---------- >> >> From: Fedde Bouwman <f.s.*@*.UTWENTE.NL> >> >> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >> >> Subject: Re: Prices in Spain >> >> Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 2:14 PM >> >> >> >> At 13:41 20-2-98 +0100, you wrote: >>>> >> >>Alon Lederman wrote: >>>>> >> >>> another question: my parents are traveling to spain and holland. I > >guess >>>>> >> >>> prices in these countriese are lower than here in recife, brazil (for >>>>> >> >>> exapmle, a n264 was costing U$2800 here, and a marshall amplified > >speaker >>>>> >> >>> about US$800). anyone has idea of prices on differents countries? >>>>> >> >>> well, i think that's it. thank you in advance for any help, >>>>> >> >>> beny >>>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >Hi Beny. >>> >> >I'm Spanish and I bought my N364 seven months ago. Now it's about $1700. >> >> Hmmm... >> >> >> >> I bought my N264 2 months ago, and I paid about $1400 for it. >> >> (f 2800,- in dutch guilders) >> >> >> >> Greetz, >> >> >> >> Fedde > >

Talking abt all this speaker/rcver stuff, I wonder how my audio system stands out in all this. I use very simple stuff since I am pure amateur. I just hv the N...(offcourse), an integrated simple PIONEER stereo receiver model no#SX253R (with CD/tape/aux...) rated for 8-16ohm spekers and 70Watts per channel at 8ohm from 40-20000hz with no more than 0.9% total harmonic distortion (Whatever these crap means, I hv no idea, straight out of the manual :) ) Can somebody explain? And speakers? I am using Simple BOSE 201 series III for receivers rated 10-120W. Hasnat >> >>You can still get distortion from a larger amp if it has a poor >> >>THD value. Good amps have a THD rating of .01 or less. Crappy amps have >> >>a THD rating of .1 or greater. > > > >Do you mean 0.01% or 0.01? My amp manual says 0.2% THD at 8 Ohm. > > >> >> For your 250 watt speakers, I wouldn't use anything smaller than 100 >> >>watts per channel. > > > >Went looking for a 75-100W amp on the net, but the prices were high... > > >> >> I have Bose 901's that are rated at 270 watts. I run >> >>them with a 100 watt JVC stereo and you don't turn it up more than about >> >>1/4 of the way if you value your ears. :) > > > >Are you using an "integrated" stereo amp with CD/tape/etc inputs that > >doesn't need a preamp? > > > >I value lots of bass more than I value my ears. :)

Steve I hope that's in CND 'cause I pd abt 1840with tax here in Ottawa in end Sep'97 Hasnat > >btw, im also in windsor and paid 2000$ for this n364 back in september. Gotta > >love the way law and mcquade overprices everything:) > > > >regards, > >Steve Wallis > >*@*.net > >

At 01:22 21-2-98 +0100, you wrote: > >At 21:27 1998-02-18 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote: > > >> >>It's not very healthy for speakers to use an amplifier with less power than >> >>the speakers. The amplifier will clip when the sound is too loud, and destroy >> >>the speakers. > > > >Oops. I've played REAL loud, so I hope my speakers haven't been damaged in > >some way... > > >> >>Bass creates very high biases ! > > > >What is bias? Current Sorry, I didn't realize that it was an electrotechnical engineering term... BTW: maybe I should have said that their was a *possibility* that the speakers could be damaged. It just not very healthy for them. Fedde Bouwman Holland (student electrotechnical engineering :-)

It's possible to "emulate" both a resonant and a high-pass filter on the Nx64! Yesterday I discovered that the overdrive (and distortion) effect can be used to produce a resonant filter! I took sample 330 (saw) and put overdrive on it. Then I tweaked the overdrive parameters to produce lots of resonance at a high level, and then assigned the value slider (and the joystick) to the resonance intensity. After a bit of fiddling, I now have a cool growling analog sound! Since the Nx64 has saw, square, ramp, pulse, pwm etc it's possible to do nice analog sounds (not as nice as with a virtual analog synth, but nice enough). As I've said before, high-pass filter can be done by playing with the parametric EQ effect (and control the intensity with either the joystick or the value slider). Since there are two fx processors in the Nx64, high filter and resonance can be used at the same time. Oh, and to do more fun stuff with your analog sound, try phaser 1 or 2 or perhaps leslie! :)

Hi all, Please forgive my ignorance, can I use two or more instruments on a pattern? Thanks for you help. Kevin.

At 12:30 1998-02-21 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote: >> >>What is bias? > > > >Current. Oh, ok. > >Sorry, I didn't realize that it was an electrotechnical engineering term... I guess it's a common term, but I haven't studied technical english yet. ;) > >BTW: maybe I should have said that their was a *possibility* that the > >speakers could be damaged. It just not very healthy for them. Thanks for the warning though. I won't try to crank the speakers to death. Atleast not until I get a more powerful amp. :) BTW, I blew the bass cone on one of my previous speakers, but those speakers were of very low quality...

i tryed that....it didn't work either. is there something i have to do on the korg?? _________________________________________________________ mIcHaEl BrOeR email: *@*.net ---------- > > From: Ted Scheriff Jr. <*@*.COM> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: Prices in Spain > > Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 1:36 AM > > > > In a message dated 98-02-20 16:00:14 EST, you write: > > > > << i can only use the gm bank...and even then...i don't think it > > is...hahah....i don't know a whole lot about midi....so...i want to use the > > n264 as my sound source...but i don't know how....:) > > >> > > ok...go up to settings, go to "instruments"---you have to create a name for > > the korg-- > > just call it korgN264(or whatever...)otherwise it thinks youre using whatever > > instrument it already has listed...[i believe you have to go to "import"to > > create a new instrument] all you have to do is name it!!! : ) > > if you can---download the definitions for the Nx64, this will automatically > > give the names of the banks/programs when you use them... > > otherwise, when you type in the #of the program you want...it will go a number > > higher when you press enter...it will still be the program you want---it just > > reads it differently... > > i suggest you look for the instrument definitions... > > good luck---hope i helped--- : ) > > -ted-

At 01:43 1998-02-21 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: > >Make sure there isnt anything in memory when you use cakewalk with your n-364. > >hold down the 'seq' key and '8' while powering on to clear it. !???!!?!?!?!??!?!?!? You don't have to clear the sequencer!!!!! You can safely play anything from Cakewalk on your N even if the sequencer is 100% full. > >Also make sure you press 'seq' each time you use cakewalk as your n364 must be > >in seq mode to use external sequencers. Or send a nice little GM reset message to the N from Cakewalk.

At 16:54 1998-02-20 -0800, Steve wrote: >> >> Do you mean 0.01% or 0.01? My amp manual says 0.2% THD at 8 Ohm. > > > > .01% :) Forgot them little signs. :) 0.2% is BAD! :) Mine is rated at > >.005%. That's what I suspected... :( > >It's a JVC RX-703-V 100 watts RMS per channel. I believe I paid > >$469 for it when I bought it but that's been a few years ago. I'll probably buy something like that.

At 21:07 1998-02-19 -0500, Alan Moore wrote: > >So am I to assume that an upgrade, of say, the arpeggiator functions is not > >beyond the scope of imagination? can we get Korg to do this? I guess the arpeggiator is 100% controlled by software, so a new ROM could very well fix the problems! Ask Korg if they're going to release any new ROMs. If nobody finds any bugs or problems with the current ROM, they won't do a new one. So go a ahead and send them your complaints: *@*.com There are a couple of other email addresses too, but I don't know them...

At 09:22 1998-02-20 -0500, Mike Broer wrote: > >If you don't mind.....where can you download the disk?? ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ and the file is "rpprdrum.zip".

At 19:25 1998-02-19 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: > >I'm trying to download the CW 6 version and just get garbage on the > >screen Your browser reads the file as text because it doesn't recognize the file extension (or file type). If you're using Netscape Navigator, press right mouse on the link and select "save link as".

what the hell! this list is infected with engineering students? thank you all for your attention and your answers. btw: i'm also a engineering student...nobody is perfect.... beny

Alon Lederman wrote: > > > > what the hell! > > > > this list is infected with engineering students? > > > > thank you all for your attention and your answers. > > > > btw: i'm also a engineering student...nobody is perfect.... > > > > beny Hey Beny, To what message are you responding? Tom

At 23:53 20/02/98 PST, you wrote: > >Steve > > > >I hope that's in CND 'cause I pd abt 1840with tax here in Ottawa in end > >Sep'97 > > > >Hasnat I paid aproximately 2000$ canadain including taxes. Still think I paid too much tho. The Xp50 was only 2300$ +tax, wish I would have snagged that instead..oh well-live and learn i guess:) regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

> >I paid aproximately 2000$ canadain including taxes. Still think I paid too much > >tho. The Xp50 was only 2300$ +tax, wish I would have snagged that instead..oh > >well-live and learn i guess:) > > > >regards, > > > >Steve Wallis > >*@*.net Yup, live and learn..... I dont know much abt the roland XP50 all I know it costs more than n364. What do it hv more that N doesn't? I know it's expandable for sounds and has mirc chip for faster response or something..... BTW in ottawa xp50 is 2000+tax but I didn't hv the cash + for some reason I had a mind for KORG and 2nd roland... So I dont know if I made a mistake...but so far Korg is suiting me fine..:) Hasnat

> >Yup, live and learn..... I dont know much abt the roland XP50 all I > >know it costs more than n364. What do it hv more that N doesn't? I > >know it's expandable for sounds and has mirc chip for faster response or > >something..... BTW in ottawa xp50 is 2000+tax but I didn't hv the cash > >+ for some reason I had a mind for KORG and 2nd roland... So I dont > >know if I made a mistake...but so far Korg is suiting me fine..:) > > > >Hasnat Well both the xp50 and n364 are excellant boards but when it comes down to features the xp50 takes the prize. Xp50 has resonance, filters, real time sliders and major upgrade ability(dance,techno, vintage synth, orchestral, hip hop, drum and bass exapansion boards ect...) Wish Korg would have incorporated at least some of these features into the n364 but they seem content to keep releasing the same piece of gear under new names(X3/n364/T series/M1 ect..) They all sound the same with very little features to compromise. Like the arpegiater in the n364..its pretty much worthless. You cant even tell how many bpm the thing is clocking at, it uses some freak number instead which is virtually impossible to sync to your tracks(Ive had no luck with it anyways)and its not very programable. The rppr features on the N364 are excellant tho. I love the way we can assign entire patterns to a single key(comes in great for live use). And most importantly the sounds of the n364 are amazing. Granted we've heard them on every other korg synth pretty much but there still awesome. I like this synth dont get me wrong I just wish Korg would have taking the time to put more features into it. regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

i know one difference between korg and most other keyboard brands, cept alesis MAYBE....korg sounds are MUCH MUCH bigger. if u goof around on a bunch of different boards, as i've done for MANY hours...you'll soon agree. it's not even extremely noticeable to the ear always. it's how the sounds play. btw.....a note of interest for some of you maybe, it has nothing to do with korg or N or anything...BUT! a friend of mine went to a roland demo in toronto last weekend i think it was....and he saw (i might be off a little) but i think it was a sampler. but....it had a light sensored modulation. you could assign a number of different things to it....say you assigned temp.....and then started a beat, as you move your hand around the beat changes tempo...kinda like automatic toilets or handryers!! it's sounds REALLY cool to me!! the buddy of mine is gonna buy one, or so he says....dreams is more like it...they're over $3000...so.....the price is high..but it would be a REALLY cool toy!! hah...anyways! hope you find that interesting.... mb-out _________________________________________________________ mIcHaEl BrOeR email: *@*.net ---------- > > From: Hasnat M <*@*.COM> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: Prices in Spain > > Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 3:23 AM > > >> > >I paid aproximately 2000$ canadain including taxes. Still think I paid > > too much >> > >tho. The Xp50 was only 2300$ +tax, wish I would have snagged that > > instead..oh >> > >well-live and learn i guess:) >> > > >> > >regards, >> > > >> > >Steve Wallis >> > >*@*.net > > > > > > Yup, live and learn..... I dont know much abt the roland XP50 all I > > know it costs more than n364. What do it hv more that N doesn't? I > > know it's expandable for sounds and has mirc chip for faster response or > > something..... BTW in ottawa xp50 is 2000+tax but I didn't hv the cash > > + for some reason I had a mind for KORG and 2nd roland... So I dont > > know if I made a mistake...but so far Korg is suiting me fine..:) > > > > Hasnat > > > >

k...i did all that.....which by the way almost made me lose a gig!! hahah...i didn't realize it would clear all the rppr's as well!! i lost one that i needed for that night....and i didn't think i'd put it on disk yet....but...luckily i had! i was scared. but anyways...thanks for all the help...everyone...but it still won't work! hah..maybe i'm dumb! i've got the instrument definition file from that ftp site (which by the way i can't seem to get to again! hmm...), i tried clearing the memory and being in sequencer mode...umm...i don't need an audio send do i?? i don't think i do...i just have midi...but....anyother suggestions?? sorry for the pain..but i REALLY need to get this working! thank-you all SO MUCH! mb-out _________________________________________________________ mIcHaEl BrOeR email: *@*.net ---------- > > From: Steve Wallis <*@*.Net> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: Prices in Spain > > Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 1:43 AM > > > > At 14:40 20/02/98 -0500, you wrote: >> > >i got mine about a month ago for $2000.....that's in Canada.....and >> > >btw.....i downloaded the .ins file for the n264 from that ftp site, and i >> > >got cakewalk to use the names of all the patchs(yay!) but....i still can't >> > >actually use the patches...i'm EXTREMELY fustrated.....does anyone know >> > >what to do!? if so....THANK-YOU!!! >> > > > > > > Make sure there isnt anything in memory when you use cakewalk with your n-364. > > hold down the 'seq' key and '8' while powering on to clear it. Also make sure > > you press 'seq' each time you use cakewalk as your n364 must be in seq mode > > to use external sequencers. > > > > btw, im also in windsor and paid 2000$ for this n364 back in september. Gotta > > love the way law and mcquade overprices everything:) > > > > regards, > > Steve Wallis > > *@*.net

Please remove me from this mailing list. thanks > >

Thanx Steve for the details. Wish what u are saying was true too about korg hving more features...I guess it means if u want more, spend some more dough on synths :) Hasnat > > > >Well both the xp50 and n364 are excellant boards but when it comes down to > >features the xp50 takes the prize. Xp50 has resonance, filters, real time > >sliders and major upgrade ability(dance,techno, vintage synth, orchestral, > >hip hop, drum and bass exapansion boards ect...) Wish Korg would have > >incorporated at least some of these features into the n364 but they seem > >content to keep releasing the same piece of gear under new names(X3/n364/T > >series/M1 ect..) They all sound the same with very little features to > >compromise. Like the arpegiater in the n364..its pretty much worthless. You > >cant even tell how many bpm the thing is clocking at, it uses some freak > >number instead which is virtually impossible to sync to your tracks(Ive had no > >luck with it anyways)and its not very programable. The rppr features on the > >N364 are excellant tho. I love the way we can assign entire patterns to a > >single key(comes in great for live use). And most importantly the sounds of > >the n364 are amazing. Granted we've heard them on every other korg synth > >pretty much but there still awesome. I like this synth dont get me wrong I > >just wish Korg > >would have taking the time to put more features into it. > > > >regards, > > > >Steve Wallis > >*@*.net > >

ken- i use cakewalk---(i know you dont, but) can i use this to effect one or two tracks without effecting the rest-- perhaps if the rest of my sequence consists of drums/strings/bass/etc... if i do this to emulate a filter sound on say, a square or saw...would it effect the other sounds??? -ted-

oh-yeah---it has to be in sequence mode!!! : ) -ted-

mike- i believe what you're describing is called a "theremin" -ted-

At 14:42 21-2-98 +0100, you wrote: > >It's possible to "emulate" both a resonant and a high-pass filter on the Nx64! > > > >Yesterday I discovered that the overdrive (and distortion) effect can be > >used to produce a resonant filter! > > > >I took sample 330 (saw) and put overdrive on it. Then I tweaked the > >overdrive parameters to produce lots of resonance at a high level, and then > >assigned the value slider (and the joystick) to the resonance intensity. > >After a bit of fiddling, I now have a cool growling analog sound! > > > >Since the Nx64 has saw, square, ramp, pulse, pwm etc it's possible to do > >nice analog sounds (not as nice as with a virtual analog synth, but nice > >enough). > > > > > >As I've said before, high-pass filter can be done by playing with the > >parametric EQ effect (and control the intensity with either the joystick or > >the value slider). > > > >Since there are two fx processors in the Nx64, high filter and resonance > >can be used at the same time. > > > >Oh, and to do more fun stuff with your analog sound, try phaser 1 or 2 or > >perhaps leslie! :) Cool.... I you have made some cool analog sounds, could you please share them with us ??? Thanks, Fedde Bouwman

At 04:47 22-2-98 -0500, you wrote: >> >>Yup, live and learn..... I dont know much abt the roland XP50 all I >> >>know it costs more than n364. What do it hv more that N doesn't? I >> >>know it's expandable for sounds and has mirc chip for faster response or >> >>something..... BTW in ottawa xp50 is 2000+tax but I didn't hv the cash >> >>+ for some reason I had a mind for KORG and 2nd roland... So I dont >> >>know if I made a mistake...but so far Korg is suiting me fine..:) >> >> >> >>Hasnat > > > >Well both the xp50 and n364 are excellant boards but when it comes down to > >features the xp50 takes the prize. Xp50 has resonance, filters, real time > >sliders and major upgrade ability(dance,techno, vintage synth, orchestral, > >hip hop, drum and bass exapansion boards ect...) Wish Korg would have > >incorporated at least some of these features into the n364 but they seem > >content to keep releasing the same piece of gear under new names(X3/n364/T > >series/M1 ect..) They all sound the same with very little features to > >compromise. Like the arpegiater in the n364..its pretty much worthless. You > >cant even tell how many bpm the thing is clocking at, it uses some freak > >number instead which is virtually impossible to sync to your tracks(Ive had no > >luck with it anyways)and its not very programable. The rppr features on the > >N364 are excellant tho. I love the way we can assign entire patterns to a > >single key(comes in great for live use). And most importantly the sounds of > >the n364 are amazing. Granted we've heard them on every other korg synth > >pretty much but there still awesome. I like this synth dont get me wrong I > >just wish Korg > >would have taking the time to put more features into it. Ok, Roland maybe has a resonant filter. But the analog patches from the Korg sound better than the ones from the Roland. The expansion boards from Roland are cool, but cost a lot of money, I would rather have a new sound module. The realtime sliders of the Roland are hardly used practically in the patches. (and Korg has a 4-direction joystick, with 1 slider and 1 pedal, enough for me) One important difference however is that the samples from the XP50 are of higher quality (44.1 Khz, 16 bit), providing some realistic instruments. (also more sample ROM, 16 MB instead of 8 MB). Roland has, for example, rather good piano's. (but its drum sounds are crap) For live performance (fat synthesizer sounds) I would prefer a Korg much to a Roland. Its combinations are very practical, and sound great ! I also like the design and keyboard of the N-series more. I think that Korg wanted to make an mid-class synthesizer with the N-series, they wanted to keep the synthesizer cheap. The Trinity has much new options (48 Khz 16 bit samples in 24 Mb ROM, high/low/bandpass and resonance filters, 14 effects at the same time from a selection of 100 !!!, and it is very upgradeable), but you have to pay a price for it.... BTW: in Holland costs the XP50 as much as the N364. (but I still bought the Korg :-)

On Sat, Feb 21, 1998 at 05:07:56PM +0100, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: >> > >Also make sure you press 'seq' each time you use cakewalk as your n364 > > must be in seq mode to use external sequencers. > > > > Or send a nice little GM reset message to the N from Cakewalk. I started playing with Cakewalk the other day, and I had not only to press 'seq' at the beginning, but also to set GM mode on the current song. And sometimes it would go back to a fixed (wrong) patch when starting play, and I'd have to do that again on the synth. How does one send GM reset messages from Cakewalk? And how does one use the other program banks, and select patches in them? And finally.. before I start really learning Cakewalk, is that a good choice? or should I try cubase instead?

For the keyboard or the software? I meant the keyboard manual.

What mode are you in on the keyboard when you sequence? You can sequence from either sequencer mode or combi mode (provided that all the channels are set to their own midi channel. You can only use 8 channels this way but I rarely use more than six or seven with what I do and it's a lot easier to set patches and stuff.) If you do it from combi, you must also set the patch select fileter (in the global menu) to NUM (I think, I'm trying to remember--I set it once a long time ago and haven't needed to set it since). Other than that, I'd have to be sitting down with it to help you.

At 18:17 22/02/98 EST, you wrote: > >ken- > > > >i use cakewalk---(i know you dont, but) > >can i use this to effect one or two tracks without effecting the rest-- > >perhaps if the rest of my sequence consists of drums/strings/bass/etc... > >if i do this to emulate a filter sound on say, a square or saw...would it > >effect the other sounds??? > >-ted- If you use parellel 3 and properly adjust the c/d sends it wont effect your other channels. Just spend some time tweaking the overdrive/eq effect to get the best sound out of it under parallel 3. regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

Yeah, I've been using the wha effect a lot; I play in a funk band, so I use some nifty clav sounds with the wha filter set to VDA-EG (basically an envelope filter). The only problem with that is that you're using the fx processors, which ,as you know, you only have two of, so if you're sequencing or using some of the massive splits that I use sometimes, that's one less effect and send that I have available for other stuff. Color is minimally usefull in making sounds nasal, I've found, which is good sometimes for stuff like clav or lead sounds, but once again, why not just put a HPF in there? Why did they go to the trouble of inventing some parameter that nobody has heard of before that doesn't do much? It'd be cool, too if I could modulate that resonant wha with the LFO or it's own envelope, which is what bums me out about it being an effect. Oh well; I guess that's why they make analogue modelling synths. BTW, I read a review about the Z1 in Electronic Musician. Sounds like a killer machine. I was thinking about adding a yamaha an1x to my rig (when I get that million dollar record deal--pshaw!), but maybe the Z1 would be cooler....hmmmm... :-) Alan

At 17:07 21/02/98 +0100, you wrote: > >At 01:43 1998-02-21 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: > > >> >>Make sure there isnt anything in memory when you use cakewalk with your > >n-364. >> >>hold down the 'seq' key and '8' while powering on to clear it. > > > >!???!!?!?!?!??!?!?!? > > > >You don't have to clear the sequencer!!!!! > > > >You can safely play anything from Cakewalk on your N even if the sequencer > >is 100% full. I have to clear the memory of the n364 everytime i use external sequencers or it just doesnt play right(this happens to me in both cakewalk and windows media player btw)

At 15:16 22/02/98 PST, you wrote: > >Thanx Steve for the details. Wish what u are saying was true too about > >korg hving more features...I guess it means if u want more, spend some > >more dough on synths :) > > > >Hasnat Unfortunately thats always the case..arghh! :) So many synths..so little money hehe regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

If you use this on two tracks, though, keep in mind that their both going through one filter, so it may not sound exactly right. That is to say, if you have one sustained sound that's keeping the filter open, the other sounds are not going to have much of a wha effect. I'm having trouble explaining it. It's kind of like if you send more than one track into one channel of a compressor; you don't get them both compressed, you just get the sum compressed. Ok that's even more confusing. Never mind.

Like I said, though, you can't use an LFO or a discrete envelope to modulate this resonant filter. And you only have them in the fx, which means that if you need chorus or reverb or any other two effects, you can't do it. Still, it sounds good. I almost bought a quadrasynth, but I found out it doesn't have distortion or filters (I think) so I bought the Korg. The distortion is killer. I use it on about 80 percent of my sounds. I like using distortion on drum tracks when I sequence; it adds a little extra punch. You can make the bass drum rather impressive, too. What kind of music does everyone make with their N364?

Please remove me from this mailing list. Thank you.

Just wanted to thank the quite large number of people who responded to my newbie question. Thanks very much. This list works and seems friendly even to the beginner. I think that I am going to go ahead with the n-364. Wish me luck. Robert

i think im seeing the problem here... people are asking why do the patches automatically change to gm?? ive had this problem... you cant write a song on the on-board sequencer and translate it for cakewalk--- if you want to use cakewalk---you have to start writing the song on cakewalk!!! as for your finished songs?---i found that i just have to fix the banks to the proper ones... but you have to do it everytime you open the file... hope i could help : ) -ted-

thanx steve i do understand : ) i program elektro/darkwave kinda anywayz...

i have an extra N264 keyboard manual, is that what u need? _________________________________________________________ mIcHaEl BrOeR email: *@*.net ---------- > > From: Alan Moore <*@*.COM> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: N264 and Cakewalk 5 > > Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 10:51 PM > > > > For the keyboard or the software? I meant the keyboard manual.

for me the problem is that i can't use any patches from my N! i'm starting in cakewalk.....the N's manual is NO help...and i don't have the cakewalk manual..so...arg! _________________________________________________________ mIcHaEl BrOeR email: *@*.net ---------- > > From: Ted Scheriff Jr. <*@*.COM> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N > > Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 2:06 AM > > > > i think im seeing the problem here... > > people are asking why do the patches automatically change to gm?? > > ive had this problem... > > you cant write a song on the on-board sequencer and translate it for > > cakewalk--- > > if you want to use cakewalk---you have to start writing the song on > > cakewalk!!! > > as for your finished songs?---i found that i just have to fix the banks to the > > proper ones... but you have to do it everytime you open the file... > > hope i could help : ) > > -ted-

u have any songs to share? _________________________________________________________ mIcHaEl BrOeR email: *@*.net ---------- > > From: Ted Scheriff Jr. <*@*.COM> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: Resonant and hi-pass filters!! > > Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 2:10 AM > > > > thanx steve i do understand : ) > > i program elektro/darkwave > > kinda anywayz...

> > What kind of music does everyone make with their N364? > > industrial!! wooo =D er i try my best.

Hi all! In order to have cakewalk sequence loading the GM bank every time you open that specific sequence, you have to insert two "Control Change" controllers and a "Patch Change" at the beggining of each track on that sequence. I don't remember which is the correct Control Change for GM, but if you wanted to set all tracs to play on bank C you shuld insert the following parameters at the beggining of each track: Type of Controller Value(decimal) NOTE =================================================================== Control Change 00 This will tell N264 that the following Control Change is the bank selection =================================================================== Control Change 02 This will tell N264 that the bank C has been selected for this specific track.(See NOTE). =================================================================== Patch Change XX Where XX is the Patch number that you want to use on that track. =================================================================== NOTE: 00 will select Bank A 01 will select Bank B 02 will select Bank C 03 will select Bank D ?? will select Bank GM (See manual for further information). On cakewalk 1.3 you add a Controller (control change or patch change) by clicking with the right mouse button on the desired track and choosing the Event Browser option for the pop-up menu. Then just press the Insert Key of your PC keyboard and a menu will come up. Choose the desire controller and you are done!!!! I hope this can help... Regards, Alejandro. >From *@*.syntegra.net Mon Feb 23 10:30:35 1998 > >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21]) > > by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07303; > > Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:14:09 +0100 (MET) > >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release > > 1.8c) with spool id 1304 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Mon, 23 Feb > > 1998 19:14:08 +0100 > >Received: from MNSi.Net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by mail.rijnhaave.nl > > (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07297 for <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; > > Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:14:06 +0100 (MET) > >Received: from mnsi.net.mnsi.net (dyn208-6-76-213.lon.mnsi.net [208.6.76.213]) > > by MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id NAA00245 for > > <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:12:24 -0500 > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Priority: 3 > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Message-ID: <199802231812.*@*.Net> > >Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:07:34 -0500 > >Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> > >Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> > >From: Mike Broer <*@*.NET> > >Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N > >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > > >for me the problem is that i can't use any patches from my N! i'm starting > >in cakewalk.....the N's manual is NO help...and i don't have the cakewalk > >manual..so...arg! > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >mIcHaEl BrOeR > >email: *@*.net > > > >---------- >> >> From: Ted Scheriff Jr. <*@*.COM> >> >> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >> >> Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N >> >> Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 2:06 AM >> >> >> >> i think im seeing the problem here... >> >> people are asking why do the patches automatically change to gm?? >> >> ive had this problem... >> >> you cant write a song on the on-board sequencer and translate it for >> >> cakewalk--- >> >> if you want to use cakewalk---you have to start writing the song on >> >> cakewalk!!! >> >> as for your finished songs?---i found that i just have to fix the banks > >to the >> >> proper ones... but you have to do it everytime you open the file... >> >> hope i could help : ) >> >> -ted- > >

At 15:35 1998-02-22 -0500, Mike Broer wrote: > >it had a light sensored modulation. you could assign a number of > >different things to it....say you assigned temp.....and then started a beat, > >as you move your hand around the beat changes tempo... I saw a bit about that on the Digital Hell mailing list. It'll also be possible to buy a stand-alone sensor midi controller to connect with any synth/keyboard/computer. The joystick and the value slider on my N364 is good enough for me. :)

At 18:23 1998-02-22 -0500, Ted Scheriff Jr. wrote: > >mike- > >i believe what you're describing is called a "theremin" Nopes. A Theremin (named after the constructor I believe) is one of the very first synthesizers ever made, far back in time (don't know exactly when, but it's a long time ago). You (can) could control the pitch and volume of a simple soundwave (sinus or something) by moving your hand up/down and towards/away from an antenna. The idea is similar, but it's not the same device. :)

At 02:06 1998-02-23 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote: > >If you have made some cool analog sounds, could you please share them with > >us ??? I might very well do that some time. For now I'm busy shaping them as I want them to sound.

At 02:08 1998-02-23 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote: > >One important difference however is that the samples from the XP50 are of > >higher quality (44.1 Khz, 16 bit) What frequency/bitwidth is the Nx64 using? > >The Trinity has much new options (48 Khz 16`bit samples in 24 Mb ROM, > >high/low/bandpass and resonance filters, 14 effects at the same time from > >a selection of 100 !!! That settles it. I'll go rip the mainboard out of a Trinity and integrate it with my N364, to make it provide 64 voice polyphony! :)

At 23:10 1998-02-22 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: > >I have to clear the memory of the n364 everytime i use external sequencers or > >it just doesnt play right(this happens to me in both cakewalk and windows > >media player btw) Very strange. I've been using all sorts of midi players and sequencers (including Cubasis/Cubase/Cakewalk) in win95, and it always plays right. And I've got several of the songs in the internal sequencer filled with data... What is it that is played wrong? Wrong programs? Then it's probably a filter setting in global edit mode on your N.

At 23:31 1998-02-22 -0500, Alan Moore wrote: > >If you use this on two tracks, though, keep in mind that their both going > >through one filter, so it may not sound exactly right. That is to say, if you > >have one sustained sound that's keeping the filter open, the other sounds are > >not going to have much of a wha effect. Very true. I don't use both in any of my analog sounds, but since it's possible I just had to say so. :)

At 23:37 1998-02-22 -0500, Alan Moore wrote: > >Like I said, though, you can't use an LFO or a discrete envelope to modulate > >this resonant filter. Nopes. But you can assign it to a controller (like the joystick/slider) and play with it like #¤!"¤% from an external sequencer. :) You could use an external midi programming language to construct an LFO that sends data to a specified controller (i.e. modulation), and assign that controller to resonance depth. Not very handy, but it would work. > >And you only have them in the fx, which means that if > >you need chorus or reverb or any other two effects, you can't do it. You can use overdrive and reverb at the same time (and parallell 3 fx placement). That's enough for most songs. > >I like using distortion on drum tracks Me too! I changed some of the drums in A09 Zulu Kit and added distortion to some of the bassdrums and a snare. I think it sounds a whole lot better now. ;) > >What kind of music does everyone make with their N364? I do all kinds of music, but mainly techno/rave/trance/dance. My N364 is the cornerstone from which I currently take ALL my sounds.

At 21:47 1998-02-22 -0800, Robert Neville wrote: > >I think that I am going to go ahead with the n-364. Wish me luck. Nice choice. May the force be with you! :)

At 02:06 1998-02-23 -0500, Ted Scheriff Jr. wrote: > >you cant write a song on the on-board sequencer and translate it for > >cakewalk--- I doubt that. Haven't tried it yet, but I will soon. I'm sure it's possible in some way.

At 13:07 1998-02-23 -0500, Mike Broer wrote: > >for me the problem is that i can't use any patches from my N! i'm starting > >in cakewalk..... If you have the Cakewalk instrument definition for the Nx64 it will work (depending on which version of Cakewalk you use). It works for me.

At 12:50 1998-02-23 -0800, Kaliss Elinon wrote: >> >> What kind of music does everyone make with their N364? >> >> > >industrial!! wooo =D er i try my best. Industrial? Hmm.. yum yum! :)

i have it and it won't work....i got cakewalk 5....i'm going nuts here...haha... _________________________________________________________ Mike Broer email: *@*.net ---------- > > From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N > > Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 8:10 PM > > > > At 13:07 1998-02-23 -0500, Mike Broer wrote: > > >> > >for me the problem is that i can't use any patches from my N! i'm starting >> > >in cakewalk..... > > > > If you have the Cakewalk instrument definition for the Nx64 it will work > > (depending on which version of Cakewalk you use). It works for me.

> >Ok, Roland maybe has a resonant filter. But the analog patches from the > >Korg sound > >better than the ones from the Roland. The expansion boards from Roland are > >cool, > >but cost a lot of money, I would rather have a new sound module. An Amateur q probably.... I am hearing about these sound modules, what exactly are they and how they work? > >The realtime sliders of the Roland are hardly used practically in the patches. (and Korg has a 4-direction joystick, with 1 slider and 1 pedal, enough for me) > >One important difference however is that the samples from the XP50 are of higher quality (44.1 Khz, 16 bit), providing some realistic instruments. (also more sample ROM, 16 MB instead of 8 MB). What quality of sample was used in N? 44.1khz/22?? hasnat

At 01:23 24/02/98 +0100, you wrote: > >At 02:08 1998-02-23 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote: > > >> >>One important difference however is that the samples from the XP50 are of >> >>higher quality (44.1 Khz, 16 bit) The N364 uses 16 bit 44khz samples aswell. The samples in the xp50 are not of a higher quality-someone once told me they were 18 bit 44khz but ive yet to see any actual specs to confirm this. > >What frequency/bitwidth is the Nx64 using? > > >> >>The Trinity has much new options (48 Khz 16`bit samples in 24 Mb ROM, >> >>high/low/bandpass and resonance filters, 14 effects at the same time from >> >>a selection of 100 !!! > >That settles it. I'll go rip the mainboard out of a Trinity and integrate > >it with my N364, to make it provide 64 voice polyphony! :) lol, just remember to send one this way aswell if you ever accomplish that:) regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

At 01:41 24/02/98 +0100, you wrote: > >At 23:10 1998-02-22 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: > > >> >>I have to clear the memory of the n364 everytime i use external sequencers or >> >>it just doesnt play right(this happens to me in both cakewalk and windows >> >>media player btw) > > > >Very strange. I've been using all sorts of midi players and sequencers > >(including Cubasis/Cubase/Cakewalk) in win95, and it always plays right. > >And I've got several of the songs in the internal sequencer filled with > >data... > >What is it that is played wrong? Wrong programs? Then it's probably a > >filter setting in global edit mode on your N. Could be, I dont really mess around with the global settings often as I dont really know how to configure things yet. What happens tho is it'll sometimes default to the programs in the n364 memory instead of playing the channels that are sent to the n364-i have to clear the memory and sometimes even manually set the channels on the n364. This happens with Gm/GS tunes-it rarely plays them right. Even when I load them into the n364 I get the same problems at times

At 21:05 23/02/98 -0500, you wrote: > >i have it and it won't work....i got cakewalk 5....i'm going nuts > >here...haha... Do this then: Download a cakewalk .ins file for the N364 and rename it to 'master.ins' then simply copy it into your n364 directory. If the .ins is correct it will work without problems. Remember to backup the original master.ins first tho. regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

Hello Here! I've just joined the list and hopefully I will get some answers out of you ;-) Here we go... I've succesfully created a few "mixer"-maps in Cubase for the N364, they include things like volume, pan, bend-range, VCF-cutoff, attack, release etc. But, how do I do the following from Cubase/MIDI when the N364 is in sequencer-mode: a) Set a track to a different MIDI-channel? b) Create a mixer-map that controls the effects? c) Mute a track? It's the MIDI-specifications I just can't grasp. To change a parameter in a sound via MIDI isn't hard, it is explained in the MIDI-specifications in the manual (n364 that is) but I can't see a way to control the things mentioned above. Help me please, I'm getting sick of this trial and error... Regards L a v i s E - m a i l: *@*.se

On Tue, Feb 24, 1998 at 12:26:09AM -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: > > This happens with Gm/GS tunes-it rarely plays > > them right. Even when I load them into the n364 I get the same problems at > > times well, the N is n't GS-compatible, says the manual. has anyone found a way to play midi GS files by converting the patches on the fly? it sounds like sequencers ought to be able to do that.

Can we synchronize the arp. if we use an external sequencer, like a PC? That way we can at least use arp. during live performances, which is now impossible. -Toon

At 15.12 +0100 98-02-24, Toon Theuwis wrote: > >Can we synchronize the arp. if we use an external sequencer, like a PC? > >That way we can at least use arp. during live performances, which is now > >impossible. To the best of my knowledge, it is simply not possible. Regards L a v i s E - m a i l: *@*.se

with an external sequencer-just do it manually--- write it i mean...its not that hard... -ted-

Yeah; somewhere in there it tells you how to send bank select messages. If I'm remembering right, send controller zero with a value of zero, followed by controller 32 with a value of 0, 1, 2, or 3 depending on if you want bank a, b, c, or d (respectively). For the GM sounds, send a controller 0 with a value of 52, followed by a controller 32 with a value of 0 (I may have the values switched there). I believe the GM drumkits work the same, except you send a controller 0 with a value of 62 instead.

It should definitly be possible. I believe (but I forget at the moment) that you can save individual songs as midi files. Since the Korg saves on DOS formatted disks, you should be able to pop these right out of the korg and into your PC, then load in the file. Alternately, you can sync up cakewalk to the internal synth by designating the clock as external (in the global parameter) and just hitting record on cakewalk. Then you have to use the "interpolate" feature (though this is not found on Cakewalk Home studio; I don't know about cakewalk 5) to separate the tracks by channel number. I may be wrong about some of that, but theoretically it should work.

NO. This is what I've been whining about. The arpeggiator is useless. Useless. We just have to let it go and pretend like it isn't there. You can't even sync it to it's own midi clock, let alone an external one. Someone over at Korg had a brainfart on this one.

pardon my stupidity...but i have NO IDEA how to do that.....could u explain that? THANK-YOU!! _________________________________________________________ Mike Broer email: *@*.net ---------- > > From: Alan Moore <*@*.COM> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: N264 and Cakewalk 5 > > Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 7:59 PM > > > > Yeah; somewhere in there it tells you how to send bank select messages. If > > I'm remembering right, send controller zero with a value of zero, followed by > > controller 32 with a value of 0, 1, 2, or 3 depending on if you want bank a, > > b, c, or d (respectively). > > For the GM sounds, send a controller 0 with a value of 52, followed by a > > controller 32 with a value of 0 (I may have the values switched there). I > > believe the GM drumkits work the same, except you send a controller 0 with a > > value of 62 instead.

> >What mode are you in on the keyboard when you sequence? You can sequence from > >either sequencer mode or combi mode (provided that all the channels are set to > >their own midi channel. How do u sequence using Combi mode? All I know is if u wanna use combi, u copy a combi on to the seq. Hasnat You can only use 8 channels this way but I rarely use > >more than six or seven with what I do and it's a lot easier to set patches and > >stuff.) > >If you do it from combi, you must also set the patch select fileter (in the > >global menu) to NUM (I think, I'm trying to remember--I set it once a long > >time ago and haven't needed to set it since). > >Other than that, I'd have to be sitting down with it to help you. > >

I hv some q but it has almost nothing to do with N...maybe.. Some software q to be exact?!? what is an Editor/Librarian? I think u use programs like SoundDriver fm Emagic. Hasnat

hi everybody! first of all,i dont want to start a roland X korg fight here, just want to have some opinions from other persons who like making music like me. i dont know if you agree with me, but i heard a soundcanvas from roland at a friend's house and some sounds seemed much better than korg's - the acoustic sounds like saxophone or piano, or even the power drums- korg's drums seem they are being heard through a pipe-, but no doubt the synth sounds of korgs are much better- they're heavier, fatter. now i was wondering if i should buy a small sound module- like soundcanvas, for about U$200,00 and use it together with my n364. then i would have both korg and roland sounds... Is it worthy? does someone uses something like that? beny

i'm planning on getting a roland tone module too. as soon as i get some $$$. its worthy. you get the best of both worlds ---Beny Lederman <*@*.COM.BR> wrote: > > > > hi everybody! > > > > first of all,i dont want to start a roland X korg fight here, just want to > > have some opinions from other persons who like making music like me. > > > > i dont know if you agree with me, but i heard a soundcanvas from roland at a > > friend's house and some sounds seemed much better than korg's - the acoustic > > sounds like saxophone or piano, or even the power drums- korg's drums seem > > they are being heard through a pipe-, but no doubt the synth sounds of korgs > > are much better- they're heavier, fatter. > > > > now i was wondering if i should buy a small sound module- like soundcanvas, > > for about U$200,00 and use it together with my n364. then i would have both > > korg and roland sounds... Is it worthy? does someone uses something like that? > > > > beny > >

At 16:39 1998-02-25 -0300, Beny Lederman wrote: > >i dont know if you agree with me, but i heard a soundcanvas from roland at a > >friend's house and some sounds seemed much better than korg's - the acoustic > >sounds like saxophone or piano, or even the power drums- korg's drums seem > >they are being heard through a pipe-, but no doubt the synth sounds of korgs > >are much better- they're heavier, fatter. You can improve the drums of your N a lot by altering the RAM drumkit setups. I agree that the GM drumkits on the N aren't very nice though. > >now i was wondering if i should buy a small sound module- like soundcanvas, > >for about U$200,00 and use it together with my n364. then i would have both > >korg and roland sounds... Is it worthy? does someone uses something like that? If you can get a great-sounding module that completes your music setup for as little as $200, then go ahead and buy it!

In a message dated 98-02-26 00:55:02 EST, you write: << >i dont know if you agree with me, but i heard a soundcanvas from roland at a >friend's house and some sounds seemed much better than korg's - the acoustic >sounds like saxophone or piano, or even the power drums- korg's drums seem >they are being heard through a pipe-, but no doubt the synth sounds of korgs >are much better- they're heavier, fatter. You can improve the drums of your N a lot by altering the RAM drumkit setups. I agree that the GM drumkits on the N aren't very nice though. >> no korg drums are good-korg is good for sweeping sounds-synth sounds-etc... drums-are not korg's greatest area!!!!!at all!

But what is the cost of a Korg N in Spain? :-) Tom

> > well, the N is n't GS-compatible, says the manual. has anyone found a > > way to play midi GS files by converting the patches on the fly? it Disabling Bank Changes is one easy way that usually works. jg.

> > Please forgive my ignorance, can I use two or more instruments on a > > pattern? Thanks for you help. Yes. You need to set up Seq mode like a Combi - with different tracks set to the SAME MIDI channel, and with key windows set. Or, if you want to layer the pattern, just set up different tracks to the same MIDI channel, with different sounds. jg.

At 01:00 26-2-98 EST, you wrote: > >In a message dated 98-02-26 00:55:02 EST, you write: > > > ><< >i dont know if you agree with me, but i heard a soundcanvas from roland at > >a >> > >friend's house and some sounds seemed much better than korg's - the acoustic >> > >sounds like saxophone or piano, or even the power drums- korg's drums seem >> > >they are being heard through a pipe-, but no doubt the synth sounds of korgs >> > >are much better- they're heavier, fatter. > > > > You can improve the drums of your N a lot by altering the RAM drumkit > > setups. I agree that the GM drumkits on the N aren't very nice though. > > >> > >no korg drums are good-korg is good for sweeping sounds-synth sounds-etc... > >drums-are not korg's greatest area!!!!!at all! I do not agree. A friend of my has an Roland XP-50, and we both think that the N-drumkits are better. Maybe it is just what you like, Roland drums have much high frequencies. (all Roland sounds have added high) I like the modern/productivity kits from Korg. (a whole lot of bassdrums/snares in one kit !) The GM kits are maybe less good. The Power drum kit uses early reflection, that is the tube-like sound you heared. (much used by Phill Collins) But most probably, you can expect better drum kits from the more expansive sound modules (EMU ?). BTW: I agree that most of the acoustic sounds from Roland are better... Greetz, Fedde Bouwman

At 12:46 26-2-98 +0100, you wrote: > >At 01:00 26-2-98 EST, you wrote: >> >>In a message dated 98-02-26 00:55:02 EST, you write: >> >> >> >><< >i dont know if you agree with me, but i heard a soundcanvas from > >roland at >> >>a >>> >> >friend's house and some sounds seemed much better than korg's - the > >acoustic >>> >> >sounds like saxophone or piano, or even the power drums- korg's drums seem >>> >> >they are being heard through a pipe-, but no doubt the synth sounds of > >korgs >>> >> >are much better- they're heavier, fatter. >> >> >> >> You can improve the drums of your N a lot by altering the RAM drumkit >> >> setups. I agree that the GM drumkits on the N aren't very nice though. >> >> >> >> >>no korg drums are good-korg is good for sweeping sounds-synth sounds-etc... >> >>drums-are not korg's greatest area!!!!!at all! > >I do not agree. > >A friend of my has an Roland XP-50, and we both think that the N-drumkits > >are better. Maybe it is just what you like, Roland drums have much high > >frequencies. (all Roland sounds have added high) > > > >I like the modern/productivity kits from Korg. (a whole lot of > >bassdrums/snares in one kit !) > >The GM kits are maybe less good. The Power drum kit uses early reflection, > >that is the tube-like sound you heared. (much used by Phill Collins) > >But most probably, you can expect better drum kits from the more expansive > >sound modules (EMU ?). > > > >BTW: I agree that most of the acoustic sounds from Roland are better... > > > >Greetz, > > > >Fedde Bouwman > > I am sorry I had enabled the option read notification request. I wanted to test that feature. I expected to receive an notification from the server, but it seems that it doesn't work that way...

does anyone know of it's possible to copy to banks c or d??? other than re-initializing the keyboard that is....

At 12:31 26-2-98 -0500, you wrote: > >does anyone know of it's possible to copy to banks c or d??? other than > >re-initializing the keyboard that is.... > > Banks C&D are in ROM, so it isn't possible !

> > one example of how I use that arp. I go into seq mode, then down to arp > > mode, hit rec, start and simply record arpeggio (up, down, skip 1 or > > whatever else mode, doesn't actually matter) into seq. which quantizes > it pretty nicely. By playing with different arp speeds and quantize > > values one can get some pretty funky and weird patterns. And I mean > > some awesome, funky, and weird patterns. Now, vary the velocity of the > > notes, make different sounds (programs) play different parts of the > > pattern (sounds especially good for 4 octave arpeggios), add some > > extreme effects, and you got one hell of a groove! Dmitry, I haven't really gotten into the arp yet but have followed some of the talk here. This thought struck me and it's probably way off base but if you can put it into the sequencer, can you control the speed through the sequencer tempo. If so, couldn't one copy that song at the right speed into a song where you wanted the arp to sinc? Wouldn't that solve the problem? I'll probably get slammed on this one but, what the heck, brainstorming gets a lot done in the world so I'll shoot it out there. Tom

Hi all, I find all these messages with a subject of "Prices in Spain" annoying. There's nothing relevant in the messages to do with Spain. Please change the heading to something meaningful when you create a new message! Peter

At 12:31 26/02/98 -0500, you wrote: > >does anyone know of it's possible to copy to banks c or d??? other than > >re-initializing the keyboard that is.... > > Banks c and d are rom banks. You can't write on it. Grok.

I just want to comment on N364's arpeggiator. This arpeggiator is one of the best thing I like about my N. It is so unique, so unsyncable! Yes, I acknowledge the fact that it might be somewhat difficult to use live together with other instruments, however, it is capable of producing some pretty interesting stuff that you won't be able to get otherwise. Here is one example of how I use that arp. I go into seq mode, then down to arp mode, hit rec, start and simply record arpeggio (up, down, skip 1 or whatever else mode, doesn't actually matter) into seq. which quantizes it pretty nicely. By playing with different arp speeds and quantize values one can get some pretty funky and weird patterns. And I mean some awesome, funky, and weird patterns. Now, vary the velocity of the notes, make different sounds (programs) play different parts of the pattern (sounds especially good for 4 octave arpeggios), add some extreme effects, and you got one hell of a groove! I like how Z1's and Kawai's K5K's syncable polyphonic arpeggiators sound, but somehow I never use them. N does ALL the "arpeggio" job for me. Dmitry

hi everybody! sorry to bother you again, but i'm still not sure of what kind of equipment i should buy for my keyboard. i decided to buy a microsystem , with a receiver and a cassete recorder- nothing more, for the health of my pocket. this should cost about u$ 200-300-400. Now i dont know some 'details', like for example: how many Watts the system should have? i know how much more, the better, but i want the speakers only for my room, so i dont need volume, but quality. another thing: when we say a receiver is 100W, that means that its power consumption is 100W? and it sends 50W for each speaker?do you think a receiver of 46W (rms) with two speakers of, lets say, 30W is enough to have a good quality sound, without distortion or undefined sounds? another thing: is the internal equalizer important? are 3-band enough? has anyone heard of companies like sony and philips in this kind of equipments? i know they exist, but are they good? another curiosity: does someone now how can i convert from PMPO to RMS? im sorry that my e-mail is like a questionary, but you're my only source of information. here in my city (and it's quite a big city-a couple of million habitants) we dont have shops and professionals to deal with it. so any help will be appreciated. thank you, beny

Thomas Barrett wrote, > > if > >you can put it into the sequencer, can you control the speed through the > >sequencer tempo. If so, couldn't one copy that song at the right speed > >into a song where you wanted the arp to sinc? Wouldn't that solve the > >problem? As far as I'm concerned, you can't directly control the arpeggiator's speed with the sequencer. However, you can match arp's speed and seq tempo, so that the procedure you've described, Tom, can be more or less accomplished. I think, if you set your seq tempo to 120, quantize resolution to, say, 1/8 note and arpeggiator speed to something like 48 (speed 48 pretty much corresponds to the 8th note at 120 bpm), and record, that should give you some decent "synchronization", although this is not exactly how I use it. For me, the best part is when seq is trying to quantize arpeggio which doesn't match its tempo and drifts (I usually make my arpeggio run ~2 times faster than seq's 8th note), cutting out some notes, stretching others, and creating some really interesting patterns (works really well for techno stuff). Dmitry

Beny Lederman wrote: > > > > hi everybody! > > sorry to bother you again, but i'm still not sure of what kind of equipment > > i should buy for my keyboard. > > > > i decided to buy a microsystem , with a receiver and a cassete recorder- > > nothing more, for the health of my pocket. this should cost about u$ > > 200-300-400. Now i dont know some 'details', like for example: how many > > Watts the system should have? i know how much more, the better, but i want > > the speakers only for my room, so i dont need volume, but quality. another > > thing: when we say a receiver is 100W, that means that its power consumption > > is 100W? and it sends 50W for each speaker?do you think a receiver of 46W > > (rms) with two speakers of, lets say, 30W is enough to have a good quality > > sound, without distortion or undefined sounds? Good amps are rated at Watts per channel. If you don't intend to provide music for the entire neighborhood, 50 watts rms per channel will do fine. It depends on the kind if load you intend to drive. Small speakers that don't require a lot of power to drive don't require a huge amp to do it. A 100 watt rms per channel amplifier does not draw 200 watts continuously. It only draws the power required to run its circuits plus whatever power it is required to put to the speakers. The louder you play it, the more power it consumes. > > > > another thing: is the internal equalizer important? are 3-band enough? That's just a matter of taste and what your hearing requirements are. If the overall frequency range of the sustem is good, it won't make a lot of difference but you just won't have that much control over the tonal range. > > > > has anyone heard of companies like sony and philips in this kind of > > equipments? i know they exist, but are they good? They both have good and bad equipment and they are both well known. > > > > another curiosity: does someone now how can i convert from PMPO to RMS? This is a trick question. Any amp that gives "PMPO" for its rating isn't worth the powder to blow it to hell with. Peak Music Power Output is a method of inflating wattage of an amp way beyond what it truly is. What they normally do to arrive at this ridiculous number is take the peak output (which is about 20% higher than the rms value), double it and then, if it's a stereo amp, double it again. The impedance of the load is also a factor. If the PMPO is given for a 4 ohm load and you're using 8 ohm speakers, then the PMPO is divided in half. This gives a very high number (using a 4 ohm load) but the amp can only sustain it for a few microseconds before scattering itself. To convert this number to true rms per channel, you need to reverse their idiotic formula. Even then it may not be the correct number. See how they added up the numbers, divide as indicated above and then multiply the resultant "peak power" for one channel by .8 to give the RMS value. You can then divide that number in half if the load is 8 ohms instead of 4. An example: An amplifier is rated at 200 watts PMPO into 4 ohms, both channels driven. Reality: Divide 200 by 2 to get the PMPO of 1 channel. That gives 100 watts. Divide it by 2 again because they double it, claiming that the amp can supply twice it's rated value on peaks. That drops it to 50 watts peak into 4 ohms for each channel. Multiply 50 times .8 to get the RMS value and you get 40 watts RMS per channel into 4 ohms or 20 watts RMS per channel into 8 ohms. They above may not be exact but it gives a pretty fair idea of how they inflate the numbers and you should always go by the RMS watts per channel into 8 ohms to get the true power of the amp. Hope this answers some of your questions. Steve

Beny, Listen to Steve on this one. PMPO AMPS ARE GARBAGE!! Been there, done that!!!!!!! Good advise Steve; wish I had some of your knowledge. Constantly workin on that tho. Tom

steven: thanks for your answers. how do you know so much? now let me reformulate one of my questions, which was indeed not clear: if a receiver doesn't have in any place written how many Watts it is, but in its rear its written 'power consumption 60W', it is what we call a 60W amplifier? and it sends 30 W per channel? and another thing i forgot to ask: are the speakers that come with the systems usually good enough? they dont say how many Watts they are... beny

Beny Lederman wrote: > > > > steven: thanks for your answers. how do you know so much? Part of it comes from being old and the other part comes from the days when I used to repair stereo and TV's. :) > > > > now let me reformulate one of my questions, which was indeed not clear: if a > > receiver doesn't have in any place written how many Watts it is, but in its > > rear its written 'power consumption 60W', it is what we call a 60W > > amplifier? and it sends 30 W per channel? The power consumption, written in that manner, is the power required to run the device. It has nothing to do with the total watts that the amplifier can produce. If the amp contains an inefficient power supply, and other components, it will consume more power than a good amp, putting out the same wattage. The actual output power (total of both channels combined) will always be somewhat less than the power consumption listed on the back. As an example, the ratings of my amp are: 100 watts per channel, min. RMS both channels driven into 8 ohms from 20Hz to 20kHz with no more than .007% total harmonic distortion. The power total consumption is 370 watts. As you can see, the amp requires 370 watts of input power to produce 200 watts of output power. > > and another thing i forgot to ask: are the speakers that come with the > > systems usually good enough? they dont say how many Watts they are... Speakers that come with with systems are usually pretty well balanced for the system they are attached to. That doesn't mean they are good speakers and it doesn't mean that a more efficient pair of speakers in the same wattage range wouldn't make the setup sound much better. When buying complete systems, you have to balance where the money is being put to keep the cost down. If it's a well balanced system, the money should be split across all components to give a good system. Some of them put all the money into the amp/radio portion and skip on the speakers because people will buy it for the fancy features offered, rather than how it really sounds when they get it home. To all those on the list. If this is of no interest to the rest of you, we will take it to email and I'll be happy to answer any questions I can. Steve

Steve, I find the dialogue quite interesting. No need to move on my part. Tom

At 20:23 1998-02-27 -0400, Dmitry wrote: > >I just want to comment on N364's arpeggiator. > >By playing with different arp speeds and quantize values one > >can get some pretty funky and weird patterns. And I mean some awesome, > >funky, and weird patterns. Now, vary the velocity of the notes, make > >different sounds (programs) play different parts of the pattern (sounds > >especially good for 4 octave arpeggios), add some extreme effects, and you > >got one hell of a groove! This sounds very interesting! So, the arpeggiator isn't useless after all. :)

At 00:58 1998-02-28 -0300, Beny Lederman wrote: > >another thing: is the internal equalizer important? are 3-band enough? You can use it as a low/mid/high-pass filter, which is useful sometimes. If you want more control of the sound, get an external equalizer.

At 01:00 1998-02-26 -0500, Ted Scheriff Jr. wrote: > >no korg drums are good-korg is good for sweeping sounds-synth sounds-etc... > >drums-are not korg's greatest area!!!!!at all! I don't agree. There are several drum sounds that sound real good. Listen carefully to ALL drum samples in the N, and I'm sure you'll find several goodies. Many of the snares aren't too great, but some of them sound a lot better at a different pitch. There are no good preset techno kits, but it's possible to do one. Mine sounds ok. The GM kits suck hard, but there are other kits that are better. B19 Combo Kit is fine after a bit of customising. Customise, customise, customise. :)

At 14:43 1998-02-26 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote: > >I am sorry I had enabled the option read notification request. I wanted to > >test that feature. I expected to receive an notification from the server, > >but it seems that it doesn't work that way... Don't you receive a copy of your sent mail from the server? Everybody should, unless the mail server has gone haywire... There are also other ways to receive notification from the server, telling you that your mail has been delivered. Contact me privatly for more information, or request info from the server itself.

At 18:17 1998-02-22 -0500, Ted Scheriff Jr. wrote: > >i use cakewalk---(i know you dont, but) > >can i use this to effect one or two tracks without effecting the rest-- > >perhaps if the rest of my sequence consists of drums/strings/bass/etc... > >if i do this to emulate a filter sound on say, a square or saw...would it > >effect the other sounds??? Use Parallell3 as effect placement in seq edit page 7E. If you put the overdrive as effect 1, then set send C (seq edit page 1A) to 0 for instruments that aren't to be affected.

At 03:14 1998-02-23 +0100, Roger Espel Llima wrote: > >How does one send GM reset messages from Cakewalk? If you're using a new version of Cakewalk (I don't know how it's done on older versions), you can open the sysex window (View/Sysex) and load "gmsystem.syx" into one of the available slots. Change the port number to the midi port that you control your N with, and set the auto flag. This settings is saved with the current song. The next time you load the song, Cakewalk will ask if it shall send the sysex messages that are stored with the song. Answer yes to that question, and the N will be put in seq mode song 9. You could also create the same sysex event and put it in one of the tracks. > >And how does one use the other program banks, and select patches in them? Download KorgN364.ins from ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001. It's in a zip file that I can't remember the name of, but "instrument"-something I think... I've done a new .ins file (N364.ins) in which I've combined the best from KorgN264.ins and KorgN364.ins, which I'll probably make available pretty soon. Please notice that one of the present .ins files doesn't have a full midi controller implementation. I think it is KorgN264.ins. > >And finally.. before I start really learning Cakewalk, is that a good > >choice? or should I try cubase instead? I've used both Cubase 3.5 VST and Cakewalk Pro Audio 6. Cakewalk might be harder to use for beginners, but it has more functions and is more powerful. Cubase looks better, but Cakewalk works better. After getting into Cakewalk, I don't want to use Cubase again.

At 23:07 1998-02-22 -0500, Alan Moore wrote: > >Color is minimally usefull in making sounds nasal, I've found, which is good > >sometimes for stuff like clav or lead sounds, but once again, why not just put > >a HPF in there? Why did they go to the trouble of inventing some parameter > >that nobody has heard of before that doesn't do much? Nobody knows. Perhaps "N-files" can give us answers? :) > >It'd be cool, too if I could modulate that resonant wha with the LFO or it's > >own envelope, which is what bums me out about it being an effect. I think joystick control is better, since it offers unlimited variation. > >BTW, I read a review about the Z1 in Electronic Musician. Sounds like a > >killer machine. I was thinking about adding a yamaha an1x to my rig (when I > >get that million dollar record deal--pshaw!), but maybe the Z1 would be > >cooler....hmmmm... The AN1-X is cheaper, but perhaps the Z1 is cooler? Have only listened to the AN1-X, and it sounded marvellous.

At 20:44 1998-02-23 -0800, Hasnat M wrote: > >An Amateur q probably.... I am hearing about these sound modules, what > >exactly are they and how they work? Basically, a sound module is a small synthesizer without keys. In order to make it sound, you must use an external keyboard (or sequencer) and MIDI cables. It usually has an LCD display and a set of buttons (just like a full-size synth) so it can be programmed. The Korg NS5R is a sound module (which more or less is a small version of the N1/N5). The Korg Trinity is available in sound module version soon. A sound module is always cheaper than its full-size counterpart. And it doesn't take up much space.

At 00:17 1998-02-24 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: >> >>That settles it. I'll go rip the mainboard out of a Trinity and integrate >> >>it with my N364, to make it provide 64 voice polyphony! :) > > > >lol, just remember to send one this way aswell if you ever accomplish that:) Hmm.. come to think of it, it'll be a lot easier (and probably cheaper aswell) to buy the sound module version of the Trinity. :)

At 00:26 1998-02-24 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: >>> >>>I have to clear the memory of the n364 everytime i use external sequencers or >>> >>>it just doesnt play right(this happens to me in both cakewalk and windows >>> >>>media player btw) >> >> >> >>Very strange. I've been using all sorts of midi players and sequencers >> >>(including Cubasis/Cubase/Cakewalk) in win95, and it always plays right. >> >>And I've got several of the songs in the internal sequencer filled with >> >>data... >> >>What is it that is played wrong? Wrong programs? Then it's probably a >> >>filter setting in global edit mode on your N. > > > >Could be, I dont really mess around with the global settings often as I dont > >really know how to configure things yet. What happens tho is it'll sometimes > >default to the programs in the n364 memory instead of playing the channels that > >are sent to the n364-i have to clear the memory and sometimes even manually > >set the channels on the n364. This happens with Gm/GS tunes-it rarely plays > >them right. Even when I load them into the n364 I get the same problems at > >times Oh, now I see. The Nx64 will always go back to its default program settings (such as GM Piano 1 with level 100) when you press reset on the Nx64, and in some other circumstances aswell (like when switching songs in the internal sequencer I think?). This is because programs/level/sendC&D etc settings aren't stored in the N if they come from an external sequencer. These settings are only temporary, which infact is a good idea. They will also be reset when you switch off the N and switch it on again. If you manually set programs/level/etc it will be permanent though. Some GM songs use the wrong programs (i.e. they don't use the GM sounds they're supposed to). This is easily fixed by changing a few parameters in global mode. Take a careful look at the table on page 43 in the Basic Guide ("Chapter 10: Playing GM Songs"). Especially 3C Program Change Filter ENA/NUM. Try set it to NUM, and the GM song should play correctly. Beware that you can only play GM sounds when the filter is set to NUM though.

At 12:30 1998-02-24 +0100, Thomas Lawergren wrote: > >I've succesfully created a few "mixer"-maps in Cubase for the N364, they > >include things like volume, pan, bend-range, VCF-cutoff, attack, release > >etc. Could you please send a map to me? I took a quick look at DMaker and didn't run it again. :) Perhaps you could upload the Cubase mixermap for the Nx64 to ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/uploads ? > >But, how do I do the following from Cubase/MIDI when the N364 is in > >sequencer-mode: > > > >a) Set a track to a different MIDI-channel? Non-realtime sysex perhaps, but I'm not sure if it's possible. > >b) Create a mixer-map that controls the effects? I've tried to find a sysex command that sets which effect to use in sequencer mode, but I haven't found anything. The MIDI implementation charts don't mention effect settings in conjunction with sequencer mode... I hope somebody finds out how to do this. It would definately be nice to be able to set fx 1 & 2 from an external sequencer... > >Help me please, I'm getting sick of this trial and error... Try your luck with Korg support (*@*.com). They should have the answer, but I have my doubts. ;)

At 20:10 1998-02-24 -0800, Hasnat M wrote: > >Some software q to be exact?!? what is an Editor/Librarian? An editor/librarian is used to edit and/or store programs & songs from synthesizers. With an N-specific external editor, it would be possible to edit program parameters on your N using your computer. And with an N-specific librarian it would be possible to audition/send a single (or several) program/combi to the N via midi. Unfortunately there is no N-specific editor/librarian yet, but development is under way.

> >At 20:44 1998-02-23 -0800, Hasnat M wrote: > > >> >>An Amateur q probably.... I am hearing about these sound modules, what >> >>exactly are they and how they work? > > > >Basically, a sound module is a small synthesizer without keys. In order to > >make it sound, you must use an external keyboard (or sequencer) and MIDI > >cables. > > > >It usually has an LCD display and a set of buttons (just like a full-size > >synth) so it can be programmed. > > > >The Korg NS5R is a sound module (which more or less is a small version of > >the N1/N5). The Korg Trinity is available in sound module version soon. > > > >A sound module is always cheaper than its full-size counterpart. And it > >doesn't take up much space. Sounds superb. Can u hook up any sound module fm any manufacturer (Roland/EMU/Yamaha...) to the N and get sounds.... How much do they usally costs....something like the NS5R? Hasnat

Kenneth Jonsson writes: > > An editor/librarian is used to edit and/or store programs & songs from > > synthesizers. With an N-specific external editor, it would be possible to > > edit program parameters on your N using your computer. And with an > > N-specific librarian it would be possible to audition/send a single (or > > several) program/combi to the N via midi. > > Unfortunately there is no N-specific editor/librarian yet, but development > > is under way. I keep hearing rumors that "development is under way." Who is doing this development? What are the plans for completion? What language is being used? Can I help? I'm a programmer (mostly C/C++) and I've been thinking of trying my hand at a more serious Visual Basic project to learn it in more depth. Maybe this would be a good application. But I don't really want to duplicate any efforts if something is coming out soon. John (John.*@*.com)

I use my N-264 as the MIDI input to my Pentium 60 (Windows 95) with Finale, Cakewalk Pro, and Jammer Pro. The problem is with Finale (version 2.2). After I use the program once or twice, the fonts go haywire. The treble clef sign turns into an ampersand, quarter notes turn into capital "I's" that cover the entire staff. I must remove and reinstall Finale in order for it to work again. I have found that the Finale instructions must be removed from the Win.ini file for the reinstall to cure the problem. Has anyone encountered this problem before? If not, do you know of a source that could provide insight into the resolution? I will not be able to upgrade Finale until late this year, so I am anxious to resolve this problem. Thanks for any help you could provide!

At 23.39 +0100 98-03-01, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: >> >>I've succesfully created a few "mixer"-maps in Cubase for the N364, they >> >>include things like volume, pan, bend-range, VCF-cutoff, attack, release >> >>etc. > > > >Could you please send a map to me? I took a quick look at DMaker and didn't > >run it again. :) DMaker? Eh, que? I created them in Cubase directly, I guess that DMaker is some sort of PC-program that ships with Cubase right? > >Perhaps you could upload the Cubase mixermap for the Nx64 to > >ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/uploads ? Yes I can do that, when I figure out the thing about setting the pitch-bend, somehow it's all screwed up. >> >>But, how do I do the following from Cubase/MIDI when the N364 is in >> >>sequencer-mode: >> >> >> >>a) Set a track to a different MIDI-channel? > > > >Non-realtime sysex perhaps, but I'm not sure if it's possible. Would be great for layering sounds though ;-) >> >>b) Create a mixer-map that controls the effects? > > > >I've tried to find a sysex command that sets which effect to use in > >sequencer mode, but I haven't found anything. The MIDI implementation > >charts don't mention effect settings in conjunction with sequencer mode... > > > >I hope somebody finds out how to do this. It would definately be nice to be > >able to set fx 1 & 2 from an external sequencer... Well, here's a little tip for you. Set up all of the internal songs after a special "format". I have reverb and chorus as effects in the first song (0), reverb and distorsion in the second (1) and so forth. This gives me the opportunity to simply switch song (from within Cubase of course) and have different effects. (Yes, my mixermap contains a "song-selector".) >> >>Help me please, I'm getting sick of this trial and error... > > > >Try your luck with Korg support (*@*.com). They should > >have the answer, but I have my doubts. ;) Ok, mailed there just a few seconds ago... Regards L a v i s E - m a i l: *@*.se

At 21.45 +0100 98-03-01, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > >Many of the snares aren't too great, but some of them sound a lot better at > >a different pitch. > > > >There are no good preset techno kits, but it's possible to do one. Mine > >sounds ok. The GM kits suck hard, but there are other kits that are better. > >B19 Combo Kit is fine after a bit of customising. I don't agree that the totally suck. Try them with a bit of distorsion/overdrive, record them in VST and pitch-correct them, but then it isn't GM anymore is it ;-) > >Customise, customise, customise. :) Yep, does a lot of good to my sounds too... Regards L a v i s E - m a i l: *@*.se

At 17:33 1998-03-01 -0800, Hasnat M wrote: >> >>A sound module is always cheaper than its full-size counterpart. And it >> >>doesn't take up much space. > > > >Sounds superb. Can u hook up any sound module fm any manufacturer > >(Roland/EMU/Yamaha...) to the N and get sounds.... How much do they > >usally costs....something like the NS5R? You can hook any sound module from any manufacturer to any MIDI controlling device, since they're all controlled by MIDI. You can use your N, a computer, an external sequencer or anything else that transmits MIDI data, to control the sound module. A general rule is that if there is a full-size version of the sound module, the sound module is cheaper (else there would be little point for the manufacturers to construct one). But there are also synthesizers who only come as a sound module (I believe this is the case with Virus by Access), and they can be very expensive. A standard Roland Sound Canvas sound module seems to be very cheap, but I don't know much about general sound module pricing....

At 07:46 1998-03-02 -0500, John Schulz wrote: > >I keep hearing rumors that "development is under way." Who is doing this > >development? What are the plans for completion? What language is being > >used? Can I help? I'm a programmer (mostly C/C++) and I've been thinking of > >trying my hand at a more serious Visual Basic project to learn it in more > >depth. Maybe this would be a good application. But I don't really want to > >duplicate any efforts if something is coming out soon. There seems to be a need to tell everybody on this list what's going on: KORG N-specific program developers and their current projects: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Description: PCG reader which shows parameters. Developer: Greg Babineau (*@*.com) OS: All, but especially Win95 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Description: PCG reader which shows paramterers, soon also with MIDI I/O. Developer: Peter Lazarus (*@*.com) OS: Win95 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Description: PCG librarian with MIDI I/O. Developer: Jordi Contreras Sune (*@*.url.es) OS: MSDOS ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg and Peter have come a bit on the way, but I don't know Jordi's progress. Right now it seems like all projects are a bit on the ice though. Greg, Peter and Jordi: could you let people on the list know how far you've gotten? Oh, and John, you're very welcome to join these programmers! So are everybody else on this list who have some programming experience. I keep a list of who is doing what and for which OS, as you can see above. Contact me and I'll have you added to that list (not a separate mailing list, just a textfile). If you really feel like embarking on a programming journey, do an editor/librarian with MIDI I/O. The faster there is one ready, the better. :)

Thanx a lot Ken for the info.. Hasnat > > >>> >>>A sound module is always cheaper than its full-size counterpart. And it >>> >>>doesn't take up much space. >> >> >> >>Sounds superb. Can u hook up any sound module fm any manufacturer >> >>(Roland/EMU/Yamaha...) to the N and get sounds.... How much do they >> >>usally costs....something like the NS5R? > > > >You can hook any sound module from any manufacturer to any MIDI controlling > >device, since they're all controlled by MIDI. You can use your N, a > >computer, an external sequencer or anything else that transmits MIDI data, > >to control the sound module. > > > >A general rule is that if there is a full-size version of the sound module, > >the sound module is cheaper (else there would be little point for the > >manufacturers to construct one). But there are also synthesizers who only > >come as a sound module (I believe this is the case with Virus by Access), > >and they can be very expensive. > > > >A standard Roland Sound Canvas sound module seems to be very cheap, but I > >don't know much about general sound module pricing....

At 23:31 1998-03-02 +0100, Thomas Lawergren wrote: > >I guess that DMaker is some sort of PC-program that ships with Cubase right? This is what its help file says: "DMaker is the application required to create and update the device drivers used with the Studio Module of Cubase. All device drivers provided with the Studio Module have been done with DMaker." It's freeware for win95 (only?) and is downloadable from Steinberg's site. >> >>It would definately be nice to be >> >>able to set fx 1 & 2 from an external sequencer... > > > >Well, here's a little tip for you. Set up all of the internal songs after a > >special "format". I have reverb and chorus as effects in the first song > >(0), reverb and distorsion in the second (1) and so forth. This gives me > >the opportunity to simply switch song (from within Cubase of course) and > >have different effects. (Yes, my mixermap contains a "song-selector".) Thanks for the idea, but I have two reasons why I can't do that: 1. All songs in the internal sequencer are occupied (I use the internal sequencer as a quick "musical sketch pad"). 2. I often use pretty odd fx settings, so I would still have to do changes to the songs manually... But, thanks again. >> >>Try your luck with Korg support (*@*.com). They should >> >>have the answer, but I have my doubts. ;) > > > >Ok, mailed there just a few seconds ago... Feel free to let us all know if you get a reply... I sent the same question to Korg support myself, but they still haven't answered. Perhaps if everybody on this list sent mail to Korg about this topic, they might have to answer...

At 19.23 +0100 98-03-04, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: >> >>I guess that DMaker is some sort of PC-program that ships with Cubase >> >>right? > > > >This is what its help file says: > > > >"DMaker is the application required to create and update the device drivers > >used with the Studio Module of Cubase. All device drivers provided with the > >Studio Module have been done with DMaker." > > > >It's freeware for win95 (only?) and is downloadable from Steinberg's site. Ok, I believe that "Studio Modules" are PC-specific, the Mac version doesn't use them at all. On the Mac you simply connect to Cubase itself or via OMS (Open Music System). The maps I'm talking about are straight "MIDI-Maps" and I believe that they are the same for both platforms. (Please correct me if I'm wrong!) -----[snip]----- >>> >>>Try your luck with Korg support (*@*.com). They >>> >>>should >>> >>>have the answer, but I have my doubts. ;) >> >> >> >>Ok, mailed there just a few seconds ago... > > > >Feel free to let us all know if you get a reply... > > > >I sent the same question to Korg support myself, but they still haven't > >answered. Perhaps if everybody on this list sent mail to Korg about this > >topic, they might have to answer... Yes, I got a reply, real fast too, but it's useless 8-P Here it goes: "I wish I could get more specific, but the info is in fact in the MIDI implementation chart. The heavy phone work we do here does allow us the necessary time to write entire SysEx files. I can tell you that the channel thing won't happen, because you can't change the channel of a track on the fly in any scenario.. it would defeat the purpose of having channels in the first place.. " "It would defeat the purpose of having channels in the first place.." Xcuse me? The MIDI implemantation clearly states that each tracks MIDI-channel is configurable (and you can change them manually via the control panel on the Nx64 as well) but it doesn't say how to do it via an external MIDI-source. It doesn't say anything about controlling the sequencer-specific parameters. I'm confused, how about you? ;-) Regards L a v i s E - m a i l: *@*.se

Hello, I am wondering about how to get the Qubase VST to sync with N364. How do I configure them to work together? I want to control the "start" and "stop" on the N364 from Qubase VST and I don´t seem to get it going. No other problem except I can´t get the syntheziser to start playing after starting a song in the the Qubase VST. What parameters do I have to change to get this functional. I know that something has to change in the dialog box "audio", "system" and the Global menu on the N364. How do I make them work together? Leif

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Thomas Lawergren wrote: > > > > At 19.23 +0100 98-03-04, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > >>> > >>I guess that DMaker is some sort of PC-program that ships with Cubase >>> > >>right? >> > > >> > >This is what its help file says: >> > > >> > >"DMaker is the application required to create and update the device drivers >> > >used with the Studio Module of Cubase. All device drivers provided with the >> > >Studio Module have been done with DMaker." >> > > >> > >It's freeware for win95 (only?) and is downloadable from Steinberg's site. > > > > Ok, I believe that "Studio Modules" are PC-specific, the Mac version > > doesn't use them at all. On the Mac you simply connect to Cubase itself or > > via OMS (Open Music System). > > > > The maps I'm talking about are straight "MIDI-Maps" and I believe that they > > are the same for both platforms. (Please correct me if I'm wrong!) > > > > -----[snip]----- > > >>>> > >>>Try your luck with Korg support (*@*.com). They >>>> > >>>should >>>> > >>>have the answer, but I have my doubts. ;) >>> > >> >>> > >>Ok, mailed there just a few seconds ago... >> > > >> > >Feel free to let us all know if you get a reply... >> > > >> > >I sent the same question to Korg support myself, but they still haven't >> > >answered. Perhaps if everybody on this list sent mail to Korg about this >> > >topic, they might have to answer... > > > > Yes, I got a reply, real fast too, but it's useless 8-P > > > > Here it goes: > > > > "I wish I could get more specific, but the info is in fact in the MIDI > > implementation chart. The heavy phone work we do here does allow us the > > necessary time to write entire SysEx files. I can tell you that the > > channel thing won't happen, because you can't change the channel of a > > track on the fly in any scenario.. it would defeat the purpose of having > > channels in the first place.. " > > > > "It would defeat the purpose of having channels in the first place.." > > > > Xcuse me? > > > > The MIDI implemantation clearly states that each tracks MIDI-channel is > > configurable (and you can change them manually via the control panel on the > > Nx64 as well) but it doesn't say how to do it via an external MIDI-source. > > It doesn't say anything about controlling the sequencer-specific parameters. > > > > I'm confused, how about you? ;-) > > > > Regards > > > > L a v i s > > > > E - m a i l: *@*.se Hey you guys, a while back as we discussed the inadequacies of the manuals, particularly the charts covering MIDI implementation, someone really hit the nail on the head. The statement went something like this, "Seems the firmware is a bit shy of firm." It's pretty sad that KORG support can do no better than what has been offered! To take it a step further, it's pretty sad that KORG doesn't firm up the less than firm firmware." OK, I'm done again... Tom :)

Leif Lund wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I am wondering about how to get the Qubase VST to sync with N364. How > > do I configure them to work together? I want to control the "start" > > and "stop" on the N364 from Qubase VST and I don´t seem to get it > > going. No other problem except I can´t get the syntheziser to start > > playing after starting a song in the the Qubase VST. What parameters > > do I have to change to get this functional. I know that something has > > to change in the dialog box "audio", "system" and the Global menu on > > the N364. How do I make them work together? > > > > Leif Leif, I think we've established that you shouldn't read the manual or contact KORG support. Someone here might be able to help though. :) Tom

On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > At 07:46 1998-03-02 -0500, John Schulz wrote: > > >> > >I keep hearing rumors that "development is under way." Who is doing this >> > >development? What are the plans for completion? What language is being >> > >used? Can I help? I'm a programmer (mostly C/C++) and I've been thinking of >> > >trying my hand at a more serious Visual Basic project to learn it in more >> > >depth. Maybe this would be a good application. But I don't really want to >> > >duplicate any efforts if something is coming out soon. > > > > Greg, Peter and Jordi: could you let people on the list know how far you've > > gotten? I still want to program to program the Patch Library, but there are some things i have reconsidered. Since I own a Gravis Ultrasound Card, which i programmed in MSDOS to access MIDI I/O, i was needing to start programming others devices, such as Sound Blaster or MPU. It would be very hard to develop MIDI I/O drivers for each of these cards, because i don't have the MPU and i find it hard to find good info on the SB. So, I finally decided I should do the program in Windows, but although I know C and C++, there are many new things I have to learn. Meanwhile, I keep on playing with the Gravis Card and the synth, sending some sysex's and reading the PCG's (the little I know). The main problem is I hardly find time to do it... though I try to think in coding the Library as a practice of the subject in which I learn programming... :) Ill try to go on as soon i have holidays... Jordi.

While everyone is waiting for a specific N364 editer to come out, everyone should download xedit. Ive been using it for a few months now and it works great(granted I just have the shareware and can only edit the 2'nd oscilater). Also the librarian is a great feature to have, makes things a breeze when organizing all your sounds.Just configure it so it thinks you have an X3 and it should work without probs on the n364(does for me anyways). I dont have a url but a simple yahoo search should turn it up. regards Steve Wallis *@*.net

At 02.53 +0100 98-03-05, Leif Lund wrote: > > Hello, I am wondering about how to get the Qubase VST to sync with > >N364. How do I configure them to work together? I want to control the > >"start" and "stop" on the N364 from Qubase VST and I don´t seem to get it > >going. No other problem except I can´t get the syntheziser to start > >playing after starting a song in the the Qubase VST. What parameters do I > >have to change to get this functional. I know that something has to > >change in the dialog box "audio", "system" and the Global menu on the > >N364. How do I make them work together? Leif Display 3A, Global Menu, in the N364 should read CLOCK = EXT. Regards L a v i s E - m a i l: *@*.se

At 07:46 2/03/98 EST, you wrote: > >Kenneth Jonsson writes: >> >> An editor/librarian is used to edit and/or store programs & songs from >> >> synthesizers. With an N-specific external editor, it would be possible to >> >> edit program parameters on your N using your computer. And with an >> >> N-specific librarian it would be possible to audition/send a single (or >> >> several) program/combi to the N via midi. > > >> >> Unfortunately there is no N-specific editor/librarian yet, but > >development >> >> is under way. > > Please, if you know about (or you can made) any software to edit Nx64 programs in my PC ypu could made me terribly happy sending it to me (or telling how to get it). I've been searching for it 3 months (and the true reason for subscribe me to this M-L is to find something like that). Please again... can you do something? Grok

At 12:36 5/03/98 -0500, you wrote: > >While everyone is waiting for a specific N364 editer to come out, everyone > >should download xedit. Ive been using it for a few months now and it works > >great(granted I just have the shareware and can only edit the 2'nd oscilater). > >Also the librarian is a great feature to have, makes things a breeze when > >organizing all your sounds.Just configure it so it thinks you have an X3 and > >it should work without probs on the n364(does for me anyways). I dont have a > >url but a simple yahoo search should turn it up. > > > >regards > > > >Steve Wallis > >*@*.net > > Where can I get that? Grok

Please delete me from your awesome list. I have to do a lot of work for school these months, so I figure I let some things rest for a while. Some things get adictive, you guys know exactly what I am talking about, huh. So I'm gonna miss this. I really am. I feel like I'm asking for euthanasia. Hope to join you again in Oktober. Take care. -Toon

At 22:33 1998-03-04 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote: > >I think we've established that you shouldn't read the manual or contact > >KORG support. Someone here might be able to help though. The Reference Guide is complicated and some info is VERY hard to find, but it is very usable. I can agree that KORG's support lacks though. We'll just have to team up and FORCE answers out of them. >:)

At 12:36 1998-03-05 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote: > >While everyone is waiting for a specific N364 editer to come out, everyone > >should download xedit. Ive been using it for a few months now and it works > >great(granted I just have the shareware and can only edit the 2'nd oscilater). > >Also the librarian is a great feature to have, makes things a breeze when > >organizing all your sounds.Just configure it so it thinks you have an X3 and > >it should work without probs on the n364(does for me anyways). I dont have a > >url but a simple yahoo search should turn it up. I've got a copy, but I've never gone deep into it, since I suspect that Xedit won't handle ALL Nx64-specific data. Does it? Page 52 in the Basic Guide states that loading a PCG from an X3 will work perfectly, but a PCG from an Nx64 won't work to 100% when loaded into an X3. Effect placements Serial/Parallell Sub and multisounds above 339 isn't supported in the X3. So perhaps Xedit doesn't support multisounds above 340 (the Nx64 has 429) and Serial/Parallell Sub effect placements?

At 20:50 1998-03-05 +0100, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote: > >Please, if you know about (or you can made) any software to edit Nx64 > >programs in my PC ypu could made me terribly happy sending it to me (or > >telling how to get it). > >I've been searching for it 3 months (and the true reason for subscribe me to > >this M-L is to find something like that). There is no program to specifically edit Nx64 programs yet, and I can't say when one will be ready. If you use Windows, Xedit might be adequate. It supports the KORG X-series up to X3, which is very similar to the Nx64. I'm not a programmer (though I can code low-level C-64 stuff :) , so I'm afraid I can't make a program editor myself.

At 21:31 1998-03-04 +0100, Thomas Lawergren wrote: [Cubase] > >The maps I'm talking about are straight "MIDI-Maps" and I believe that they > >are the same for both platforms. (Please correct me if I'm wrong!) I'm sure they are. I didn't use Cubase Score 3.5 VST for very long, so I didn't go very deep into it. > >Yes, I got a reply, real fast too, but it's useless 8-P > > > >Here it goes: > > > >"I wish I could get more specific, but the info is in fact in the MIDI > >implementation chart. The heavy phone work we do here does allow us the > >necessary time to write entire SysEx files. I can tell you that the > >channel thing won't happen, because you can't change the channel of a > >track on the fly in any scenario.. it would defeat the purpose of having > >channels in the first place.. " > > > >"It would defeat the purpose of having channels in the first place.." Well, atleast you got I reply. I didn't. ;) I don't understand what this means: "The heavy phone work we do here does allow us the necessary time to write entire SysEx files." Did you ask them about how to set fx parameters in seq mode via sysex? I'm starting to believe that it isn't possible. The Nx64 sends reversible sysex codes when changing effect number (e.g. from 01 Hall to 02 Ens.Hall) in program edit mode, and in combination edit mode aswell. When in seq edit mode no sysex is transmitted from the Nx64 when doing the same thing....

> > >> >>While everyone is waiting for a specific N364 editer to come out, everyone >> >>should download xedit. Ive been using it for a few months now and it works >> >>great(granted I just have the shareware and can only edit the 2'nd > >oscilater). >> >>Also the librarian is a great feature to have, makes things a breeze when >> >>organizing all your sounds.Just configure it so it thinks you have an X3 and >> >>it should work without probs on the n364(does for me anyways). I dont have a >> >>url but a simple yahoo search should turn it up. > > > >I've got a copy, but I've never gone deep into it, since I suspect that > >Xedit won't handle ALL Nx64-specific data. Does it? > > > >Page 52 in the Basic Guide states that loading a PCG from an X3 will work > >perfectly, but a PCG from an Nx64 won't work to 100% when loaded into an > >X3. Effect placements Serial/Parallell Sub and multisounds above 339 isn't > >supported in the X3. > > > >So perhaps Xedit doesn't support multisounds above 340 (the Nx64 has 429) > >and Serial/Parallell Sub effect placements? What is the Xedit exactly? Is it name of a program like Cubase/cakewalk? Where can i get it? hasnat

> >What is the Xedit exactly? Is it name of a program like > >Cubase/cakewalk? Where can i get it? Xedit is a program patch librarian for the X3/X5 ect.. You use it to make new sounds - edit old ones ect.. and to organise all your PCG's. Here's Xedit's Homepage. Keep in mind that the version for download is shareware and will only allow you to edit the 2 oscilater in double programs and will not allow you to save any combinations. The librarain is fully fuctional tho and works perfect. http://elektron.et.tudelft.nl/~joostn/xedit.html

At 17:40 7/03/98 +0100, you wrote: > >At 20:50 1998-03-05 +0100, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote: > > >> >>Please, if you know about (or you can made) any software to edit Nx64 >> >>programs in my PC ypu could made me terribly happy sending it to me (or >> >>telling how to get it). >> >>I've been searching for it 3 months (and the true reason for subscribe me to >> >>this M-L is to find something like that). > > > >There is no program to specifically edit Nx64 programs yet, and I can't say > >when one will be ready. > > > >If you use Windows, Xedit might be adequate. It supports the KORG X-series > >up to X3, which is very similar to the Nx64. > > > >I'm not a programmer (though I can code low-level C-64 stuff :) , so I'm > >afraid I can't make a program editor myself. Ok! Where can I get Xedit? Thanx Grok

Ups! I find where to get Xedit two mails after. "mil perdones" Grok

>> > > Ive had a few problems myself with the n's sequencer. For some freak >> > > reason or another it loves to lock up on me so that i cant change >> > > channels or paremeters. This usually happens when Im adjusting the c/d Sorry if this has been answered already. The problem is probably in the internal aftertouch adjustment. That is, by adjusting and calibrating the aftertouch, the problem will probably be solved. What happens is that the sequencer looks to check that all controllers are "zero-ed" at the end of recording. If not, it won't let you continue, and lockup results. The problem with the aftertouch adjustment is that it is mistakenly telling the sequencer that the aftertouch is not set to zero. Hence the lock up. Calibrating/adjusting the aftertouch will solve the "mistaken zero" problem, and therefore solve the sequencer lockup problem. The aftertouch adjustment is a technician problem - I think you have to remove a key, and access a pot on the keyboard IC. Sorry, but I'm not a technician, and I don't have technical details on this. In other words, folks, this is actually a relatively simple problem to fix. Apparently a fault in the keyboard, and not in the software for the N-sequencer as such. Consult your Korg service centre for more details. If they don't know about it, they should contact the Korg distributors in your country, etc. All the best, jg.

does exist any drums sounds that can be used in the drum kit but not the original ones, news can somebody understand me? i need anothers ones example: rap drums (with some kind of noise) thanx.

Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé wrote: > > > > Ups! I find where to get Xedit two mails after. > > "mil perdones" > > Grok where can I get the xedit?? Please let me know...are you from méxico? Greetings from puebla.

At 22:50 1998-03-10 +1100, J+G Grant wrote: >>> >> > Ive had a few problems myself with the n's sequencer. For some freak >>> >> > reason or another it loves to lock up on me so that i cant change >>> >> > channels or paremeters. This usually happens when Im adjusting the c/d > > > > > >Sorry if this has been answered already. > > > >The problem is probably in the internal aftertouch adjustment. That is, by > >adjusting and calibrating the aftertouch, the problem will probably be > >solved. > > > >What happens is that the sequencer looks to check that all controllers are > >"zero-ed" at the end of recording. If not, it won't let you continue, > >and lockup results. The problem with the aftertouch adjustment is that it > >is mistakenly telling the sequencer that the aftertouch is not set to zero. > > Hence the lock up. Calibrating/adjusting the aftertouch will solve the > >"mistaken zero" problem, and therefore solve the sequencer lockup problem. Perhaps the aftertouch calibration on global edit page 8A, three pages to the right, works?

At 12:43 1998-03-12 -0400, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: > >does exist any drums sounds that can be used in the drum kit but not the > >original ones, news can somebody understand me? > >i need anothers ones > >example: > > rap drums (with some kind of noise) If you wonder if there are more drum samples than those in the preset drum kits, then the answer is yes. Take trip to global page 6A or 6B (does anybody know why there are two drum kit setup pages???). You can use drum samples 1 to 214 (take a look at the back of the Basic Guide to see which samples you can use in drum kits). Or do you want to use other samples in a drum kit than the dedicated drum samples? Then the answer is no. But you could ofcourse create a COMBI that uses a drum kit of your choice and non-drum programs on any key interval you want. This requires a bit of work though...

hey, i'm having problems in creating rppr's. i play them in and everything sounds like i want it to WHILE i play it in, then afterwards, the notes disappear....so i play over it again....doubling it...and it's all there. then when i copy the pattern to a track, different notes are missing that weren't missing before. i checked to make sure that the velocity window was right, and that it wasn't a quantization problem. i have NO idea why it's doing this, and the manual was no help. if anyone could help at all, i'd REALLY appreciate it! thanx in advance!! mb-out _________________________________________________________ Mike Broer email: *@*.net

hello again! one more question, i remeber a little while back someone mentions that holding the seq, and 8 button while powering up would clear the sequencer. is that in the manual?? if so, where? if not, what EXACTLY does it erase? thanx again!! mb-out _________________________________________________________ Mike Broer email: *@*.net

Mike, Reference Guide-Page 98 It will erase the 10 songs, 100 patterns, and initialize the setting parameters, Tom

i realize that this was already answered in previous messages... but i don't have them anymore....how do u send bank select messages with cakewalk?? mb-out _________________________________________________________ Mike Broer email: *@*.net

>> > > Hence the lock up. Calibrating/adjusting the aftertouch will solve the >> > >"mistaken zero" problem, and therefore solve the sequencer lockup problem. > > > > Perhaps the aftertouch calibration on global edit page 8A, three pages to > > the right, works? > > No, sorry, I don't believe that it will help. jg.

Mike, Here is the explanation on how to select among diferent banks on Cakewalk. Regards, Alejandro del Hoyo. >From *@*.syntegra.net Mon Feb 23 14:00:38 1998 > >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21]) > > by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08548; > > Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:39:11 +0100 (MET) > >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release > > 1.8c) with spool id 1327 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Mon, 23 Feb > > 1998 22:39:10 +0100 > >Received: from hotmail.com (f60.hotmail.com [207.82.250.146]) by > > mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA08544 for > > <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:39:05 +0100 (MET) > >Received: (qmail 12008 invoked by uid 0); 23 Feb 1998 21:38:02 -0000 > >Received: from 200.33.230.5 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 > > 13:37:59 PST > >X-Originating-IP: [200.33.230.5] > >Content-Type: text/plain > >Message-ID: <19980223213802.12007.*@*.com> > >Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:37:59 PST > >Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> > >Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> > >From: Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca <*@*.COM> > >Subject: How to set up controllers on Cakewalk > >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > > >Hi all! > > > >In order to have cakewalk sequence loading the GM bank every time you > >open that specific sequence, you have to insert two "Control Change" > >controllers and a "Patch Change" at the beggining of each track on that > >sequence. I don't remember which is the correct Control Change for GM, > >but if you wanted to set all tracs to play on bank C you shuld insert > >the following parameters at the beggining of each track: > > > >Type of Controller Value(decimal) NOTE > >=================================================================== > >Control Change 00 This will tell N264 that the > > following Control Change is > > the bank selection > >=================================================================== > >Control Change 02 This will tell N264 that the > > bank C has been selected for > > this specific track.(See NOTE). > >=================================================================== > >Patch Change XX Where XX is the Patch number > > that you want to use on that > > track. > >=================================================================== > >NOTE: 00 will select Bank A > > 01 will select Bank B > > 02 will select Bank C > > 03 will select Bank D > > ?? will select Bank GM (See manual for further information). > > > >On cakewalk 1.3 you add a Controller (control change or patch change) by > >clicking with the right mouse button on the desired track and choosing > >the Event Browser option for the pop-up menu. Then just press the Insert > >Key of your PC keyboard and a menu will come up. Choose the desire > >controller and you are done!!!! > > > > > > > >I hope this can help... > >Regards, > >Alejandro. > > > > > > > > > > > >>From *@*.syntegra.net Mon Feb 23 10:30:35 1998 >> >>Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21]) >> >> by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07303; >> >> Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:14:09 +0100 (MET) >> >>Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP > >release >> >> 1.8c) with spool id 1304 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Mon, > >23 Feb >> >> 1998 19:14:08 +0100 >> >>Received: from MNSi.Net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by > >mail.rijnhaave.nl >> >> (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07297 for > ><*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; >> >> Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:14:06 +0100 (MET) >> >>Received: from mnsi.net.mnsi.net (dyn208-6-76-213.lon.mnsi.net > >[208.6.76.213]) >> >> by MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id NAA00245 for >> >> <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:12:24 -0500 >> >>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >> >>X-Priority: 3 >> >>X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 >> >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >>Message-ID: <199802231812.*@*.Net> >> >>Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:07:34 -0500 >> >>Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> >> >>Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> >> >>From: Mike Broer <*@*.NET> >> >>Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N >> >>To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >> >> >> >>for me the problem is that i can't use any patches from my N! i'm > >starting >> >>in cakewalk.....the N's manual is NO help...and i don't have the > >cakewalk >> >>manual..so...arg! >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________ >> >>mIcHaEl BrOeR >> >>email: *@*.net >> >> >> >>---------- >>> >>> From: Ted Scheriff Jr. <*@*.COM> >>> >>> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >>> >>> Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N >>> >>> Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 2:06 AM >>> >>> >>> >>> i think im seeing the problem here... >>> >>> people are asking why do the patches automatically change to gm?? >>> >>> ive had this problem... >>> >>> you cant write a song on the on-board sequencer and translate it for >>> >>> cakewalk--- >>> >>> if you want to use cakewalk---you have to start writing the song on >>> >>> cakewalk!!! >>> >>> as for your finished songs?---i found that i just have to fix the > >banks >> >>to the >>> >>> proper ones... but you have to do it everytime you open the file... >>> >>> hope i could help : ) >>> >>> -ted- >> >> > > > > > >

At 01:59 1998-03-17 -0500, Mike Broer wrote: > >i realize that this was already answered in previous messages... but i > >don't have them anymore....how do u send bank select messages with > >cakewalk?? There are several ways, but one easy is to open list view, put the cursor somewhere and pick "Bank/Patch Change" from the Insert menu. A window will appear. Select bank & patch and press ok. A patch change MIDI message will then be inserted. Move it to where you want it by changing meas:beat:tick.

Peter Lazarus wrote: > >This may have been answered on the forum, but why does piano for > >instance sound softer when selected in seq mode? Is it because the > >effectsprocessors come into play? As far as my tests concern, this is caused by the effect processors settings only. Try using any effects-intensitive program (or a piano if you like) to the sequencer, but copy the that program's effects settings first (seq edit page 7F). Then adjust the send C/D settings (seq edit page 1A) to C=PRG and D=PRG for the track which you play that program on. Now, the program in sequencer mode should sound exactly like in program mode. The same goes for combinations. Imagine having 32 effects processors, i.e. 2 per track in seq mode... A wonderful thought... :)

Ok, here's the complete nuts and bolts of this stuff: bank A B C D GM GM drums controller 0 0 0 0 0 56 62 controller 32 0 1 2 3 0 0 Patch change In other words, you need to send controller 0, controller 32, and a patch change to change banks. So for the GM bank, send a controller 0 with a value of 56, a controller 32 with a value of 0, and a patch change number. I hope that helps. ;-) alan

Did anyone see the article in Electronic Musician this month about workstations? They said the N364 was one of the best sounding workstations around. Oh yeah, baby, who's bad?

At 19:56 23/03/98 EST, you wrote: > >Did anyone see the article in Electronic Musician this month about > >workstations? They said the N364 was one of the best sounding workstations > >around. Oh yeah, baby, who's bad? > > Anybody knows if I can get Electronic Musician in Spain. Thanx in advance... Grok

Hi, I wonder how much Electronic Musician is going to cost in Spain? I think if you subscribe it will be less than the news stand price of about US$3.95 per issue. ;-) Juz me

Hi, That's around $4.95 Canadian I think for a magazine in Spain. Juz me

For those of you who received the 5 (6?) special offer disks with your Nx64: Did you get any kind of license agreement papers? If so, what do they say about redistribution? Legal or not? Please help me with this! I've asked KORG, but they haven't answered yet. I reccon you're faster!

At 09:41 1998-03-23 +0100, Joakim.*@*.se wrote: > >Can I assign other effects to the Send C/D, or can I send effects messages > >on a per channel basis? > > > >I want to be able to send any effect to any channel when using sequencer > >mode. Do you want to use different effects settings (i.e. distortion, reverb etc) on each channel? That's not possible since there's only two fx processors. Perhaps you mean that you want to change which two effects to use from Cakewalk? Well, that seems to be impossible too. I've gone through the MIDI implementation charts on the back of the Reference Guide thoroughly, but haven't find one single way to change which effects to use. I was hoping a Sysex message would solve the problem, but the KORG Nx64 won't receive effect-setting Sysex when in sequencer mode. For some UTTERLY stupid reason. There is a stupid workaround, but it's so annoying I won't even write it here. :) I suppose you know that you can set different send C/D for each channel, so I guess that's not what you asked about.

At 19:56 1998-03-23 -0500, SA11075 wrote: > >Did anyone see the article in Electronic Musician this month about > >workstations? They said the N364 was one of the best sounding workstations > >around. Oh yeah, baby, who's bad? Didn't see it, but I sure believe it. Hehe.

hello allo! this may be a dumb question..but i'm curious..i see all these VS Organs....what does VS mean?? i'm curious...thanx!! mb-out _________________________________________________________ Mike Broer email: *@*.net

Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something about this. Another thing, does anybody has an Idea of how much does a case for my N264 will cost in the united states? Greetings from Mexico!! CHHG

Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something about this. Another thing, does anybody has an Idea of how much does a case for my N264 will cost in the united states? Greetings from Mexico!! please e-mail me at : *@*.net CHHG

At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote: > >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with > >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something > >about this. Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side of the main page if I recall correctly... It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too. There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3 and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now. Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site. I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.

There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree, N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!! -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Re: Disks info. At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote: > >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with > >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something > >about this. Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side of the main page if I recall correctly... It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too. There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3 and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now. Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site. I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.

how exactly did u get these disks? _________________________________________________________ Mike Broer email: *@*.net ---------- From: David Young <*@*.NET> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Re: Disks info. Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 11:33 PM There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree, N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!! -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Re: Disks info. At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote: > >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with > >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something > >about this. Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side of the main page if I recall correctly... It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too. There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3 and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now. Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site. I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64. ----------

David, I only got one disk with my N_64 and it's neither NSD1 nor NSD2; it's NFD-00P. I'm still waiting for my KORG rebate and disks. Will those disks be in there? Did I not get something(s) I was supposed to get when I bought this synth? Goin' on two months now on the rebate... :( David Young wrote: > > > > There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree, N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: Disks info. > > > > At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote: > > >> > >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with >> > >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something >> > >about this. > > > > Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in > > there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side > > of the main page if I recall correctly... > > > > It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too. > > > > There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3 > > and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now. > > > > Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site. > > I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost > > everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said > > before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.

What about upload the disks you ALL have and so everybody will enjoy them... I'm an "only 1 disk owner" too. Please, please. Oh! I spend my life beggin' Arjgs. Grok

Could you share disk2 with us on the N264 FTP site ? Thanks in advance > >There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree, N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!! > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE] > >Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM > >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > >Subject: Re: Disks info. > > > >At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote: > > >> >>Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with >> >>other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something >> >>about this. > > > >Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in > >there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side > >of the main page if I recall correctly... > > > >It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too. > > > >There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3 > >and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now. > > > >Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site. > >I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost > >everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said > >before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64. > > > >Attachment Converted: "C:\PROGRAM FILES\EUDORA\attach\Re Disks info." > >

At 20:40 1998-03-26 +0100, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote: > >What about upload the disks you ALL have and so everybody will enjoy them... > >I'm an "only 1 disk owner" too. Most disks are already uploaded to: ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ Take a look after n-disks.zip there.

I called up Korg and had them send them out to me, as I didn't get any docs / disks when I bought my board... -----Original Message----- From: Mike Broer [SMTP:*@*.NET] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 10:58 PM To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Re: Disks info. how exactly did u get these disks? _________________________________________________________ Mike Broer email: *@*.net ---------- From: David Young <*@*.NET> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Re: Disks info. Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 11:33 PM There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree, N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!! -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Re: Disks info. At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote: > >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with > >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something > >about this. Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side of the main page if I recall correctly... It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too. There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3 and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now. Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site. I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.

bummer about the rebate...I just sent mine in a week ago, so it looks as though I have a long wait. :( I didn't get the NFD-00P...what is on it? When I bought my board, I didn't get any documentation or disks, so I called up Korg and they sent me out the package. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Barrett [SMTP:*@*.NET] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 2:49 AM To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Re: Disks info. David, I only got one disk with my N_64 and it's neither NSD1 nor NSD2; it's NFD-00P. I'm still waiting for my KORG rebate and disks. Will those disks be in there? Did I not get something(s) I was supposed to get when I bought this synth? Goin' on two months now on the rebate... :( David Young wrote: > > > > There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree, N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: Disks info. > > > > At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote: > > >> > >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with >> > >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something >> > >about this. > > > > Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in > > there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side > > of the main page if I recall correctly... > > > > It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too. > > > > There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3 > > and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now. > > > > Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site. > > I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost > > everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said > > before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.

well, I'm sure I could, but I have a feeling that it would break at least 5 laws...don't see much point in that... :( -----Original Message----- From: Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé [SMTP:*@*.USAL.ES] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 1:41 PM To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: All Nx64 disks owners What about upload the disks you ALL have and so everybody will enjoy them... I'm an "only 1 disk owner" too. Please, please. Oh! I spend my life beggin' Arjgs. Grok

David, > > bummer about the rebate...I just sent mine in a week ago, so it looks as though I have a long wait. I got the stuff today! That's right at about six weeks. > > I didn't get the NFD-00P...what is on it? When I bought my board, I > > didn't get any documentation or disks, so I called up Korg and they > > sent me out the package. That disk contains: PRELOAD PCG PRELOAD SNG PRELOAD PST RPPR SNG RPPR PST GMDEMO1 MID GMDEMO2 MID I3CDBANK PCG INITIAL PCG INITIAL SNG INITIAL PST I didn't get NSD1 or NSD2. The above is the original factory load disk I think. If you want, I could send you a zip of mine. Can you send me a zip of yours (NDS1 & 2) ? Tom > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Thomas Barrett [SMTP:*@*.NET] > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 2:49 AM > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: Disks info. > > > > David, > > > > I only got one disk with my N_64 and it's neither NSD1 nor NSD2; it's > > NFD-00P. I'm still waiting for my KORG rebate and disks. Will those > > disks be in there? Did I not get something(s) I was supposed to get > > when I bought this synth? Goin' on two months now on the rebate... :( > > > > David Young wrote: >> > > >> > > There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree, N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!! >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE] >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM >> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >> > > Subject: Re: Disks info. >> > > >> > > At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote: >> > > >>> > > >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with >>> > > >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something >>> > > >about this. >> > > >> > > Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in >> > > there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side >> > > of the main page if I recall correctly... >> > > >> > > It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too. >> > > >> > > There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3 >> > > and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now. >> > > >> > > Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site. >> > > I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost >> > > everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said >> > > before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.

Davis, Oh well, I wrote my last before I read that you thought it uncool to send those because of various laws. In that case, never mind. Wow, I wasn't really aware one had to be that carefull about such things. I would have thought that I have a right to the disks being requested but just never got them. I guess I'll go to the factory. But thats OK too. I understand Dave. Tom

Ken, Why is one no longer able to get into: ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ I'm interested in trying to get NSD1 & 2. Thnx, Tom Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > > > At 20:40 1998-03-26 +0100, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote: > > >> > >What about upload the disks you ALL have and so everybody will enjoy them... >> > >I'm an "only 1 disk owner" too. > > > > Most disks are already uploaded to: > > > > ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ > > > > Take a look after n-disks.zip there.

I already have these files...sorry.. :( -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Barrett [SMTP:*@*.NET] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 7:28 PM To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Re: Disks info. David, > > bummer about the rebate...I just sent mine in a week ago, so it looks as though I have a long wait. I got the stuff today! That's right at about six weeks. > > I didn't get the NFD-00P...what is on it? When I bought my board, I > > didn't get any documentation or disks, so I called up Korg and they > > sent me out the package. That disk contains: PRELOAD PCG PRELOAD SNG PRELOAD PST RPPR SNG RPPR PST GMDEMO1 MID GMDEMO2 MID I3CDBANK PCG INITIAL PCG INITIAL SNG INITIAL PST I didn't get NSD1 or NSD2. The above is the original factory load disk I think. If you want, I could send you a zip of mine. Can you send me a zip of yours (NDS1 & 2) ? Tom > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Thomas Barrett [SMTP:*@*.NET] > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 2:49 AM > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: Disks info. > > > > David, > > > > I only got one disk with my N_64 and it's neither NSD1 nor NSD2; it's > > NFD-00P. I'm still waiting for my KORG rebate and disks. Will those > > disks be in there? Did I not get something(s) I was supposed to get > > when I bought this synth? Goin' on two months now on the rebate... :( > > > > David Young wrote: >> > > >> > > There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree, N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!! >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE] >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM >> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >> > > Subject: Re: Disks info. >> > > >> > > At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote: >> > > >>> > > >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with >>> > > >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something >>> > > >about this. >> > > >> > > Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in >> > > there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side >> > > of the main page if I recall correctly... >> > > >> > > It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too. >> > > >> > > There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3 >> > > and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now. >> > > >> > > Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site. >> > > I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost >> > > everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said >> > > before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.

Sorry about that folks. Ccnet was bought by Verio. The new address is: ftp.ncal.verio.com/pub/users/sad001 I was led to believe that the old address would continue to work but I hadn't tested it until now. Steve Thomas Barrett wrote: > > > > Ken, > > > > Why is one no longer able to get into: > > > > ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ > > > > I'm interested in trying to get NSD1 & 2. > > > > Thnx, > > > > Tom > > > > Kenneth Jonsson wrote: >> > > >> > > At 20:40 1998-03-26 +0100, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote: >> > > >>> > > >What about upload the disks you ALL have and so everybody will enjoy them... >>> > > >I'm an "only 1 disk owner" too. >> > > >> > > Most disks are already uploaded to: >> > > >> > > ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ >> > > >> > > Take a look after n-disks.zip there.

well I had to pay for them...they didn't just give them to me for free there dood... -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Barrett [SMTP:*@*.NET] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 7:32 PM To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Re: All Nx64 disks owners Davis, Oh well, I wrote my last before I read that you thought it uncool to send those because of various laws. In that case, never mind. Wow, I wasn't really aware one had to be that carefull about such things. I would have thought that I have a right to the disks being requested but just never got them. I guess I'll go to the factory. But thats OK too. I understand Dave. Tom

David, That's the problem with the internet. One is not able to watch body language or hear inflection of voice to help in interpretation. I, in no way, intended to offend or insult you about acquiring the disks. As a matter of fact, I thought that I went out of my way to relieve you of any concern about the whole issue without feeling bad at all. At least that was my intent. I wasn't aware you had to pay for the disks. Might I ask your indulgence for a moment? 1) How much did they cost? 2) What's on them? and, 3) Are you happy about the puchase? Gotta go finish a new progression...a D augmented with an A flat in the base might work there... :) TTYL Tom David Young wrote: > > > > well I had to pay for them...they didn't just give them to me for free there dood... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Thomas Barrett [SMTP:*@*.NET] > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 7:32 PM > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: All Nx64 disks owners > > > > Davis, > > > > Oh well, I wrote my last before I read that you thought it uncool to > > send those because of various laws. In that case, never mind. Wow, I > > wasn't really aware one had to be that carefull about such things. I > > would have thought that I have a right to the disks being requested but > > just never got them. I guess I'll go to the factory. But thats OK > > too. I understand Dave. > > > > Tom

Excuse me all. I didn't mean you give for free something that wasn't free for you. I just thought the disks were something everybody could have, just new releases of the same thing which has some files that weren't available before. I'm in Spain and tell Korg to send them by snail mail seemed to me much slower than get them by ftp. But I understand you, that's ok. Ken: I've already downloaded the file you told me, and they're the files I already have (from my original Korg disk). But thanks anyway.

Man! I didn't know how stupid I was until I opened my Korg N264 Reference Guide. I've had my workstation for about a month. Basiclly I've been using it in performance, but me and a co-song writer are going to be working on a lot of new material. I've learned the basics of program & combination edit modes, global edit, and recording what I've played on the keyboard, but I can't get a handle on this pattern play. I can't seem to figure out how to load patterns and if I do, where are they at? How do I set them up to play when I press the assigned key? Is there a "layman terms" way do get me pointed in the right direction? I feel when I get a grasp of what I'm doing, the rest will fall in place. Any info you could give at this point would be greatly appreciated. This is definetly a Fantastic Keyboard. The manual I'm not so sure about. thanks David Wright

At 19:12 1998-03-27 +0100, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote: > >Ken: I've already downloaded the file you told me, and they're the files I > >already have (from my original Korg disk). But thanks anyway. Then you can't have downloaded the right file. There's a zip archive on ftp://ftp.ncal.verio.com/pub/users/sad001/ that contains several of the rebate disks. Unless it has been removed?

Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > Then you can't have downloaded the right file. There's a zip archive on > > > > ftp://ftp.ncal.verio.com/pub/users/sad001/ > > > > that contains several of the rebate disks. Unless it has been removed? I didn't remove it. :) Everything is still there. Steve

Please remove me from your mailing list. Thanks, it's been fun.

At 18:15 1998-03-30 -0800, Dennis Jarosz wrote: >> >>Please remove me from your mailing list. Thanks, it's been fun. > > > >Who is this we don't have a mailing list this is a person's e-mail not a > >company. Maybe you should check the e-mail address. Mailing list removal requests should be sent directly to us owners (*@*.syntegra.net), but preferably to the list server as a sign-off command. Some people haven't noticed this.

Who is this we don't have a mailing list this is a person's e-mail not a company. Maybe you should check the e-mail address. -----Original Message----- From: Jomocujy2 <*@*.COM> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> Date: Monday, March 30, 1998 10:51 AM Subject: Re: Bank Selection messages > >Please remove me from your mailing list. Thanks, it's been fun.

alright...i've goofed around with this thing A LOT..and haven't gotten it to change the banks. when i go into the event list, under kind i choose controler, but what do i put under value?? i can't get it workin. thanx in advance. :) _________________________________________________________ Mike Broer email: *@*.net ---------- > > From: Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca <*@*.COM> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Bank Selection stuff........,.... > > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 6:19 PM > > > > Mike, > > Here is the explanation on how to select among diferent banks on > > Cakewalk. > > > > Regards, > > Alejandro del Hoyo. > > > > > > >From *@*.syntegra.net Mon Feb 23 14:00:38 1998 >> > >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21]) >> > > by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08548; >> > > Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:39:11 +0100 (MET) >> > >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP > > release >> > > 1.8c) with spool id 1327 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Mon, > > 23 Feb >> > > 1998 22:39:10 +0100 >> > >Received: from hotmail.com (f60.hotmail.com [207.82.250.146]) by >> > > mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA08544 for >> > > <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:39:05 +0100 > > (MET) >> > >Received: (qmail 12008 invoked by uid 0); 23 Feb 1998 21:38:02 -0000 >> > >Received: from 200.33.230.5 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 23 Feb > > 1998 >> > > 13:37:59 PST >> > >X-Originating-IP: [200.33.230.5] >> > >Content-Type: text/plain >> > >Message-ID: <19980223213802.12007.*@*.com> >> > >Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:37:59 PST >> > >Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> >> > >Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> >> > >From: Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca <*@*.COM> >> > >Subject: How to set up controllers on Cakewalk >> > >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >> > > >> > >Hi all! >> > > >> > >In order to have cakewalk sequence loading the GM bank every time you >> > >open that specific sequence, you have to insert two "Control Change" >> > >controllers and a "Patch Change" at the beggining of each track on that >> > >sequence. I don't remember which is the correct Control Change for GM, >> > >but if you wanted to set all tracs to play on bank C you shuld insert >> > >the following parameters at the beggining of each track: >> > > >> > >Type of Controller Value(decimal) NOTE >> > >=================================================================== >> > >Control Change 00 This will tell N264 that the >> > > following Control Change is >> > > the bank selection >> > >=================================================================== >> > >Control Change 02 This will tell N264 that the >> > > bank C has been selected for >> > > this specific track.(See NOTE). >> > >=================================================================== >> > >Patch Change XX Where XX is the Patch number >> > > that you want to use on that >> > > track. >> > >=================================================================== >> > >NOTE: 00 will select Bank A >> > > 01 will select Bank B >> > > 02 will select Bank C >> > > 03 will select Bank D >> > > ?? will select Bank GM (See manual for further information). >> > > >> > >On cakewalk 1.3 you add a Controller (control change or patch change) > > by >> > >clicking with the right mouse button on the desired track and choosing >> > >the Event Browser option for the pop-up menu. Then just press the > > Insert >> > >Key of your PC keyboard and a menu will come up. Choose the desire >> > >controller and you are done!!!! >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >I hope this can help... >> > >Regards, >> > >Alejandro. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >>From *@*.syntegra.net Mon Feb 23 10:30:35 1998 >>> > >>Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21]) >>> > >> by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07303; >>> > >> Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:14:09 +0100 (MET) >>> > >>Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP >> > >release >>> > >> 1.8c) with spool id 1304 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Mon, >> > >23 Feb >>> > >> 1998 19:14:08 +0100 >>> > >>Received: from MNSi.Net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by >> > >mail.rijnhaave.nl >>> > >> (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07297 for >> > ><*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; >>> > >> Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:14:06 +0100 (MET) >>> > >>Received: from mnsi.net.mnsi.net (dyn208-6-76-213.lon.mnsi.net >> > >[208.6.76.213]) >>> > >> by MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id NAA00245 for >>> > >> <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:12:24 -0500 >>> > >>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>> > >>X-Priority: 3 >>> > >>X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 >>> > >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>> > >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> > >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> > >>Message-ID: <199802231812.*@*.Net> >>> > >>Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:07:34 -0500 >>> > >>Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> >>> > >>Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> >>> > >>From: Mike Broer <*@*.NET> >>> > >>Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N >>> > >>To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >>> > >> >>> > >>for me the problem is that i can't use any patches from my N! i'm >> > >starting >>> > >>in cakewalk.....the N's manual is NO help...and i don't have the >> > >cakewalk >>> > >>manual..so...arg! >>> > >> >>> > >>_________________________________________________________ >>> > >>mIcHaEl BrOeR >>> > >>email: *@*.net >>> > >> >>> > >>---------- >>>> > >>> From: Ted Scheriff Jr. <*@*.COM> >>>> > >>> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >>>> > >>> Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N >>>> > >>> Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 2:06 AM >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> i think im seeing the problem here... >>>> > >>> people are asking why do the patches automatically change to gm?? >>>> > >>> ive had this problem... >>>> > >>> you cant write a song on the on-board sequencer and translate it for >>>> > >>> cakewalk--- >>>> > >>> if you want to use cakewalk---you have to start writing the song on >>>> > >>> cakewalk!!! >>>> > >>> as for your finished songs?---i found that i just have to fix the >> > >banks >>> > >>to the >>>> > >>> proper ones... but you have to do it everytime you open the file... >>>> > >>> hope i could help : ) >>>> > >>> -ted- >>> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >

I am a new n364 user, fighting my way up the learning curve. I am trying to get the synth working with Cubasis Software which came packaged with it. Cubasis is, as I understand it, a somewhat simpler relative of Cubase, made by the same firm as an entry level version. I would welcome advice on using this software with the 364. In particular, I want to know how to select programs and banks. So far, when I plug numbers into Cubasis, I get what appear to be random bank and program selection. Any advice or help gratefully received! Thanks, Robert *@*.com

hello guys I just want to know if it's possible to assign Effects on N from Cakewalk the way u control for ex. Volume/Pan.. Hasnat

At 16:46 1998-04-01 -0800, Hasnat M wrote: > >I just want to know if it's possible to assign Effects on N from > >Cakewalk the way u control for ex. Volume/Pan.. It seems impossible to select effect (phaser, distortion, reverb etc) via MIDI. Atleast I haven't found a single way to do it, after going through the MIDI implementation charts in the Reference Guide rather thoroughly. This sucks. It's possible to select effects via MIDI SysEx in program and combi mode only. So if you don't need more than 8 MIDI channels, you could use combi mode for multitimbral playback. There are a couple of drawbacks to this though. I guess selecting which program to use on each channel will be a bit difficult, since a program change MIDI message will be interpreted as a combi change. But I haven't tested, so I'm not sure...

At 14:35 1998-04-01 -0800, Robert Neville wrote: > > Cubasis is, as I understand it, a somewhat simpler relative of Cubase, > >made by the same firm as an entry level version. True. I've got Cubasis Audio 1.6 (which came free with my SB AWE64 Gold sound card), and it's got a lot less features than Cubase. Naturally, since it's a lot cheaper. > >I would welcome advice on using this software with the 364. In particular, > >I want to know how to select programs and banks. So far, when I plug > >numbers into Cubasis, I get what appear to be random bank and program > >selection. I'm not using Cubasis anymore (I use Cakewalk), but I still have Cubasis installed and it works fine. If you activate the trackinfo window (click the small button on the left downer corner of the main arrangement window) you can select banks and programs for each channel. Bank numbers are: 0 - A 1 - B 2 - C 3 - D 4 - GM (it works for me, but 7169 is the correct value) 7937 - GM drums Program numbers: For bank A to D, you have to add 1 to the program you want. E.g. if you want program 09, enter 10. For bank GM, you can enter the number directly, i.e. 09 for 09. Now, if you want to select program C43, enter bank number 2 and program number 44.

Cakewalk: At 16:36 1998-03-31 -0500, Mike Broer wrote: > >when i go into the event list, under kind i choose > >controler, but what do i put under value?? There are two values. The first is the bank number: 0 - A 1 - B 2 - C 3 - D 7169 - GM 7937 - GM drums The second is the program.

> > to change the banks. when i go into the event list, under kind i choose > > controler, but what do i put under value?? i can't get it workin. thanx In the N on-board sequencer, event edit, the bank change is on the Program Change line! You'll see it represented by actual bank nos, e.g. A:34, GM:12, etc. No complicated numbers at all. You can cursor over either the program number OR the bank number, and just change the bank. Easy! jg

I guess it means every time u load a song on your c/walk u hv to set the effects of any of your 10S's on your N......right? Or is there any other way? >> >>I just want to know if it's possible to assign Effects on N from >> >>Cakewalk the way u control for ex. Volume/Pan.. > > > >It seems impossible to select effect (phaser, distortion, reverb etc) via > >MIDI. Atleast I haven't found a single way to do it, after going through > >the MIDI implementation charts in the Reference Guide rather thoroughly. > > > >This sucks. > > > >It's possible to select effects via MIDI SysEx in program and combi mode > >only. So if you don't need more than 8 MIDI channels, you could use combi > >mode for multitimbral playback. There are a couple of drawbacks to this > >though. I guess selecting which program to use on each channel will be a > >bit difficult, since a program change MIDI message will be interpreted as a > >combi change. But I haven't tested, so I'm not sure...

I came across a problem with Cakewalk (version 6): How do I send the MIDI system common message "song select", i.e. F3 0x (where x is the song number), to my N364? It's not a SysEx code, neither is it a MIDI controller....

At 15:32 1998-04-03 -0800, Hasnat M wrote: > >I guess it means every time u load a song on your c/walk u hv to set the > >effects of any of your 10S's on your N......right? Thank KORG for that. :) > >Or is there any other way? Well, there's atleast one alternative. The method I'll start using very soon msyelf is this: 1. Clear the internal sequencer (a quick way is to load initial.sng). 2. Edit the effect settings for one of the songs, preferably number 9. 3. Use Cakewalk/Cubase/whatever to request all sequencer data. 4. Put the received SysEx in the start of a track, or in a SysEx bank if using Cakewalk. Also include a GM mode on message (F0 7E 7F 09 01 F7), which will put the Nx64 in seq mode song 9. 5. When using Cakewalk, set both the GM mode message bank and the SysEx sequencer data bank to "auto". Step 1 is a good way to keep the SysEx data amount down, which gives shorter MIDI transfer times. Now, next time the song is loaded, the Nx64's internal sequencer will be overwritten and song 9 will have the desired effect settings. The Nx64 will also enter seq mode song 9, and is ready to play. This is a brute-force method, but it should work. Take care not to loose any important work in the internal sequencer though!

Thanx Ken for the explaination... Will try it l8r hasnat >> >>I guess it means every time u load a song on your c/walk u hv to set the >> >>effects of any of your 10S's on your N......right? > > > >Thank KORG for that. :) > > >> >>Or is there any other way? > > > >Well, there's atleast one alternative. The method I'll start using very > >soon msyelf is this: > > > >1. Clear the internal sequencer (a quick way is to load initial.sng). > >2. Edit the effect settings for one of the songs, preferably number 9. > >3. Use Cakewalk/Cubase/whatever to request all sequencer data. > >4. Put the received SysEx in the start of a track, or in a SysEx bank if > > using Cakewalk. Also include a GM mode on message (F0 7E 7F 09 01 F7), > > which will put the Nx64 in seq mode song 9. > >5. When using Cakewalk, set both the GM mode message bank and the SysEx > > sequencer data bank to "auto". > > > >Step 1 is a good way to keep the SysEx data amount down, which gives > >shorter MIDI transfer times. > > > >Now, next time the song is loaded, the Nx64's internal sequencer will be > >overwritten and song 9 will have the desired effect settings. The Nx64 will > >also enter seq mode song 9, and is ready to play. > > > >This is a brute-force method, but it should work. Take care not to loose > >any important work in the internal sequencer though!

Actually I sequence in Combi mode all the time. You have to go to global and select on page 3a "prg" for prog:. (sorry, it's hard to word that action very clearly). This sets it up so that you don't change combis when changing individual programs. Also, you need to activate every voice in the combi and set them to different midi channels (unless you want to layer two of them and get really confused.)

I just got my N264 this weekend. So far I'm not haveing any problems useing cakewalk as an external sequencer If I only want to use PROGRAMS banks a-c and GM. with out any effects. Can someone walk me through setting some effects, or possibly useing any combi's with cakewalk. Please understand that I'm very new to both cakewalk 6.0 and the N264. Please don't leave out any steps which one might assume I should know. Has anyone considered creating a STUDIOWARE panel to apply effects to the TRACKS. I don't have much expeirence with STUDIOWARE but I have seen panels for some of th YAMAHA TONE GENERATORS <MU100R>. Which allow them to apply the effects they want to each track. Also IS there a INS file out there with PROGRAMS and COMBIS, in it. IF so could someone please emial it to me. Thanks. Very NEW, Novice MIDI Guru, and Music Lover Rob Samples

At 14:27 1998-04-06 -0700, Robert Samples wrote: > >Can someone walk me through setting some effects, or possibly useing > >any combi's with cakewalk. Do you mean send C/D settings or effect processor settings? The first is no problem (send C is midi controller 91 and send D is midi controller 93), but the second is. To play combis from any external sequencer, simply switch to combi mode on your N (or send a SysEx code for that). Bank selections work the same way as for seq or prog mode (except for the GM bank which doesn't exist in combi mode). > >Has anyone considered creating a STUDIOWARE panel to apply effects to > >the TRACKS. Yup. I might do one if I find time for it. > >Also IS there a INS file out there with PROGRAMS and COMBIS, in it. > >IF so could someone please emial it to me. Thanks. There are two INS files, KorgN264.ins and KorgN364.ins. The first is more complete. However, I've made my own version (N364.ins) which combines the best of these two and I've also put more midi controllers in. You can get the first two INS files from: ftp://ftp.ncal.verio.com/pub/users/sad001/ I'll probably put my own INS on this adress later. I'll let you know when I do.

Hello to all, my name is Sven and I am new to this list (and to my N364 ;-)). So I just want to say hello and pose a question: When using a combination (e.g. Strings and Piano as layered sounds), how can I change the volume of one of the timbres/ sounds during playing? Can I put the volume control on the value slider or the joystick? What I intend to do is starting playing with only the piano sound and then turning up the volume of the strings without having to change to the edit-mode of the combination. Any help is appreciated. Cheers Sven

Would any list member recommend a good music editor/sequencer which they have found useful for composition and arrangment work? I feel that the software which came with my 264 (Cubasis, a simpler version of Cubase) is oriented towards entering tracks from the keyboard. I can do this, but since I am a flute/recorder player, keyboard is not really my home ground. I want to find software which encourages really convenient entry of parts from the mouse and keyboard with, of course, immediate playback to check the sounds. Any thoughts on this? Robert *@*.com

Hi Robert, > >Would any list member recommend a good music editor/sequencer which they > >have found useful for composition and arrangment work? Take a look at Finale (http://www.codamusic.com). It is a very good music notation program where you can enter the parts (music) quickly with or without using a keyboard and a mouse. You can also record whole tracks by playing the keyboard. It has a built-in sequencer but its features can not be compared to those of Cubase or Cakewalk. Arranging is more complicated than with sequencing-only programs, but it is possible. You can download a demo version from the above mentioned homepage. I use version 3.7 which runs fine under NT 4.0, but I have no experience with the version Finale 97. Ciao Sven

> > To play combis from any external sequencer, simply switch to combi mode on > > your N (or send a SysEx code for that). Bank selections work the same way > > as for seq or prog mode (except for the GM bank which doesn't exist in > > combi mode). Isn't it true though that you can play only one channel at a time this way. In other words I couldn't have COMB A 32 playing a track and COMB b13 playing a track at the same time. Correct.... Is there a way to do this, with this tone generator, if not that is fine. I'm looking to add a Yamaha MU100R to my midi setup shortly.

>> > >Would any list member recommend a good music editor/sequencer which they >> > >have found useful for composition and arrangment work? > > > > Take a look at Finale (http://www.codamusic.com). It is a very good music Well, my advice is to try Finale only if you have the next year to spend just learning the program. And only if you are mainly interested in working with music notation. Finale's MIDI transcription/playback is not good. It is basically a music notation program, after all, and I've not heard anyone ever describe it as easy to use. If you ARE mainly interested in music notation, Opcode's Overture is much, much easier to use, and has much, much better MIDI operability, including a Graphic Editing window. It's only available for Mac, however, at this time. If music notation is not that important, or is only one aspect of your abilities, just go for a better sequencer. Cubasis is an entry-level sequencer, so has entry-level abilities. Check out Cubase, from which Cubasis derived. Or any of the other pro sequencers: Vision from Opcode, Logic from Emagic, etc. You will find something here to satisfy you, I'm sure, or at the very least, to take you a further step on the path..... jg.

At 10:21 1998-04-09 -0700, Robert Samples wrote: >> >> To play combis from any external sequencer, simply switch to combi >> >> mode on your N > > > >Isn't it true though that you can play only one channel at a time this > >way. In other words I couldn't have COMB A 32 playing a track and > >COMB b13 playing a track at the same time. Correct.... That's right. You can only play one combi at a time in combi mode. If you want to play more than one, you can copy combis to the internal sequencer. Sometimes when I want to use a combi in a song, I copy each channel's settings to my external sequencer (in this case Cakewalk) and play it from there. That's cumbersome though. I usually sample each combi, playing solo, separately and have it played with my computer sound card instead. > >I'm looking to add a Yamaha MU100R to my midi setup shortly. I think I've heard of that one. Is it a new sound module?

This is the question I sent to KORG: > > Can I redistribute the disks from the N264/N364 rebate offer for free in > > archived form (e.g. zipped) on a private FTP site? And this is what they answered: > > Unfortunately, no. You can make backups for your own use... anything > > further would be unauthorized, as these disks are otherwise from the > > recent promo "for sale"... Perhaps, if we are lucky, it will be authorized to distribute the disks when they are no longer part of the promo offer.... But spread them if you want to. I'm not responsible for your actions, and neither will I let KORG know that you do so. :)

Should we then remove the files n-disks.zip and rpprdrum.zip from the ftp site? I recommend that we do before someone gets in trouble. > >This is the question I sent to KORG: > > >> >> Can I redistribute the disks from the N264/N364 rebate offer for free in >> >> archived form (e.g. zipped) on a private FTP site? > > > >And this is what they answered: > > >> >> Unfortunately, no. You can make backups for your own use... anything >> >> further would be unauthorized, as these disks are otherwise from the >> >> recent promo "for sale"... John

At 09:23 1998-04-10 -0400, John Schulz wrote: > >Should we then remove the files n-disks.zip and rpprdrum.zip from the ftp > >site? I recommend that we do before someone gets in trouble. It's up to Steve Day, since it's his site. Personally I wouldn't remove them unless KORG warned me personally, but that's me. I doubt KORG cares too much.

How can I assign separate output ( L, R, 3, 4) on my song ( sequence mode )? For ex. in my drumkit (track 10), I need the bass drum output in Left & the snare drum in right then hihat on output 3 & tom on output 4. Is it possible ( this is needed in studio situation )

At 13:45 1998-04-08 +0100, Sven Hartwig wrote: > >When using a combination (e.g. Strings and Piano as layered sounds), how > >can I change the volume of one of the timbres/ sounds during playing? The easiest way is to use "combi performance edit". If you for example want to change the volume of timbre #3 during playing, press button 3 (the third button to the right of the volume slider, top row - it has a dark blue 3 above it). Now position the cursor over the volume (one step to the right), and you can use the value slider to continuosly change the volume of the selected timbre during playing. Changes in performance edit mode aren't saved, so there's no risk of losing the original settings.

Yes it's possible. You'll need to set up your sequence so that each drum is on a different channel (just set up four different channels with the same drum kit on each channel). Then pan the kick drum channel to "A", the snare to "B". Turn the toms and hat to "off" for panning, and then send the hat to send "C" (you have to be in edit mode if you to do this part) and the tom channel to send "D". Now go to the page right after the effects and select "ParallellSub" for the effects scheme. I use this all the time to dump parts to my multitrack. Let me know if it works.

If you have an expression pedal, You can set it (I think) to "Data Entry" under the Global parameters. Then you could do this by foot instead of by hand. You would think there'd be a way to do this via midi expression or volume, but I can't think of how that would work off hand. Anyone else?

There seems to be a lot of confusion about how the effects and the different modes work on the N. Let me attempt (hah!) to clear some of this up. The N series has sixteen multitimbral parts. In Program mode, you can only play one of these parts. It sends on channel one (or whatever your base midi channel is). In Combi mode, you are using UP TO eight parts, (each one a program), each of which can respond on any midi channel (they can all be set to the same one, too). In Sequencer mode, you can use up to sixteen parts, each of which can be set to any midi channel. So therefore, (assuming you sequence from sequencer mode and not combi mode), you have sixteen parts and sixteen channels to work with. If you have three parts on one channel, you don't have fifteen parts left even though you have fifteen channels left. You only have thirteen parts left. Conversely, if you use two channels to control another synthesizer, even though you have only fourteen channels left, you still have sixteen parts to work with (some will have to share channels, and essentially be layered). All of this, no matter what mode you're in, gets put through two (2) effects processors, and only two effects processors. There are only two on board, and no more. So if you have a delay and overdrive on your drum kit in program mode, you can't go to sequencer mode and add a phaser without dropping either delay or overdrive. This all may seem basic to most people, but there are a lot of first-time synthesizer owners out there who have made the error of lumping programs and combis together under the category of "sounds" without realizing the difference. I hope that clears things up! :-) PS-maybe we should start some kind of group FAQ doc?

Hello! I was wondering if there is a way to save the changes u make to an smf, i make changes WHILE it's playing..but then they go back, is there a way?? thanx in advance! =) Mike

Hi, I am a new Korg user. I bought this keyboard month back and have just started on it. I have a question. In N364 is there any way to arrange a specific part of the song. What I mean is if in a song the bass part is simple and I just want it to follow a certain sequence of chords, what will be the best way to do this in N364 without actually recording the bass for the whole song. Any inputs regarding this will be very helpful to me. Take Care Murali

I asked KORG if the Nx64 promo offer disks could be distributed for free after the promo offer was over, but not even that is ok. The disks are available for sale at KORG USA's homepage (www.korg.com). That's it and that's that... :(

At 09:35 13/04/98 -0500, you wrote: > >What I mean is if in a song the bass part is simple and I just want it to > >follow a certain sequence of > >chords, what will be the best way to do this in N364 without actually > >recording the bass for the whole song. > >Take Care > >Murali > > > > first of all, wellcome! i think that the best way to do what you want, if i understood correctly, is to use a software like band in a box, where you can put the sequence of chords you want and the bass part will follow it. then, copy the file into your n364 as .mid format. i hope this helps. beny

I know this isn't the place for this question but here it goes. I can't get my AWE64 GOLD to record audio in Cakewalk 6.0 using my N264. I just can't get it to record the audio from the LEFT/MONO into the LINE IN on the card. Any Ideas.

Hi! I have had some problems with using outputs 3 and 4 on my 364 in sequencer mode. On a gig I would like to assign bass into output 3 and kick drum into output 4 to be directed into a separate bass amp/subwoofer. I would like to do this to improve the bass and kick drum sound AND to save my PA speakers from breaking down... I intended to use a Marshall Bass amp plus 1x15 Hartke cabinet plus 4x10 marshall cabinet. For the other instruments + vocals I would of course use the PA amp + speaker system. It seems that, in sequencer mode (PLACEMENT), ONLY THE WHOLE SONG CAN BE ASSIGNED TO PARALLEL SUB OR SERIAL SUB. So, if I assign the track to parallel sub or serial sub. And even if I manage to get the bass out of Output 3, the L/R outputs seem to have really weird-sounding stuff (lots of reverb!) I have aldo changed (on page 1A) the SEND C/SEND D parameters but no. I have also tried to edit the program parameters in Program Edit mode. I find this rather annoying because I used to have Korg O1W Pro a few years back and it worked just fine: I could direct bass and kick to a separate amp via outputs 3 and 4. Am I perhaps doing something wrong??? If someone has a solution, please let me know. Erkki Erkkilä Finland

Chandra, Now I won't say that I've really explored all of the tricks on this thing because it's by backup board but I think what you are describing is an ideal situation in which pattern record/play can be used. There are some demo sample patterns on your factory disks and more are available through others; on the latter statement, the "more" seem to be getting less and less available due to KORG'S encouragement to spread them around piberally. d;-} Best regards, Tom Chandra Murali wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I am a new Korg user. I bought this keyboard month back and have > > just started on it. I have a question. In N364 is there any way to > > arrange a specific part of the song. What I mean is if in a song the > > bass part is simple and I just want it to follow a certain sequence of > > chords, what will be the best way to do this in N364 without actually > > recording the bass for the whole song. Any inputs regarding this will > > be very helpful to me. > > > > Take Care > > Murali

In a message dated 4/13/98 2:59:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET writes: << I could direct bass and kick to a separate amp via outputs 3 and 4. >> I wish I could help, that is exactly what I'm trying to do too... and help? Dave

> > You would think there'd be a way to do this via midi expression or volume, > > but I can't think of how that would work off hand. Anyone else? Yes. In Combi Edit, you have the option to Filter certain types of MIDI messages to individual timbres. Pitch Bend, Damper, Controllers, and one other. If you Disable Controller reception for the Piano sound, then Piano will not receive Expression pedal information. If the Strings timbre has Controllers enabled, then it WILL respond to the Expression pedal. Save the Combi to memory before you finish. jg

> > I have had some problems with using outputs 3 and 4 on my 364 in sequencer mode. On a gig I would like to assign bass into output 3 and kick drum into output 4 to be directed into a separate bass amp/subwoofer. I would like to do this to Sorry, I don't have either an N or the manual in front of me, but..... to be absolutely clear about where the signal if going, you should check the page in the manual that has a diagram of each Effects Placement option. Serial (the first option) is probably the way to go. With Serial Placement, the 2 effects are in series, and will be heard on all tracks panned L<>R, going to outputs 1 and 2. Then, if you use Send 3 or Send 4 on any timbres, they will go to outputs 3 or 4 respectively, with no effects. (If you use Parallel 1 Placement, you'll have effects here, which can be useful in some situations.) If you don't want these timbres to appear in the main outputs, then you will need to turn them off - I think the Pan pot has an OFF position, unless I'm confusing the N with the 01/W. All the best, jg.

I need some "getting started" advice. I know most of you on the n-list are leap years ahead of me in sequencing, arranging, etc. I'm picking up most of the tricks for recording my music, e.g. layering,coping tracks,punch in,etc. But at this point I've yet to figure out how to record drum kits, pattern sets, create patterns with drum kits,etc. I just need some simple drum sections to fill in for the music I write, rather than depend on the metronome to keep beat. I've read the books and followed the instuctions, but can't seem to get it. I've emptied the sequencer memory and reloaded pattern sets, but don't know how to get them incorperated into my songs. I'm sure it's simple. I just need the magic words. If I can jump this hurdle I'll move on to PC based programs (then I'll really need some good advice). I'm saving most of the e-mail from the n-list for future reference. Wish I were at that level. Thanks David Wright

You don't tell me what the actual problem is. Here some tips to start out with: I've been using my AWE64 for recording together with midi on my N264. It works fine, but you can not set it up for Full Duplex operations with the AWE. However, you can play several audio tracks simultaneously. Check that the full duplex box is not checked. Also, you must change the channel setting so audio recording. I use one channel for Left and one for right. I use 2 mono cables that plugs into a single mini stereo adapter plug at the end. Check if your cable is a mono or stereo cable. If you have a stereo cable - use the phones port from the NX64 instead. Its in stereo. See that the volume for the input device is up and that it is not muted on the mixer. I think there is a setting in the creative mixer where you can select which device that should be used for recording. Maybe It defaults to MIC. Change it to Aux/Line In or whatever port you are using. Also check what directory you are using when recording. Maybe you are out of space? I have seen som trouble when using a directory that contains spaces or strange letters (such as swedish letters ... ÅÄÖ). Since the AWE can not handle full duplex using 44.1 KHZ, I bought myself an Ensoniq Audio PCI and it works super! I think it has much better MIDI sounds as well (not as good as my NX64 although). There are 8 MB samples available from ensoniq (for free!). Further more, a PCI soundcard is potentially faster then any ISA soundcard. And it's not very expensive! I use 264, Cakewalk 6.1 and Ensoniq. A perfect match for me. ------------------------------------------------------- Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg 182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering SWEDEN +46-8-* http://www.skanska.com <http://www.skanska.com> <mailto:joakim.*@*.se> mailto:joakim.*@*.se -------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Samples, Robert [SMTP:*@*.COM] Sent: den 13 april 1998 20:15 To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Cakewalk Question I know this isn't the place for this question but here it goes. I can't get my AWE64 GOLD to record audio in Cakewalk 6.0 using my N264. I just can't get it to record the audio from the LEFT/MONO into the LINE IN on the card. Any Ideas.

Does anyone know if cakewalk 7 is out?

At 20:16 1998-04-12 -0400, SA11075 wrote: > >In Sequencer mode, you can use up to sixteen parts, each of which can be set > >to any midi channel. > > > >If you have three parts on one channel, you don't have fifteen parts left > >eventhough you have fifteen channels left. You only have thirteen parts > >left. I think you've misunderstood something here? It seems you are referring to voice polyphony as "parts"? The Nx64 has 64 voice polyphony which can be shared over 16 midi channels when in sequencer mode (or over one channel in program mode or over a max of 8 channels in combi mode). Most programs use two voices (oscillators), so if I for example play a chord of three notes on channel one, that would need 6 voices, leaving 58 voices for the other channels. Please explain what you mean by "part". > >Conversely, if you use two channels to control another synthesizer, even > >though you have only fourteen channels left, you still have sixteen parts to > >work with (some will have to share channels, and essentially be layered). In polyphony words, you mean that the 64 voices are then shared over 14 channels instead of 16. > >PS-maybe we should start some kind of group FAQ doc? I would if I had the time. If somebody is interested in going through all N-list logs and create a FAQ out of them, please do. I can put the FAQ on my homepage. Since many people have trouble understanding the use of the effect processors in sequencer mode, this is an obvious thing to write about in the FAQ.

You might be on to something here, with the full duplex. I will turn it off and see if I'm able to record. -----Original Message----- From: Joakim Lundberg [mailto:Joakim.*@*.SE] Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 8:53 AM To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Re: Cakewalk Question You don't tell me what the actual problem is. Here some tips to start out with: I've been using my AWE64 for recording together with midi on my N264. It works fine, but you can not set it up for Full Duplex operations with the AWE. However, you can play several audio tracks simultaneously. Check that the full duplex box is not checked. Also, you must change the channel setting so audio recording. I use one channel for Left and one for right. I use 2 mono cables that plugs into a single mini stereo adapter plug at the end. Check if your cable is a mono or stereo cable. If you have a stereo cable - use the phones port from the NX64 instead. Its in stereo. See that the volume for the input device is up and that it is not muted on the mixer. I think there is a setting in the creative mixer where you can select which device that should be used for recording. Maybe It defaults to MIC. Change it to Aux/Line In or whatever port you are using. Also check what directory you are using when recording. Maybe you are out of space? I have seen som trouble when using a directory that contains spaces or strange letters (such as swedish letters ... ÅÄÖ). Since the AWE can not handle full duplex using 44.1 KHZ, I bought myself an Ensoniq Audio PCI and it works super! I think it has much better MIDI sounds as well (not as good as my NX64 although). There are 8 MB samples available from ensoniq (for free!). Further more, a PCI soundcard is potentially faster then any ISA soundcard. And it's not very expensive! I use 264, Cakewalk 6.1 and Ensoniq. A perfect match for me. ------------------------------------------------------- Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg 182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering SWEDEN +46-8-* http://www.skanska.com <http://www.skanska.com> <mailto:joakim.*@*.se> mailto:joakim.*@*.se -------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Samples, Robert [SMTP:*@*.COM] Sent: den 13 april 1998 20:15 To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Cakewalk Question I know this isn't the place for this question but here it goes. I can't get my AWE64 GOLD to record audio in Cakewalk 6.0 using my N264. I just can't get it to record the audio from the LEFT/MONO into the LINE IN on the card. Any Ideas.

At 21:58 1998-04-13 +0300, Erkki Erkkilä wrote: > >I have had some problems with using outputs 3 and 4 on my 364 in sequencer > >mode. On a gig I would like to assign bass into output 3 and kick drum into > >output 4 to be directed into a separate bass amp/subwoofer. > > > >It seems that, in sequencer mode (PLACEMENT), ONLY THE WHOLE SONG CAN BE > >ASSIGNED TO PARALLEL SUB OR SERIAL SUB. True, because the Nx64 only has two effect processors as a total. If you had two effect processors per channel, you could select placement for each channel separately. > >And even if I manage to get the bass out of Output 3, the L/R outputs seem to > >have really weird-sounding stuff (lots of reverb!) Take a good look at the parallel sub and serial sub effect placements in the Reference Guide, page 61. Using output 3 and 4 is problematic when it comes to the effects. If you want to have effects added to the the bass (output 3) and kick (output 4), you must use parallell sub placement. Then there is an additional problem: effect 1 is added to bus A/B, and effect 2 to C/D. This means that you can only have one effect added to the bass+kick, and the other effect added to bus A/B (i.e. the other instruments). If you only want to add reverb, then there's no problem. Set both effect processors to the same effect, for example Hall reverb. Now the A/B and C/D outputs will have the same effect added. Please notice that you can't set individual effect sends when in parallel sub or serial sub placements!! The only way to control the amount of effect is to change DRY:EFF settings on pages 7A and 7C, one window to the right. The reason why you get a lot of reverb is because DRY:EFF is set to FX as default. 70:30 or 80:20 is a more humane level. If you don't want any effects added to the bass and kick at all, then use serial sub placement. To send to output 3, set pan to OFF (in the sequencer track view) and send C (seq edit page 1A) to 9 (or lower if you want less volume). Set send D to 0. Output 4: set pan to OFF, send D to 9 (full volume), send C to 0. Output 1: set pan to A, send C and send D to 0. Output 2: set pan to B, send C and send D to 0. Cheers!

At 15:54 1998-04-14 +0200, Joakim Lundberg wrote: > >Does anyone know if cakewalk 7 is out? Check www.cakewalk.com

At 21:53 1998-04-12 -0400, Mike Broer wrote: > >Hello! I was wondering if there is a way to save the changes u make to an > >smf, i make changes WHILE it's playing..but then they go back, is there a > >way?? thanx in advance! =) As far as I know, you can't make permanent changes while the sequencer is playing. When you load an SMF into your Nx64, it will be converted to the Nx64 song format. Edit the song as usual, and then save it as an SMF again. Note that the Nx64 will put initial program/volume/reverb/chorus settings in a temporary buffer, which means that if you edit an SMF and save it again, these settings will be lost. The manuals says that this is normal procedure for the Nx64. You can force the Nx64 to store the settings permanently by "retyping" them. What are you trying to do?

At 15:52 1998-04-14 +0200, Joakim Lundberg wrote: > >I've been using my AWE64 for recording together with midi on my N264. > >It works fine, but you can not set it up for Full Duplex operations with the > >AWE. Yes you can. I can (with my AWE64 Gold). Full duplex works fine with Cakewalk, but Cakewalk decides if it's on or off. Set Cakewalk to do simultaneos record/playback and have full duplex switched on in the AWE settings, and it will work. But playback is only 8-bit then. That's the problem. So only have simultaneos rec/play in Cakewalk when you need it, like when you're recording live vocals. Record is always 16-bit. > >Since the AWE can not handle full duplex using 44.1 KHZ It can. You need drivers newer than from mid-1997 though. I doubt full duplex is the cause of the problem. The other reasons you mentioned are more likely (cable/mixer/level problem)...

At 13:15 1998-04-13 -0500, Samples, Robert wrote: > >I know this isn't the place for this question but here it goes. I can't > >get my AWE64 GOLD to record audio in Cakewalk 6.0 using my N264. I just > >can't get it to record the audio from the LEFT/MONO into the LINE IN on > >the card. I guess you already know that you need two tracks to record stereo in Cakewalk? Set one track to left audio input and the other to right audio input. Set pan 0 on the first (hard left) and pan 127 on the second (hard right). Make sure volume level isn't 0 on any of the tracks.

At 19:56 1998-04-12 -0400, SA11075 wrote: > >Yes it's possible. You'll need to set up your sequence so that each drum is > >on a different channel (just set up four different channels with the same drum > >kit on each channel). Then pan the kick drum channel to "A", the snare to > >"B". Turn the toms and hat to "off" for panning, and then send the hat to > >send "C" (you have to be in edit mode if you to do this part) and the tom > >channel to send "D". Now go to the page right after the effects and select > >"ParallellSub" for the effects scheme. I use this all the time to dump parts > >to my multitrack. Let me know if it works. Also reduce fx amount (DRY:EFF) to normal levels. Else all outputs will have very wet fx.

Thanks for help! Outputs 3 and 4 are working fine now! Kenneth´s advice was precious. I also had to change some control data (contollers 10, 91 and 93) for pan setting. Now I have to change all the controller data for all my songs but it´s really worth the troube! Best wishes Erkki Erkkilä Finland

What you are describing can be done; I know firsthand. However, I'm not sure why it isn't working for you. Check the following: 1. Only the instruments you want out three and four are being sent to c/d 2. The Wet/Dry ratio on the reverb is not at "Fx" (i.e. 100%) 3. If you don't want the bass and kick in the main mix (L/R), make sure they are turned to "off" in the pan parameter. Make sure, however, that their levels are still reasonably high and they are not set to "mute". Only the Pan parameter should be set to "off" 4. Make sure you are using a separate channel for the kick drum part; otherwise the whole drum part will come through that send. since you did own the 01/W, most of this you have probably already done. Still, that's the best I can tell you without actually seeing the instrument. Good Luck!! alan

Yeah, "part" was a poor choice of terminology; I'm not sure how to describe what I'm saying, which is pretty bad considering I was trying to clarify something. "Part" would be defined as one multitimbral voice; the N is 16 part multitimbral--you can play 16 different timbres (programs) at once. It also responds on 16 midi channels, but I was trying to point out that these two things are independant of one another--that is, you can play sixteen multitimbral parts on less than 16 midi channels. In any case, you cannot play more than a total of sixteen different timbres (or programs) on the N at one time, even though you can play more than one on a given midi channel. One might be tempted to think, for example, that since I have a piano program and a string program both assigned to channel 1, that (since there are 15 midi channels tracks left) I could use 15 other programs as well, but this is not the case. To sum up what I was saying, then, the N will play (in seq mode) sixteen multitimbral parts (timbres, programs, etc.), allocated to up to sixteen midi channels, which will all go through two and no more than two effects processors. I hope that's more clear! :-) alan

I'm just making the smf's i download sound better by changing the kit, or whatever, nothing really important...thanx! _________________________________________________________ Mike Broer email: *@*.net ---------- > > From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: smf's > > Date: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 5:29 PM > > > > At 21:53 1998-04-12 -0400, Mike Broer wrote: > > >> > >Hello! I was wondering if there is a way to save the changes u make to an >> > >smf, i make changes WHILE it's playing..but then they go back, is there a >> > >way?? thanx in advance! =) > > > > As far as I know, you can't make permanent changes while the sequencer is > > playing. > > > > When you load an SMF into your Nx64, it will be converted to the Nx64 song > > format. Edit the song as usual, and then save it as an SMF again. > > > > Note that the Nx64 will put initial program/volume/reverb/chorus settings > > in a temporary buffer, which means that if you edit an SMF and save it > > again, these settings will be lost. The manuals says that this is normal > > procedure for the Nx64. You can force the Nx64 to store the settings > > permanently by "retyping" them. > > > > What are you trying to do?

To who this may concern, I would greatly appreciate it if I were to be taken off of the mailing list for the NX64. I Can't find the time time toread and answer the email. I am sorry. Azal Khan *@*.com

At 11:28 1998-04-16 -0400, Mike Broer wrote: > >I'm just making the smf's i download sound better by changing the kit, or > >whatever, nothing really important...thanx! Ok. Have you tried saving an edited SMF to disk, and then loading it back to an empty song in the internal sequencer of your Nx64? Do you lose all the instrument settings (including send C/D) then? There is a way to avoid this.

Hi guys can u tell me a reason. I dont seem to be able to record the AFTERTOUCHES fm my N to the CW6. Well atleast I can see them in the Event list. Are the hiding somewhere, or do i hv to turn on someting to record them...... Hasnat

You need to check both the record filters on cakewalk and the transmit/receive filters on the N. If you're sequencing in sequencer mode, I think these are found on one of the edit pages (the filters on the N). What are you controlling with aftertouch? Modulation or the effects? If you have a program with an effect being controlled by aftertouch and you go to sequencer mode, the effects will be changed to default and will not be aftertouch controlled unless you set them to be.

I need some suggestions for amps to run my keyboards thru. I'm currently using two small Crate bass amps and very dissatisfied with the lack of quality in sound. Although, most of the time I'm using head phones to compose, I need something that gives truer quality during performance. thanks, David

I've created a sysex dump request macro for Cakewalk, to be put in wincake.ini. Since it's small, I'll take the liberty to attach it to this mail. By the way, how do I use .drm files? Pasting into wincake.ini works, but... Deleted: Korg N264 & N364.drm An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Korg N264 & N364.drm" Attachments: Deleted: Korg N264 & N364.drm 211 bytes

I have some problems with requesting a dump of the current program via sysex. It seems that when you request the current program parameters, they are fetched from some temporary buffer instead of the program. I get around the problem by "updating" this buffer (or what it is) by pressing the cursor (to the right of the on-board display) up and then down before requesting. Then it works just fine. If anyone of you have found the same problem, then I guess it's just a non-serious bug in the Nx64 operating system...

Hi! The joystick on my N364 has gotten a bit "loose" sideways, to the left of the center. The stick doesn't go back to the center completely after doing a pitch bend to the left. Does anybody know an easy way to fix this, or should I send my N364 for repairs?

Help! I'm brand new at this MIDI stuff. How do I configure the N364 (MIDI-wise) to work with Freestyle/Opcode MIDI interface/Macintosh. Can anyone help me with the N364 settings so I can send/receive the MIDI info from Freestyle? Your help is appreciated! Chris Aliso Viejo, CA

> > I need some suggestions for amps to run my keyboards thru. I'm currently > > using two small Crate bass amps and very dissatisfied with the lack of Wow! Almost anything will be better than two bass amps! Two Crate keyboard amps, for example. But if it's for home, even a decent hi-fi system is better. If you can go for studio monitors, check out Event Electronics 20/20 series. www.event1.com All the best, jg

> > sysex. It seems that when you request the current program parameters, they > > are fetched from some temporary buffer instead of the program. I get around Most synths work like this: they have "x" number of patches, plus one - the Edit buffer. The Edit buffer contains a copy of the last patch you called into memory, or alternatively, a patch that is not in memory at all, because it's the last patch that you edited. What you're experiencing is probably not a bug. jg.

I'd send it in; probably a bad spring. If you open the case to fix it you'll probably void any warranty you have

Can anyone tell me the differences between the N364 and the N5 besides the sequencer? Are the sounds the same? Are they both compatible with X3 patches? Does the N364 have a better keyboard? I'll be using my Mac for sequencing (no live gigs) so I don't care much about the sequencer function. Does the N364 give me any other advantages over the N5 for the difference in price? Your collective wealth of knowledge is appreciated :)

I took the liberty to post my reply to the N-list: At 07:11 1998-04-24 -0400, Sneaksound wrote: > > I just picked up a Korg N5 and am looking for someone who might have created > >the instrument definitions so I can load them into Cakewalk...Do you know of > >anywhere I might find ? You're probably the first N5 owner on this list? As far as I know there are no Cakewalk definitions for the N5 yet, but you could use the N264/N364 definitions for basis and create one yourself. I guess most patch names aren't the same, but still... Oh, and a question for you: Can you switch portamento on/off via MIDI for any timbre in "multi" mode? > >Thanks for your web page You're welcome. There's not much there yet though. ;)

At 23:10 1998-04-24 +1000, J+G Grant wrote: >> >> It seems that when you request the current program parameters, >> >> they are fetched from some temporary buffer instead of the program. > > > >Most synths work like this: they have "x" number of patches, plus one - > > the Edit buffer. The Edit buffer contains a copy of the last patch you > >called into memory, or alternatively, a patch that is not in memory at > >all, because it's the last patch that you edited. What you're > >experiencing is probably not a bug. If it's not a bug, KORG must be a bit stupid. The SysEx chart clearly states that it's possible to request the current program. Requesting the current edit buffer isn't the same. They could have made additional "temporary edit buffer request" SysEx for both Prog and Combi mode. Or atleast mention in the Reference Guide what current program request actually does. I've asked KORG Support about this, so I'll get back to you all when/if they reply. I can sometimes agree that the Reference Guide lacks. On some pages, KORG refer to hexadecimal values in examples, while the table values are decimal. Beginners will definately have problems with this. Not to mention the MIDI reference charts. Urgh! ;)

At 08:24 1998-04-14 -0400, David Wright wrote: > >But at this point I've yet to figure out how to record drum kits, pattern > >sets, create patterns with drum kits,etc. I just need some simple drum > >sections to fill in for the music I write, rather than depend on the > >metronome to keep beat. I've read the books and followed the instuctions, > >but can't seem to get it. I've emptied the sequencer memory and reloaded > >pattern sets, but don't know how to get them incorperated into my songs. I'm > >sure it's simple. I just need the magic words. If I can jump this hurdle > >I'll move on to PC based programs (then I'll really need some good advice). Well, there's been a good deal of pattern related discussions in the past, so perhaps you could request the old N-list logs and read them. If you don't know how to do this, then I can request them for you. I'm afraid I can't help you, since I never use patterns. What I know is that pattern set 0 goes with song 0 and so on. You can copy patterns directly into a track in your song via the sequencer edit mode. Also you don't have to clear the internal sequencer to use patterns. If you start using external sequencers you won't need patterns anyway. ;)

At 14:58 1998-04-25 -0400, SA11075 wrote: > >I'd send it in; probably a bad spring. If you open the case to fix it you'll > >probably void any warranty you have I phoned the shop and they promised to fix it right away. Good service is nice. :)

At 00:31 1998-04-26 -0700, Chris Wirick wrote: > >Can anyone tell me the differences between the N364 and the N5 besides > >the sequencer? Are the sounds the same? Are they both compatible with X3 > >patches? Does the N364 have a better keyboard? I'll be using my Mac for > >sequencing (no live gigs) so I don't care much about the sequencer > >function. Does the N364 give me any other advantages over the N5 for > >the difference in price? Your collective wealth of knowledge is > >appreciated :) The number of progs/combis differ a lot: N364: 336 ROM + 200 RAM progs 200 ROM + 200 RAM combis N5: 1169 ROM + 100 RAM progs 302 ROM + 100 RAM combis I guess the N5 has all the ROM progs+combis that the N364 has, but I'm not sure. As you can see, the flexibility is better with the N364 (more RAM progs+combis), but the ROM numbers speak in the favour of the N5. The N5 has 12 MB sample ROM, the N364 has 8 MB. The N364 is 99% compatible with the X3. The N5 is probably partially compatible with both the N364 and the X3 when it comes to RAM progs+combis, but it doesn't support the 200+200 RAM sounds ofcourse. The keyboard quality is more or less the same. Does the N5 have a disk drive? I played with the N5 in a store a while ago, but I had to go through it quickly since I was in a hurry. The N364 has one. The N364 has two extra assignable audio outputs, which can sometimes be useful. The N5 has one more effect than the N364: resonance. This is very useful with analog sounds. Many of us N364 owners would like to have this effect, eventhough it can be simulated by using an overdrive parameter. The N5 has portamento and 4 useful assignable knobs on the front panel, and a graphical display (which is much better than the N364 traditional character display). All in all, I guess the N5 is a better buy. Not much better, but better. If you're not interested in the internal sequencer, there's no reason to buy an N364. There's no big point for us N264/N364 users to upgrade to an N1/N5 though.

Perhaps you, like me, have noticed that many programs have a lot lower volume in seq mode than in program mode. I used to think that's because the Nx64 lowers the volume in order to avoid clipping during playback, but that isn't the case at all. The only reasons are the effect settings and effect placement of the program. I assure you that if you copy the effect settings from any program into a sequencer song and set send C and D to PRG and PRG, you will get 100% reproduction of the original program. Some programs have an odd effect placement, such as a slap bass using parallell2 with send C/D as volume control (C46 "Slap It" in preload.pcg). This particular bass can be reprogrammed so it will keep the same volume even if a sequencer song is using parallell3 effect placement. This is done by raising both oscillator levels and reducing send C and D. What I'm saying is that you can edit most programs so they will have the same volume in seq mode as in prog mode.

It seems that MOTU's (Mark of the Unicorn) patch librarian/editor Unisyn, for Mac and Windows, has support for the N264/N364. Atleast they're mentioned in MOTU's latest KORG file update. Check http://www.motu.com/ Does anyone of you use Unisyn? I couldn't find the price of this product. Is it expensive?

At 09:43 PM 4/27/98 +0200, you wrote: > >It seems that MOTU's (Mark of the Unicorn) patch librarian/editor Unisyn, > >for Mac and Windows, has support for the N264/N364. Atleast they're > >mentioned in MOTU's latest KORG file update. Check http://www.motu.com/ > > > >Does anyone of you use Unisyn? I couldn't find the price of this product. > >Is it expensive? Its pretty expensive for the package, 199$ or something like that. I think Xedit would be a better buy-50$ and its 99% compatible with the n264/364

At 22:53 1998-04-27 -0400, Steve Wallis wrote: >> >>Does anyone of you use Unisyn? I couldn't find the price of this product. >> >>Is it expensive? > > > >Its pretty expensive for the package, 199$ or something like that. I think > >Xedit would be a better buy-50$ and its 99% compatible with the n264/364 Bah, I expected Unisyn to be expensive, but not THAT expensive. Does Xedit accept multisamples above #340 and parallell/serial sub effect placements without converting/manipulating? If it does, then it's 100% compatible with the Nx64 (except for RAM sound card handling). If not, I guess it should be easy for the Xedit author to include Nx64 support, since it's so close to the X3.

At 09:39 PM 4/28/98 +0200, you wrote: > >At 22:53 1998-04-27 -0400, Steve Wallis wrote: > > >>> >>>Does anyone of you use Unisyn? I couldn't find the price of this product. >>> >>>Is it expensive? >> >> >> >>Its pretty expensive for the package, 199$ or something like that. I think >> >>Xedit would be a better buy-50$ and its 99% compatible with the n264/364 > > > >Bah, I expected Unisyn to be expensive, but not THAT expensive. > > > >Does Xedit accept multisamples above #340 and parallell/serial sub effect > >placements without converting/manipulating? If it does, then it's 100% > >compatible with the Nx64 (except for RAM sound card handling). > > > >If not, I guess it should be easy for the Xedit author to include Nx64 > >support, since it's so close to the X3. > > It doesnt but thats not too big a problem(at least for me). Im still debating if i should register the prog or not, think I might wait a bit and see what those coders who are working on the n346 editors come up with. Would be nice to have a dedicated n*64 editor anyways.. I did write the coder of Xedit a couple months back and asked him if he had any plans to make it more compatible with the n364, he said he had no plans for that whatsoever. Oh well, cant win em all I guess. Btw has everyone here checked out that DRGN program yet? (Online sequencer) The things a riot, you can jam with people in realtime over the inet, and its all free(doesnt get better than that:) For those of you who havent tried it yet check out www.resrocket.com

Amature input into all these UNISYS stuff........ what exactly does it do for N364? What can u do with it? hasnat :) > >At 22:53 1998-04-27 -0400, Steve Wallis wrote: > > >>> >>>Does anyone of you use Unisyn? I couldn't find the price of this product. >>> >>>Is it expensive? >> >> >> >>Its pretty expensive for the package, 199$ or something like that. I think >> >>Xedit would be a better buy-50$ and its 99% compatible with the n264/364 > > > >Bah, I expected Unisyn to be expensive, but not THAT expensive. > > > >Does Xedit accept multisamples above #340 and parallell/serial sub effect > >placements without converting/manipulating? If it does, then it's 100% > >compatible with the Nx64 (except for RAM sound card handling). > > > >If not, I guess it should be easy for the Xedit author to include Nx64 > >support, since it's so close to the X3.

Allright, I know my way around the N264 fairly good now thanks to laboring over the manual, talking to the keyboard tech at my local Korg dealer, and all the valuable info from the N-list. I'm ready to advance to using my computer as a sequencer. The following are a few questions I have so I can get started: What type of hardware, such as sound card, midi hookup, etc., do I need to install in the computer? How much memory do I need, to work with a typical song? What type of software should I get and where do I find It? Will I be able to record the program and combi voices with thier original settings? I have a Dell 486/66 computer with 2.5 gigs of hard drive and 16 megs of ram.

A few further comments.... sorry it's a few days late. A lot of the N5's programs are variations on GM, to take into account GS and XG soundsets. These are sometimes rather subtle, the number of usable programs is not really as large as it may seem. This extra compatibility with GS and XG may be a plus for the N5 for some people. But for others, the 200 RAM programs on the N364 may be more useful. And the number of total programs on the N3 (536) is substantial after all. Then don't forget that extra sounds are easily loaded from disk on the N364, as opposed to having to hook up your computer to load stuff into the N5. No, there's no sequencer on the N5, so no disk drive. Also on the N364's favour may be the RPPR part of the sequencer. Even if you use a computer sequencer, these can give you instant starting points, and "quick starts", which we all need now and then. Some extra stuff, if you want to wade through it..... > > The N5 has 12 MB sample ROM, the N364 has 8 MB. The extra 4 meg is, I believe, mainly made up of sound effects and extra stuff for GS and XG. For example, there are no additional grand piano samples. oops, I nearly forgot, the N1 has an extra 2 mB of very nice piano, so it has 14 mB in total. > > The keyboard quality is more or less the same. Yes, they are both light-ish keyboards of reasonable quality, and both have aftertouch. > > The N5 has one more effect than the N364: resonance. This is very useful > > with analog sounds. Many of us N364 owners would like to have this effect, > > eventhough it can be simulated by using an overdrive parameter. As the resonant effect takes up one of the two available effects, and doesn't work within a program the way a resonant filter usually does, I believe it is a little limited, unfortunately. > > The N5 has portamento and 4 useful assignable knobs on the front panel, and > > a graphical display (which is much better than the N364 traditional > > character display). Yes. > > There's no big point for us N264/N364 users to upgrade to an N1/N5 though. Probably not, unless GS/XG is important, or an 88-note keyboard (N1), or, or.... Although I'm an avid computer sequencer user, I admit to a liking for RPPR, as fiddly as it is. All the best..... jg.

At 07:37 1998-04-29 -0400, David Wright wrote: > >I have a Dell 486/66 computer with 2.5 gigs of hard drive and 16 megs of ram. > > > >What type of hardware, such as sound card, midi hookup, etc., do I need to > >install in the computer? How much memory do I need, to work with a typical > >song? What type of software should I get and where do I find It? Will I be > >able to record the program and combi voices with thier original settings? It all depends on what you want to do. If you're only going to record/play MIDI music, you won't have to expand your computer much (MIDI sequencers aren't very resource hungry). But if you're going to record/play both MIDI and audio, you will probably need a faster CPU and a fast hard drive. The faster your system, the more audio channels can it handle. Are you using windows 3.1 or 95 or something else? If you're running win95, then get atleast 16 more MB of RAM. Not that you absolutely need it, but you'll like the speed increase. You'll need a MIDI interface of some kind. Many sound cards have built-in MIDI interfaces (such as the Sound Blaster series). You could buy a separate interface too, but they're often expensive. If you're going to record/play audio, you must have a sound card. If you want pro quality low-noise audio, you'll have to get an expensive card (such as the Audio Media III), but if you allow a bit of noise a Sound Blaster or any other low-cost card will be enough. Software... well, if you want to record/play both MIDI and audio, you'll need an audio-capable MIDI sequencer such as Cakewalk Pro Audio, Cubase VST, Logic Audio, etc etc. These are professional sequencers. There are also cheaper "begginer" versions of some of them. For instance, the cheap/beginner version of Cubase is Cubasis Audio. This particular program comes free (including manual) with the Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold sound card. If you want to record program/combis from your Nx64 in their "original sound" (i.e. in prog or combi more respectively), you can record them as audio samples. I always do.

At 15:54 1998-04-14 +0200, Joakim Lundberg wrote: > >Does anyone know if cakewalk 7 is out? There seem to be some kind of unofficial release candidate versions of Cakewalk 7. I guess they won't release it officially until they're done beta testing. This should be soon...

I just got my N364, and am having trouble figuring out how to add combination sounds to the sequencer... the manual doesn't address it, but it also doesn't say you can't.... also, does anyone know if a training video is available from Korg on this model? The reference manual isn't in Japanese, but it's not overly user-friendly, either....

At 06:01 PM 4/30/98 +0200, you wrote: > >At 07:37 1998-04-29 -0400, David Wright wrote: > > >> >>I have a Dell 486/66 computer with 2.5 gigs of hard drive and 16 megs of ram. >> >> >> >>What type of hardware, such as sound card, midi hookup, etc., do I need to >> >>install in the computer? How much memory do I need, to work with a typical >> >>song? What type of software should I get and where do I find It? Will I be >> >>able to record the program and combi voices with thier original settings? > > > >It all depends on what you want to do. > > > >If you're only going to record/play MIDI music, you won't have to expand > >your computer much (MIDI sequencers aren't very resource hungry). But if > >you're going to record/play both MIDI and audio, you will probably need a > >faster CPU and a fast hard drive. The faster your system, the more audio > >channels can it handle. > > > >Are you using windows 3.1 or 95 or something else? If you're running win95, > >then get atleast 16 more MB of RAM. Not that you absolutely need it, but > >you'll like the speed increase. > > > >You'll need a MIDI interface of some kind. Many sound cards have built-in > >MIDI interfaces (such as the Sound Blaster series). You could buy a > >separate interface too, but they're often expensive. > > > >If you're going to record/play audio, you must have a sound card. If you > >want pro quality low-noise audio, you'll have to get an expensive card > >(such as the Audio Media III), but if you allow a bit of noise a Sound > >Blaster or any other low-cost card will be enough. > > > >Software... well, if you want to record/play both MIDI and audio, you'll > >need an audio-capable MIDI sequencer such as Cakewalk Pro Audio, Cubase > >VST, Logic Audio, etc etc. These are professional sequencers. There are > >also cheaper "begginer" versions of some of them. For instance, the > >cheap/beginner version of Cubase is Cubasis Audio. This particular program > >comes free (including manual) with the Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold sound card. > > > >If you want to record program/combis from your Nx64 in their "original > >sound" (i.e. in prog or combi more respectively), you can record them as > >audio samples. I always do. > > > >I do have windows 95 and a sound blaster sound card, which is about 3 years old. I'm mainly interested in recording audio. I would also like to record vocals and acoustic instruments via mics. Will I be able to do this thru a sound card or do I need to record it on another platform, then rout it to the PC? I can't decide if I should make the investment to upgrade my PC's ram, CPU, and sound card or go for a stand alone multi track hard disk recorder such as the Fostex DMT-8vl. What kind of price range differences would I be looking at? What speed would my PC need to be to handle goals I mentioned?

is there any software to load sounds into the n5? if so, where could i get the software/patches? thanks. -gmoney

At 22:22 1998-04-30 -0500, G. S. wrote: > >is there any software to load sounds into the n5? if so, where could i > >get the software/patches? thanks. > >-gmoney Check KORG USA's page (www.korg.com). I believe they sell the needed cable and drivers for the N5 on their site, but I'm not certain....

I hope it's ok with you other people on the list that we have this off-topic discussion? > >I do have windows 95 and a sound blaster sound card, which is about 3 years > >old. I'm mainly interested in recording audio. I would also like to record > >vocals and acoustic instruments via mics. Will I be able to do this thru a > >sound card or do I need to record it on another platform, then rout it to > >the PC? > > I can't decide if I should make the investment to upgrade my PC's ram, CPU, > >and sound card or go for a stand alone multi track hard disk recorder such > >as the Fostex DMT-8vl. What kind of price range differences would I be > >looking at? What speed would my PC need to be to handle goals I mentioned? Well, I know nothing about non-computer audio workstations, so I can't advise you in that topic. A guess is that the non-computer stuff gets a lot more expensive and less flexible.... If you're going to record audio, I definately advise you to get rid of your old Sound Blaster card. If you're ONLY going to record audio, then get an Audio Media III card or something like it (with several inputs and outputs). That's a professional quality sound card. If you're going to record several audio sources at the same time, you'll need a fast hard drive (because of the way stereo wav files are written to disk in real-time). If you're going to apply real-time effects to your audio recordings during playback (with a program supporting add-on effects, such as Cakewalk Pro Audio), you'll definately need a faster CPU. And as said before, you can never have too much RAM. RAM is cheap nowadays, and so is an ordinary Pentium CPU. First check if your mother board supports a Pentium. If not, you'll have to buy a new mother board.

At 18:51 1998-04-30 -0400, Chuck Cutler wrote: > >I just got my N364, and am having trouble figuring out how to add > >combination sounds to the sequencer... the manual doesn't address it, > >but it also doesn't say you can't.... This is a very common problem that will have to be addressed in the FAQ that's currently under construction. Anyway, the manual does address using combis in the sequencer. Take a look at page 153 in the (English) Reference Guide. There it's explained how you can copy a combination to either tracks 1 through 8 or 9 through 16. Oh, and something thing to notice: if you copy a combination that uses less than 8 timbres, it will still copy 8 timbres, i.e. including the "program off" timbres. Now, when you've copied your combination to the sequencer, another problem will arise. If you decide to copy the effect settings from the original combination to the sequencer song, you'll overwrite the song's effect settings. There are no more than two effect processors as a total.... Choose your song's effect settings wisely. > >also, does anyone know if a training video is available from Korg on this > >model? The reference manual isn't in Japanese, but it's not overly user->friendly, either.... Take a look at www.korg.com. They have a page where they sell all kinds of accessories, manuals, extra keys and stuff. It might be that they have videos, but I don't know. You could also ask KORG USA's support: *@*.com I agree the manuals can be cumbersome.

Is there any way to adjust the relative volume of a particular track in a song to bring out a certain instrument without affecting the rest of the tracks??

Thanks for the reply. I'm assuming that if you copy a combi to 8 different tracks that you can then record a sequence to all of those tracks at once to keep that sound?? *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 5/1/98, at 9:30 AM, Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> wrote: > > > >At 18:51 1998-04-30 -0400, Chuck Cutler wrote: > > >> >>I just got my N364, and am having trouble figuring out how to add >> >>combination sounds to the sequencer... the manual doesn't address it, >> >>but it also doesn't say you can't.... > > > >This is a very common problem that will have to be addressed in the FAQ > >that's currently under construction. > > > >Anyway, the manual does address using combis in the sequencer. Take a look > >at page 153 in the (English) Reference Guide. > > > >There it's explained how you can copy a combination to either tracks 1 > >through 8 or 9 through 16. Oh, and something thing to notice: if you copy a > >combination that uses less than 8 timbres, it will still copy 8 timbres, > >i.e. including the "program off" timbres. > > > >Now, when you've copied your combination to the sequencer, another problem > >will arise. If you decide to copy the effect settings from the original > >combination to the sequencer song, you'll overwrite the song's effect > >settings. There are no more than two effect processors as a total.... > >Choose your song's effect settings wisely. > > >> >>also, does anyone know if a training video is available from Korg on this >> >>model? The reference manual isn't in Japanese, but it's not overly > >user->friendly, either.... > > > >Take a look at www.korg.com. They have a page where they sell all kinds of > >accessories, manuals, extra keys and stuff. It might be that they have > >videos, but I don't know. You could also ask KORG USA's support: > >*@*.com > > > >I agree the manuals can be cumbersome. *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE ***********

At 20:20 1998-05-01 -0400, Chuck Cutler wrote: > >Is there any way to adjust the relative volume of a particular track in > >a song to bring out a certain instrument without affecting the rest of > >thetracks?? Yes! Use MIDI controller 11 - expression! Take a look at page 126 in the Reference Guide for more info on what expression does.

At 20:22 1998-05-01 -0400, Chuck Cutler wrote: > >Thanks for the reply. I'm assuming that if you copy a combi to > >8 different tracks that you can then record a sequence to all of > >those tracks at once to keep that sound?? Yes! Play a note on any of the tracks occupied by the combi, and all combi timbres will sound! This is thanks to the occupied tracks being set to the same midi channel. And another thing: If you've copied a combi with less than 8 timbres to the sequencer, you might want to use the tracks that the combi doesn't use. Then you'll have to change the midi channel for each of the unused tracks to something else than the combi uses. When in sequencer mode (not sequencer edit mode) simply press the third of the eight buttons to the right of the volume slider, and then edit channel number. Cheers!

Hello, i'm just wondering. which of the two continous Expression pedals that are mentioned in the N264 manual should i get? are there any cheaper "generic no-name" brands that are compatible and just as good for a cheaper price? any input would be appreciated. thanks -kaliss

Korg's EXP-2 works. I don't know about "generic" ones. jg. > > i'm just wondering. which of the two continous Expression pedals

Has the phones output got less quality and/or volume than the regular outputs 1 & 2? Up until now, I've been feeding outputs 1 & 2 through my sound card, which makes it possible to record audio easily. Tonight I suddenly had an idea I should have had a long time ago: to feed outputs 1 & 2 directly to the mixer, and the phones output to the sound card. Now I can play my N364 even when the computer isn't on, and won't have to switch cables if I want to record anything through the sound card. I don't want to risk bad audio recording quality caused by the N364 phone output though.....

-----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> Date: Sunday, May 03, 1998 10:33 PM Subject: Phones output > >Has the phones output got less quality and/or volume than the regular > >outputs 1 & 2? > > > >Up until now, I've been feeding outputs 1 & 2 through my sound card, which > >makes it possible to record audio easily. Tonight I suddenly had an idea I > >should have had a long time ago: to feed outputs 1 & 2 directly to the > >mixer, and the phones output to the sound card. > > > >Now I can play my N364 even when the computer isn't on, and won't have to > >switch cables if I want to record anything through the sound card. > > > >I don't want to risk bad audio recording quality caused by the N364 phone > >output though.....

I think that the headphones are exactly the same as outputs one and two. But the manual only states that the the sound is the same (e.g. no 3 and 4 available through the headphones). I have tried back and forth and to my ears I can't notice any difference. But there may be an impedance difference which could affect loading levels. But at -10/+4 levels I doubt that this would be noticeable. I was wondering why you have to do it that way anyway. I feed outputs 1 and 2 to my mixer's chan 1 and 2 panning left and right respectively. The master output goes to my soundcard. I use the mixers monitor output to listen to my master mix or the mix through the soundcard by using the "tape/master mix" push button. Perhaps your mixer does not provide this function. I'm using a small Spirit Folio Notepad 6 channel mixer. Also, I've been contemplating the merits of using outputs 3 and 4 but can't really see any compelling reason that I should do so. If I'm missing something let me know. But I think parallel effects defaults to 1 and 2 by being mixed internally. Breaking it out may give more direct control over wet/dry but I can't think of another reason. Is it possible to route keyboard split(s) to 1 and 2 or 3 and 4. If I could do that, then I can see some use for it. Frank -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> Date: Sunday, May 03, 1998 10:33 PM Subject: Phones output > >Has the phones output got less quality and/or volume than the regular > >outputs 1 & 2? > > > >Up until now, I've been feeding outputs 1 & 2 through my sound card, which > >makes it possible to record audio easily. Tonight I suddenly had an idea I > >should have had a long time ago: to feed outputs 1 & 2 directly to the > >mixer, and the phones output to the sound card. > > > >Now I can play my N364 even when the computer isn't on, and won't have to > >switch cables if I want to record anything through the sound card. > > > >I don't want to risk bad audio recording quality caused by the N364 phone > >output though.....

hello. You can order korg foot pedals from Skip's Music in Sacramento, California. -----Original Message----- From: Schulz, John <John.*@*.COM> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 5:14 AM Subject: Re: Expression Pedals > >It is my understanding that only Korg pedals will work with the N364. > >There seems to be a different impedance range for Korg pedals than other > >manufacturers. I don't know why. I myself have tried several Roland > >pedals and a generic one (I forget who made it). None of them worked. > >They all only allowed me to vary the volume/expression parameter to > >about 1/3 of full scale. > > > >This is too bad because although the Korg pedals look like high quality > >pedals (I've never acutally seen one), they are also very expensive. I > >don't really think they want to sell them very badly. Or maybe they > >think they have us over a barrel because no one else makes one that > >works. > > > >Anyway, so far my N364 remains peddal-less too. If anyone has more info > >on where to get one, I would love to read about it. > > > >John

It is my understanding that only Korg pedals will work with the N364. There seems to be a different impedance range for Korg pedals than other manufacturers. I don't know why. I myself have tried several Roland pedals and a generic one (I forget who made it). None of them worked. They all only allowed me to vary the volume/expression parameter to about 1/3 of full scale. This is too bad because although the Korg pedals look like high quality pedals (I've never acutally seen one), they are also very expensive. I don't really think they want to sell them very badly. Or maybe they think they have us over a barrel because no one else makes one that works. Anyway, so far my N364 remains peddal-less too. If anyone has more info on where to get one, I would love to read about it. John

Yes, you can send it a midi control message number 7 on the channel of the track you want to affect. Or you can do it manually from the keyboard by changing the volume parameter on the track.

I don't know which of the two to buy since I don't actually own one, but I don't advise buying a non-Korg pedal. I tried a Zoom expression pedal in the jack, and it works, but I think the range is too wide; it's very impractical to use. Also, nobody tells you how their expression pedals are configured, so unless you buy their brand you could end up with one that doesn't work.

It's certainly possible to route splits to 1-2 and 3-4. Just use one of the "sub" output algorithms (in the fx processor section, page 7E, I think) and use the C-D sends for the sounds you want to go to 3 and 4. I use 3 and 4 a lot because I sequence things and then dump them to analog 8 track. Since I don't have a sync box (or a big enough board) I have to lay all the sequenced parts to tape, but by using 3 and 4 I can put down up to 4 separate tracks from the Korg rather than just two. Personally, I could have done with as many outputs as they wanted to give me.

At 23:03 1998-04-30 +1000, J+G Grant wrote: > >oops, I nearly forgot, the N1 has an extra 2 mB of very nice piano, so > >it has 14 mB in total. Slight correction: it has 6 MB extra samples, so the total is 18 MB. The other 4 MB are distributed on a few extra multisamples which are probably of very high quality? Haven't even seen the N1, so I don't know... > >As the resonant effect takes up one of the two available effects, and > >doesn't work within a program the way a resonant filter usually does, I > >believe it is a little limited, unfortunately. I agree. The resonance should be "built in" with the filters, and not be an effect. KORG should have done this when they released the N264/N364, but I guess they skipped it because of incompatibility with the X3 and added developing cost. But dang, I would have loved it. :)

Peter, Yes, 1/3 of the current volume setting. Actually, if I remember this right, the way I tested the pedals was to do a pedal calibration. The little bar graph only went about 1/3 of the way toward full scale. Could you tell me how you built your footswitch? I might try my hand at that myself. The expression pedal is another story though. We would have to figure out the range of the potentiometer needed and whether it uses the center tap and one side or the center tap and two sides. Some of the expression pedals I've seen have three conductors on the 1/4" plug that goes into the keyboard. I tried to buzz one out once but didn't really spend enough time on it to figure it out. I guess I should have taken better notes. I tried to ask Korg Support about the details of N364 expression pedal input but they couldn't (or wouldn't) really help me in that area. Has anyone on this list seen a technical repair manual for the Korg N364? John Peter wrote: > > I assume when you say only 1/3 of full scale, it was 1/3 of wherever the > > volume control was set? Or does the expression pedal override the volume > > control? (Sorry, don't know about these things). > > > > I'm interested because I would like to make one rather than buying it. I > > built a foot switch for the Korg and that worked successfully. It only cost > > me around $15.

Hi everyone! I have had a problem with my 364 when using effect called "Rotary speaker" in sequencer mode. In program mode I use an expression pedal (I use Korg EXP-2) to switch the effect on and off and it works just fine (and sounds great, too). But, for some reason, it doesn´t work in sequencer mode. Does anybody know a solution for this. Thanks Erkki Erkkilä

Building a footswitch is very easy. It is simply a momentary on switch. Parts you will need: 1. A solid plastic box, preferably with a sloping front on which to mount the switch 2. A momentary on or momentary off switch. A switch designed for heavy use or designed as a footswitch is what's required here. Momentary off means that the switch is off only when pressed. Once the button is released it returns to being on. 3. Two core wire to connect the footswitch to the N364. 4. 1/4" mono jack to plug into the N364. Connect the switch to the two wires at one end, and to the mono jack at the other. Plug in and test. You may have to change the switch polarity in the global parameters. Peter > > Could you tell me how you built your footswitch? I might try my hand at > > that myself. The expression pedal is another story though. We would have > > to figure out the range of the potentiometer needed and whether it uses > > the center tap and one side or the center tap and two sides. Some of the > > expression pedals I've seen have three conductors on the 1/4" plug that > > goes into the keyboard. I tried to buzz one out once but didn't really > > spend enough time on it to figure it out. I guess I should have taken > > better notes. > > > > I tried to ask Korg Support about the details of N364 expression pedal > > input but they couldn't (or wouldn't) really help me in that area. > > > > Has anyone on this list seen a technical repair manual for the Korg > > N364? > > > > John > > > > Peter wrote: >> > > I assume when you say only 1/3 of full scale, it was 1/3 of wherever > > the >> > > volume control was set? Or does the expression pedal override the > > volume >> > > control? (Sorry, don't know about these things). >> > > >> > > I'm interested because I would like to make one rather than buying it. > > I >> > > built a foot switch for the Korg and that worked successfully. It only > > cost >> > > me around $15.

i cant seem to get the resonance 'effect' to work on the n5? it adds the resonance to it, but i just cant realtime adjust the amount of reso. witht he knobs? can someone explain this a little more to me how this works please? thanks! - gmoney

At 22:29 1998-05-05 -0500, G. S. wrote: > >i cant seem to get the resonance 'effect' to work on the n5? it adds the > >resonance to it, but i just cant realtime adjust the amount of reso. witht he > >knobs? can someone explain this a little more to me how this works please? > >thanks! I don't have an N5, but I guess the effects work the same as for the Nx64, i.e. that you can control the intensity. Assign one of the knobs to the intensity of the effect processor that's running the resonance effect.

At 22:39 1998-05-05 +0300, Erkki Erkkil wrote: > >I have had a problem with my 364 when using effect called "Rotary speaker" > >in sequencer mode. In program mode I use an expression pedal (I use Korg > >EXP-2) to switch the effect on and off and it works just fine (and sounds great, > >too). But, for some reason, it doesn´t work in sequencer mode. Does anybody know > >a solution for this. Are you controlling effect intensity with the pedal? If so, copy the effect settings of the particular organ program you're using to the sequencer song, and you should still be able to control the intensity with the pedal. The only thing you can't use in sequencer mode is the value slider. Check the source setting of seq/prog edit mode page 7A or 7C, one page to the right.

Just thought I'd announce my newly redesigned N-related homepage to the public (although some of you have probably already visited it): http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/ I've put my quick Nx64 SysEx reference text there, together with my new & complete Cakewalk instrument definitions + dump request macros. These should also be found on the public N-series ftp site. My latest made-with-N364 song in mp3 format (can't spread it as a SNG + PCG because I've audio-recorded one of the tracks and don't use N364 drums) can also be found there.... I'll try to add N-series info & stuff to my page continuously. Comments & suggestions are welcome!

At 23:17 1998-05-03 -0500, Francis Graves wrote: > >I think that the headphones are exactly the same as outputs one and two. But > >the manual only states that the the sound is the same (e.g. no 3 and 4 > >available through the headphones). I have tried back and forth and to my > >ears I can't notice any difference. But there may be an impedance difference > >which could affect loading levels. But at -10/+4 levels I doubt that this > >would be noticeable. I can hear a volume difference, and when I checked with Sound Forge, I found that it's a significant volume difference between the regular outputs and the phones output. In my test, the phones output has an average RMS of -21 dB while outputs 1 & 2 has an average -16 dB RMS. Could this perhaps be a result of a bad audio cable from the phones output to my sound card? Shouldn't there be a lot of noise then? There isn't. I can remedy this situation by turning the master volume of my N364 to max, which will raise the phones output to a sufficient level, and then lower the input level on my mixer (which I shove output 1 & 2 into), but somehow I feel that the internal DAC of the N364 that sends to the phones output is a cheap one? Perhaps outputs 1 & 2 and the phones output use the same DACs?? Shouldn't be a volume difference then.... > >I was wondering why you have to do it that way anyway. I feed outputs 1 and > >2 to my mixer's chan 1 and 2 panning left and right respectively. The master > >output goes to my soundcard. I use the mixers monitor output to listen to my > >master mix or the mix through the soundcard by using the "tape/master mix" > >push button. > > > >Perhaps your mixer does not provide this function. I'm using a small Spirit > >Folio Notepad 6 channel mixer. My mixer is extremely feature-less, and only provides a master output (no returns, monitor outputs etc). It's cheap and virtually noise-less, but now I see I could use a monitor output. Dang. :)

Hello, in the event list in cakewalk 5.0, there's no place to put a bank select message. There is for patch change, aftertouch, etc...everything except bank select. Therefore I can't get it to transmit a bank select message, which is very fustrating. Any ideas??

At 22:20 1998-04-28 -0400, Steve Wallis wrote: >> >>Does Xedit accept multisamples above #340 and parallell/serial sub effect >> >>placements without converting/manipulating? If it does, then it's 100% >> >>compatible with the Nx64 (except for RAM sound card handling). > > > >It doesnt but thats not too big a problem(at least for me). It is for me... hmm.. > >I did write the coder of Xedit a couple months back and asked him if he > >had any plans to make it more compatible with the n364, he said he had > >no plans for that whatsoever. Oh well, cant win em all I guess. I guess he didn't want to change the name to NXedit? Hehe. Else it should be very easy to add N364 support.

At 21:57 1998-04-28 -0700, Hasnat M wrote: > >Amature input into all these UNISYS stuff........ what exactly does it > >do for N364? What can u do with it? I've had the chance to try UniSyn now. It can edit program/combi/effect/global settings graphically (though the user interface is a bit unpleasant). It uses program B92 to B99 for temporary edit buffers, which I didn't find out until after some of my new sounds had been overwritten. Grrrr.. ;) Anyway, MOTU (Mark of the Unicorn) have released a KORG synth definition update which is supposed to include the N264/N364, but this is bullshit. I downloaded the new drivers, but they were the same as the old ones, except for a date-change. This means that I had to use the X3 definitions.... Bah! Anyway, UniSyn is old, expensive and still has no Nx64 support... I hope some of the coders on this list can do a parameter editor soon. It's possible to use other generic SysEx programs as librarians for the Nx64, but I haven't tried it yet. I'll have a go at SysEx Solution '97 for windows soon, and see if it is useful.

At 20:11 1998-05-07 -0400, Mike Broer wrote: > >Hello, in the event list in cakewalk 5.0, there's no place to put a bank > >select message. There is for patch change, aftertouch, etc...everything > >except bank select. Therefore I can't get it to transmit a bank select > >message, which is very fustrating. Any ideas?? A Cakewalk patch change should include both a bank change and a program change in the same event? If you only want a bank change, use midi controllers 0 (Bank Select MSB) and 32 (Bank Select LSB). Check page 4 in the N264/N364 Reference Guide to see which values to set for each bank.

You have to send your control information on channel 1 (or whatever the global receive channel is sent to). It is irrelevant what channel the actual intstrument is set to; since the effects themselves are global, any control information (footswitch, slider, etc) must be sent on the global, which defaults to channel 1.

There's no dedicated MIDI bank select message like there are aftertouch or note messages. Bank selection is done using MIDI controllers, specifically 0 and 32. I think there'll be an FAQ up pretty soon with all this stuff on it.

Ken, I saw your web page the other day; it looks real nice!

Hi, Does anybody have experience with the Korg G4 rotary speaker simulator ? Is it much better than the standard rotary speaker effect of the N264 ? Greetz, Fedde Bouwman

I would imagine phones output are going to be at a lower level than the regular output. This is typically the case with electronic equipment. Unfortunately the korg specs have no description of output or impedance levels for any of the outputs. Peter > > At 23:17 1998-05-03 -0500, Francis Graves wrote: > > >> > >I think that the headphones are exactly the same as outputs one and two. But >> > >the manual only states that the the sound is the same (e.g. no 3 and 4 >> > >available through the headphones). I have tried back and forth and to my >> > >ears I can't notice any difference. But there may be an impedance difference >> > >which could affect loading levels. But at -10/+4 levels I doubt that this >> > >would be noticeable. > > > > I can hear a volume difference, and when I checked with Sound Forge, I > > found that it's a significant volume difference between the regular outputs > > and the phones output. In my test, the phones output has an average RMS of > > -21 dB while outputs 1 & 2 has an average -16 dB RMS. > > > > Could this perhaps be a result of a bad audio cable from the phones output > > to my sound card? Shouldn't there be a lot of noise then? There isn't.

I attached a potentiometer to the expression pedal output over the weekend. I can successfully modify the volume over the entire range, or at least to the range set by the master volume slider. I used a 120k log potentiometer connected as a variable resistor to the 1/4" mono jack plugged into the N364. Under the global parameters there is a menu item which enables the expression pedal to be calibrated by the N364 by rotating it through its whole range. The only issue now is to build a cheap expression pedal. Peter

> > Does anybody have experience with the Korg G4 rotary speaker simulator ? > > Is it much better than the standard rotary speaker effect of the N264 ? imho, yes, the G4 is better. The G4 is basically the same as the Trinity size 4 rotary speaker, and is to my ears, very close to the real thing. jg..

Hi everybody ! This message is for those N364/264 users who happen to own Boss VT-1 voice transformer and who are techno-dance music oriented. I've found this sound, and want you guys to tell me what you think about it. O'Key, here's the deal: patch your N mono out into VT-1 in. On N, select factory preset B 06 (FatRezBass). On VT-1: Octave fader: -10, Formant fader: +10, Mix Balance: +10 (i.e. 100% wet signal), Rverb: set it to 2-3 not higher. Now, play some patterns in the lower half of the keyboard AND try moving FORMANT fader down and then up and then down etc. I'm not on the list, so here's my e-mail, I would greatly appreciate your feedback: *@*.columbia.edu Cheers, S-Machine

Peter, A log potentiometer! Of course a log potentiometer! Why didn't I think of that? . . . What's a log potentiometer? In my business we only deal with linear pots so I don't know much about log pots. Where can I get a 120K log pot? Are there better brands and worse ones? Maybe ones that can take a mechanical beating? I thought that the expression pedal input was a three conductor input. Hmmm. Can't remember where I got that idea. Well anyway, a log pot you say, huh? I can't wait to try it. John Peter Writes: > > I attached a potentiometer to the expression pedal output over the > > weekend. I can successfully modify the volume over the entire range, or > > at least to the range set by the master volume slider. > > > > I used a 120k log potentiometer connected as a variable resistor to the > > 1/4" mono jack plugged into the N364. > > > > Under the global parameters there is a menu item which enables the > > expression pedal to be calibrated by the N364 by rotating it through its > > whole range. > > > > The only issue now is to build a cheap expression pedal.

A log pot is also called an audio pot; it's simply logarithmic instead of linear in slope. I also thought the expression pedal input was a three-conductor. I have a pedal made by zoom that uses a TRS cable (3 conductor) to plug in. It works, even though the range isn't quite right. But if you say it works, I believe you. Of course, you can also plug a footswitch into that jack (which is what I do), which would be the same scenario as a pot except that it's either fully on or fully off. I wonder why the three conductor thing? Maybe it's just Zoom. I don't know.

> > A log pot is also called an audio pot; it's simply logarithmic instead of > > linear in slope. > > I only tried a logarithmic potentiometer. Log pots are usually used for volume, and of course it works better wired one way rather than the reverse. > > I also thought the expression pedal input was a three-conductor. I have a > > pedal made by zoom that uses a TRS cable (3 conductor) to plug in. It works, > > even though the range isn't quite right. But if you say it works, I believe > > you. The socket is only a mono socket. Therefore it uses two wires. I could detect no voltage on the second pin of a stereo plug in this socket. > > Of course, you can also plug a footswitch into that jack (which is what I do), > > which would be the same scenario as a pot except that it's either fully on or > > fully off. I wonder why the three conductor thing? Maybe it's just Zoom. I > > don't know. Yep, a footswitch will work also. You just have to have the right setting in the global parameters.

I loaded a group of pattern sets (.pst) and coordinating songs (.sng) files on my N264 and that seemed to change all my settings for the first song (s0). I had not yet recorded any thing. Also, I had cleared the sequencer memory and reloaded these files. It does the same thing. Some of the settings, it changed, were: setting all tracks to program off, all midi channels to 01G. The other song locations S1- S9 are okay. Different Matter: When recording a rythm track, e.g. pattern sets on track 10, why does the record mode have to be switched to overdub and multi record?

At 12:05 1998-05-11 +1000, Peter Lazarus wrote: > >I would imagine phones output are going to be at a lower level than the regular > >output. This is typically the case with electronic equipment. Unfortunately the > >korg specs have no description of output or impedance levels for any of the > >outputs. But since the phones output has a lower volume, I guess this means it has its own separate DAC? If so, I guess that DAC is low quality...

Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > At 12:05 1998-05-11 +1000, Peter Lazarus wrote: > > >> > >I would imagine phones output are going to be at a lower level than the > > regular >> > >output. This is typically the case with electronic equipment. > > Unfortunately the >> > >korg specs have no description of output or impedance levels for any of the >> > >outputs. > > > > But since the phones output has a lower volume, I guess this means it has > > its own separate DAC? If so, I guess that DAC is low quality... > > Usually the phones output is taken directly from the main output of an amplifier via some resistors to reduce the output level. whether Korg does this or not I don't know but this is usually the simplest and cheapest design approach. Peter

hello ppl, can somebody help me out.... I downloaded a DANCE.PCG and DANCE.SNG from somewhere but i lost it. is it possible for someone to mail me the DANCE.PCG AND THE DANCE.SNG FILES... VERY IMPORTANT. Thanx. hasnat mosharraf

At 07:10 1998-05-15 -0700, Hasnat M wrote: > >can somebody help me out.... I downloaded a DANCE.PCG and DANCE.SNG >from somewhere but i lost it. is it possible for someone to mail me > >the DANCE.PCG AND THE DANCE.SNG FILES... VERY IMPORTANT. I'll mail them to you privatly as a zip file. Is anybody else interested?

At 10:55 1998-05-14 +1000, Peter Lazarus wrote: > >Usually the phones output is taken directly from the main output of an amplifier > >via some resistors to reduce the output level. whether Korg does this or not I > >don't know but this is usually the simplest and cheapest design approach. That seems perfectly logical. Guess I'll have to open my N364 and rip out the resistors. :) I'll ask KORG support about this.

I've put two N264/N364-specific programs on my home page (download section): http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/ They are: pcg2txt.exe - an MSDOS .PCG to .txt converter by Greg Babineau pst1.exe - a Windows .PCG/.PST file manager by Peter Lazarus pst1.exe is in an early development stage, but you might find it interesting to check it out. pcg2txt.exe is fully functional, but still beta. Post your comments/suggestions to this mailing list. If any of the other programmers on this list are interested in making their N-specific betas public, then let me know so I can put your program on my page.

At 15:12 17/05/98 +0200, you wrote: > >At 07:10 1998-05-15 -0700, Hasnat M wrote: > > >> >>can somebody help me out.... I downloaded a DANCE.PCG and DANCE.SNG > >>from somewhere but i lost it. is it possible for someone to mail me >> >>the DANCE.PCG AND THE DANCE.SNG FILES... VERY IMPORTANT. > > > >I'll mail them to you privatly as a zip file. > > > >Is anybody else interested? > > I'm interested! And in other .PCG and songs too. Thanx :) Grok

At 19:09 1998-05-18 +0200, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote: > >I'm interested! > > > >And in other .PCG and songs too. Dance.zip is attached to this mail! I've got several other PCG and SNG files, but I'm not sure it's legal to distribute them. Visit my recently update link section of my home page: http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/links.html There you'll find a couple of PCG/SNG sites, and the possibility to let AltaVista find some sites for you. Deleted: Dance.zip An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were: Content-Type: application/zip; name="Dance.zip"; x-mac-type="705A4950"; x-mac-creator="705A4950" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Dance.zip" Attachments: Deleted: Dance.zip 289 bytes

Hi all! Sorry for posting dance.pcg and dance.sng (dance.zip) to the list! Was supposed to be sent privatly... Well, now none of you will have to search for these files... :)

Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > > > At 07:10 1998-05-15 -0700, Hasnat M wrote: > > >> > >can somebody help me out.... I downloaded a DANCE.PCG and DANCE.SNG > > >from somewhere but i lost it. is it possible for someone to mail me >> > >the DANCE.PCG AND THE DANCE.SNG FILES... VERY IMPORTANT. > > > > I'll mail them to you privatly as a zip file. > > > > Is anybody else interested? > > Hi, I´m also interested in those files, could you please send them to me??? Thanx. By the way hoe good is cakewalk´s pro studio 7?? Do you know how much it can cost??

Hi, Does anybody have a Korg CX3 (or Hammond XB2) ? I am thinking about buying a CX3, and I am wondering if the organ sounds of it are much better than the ones of my N264. And does the CX3 organ sound better with the Korg G4 rotary speaker emulator ? Thanks for reading, Fedde Bouwman

At 23:25 1998-05-18 -0600, Christian Herrejón wrote: >>> >>>the DANCE.PCG AND THE DANCE.SNG > > > >Hi, I´m also interested in those files, could you please send them to > >me??? Thanx. By the way hoe good is cakewalk´s pro studio 7?? Do you > >know how much it can cost?? Since I accidentally posted both these files to the list, I guess you already have them now.. :) Cakewalk Pro Audio 7 is quite like version 6.x. The most notable difference is the new graphical user interface which sure looks a heck of a lot nicer (but is more system resource demanding). It's got better recording functions (you're able to 'arm' one or more tracks of your choice for recording - much like Cubase VST). Three new buttons have been put in the left pane of track view - Solo, Mute and Record. As usual it's possible to assign a hotkey to every function. The menues have been reconstructed somewhat, and there are more options. I sure like it!

> > > >pcg2txt.exe - an MSDOS .PCG to .txt converter by Greg Babineau Insteresting program, but I'd find more useful a variation which list only the Programs and Combi. names to have a fast view of a .PCG file. > >pst1.exe - a Windows .PCG/.PST file manager by Peter Lazarus > > Peter, it seems a very interesting program but i can't tell you. General Protection Error drives me crazy :((( ARG!!! posible solutions?? > >pst1.exe is in an early development stage, but you might find it > >interesting to check it out. pcg2txt.exe is fully functional, but still beta. > > Thanks Grok

At 13:03 1998-05-25 +0200, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote: >> >>pcg2txt.exe - an MSDOS .PCG to .txt converter by Greg Babineau > > > >Insteresting program, but I'd find more useful a variation which list only > >the Programs and Combi. names to have a fast view of a .PCG file. Since Greg isn't directly subscribed to this list, I've forwarded this request to him. Please note that the program is a pre-state to a librarian/editor of some kind...

Just a tip about what you can use pcg2txt.exe (the MSDOS PCG to txt converter by Greg Babineau) to do: If you change a program, you might want to know which combinations this affects. Simply save the PCG, convert it to text with pcg2txt, read it with a text reader that supports searching and search for the particular program. Example: if you've edited program B12, then search for B012 in the combination section of the text. You'll probably find one or more combinations that contain this particular program (I can't check myself since my N364 is off for repairs due to a non-centering joystick).

I haven't got a CX3 but I used a VOCE module (can't remember which one) in the studio once and it blew my Korg away. I assume that a dedicated B3 simulator will probably always sound better for organ sounds than a do-it-all sort of keyboard. Having drawbars to mess with can't be a bad thing, either. I think somebody wrote in a while back and said that the leslie module was much better than the built-in effect on the N. I would assume this is true for the same reason (because it's a dedicated effect unit and not one of 47 effects built into a workstation). Still, you'll probably have to hear it.

At 11:57 1998-05-27 -0400, SA11075 wrote: > >I assume that a dedicated B3 simulator will probably always sound better for > >organ sounds than a do-it-all sort of keyboard. Ofcourse. A dedicated organ simulator will naturally sound a lot better than a keyboard. Why else make a dedicated organ simulator? Some digital sound reproduction organs, such as the Hammond BX-3 (or what it's called), probably sounds nice, but the price tag is out of this world. In Sweden it's around $16000. Not a joke. > >I think somebody wrote in a while back and said that the leslie module was > >much better than the built-in effect on the N. The rot.speaker effect of the Nx64 is very crude. It doesn't come close to a good leslie. But the Nx64 isn't an organ simulator, so.. :)

Hi everyone, this is my first time on the list, but I have a major dilemma. I've bought my N364, and its a nice machine and all, but I want to program some really nice sounds for techno,trance, dance and house music. I'm under the impression I bought the wrong machine for that music and am now thinking about getting a MC505 too. Can someone out there help me out and show me or point me to something that'll teach me how to get some dance-like sounds out of this synth. I've tried the dance, and techno patch sets, and they're not too bad, but they tend to lack in the drum kit dept. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Feel free to reply directly or via the list, and if you have any patches you think I'd like, feel free to send them to me, or point me to them. thanks -Umang

hi dude, i have the same problem you have. i'm into making industrial music and i think the n264 really isnt enough to do the job. korg is a popular brand but if you look at the artists that use them, they are people like phil colins , bonnie raitt or something. mostly new age, or pop artists (exclude the Z1.. of course thats more for dance and trance). popular brand, but for a different style. i should have gotten the roland xp50/60/80. roland has more sounds geared towards what we want but the korg isnt too bad, you just have to play around with it. i know an industrial band that uses korgs (terminal sect) but they also use other stuff. to get some cool techno sounds out of the n264 you gotta drown em in EFFECTS! particularly the phaser and some chorus and delay, lots of delay. it adds variation to the bland sounds especially when you are programming fast step notes. if there is no way you can return your machine, dont fret. be creative with what you got. you just gotta know how to use the sounds rite. and definitely go for the 505 groovebox! that is such a cool machine. it'll take care of the drums and beyond. you could use the n264 as a controller for it too. i plan on getting one or a QSR (when i get some $$). anyone here have a QSR? that module sounds sweet! i was playin the QS8 for hours at the store. its got nice drums and basses and everything. i think it sounds like roland and korg smashed together in one synth. feel free to correct me if i'm wrong or your opinion is different. have a nice day! kaliss ---Umang K Patel <ukp+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, this is my first time on the list, but I have a major > > dilemma. I've bought my N364, and its a nice machine and all, but I want > > to program some really nice sounds for techno,trance, dance and house > > music. I'm under the impression I bought the wrong machine for that > > music and am now thinking about getting a MC505 too. Can someone out > > there help me out and show me or point me to something that'll teach me > > how to get some dance-like sounds out of this synth. I've tried the > > dance, and techno patch sets, and they're not too bad, but they tend to > > lack in the drum kit dept. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks. Feel free to reply directly or via the list, and if you have any > > patches you think I'd like, feel free to send them to me, or point me to > > them. thanks > > > > > > -Umang > >

I often dub my drumsounds with sounds from "Cyber Patch" and "Down Low" to get Cool sounds. May be worth to try. -------------------------------------------------------- Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg 182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering SWEDEN +46-8-* http://www.skanska.com mailto:joakim.*@*.se -------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Kaliss [mailto:*@*.COM] Sent: den 28 maj 1998 03:58 To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Re: programming hi dude, i have the same problem you have. i'm into making industrial music and i think the n264 really isnt enough to do the job. korg is a popular brand but if you look at the artists that use them, they are people like phil colins , bonnie raitt or something. mostly new age, or pop artists (exclude the Z1.. of course thats more for dance and trance). popular brand, but for a different style. i should have gotten the roland xp50/60/80. roland has more sounds geared towards what we want but the korg isnt too bad, you just have to play around with it. i know an industrial band that uses korgs (terminal sect) but they also use other stuff. to get some cool techno sounds out of the n264 you gotta drown em in EFFECTS! particularly the phaser and some chorus and delay, lots of delay. it adds variation to the bland sounds especially when you are programming fast step notes. if there is no way you can return your machine, dont fret. be creative with what you got. you just gotta know how to use the sounds rite. and definitely go for the 505 groovebox! that is such a cool machine. it'll take care of the drums and beyond. you could use the n264 as a controller for it too. i plan on getting one or a QSR (when i get some $$). anyone here have a QSR? that module sounds sweet! i was playin the QS8 for hours at the store. its got nice drums and basses and everything. i think it sounds like roland and korg smashed together in one synth. feel free to correct me if i'm wrong or your opinion is different. have a nice day! kaliss ---Umang K Patel <ukp+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU> wrote: > > Hi everyone, this is my first time on the list, but I have a major > dilemma. I've bought my N364, and its a nice machine and all, but I want > to program some really nice sounds for techno,trance, dance and house > music. I'm under the impression I bought the wrong machine for that > music and am now thinking about getting a MC505 too. Can someone out > there help me out and show me or point me to something that'll teach me > how to get some dance-like sounds out of this synth. I've tried the > dance, and techno patch sets, and they're not too bad, but they tend to > lack in the drum kit dept. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks. Feel free to reply directly or via the list, and if you have any > patches you think I'd like, feel free to send them to me, or point me to > them. thanks > > > -Umang >

At 18:28 27-05-98 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi everyone, this is my first time on the list, but I have a major > >dilemma. I've bought my N364, and its a nice machine and all, but I want > >to program some really nice sounds for techno,trance, dance and house > >music. I'm under the impression I bought the wrong machine for that > >music and am now thinking about getting a MC505 too. Can someone out > >there help me out and show me or point me to something that'll teach me > >how to get some dance-like sounds out of this synth. I've tried the > >dance, and techno patch sets, and they're not too bad, but they tend to > >lack in the drum kit dept. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks. Feel free to reply directly or via the list, and if you have any > >patches you think I'd like, feel free to send them to me, or point me to > >them. thanks I'm using a MC303 together with my N364 and use the 303 mostly for drums and filter like stuff... it kicks ass... I dunno if you should buy a MC505 because it's almost the same as the 303, only with some fancy D-Beam controller and a bunch more samples (they are both sample based)... I personally find the MC-505 way to expensive for what it offers more than the MC-303... For the good old TB-303 sounds the MC-303 and MC-505 are quite bad, I use rebirth for those sounds... Dunno if I helped you a little, this is just my opinion... Greetings, Hero Idema ps. we are currently experiencing problems with our mail server, so it could happen it rejects you mail to the mailing list. If this happens, just sent it again in a an hour or so... Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services *@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl +31-(0)79-* *@*.nl

At 19:06 26/05/98 +0200, Kenneth wrote: > >At 13:03 1998-05-25 +0200, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote: > > >>> >>>pcg2txt.exe - an MSDOS .PCG to .txt converter by Greg Babineau >> >> >> >>Insteresting program, but I'd find more useful a variation which list only >> >>the Programs and Combi. names to have a fast view of a .PCG file. > > > >Since Greg isn't directly subscribed to this list, I've forwarded this > >request to him. Please note that the program is a pre-state to a > >librarian/editor of some kind... > > Thanx Ken. And tell him to I like PCG2TXT and I thank his work on it. My mail was a sugestion to improve the program and make it more interesting. Thanx again Grok

Hey ppl, Can anyone tell me How to set the N pan control to PRG using the Cakewalk. I know I can pan it A:B using 1-127 and 64 for CNT. but what do I use for PRG? Hasnat

At 14:26 1998-05-28 -0700, Hasnat M wrote: > >Can anyone tell me How to set the N pan control to PRG using the > >Cakewalk. I know I can pan it A:B using 1-127 and 64 for CNT. but what > >do I use for PRG? Can't check right now, but I'm quite sure that it isn't possible to select PRG via MIDI. It's the same with send C/D. It sucks. ;)

At 12:51 1998-05-28 +0200, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote: > >And tell him to I like PCG2TXT and I thank his work on it. He ought to be reading this, since he's directly subscribed now. :) A new version with the features you want is under way! :D

At 18:28 1998-05-27 -0400, Umang K Patel wrote: > >dilemma. I've bought my N364, and its a nice machine and all, but I want > >to program some really nice sounds for techno,trance, dance and house > >music. I'm under the impression I bought the wrong machine for that > >music and am now thinking about getting a MC505 too. The N264/N364 isn't the ideal machine for trance/dance/rave/whatever, but you can make the best out if the situation by tweaking the effects and using square/saw/pwm/sinus/pulse/etc waveforms (even if they are samples, they still sound much the same as what an analog synth would produce). Phaser, delay, lots of reverb, distortion, overdrive and parametric equaliser are good effects to use. The overdrive effect can be used for resonance, and the equaliser to make low/mid/high-pass filter sweeps. > >tend to lack in the drum kit dept. That's true. But you can make a decent 808/909 kit by using lots of distortion for basskick & snares. Don't be afraid to reshuffle the RAM drum kits, tweaking the pitch and playing length of the drum sounds. You can easily do 'complex' sounding drums by simply pressing more than one key at once... > >Thanks. Feel free to reply directly or via the list, and if you have any > >patches you think I'd like, feel free to send them to me, or point me to > >them. thanks I have a few of my own patches that might interest you, but since I haven't used many of them in my songs I don't feel like spreading them around yet.. sorry... :( Just dig down to the heart of your N364 and start grooving around with the program parameters. After a while you'll probably produce a few patches you like... :) I'm definately not a sound programming pro, but I'm learning...

> > > >At 18:28 1998-05-27 -0400, Umang K Patel wrote: > > >> >>dilemma. I've bought my N364, and its a nice machine and all, but I want >> >>to program some really nice sounds for techno,trance, dance and house >> >>music. I'm under the impression I bought the wrong machine for that >> >>music and am now thinking about getting a MC505 too. Hi I've just joined the list - had my N364 for a year now. I mostly do DrumNBass and have had similar feelings to yourself (and many others, I gather) about it. I thought about selling it, but then after persevering I've found that you can get some up-to-the-minute sounds out of it. (like most synths - don't be fooled by the presets, it can do a lot more than that). Lack of good tekno/house drums seems a common complaint. Then I realised that the TR808 Kick is made from a sine wave - and the N364 has a perfectly Ok sine wave. So why not mix a lo lo sine wive in with one of the basic kicks? You have to do it in combi mode - set up a kit Program on one channel, a sine wave Program on other. In Program edit, set the Sine Wave release time to zero and use a short decay. In Combi mode restrict the sine waves note range to just the kick(s) you require. Set the volume level accordingly. It takes a bit if tuning, and don't get too excited, it would NEVER be confused with a real 808 or 909. But it gets over the 'thinness' of the on-board kicks and really gives the kick a lot more power. I suppose you could use the same trick to put the white noise waveform (or any other, if you wanted to be really experimental) behind a Snare. Maybe I'll try that next! It's worth really searching the web for X3 and X5 banks, amidst all the dull "Oh-My-God-not- another-Piano!" sounds, there's the occasional sound that really grabs your attention. Good to see the N364 generating some interest at last. ZedEx

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Greg Babineau has recently finished beta 1.2 of his PCG-to-text converting program for MSDOS/Windows. This new version supports output of program & combination names only, and is great for doing a quick and compact listing of the contents in a PCG. You can find it on my home page: http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/ It is in the files section.

At 03:28 10/06/98 +0200, you wrote: > >Greg Babineau has recently finished beta 1.2 of his PCG-to-text converting > >program for MSDOS/Windows. > >This new version supports output of program & combination names only, and > >is great for doing a quick and compact listing of the contents in a PCG. > >You can find it on my home page: > >http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/ > >It is in the files section. Yes! Yes! Yes! I'll test if this afternoon. Thanx Greg (and Ken of couerse :))

I recently asked KORG Support if it's possible to set which effects to use in sequencer mode via midi SysEx. They told me that they do not specialize in SysEx, but that they could see no reason why it wouldn't be possible. I know it's possible to select the effect for both fx processors in prog and combi mode (don't know the codes though), but how to do it in sequencer mode? KORG Support told me to take a closer look at the midi implementation chart in the back of the Reference Guide. Can anybody please help with checking this? Just think how nice it would be if you could select the effects in seq mode from your external sequencer! By the way, the list has been awfully silent now for a while. I'm sure there must be several people here who have questions to ask. Please do!

At 12:29 1998-06-11 +0200, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote: >> > > Greg Babineau has recently finished beta 1.2 of his PCG-to-text converting >> > > program for MSDOS/Windows. >> > > >> > > This new version supports output of program & combination names only, and >> > > is great for doing a quick and compact listing of the contents in a PCG. >> > > >> > > You can find it on my home page: >> > > >> > > http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/ >> > > >> > > It is in the files section. > > > >I'll test if this afternoon. Did it work as supposed? It should...

Horray! Today the 100 member barrier was broken here on the N264/N364 mailing list!

At 22:11 18/06/98 +0200, you wrote: > >At 12:29 1998-06-11 +0200, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote: > > >>> >> > Greg Babineau has recently finished beta 1.2 of his PCG-to-text converting >>> >> > program for MSDOS/Windows. >>> >> > >>> >> > This new version supports output of program & combination names only, and >>> >> > is great for doing a quick and compact listing of the contents in a PCG. >>> >> > >>> >> > You can find it on my home page: >>> >> > >>> >> > http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/ >>> >> > >>> >> > It is in the files section. >> >> >> >>I'll test if this afternoon. > > > >Did it work as supposed? It should... > > Yes!, It works. And it's very useful to me the new -n option. But it doesn't work always. For any reason there are some files which PCG2TXT can't read (the error message said "Couldn't open the file" or something like that). And I don't know why 'cos there's no caracter in common in the files which could be responsable. Or perhaps is my fault. I don't know. Anyway it work superb when it can open the file. Thanx Greg. seeu Grok

Just to say Hello! to the 100 Members joining this list, and give my best wishes to Kenneth. Go for the 1000 !!!! Regards, Alejandro. > >From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE> > >Subject: We've reached 100 members! > >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > > >Horray! > > > >Today the 100 member barrier was broken here on the N264/N364 mailing list!

what a useless piece of mail.... > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca [SMTP:*@*.COM] > > Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 11:38 AM > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Re: We've reached 100 members! > > > > Just to say Hello! to the 100 Members joining this list, and give my > > best wishes to Kenneth. Go for the 1000 !!!! > > > > Regards, > > > > Alejandro. > > >> > >From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE> >> > >Subject: We've reached 100 members! >> > >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET >> > > >> > >Horray! >> > > >> > >Today the 100 member barrier was broken here on the N264/N364 mailing > > list!

At 12:08 PM 6/19/98 -0500, you wrote: > >what a useless piece of mail.... > > I thought it was good news. Nice to see how the N-list is progressing. if it was so useless why'd you bother to waste your time replying then?

At 07:30 PM 6/18/98 +0200, you wrote: > >I recently asked KORG Support if it's possible to set which effects to use > >in sequencer mode via midi SysEx. They told me that they do not specialize > >in SysEx, but that they could see no reason why it wouldn't be possible. > > > >I know it's possible to select the effect for both fx processors in prog > >and combi mode (don't know the codes though), but how to do it in sequencer > >mode? > > > >KORG Support told me to take a closer look at the midi implementation chart > >in the back of the Reference Guide. > > > >Can anybody please help with checking this? > > > >Just think how nice it would be if you could select the effects in seq mode >from your external sequencer! Ive tried to figure it out but with no success. Someone should drop the coder of xedit an email and see if he can give any tips on this, figure if there's anyone out there who *can* get the n364 working completely with cakewalk its him.

There is one way around this. By setting the effects and parameters manually on the n364-then dumping it into cakewalk via sysex you can use all the various effects ect with cakewalk. Just load the sysex data into the begining of your song and save it. This will auto load (if you clicked auto in the sysex view) every time you load up your song. Not really the best way of going about it but at least you can sequence with different effects ect..

> > There is one way around this. By setting the effects and parameters manually > > on the n364-then dumping it into cakewalk via sysex you can use all the various Yes, this is a viable method. Some people object to the fact that the only sysex dump available is for All Song data. That is, all 10 songs. Of course, if there's no notes in any of the on-board songs, then the dump will still be relatively short, and fast. The other possible method is to record your movements via sysex into your computer sequencer. To elaborate: 1. In Global mode, Enable Sysex data. And set the Global MIDI channel to the same channel every time, e.g. 1. 2. Set up your sequencer to record sysex, if necessary. 3. Put the sequencer into Record, go back to the N keyboard, and setup up your effects. That is, starting from regular Sequence mode, press the Edit button, go to the Effects page, and physically do all that you need to do to set up the effects, while your computer is recording. 4. Play back the sequence, and watch the N repeat your moves! This is the theory, anyway. Of course, this recording may take you a few minutes to do. Then you can go in and remove the pieces of silence, and tighten it up, so that it only takes a few seconds. (Don't tighten up too much, or else some events may be lost.) 5. For live work, you will need to allocate enough time at the head of the song, to allow for the sysex dump. For studio work, it doesn't matter - just play this track once before you start work on the song, and then mute the track. Like I said, this is the theory..... All the best, jg..

Hi, As far as an editor for the N264/364 goes, I did write to Joost who is the author of Xedit. His reply is attached below. Regarding sysex I think if enough people persuaded him he probably would do it. I tried to figure out the sysex myself from the midi implementation chart to no avail. Keep the mailing list going. People who are offended by the mails should just unsubscribe. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, Xedit works with the N-series, but only as far as the X3-compatible features are concerned. So the extra memory & waveforms of the N series are not supported. Rgds Joost *@*.com wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Help! > > > > I desperately need an editor compatible to the Korg N Series, I have > two N 264's and > > I have tried to find editors but no luck. Does Xedit work with the N > series? if so are > > there any limitations? > > > > Regards > > > > email : *@*.net

the n264 is this really a good board im a first time buyer? what is the best amp to use on this board is it a kb300 (peavey)

At 19:57 22-6-98 +0200, you wrote: > >the n264 is this really a good board im a first time buyer? > > > >what is the best amp to use on this board is it a kb300 (peavey) > > I like the N264 very much. It is just what you want. If you want a good synthesizer to play on stage or on your own buy a Korg. Korg is particularly good in pads & spacy synthesizer sounds. And it has nice electrical pianos and organs for example. Korg's combination sounds are very full. I like the playability of the N264 and it's good expressive keyboard. If you are more interested in acoustic sounds you might be better of with a Roland. Most GM (general midi) sounds are better too. But overall, the sounds are not as fat as Korg' patches.

Can I somehow "simulate" a Delay effect in Cakewalk (3 or 5) in an easy way? I mean trought my N364 or just with Cwalk. Thanx Grok

Hi friends from N-list, I really need a N262/364 INS FILE for Cakewalk Pro Audio If any of you has this file or know where it can be found, please mail me as soon as posible. Thank you very much. Manoel M. Neto - Brazil

I often get inspiration when listening to other peoples music, especially when it Is made with the same equipment that I am using. It gives you a new perspective I think. I have an idea: If you have some piece of music that you want to share you could mail a link to this list. If you don't have a place to put your music, you can mail it to me and I will put it on my FTP site. I prefer MP3 format since the files are compressed. Please state which equipment that was used. The songs should have been created by / or some parts of the song by/ a Korg NX(64?). If you don't think this is a good idea, just ignore this. Here are some examples: ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg <ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg> Comment: I used some loops and added guitar to some of the songs. I will add vocals whenever they are completed. Nothing special, but it could be interesting to check out. N264 is the only keyboard used. Regards, Joakim Lundberg -------------------------------------------------------- Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg 182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering SWEDEN +46-8-* http://www.skanska.com mailto:joakim.*@*.se --------------------------------------------------------

How do you record the N264 output to a MP3 file? I have been looking for a software to do so, but I don't know wich is the best one. I have listened to your music and its great. Congratulations. Thanks in advance, Alejandro. > >I often get inspiration when listening to other peoples music, > >especially when it > >Is made with the same equipment that I am using. It gives you a new > >perspective I think. > > > >I have an idea: > > > >If you have some piece of music that you want to share you could mail a > >link to this list. > >If you don't have a place to put your music, you can mail it to me and I > >will put it on my FTP site. > >I prefer MP3 format since the files are compressed. Please state which > >equipment that was used. > > > >The songs should have been created by / or some parts of the song by/ a > >Korg NX(64?). > > > >If you don't think this is a good idea, just ignore this. > > > >Here are some examples: > > > >ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg > ><ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg> > > > >Comment: > >I used some loops and added guitar to some of the songs. I will add > >vocals whenever they are completed. > >Nothing special, but it could be interesting to check out. N264 is the > >only keyboard used. > > > >Regards, > > > >Joakim Lundberg > > > >-------------------------------------------------------- > >Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg > >182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering > >SWEDEN +46-8-* > >http://www.skanska.com mailto:joakim.*@*.se > >-------------------------------------------------------- > >

---------- > > From: Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé <*@*.USAL.ES> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > Subject: Delay in Cwalk > > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:28:53 +0200 > > > >Can I somehow "simulate" a Delay effect in Cakewalk (3 or 5) in an easy way? > >I mean trought my N364 or just with Cwalk. > > > >Thanx > > Grok You can simulate delay effect with any respectable MIDI sequencer (like, for example, N 364 internal seq). Just copy the track that you want to apply delay to into another track and then use quantize function to offset it with respect to the original track to get the desired result. Hope it helps, S-Machine

At 08:17 1998-06-25 +1100, Morgan Warren wrote: > >I just signed up for the list a few days ago and there is no email coming > >to me from the list (except the email saying I was signed up.) > > > >Did I do something wrong or is the traffic on this list very low in volume? Nothing is likely to be wrong. The volume can be very low at times, eventhough there are more than a hundred members on this list... So come on people, aks your questions and they will be answered. This discussion list is for everybody; beginners, average users, casual users, professionals, hi-tech freaks etc. Even if the discussion level can be quite high here at times, never hesitate to ask questions at 'low' or 'mid' level! People here are very friendly! A FAQ is being put together. Can't say when it'll be ready, but it shouldn't take too long. Cheers!

At 17:10 1998-06-24 -0500, Bryan wrote: > >I was curious if you have the capability of converting midi files to .sng > >files? > > > >My friend is having a wedding and I need to learn all these "wedding > >tunes", I thought it would be neat if I could load them in my korg and > >just edit the voices and timing. Can you help me out? You can load midi files (I assume you mean .mid files) directly into the internal sequencer of your N, since it fully supports the general midi file format. First put the .mid (or .smf) files on a disk, and then insert it into the disk drive of the N. Enter disk menu page 5A (Load SMF - Standard Midi File), select a file and load it to one of the 10 internal sequencer songs (select song number on the page to the right of page 5A). Remember to make a backup of the songs you might have in the internal sequencer first. If you want to save your midi files as a .sng, repeat the above procedure for up to 9 more songs, and save all the songs as a .sng (disk menu page 3C). A .sng file always contains all 10 songs from the internal sequencer, so you can't save a single song only.

At 19:10 1998-06-24 -0300, Manoel M. Neto wrote: >Hi friends from N-list, I really need a N262/364 INS FILE for Cakewalk Pro >Audio > >If any of you has this file or know where it can be found, please mail me as >soon as posible. You can download my Cakewalk package for N264/N364 from the download section of my homepage: http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/ The package includes instrument definitions, SysEx dump request macros and SysEx messages to put the N264/N364 in seq/prog/combi mode.

At 10:36 1998-06-25 +0200, Joakim Lundberg wrote: >I often get inspiration when listening to other peoples music, >especially when it Is made with the same equipment that I am using. >It gives you a new perspective I think. I couldn't agree more!! >I have an idea: > >If you have some piece of music that you want to share you could mail a >link to this list. If you don't have a place to put your music, you can >mail it to me and I will put it on my FTP site. >I prefer MP3 format since the files are compressed. Please state which >equipment that was used. The songs should have been created by / or some >parts of the song by/ a Korg NX(64?). This is an excellent idea! The problem is that most people won't be able to create mp3's out of their songs though. Ofcourse SNG files are welcome too! Thank you for this brilliant initiative!! For those of you who don't already know, I have one of my songs in mp3 format in the "My music" section on my homepage: http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/ The song is called "Lime Garden" and is 90% made with my N364. >Here are some examples: > >ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg Will check this out for sure! Cheers!

At 11:33 1998-06-25 -0700, Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca wrote: > >How do you record the N264 output to a MP3 file? I have been looking for > >a software to do so, but I don't know wich is the best one. For people with PC: First record the output to a wav file (*.wav) using your soundcard's line-in. Then you need an MP3 compressor. There are several, but here are two examples: L3Enc for DOS which is free (I think?) and very common MP3 Producer Pro for Win9x/NT which is excellent (!!!) but expensive (take a look at this page: http://www.opticom.de/). There's also MP3 Producer Advanced which is cheaper. Can be found on the same page.

I Record my music to harddisk using cakewalk (just plug your NX64 output to your soundcard). All the midi tracks goes down to one midi track. Then you can add other audio tracks if you want to. I export the recorded music to a WAV file using cakewalk. The WAV file can be converted to MP3 using any software such as L3ENC or MP3 Producer PRO. I do it all the time, and I think it is a great way to distribute music to others over the net. -------------------------------------------------------- Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg 182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering SWEDEN +46-8-* http://www.skanska.com mailto:joakim.*@*.se -------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca [mailto:*@*.COM] Sent: den 25 juni 1998 20:33 To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET Subject: Re: Music How do you record the N264 output to a MP3 file? I have been looking for a software to do so, but I don't know wich is the best one. I have listened to your music and its great. Congratulations. Thanks in advance, Alejandro. >I often get inspiration when listening to other peoples music, >especially when it >Is made with the same equipment that I am using. It gives you a new >perspective I think. > >I have an idea: > >If you have some piece of music that you want to share you could mail a >link to this list. >If you don't have a place to put your music, you can mail it to me and I >will put it on my FTP site. >I prefer MP3 format since the files are compressed. Please state which >equipment that was used. > >The songs should have been created by / or some parts of the song by/ a >Korg NX(64?). > >If you don't think this is a good idea, just ignore this. > >Here are some examples: > >ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg ><ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg> > >Comment: >I used some loops and added guitar to some of the songs. I will add >vocals whenever they are completed. >Nothing special, but it could be interesting to check out. N264 is the >only keyboard used. > >Regards, > >Joakim Lundberg > > >-------------------------------------------------------- >Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg >182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering >SWEDEN +46-8-* >http://www.skanska.com mailto:joakim.*@*.se > >-------------------------------------------------------- >

At 10:36 25/06/98 +0200, you wrote: > >I often get inspiration when listening to other peoples music, > >especially when it > >Is made with the same equipment that I am using. It gives you a new > >perspective I think. > > > >I have an idea: > > > >If you have some piece of music that you want to share you could mail a > >link to this list. > >If you don't have a place to put your music, you can mail it to me and I > >will put it on my FTP site. > >I prefer MP3 format since the files are compressed. Please state which > >equipment that was used. > > > >The songs should have been created by / or some parts of the song by/ a > >Korg NX(64?). > > > >If you don't think this is a good idea, just ignore this. > > > >Here are some examples: > > > >ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg > ><ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg> > > > >Comment: > >I used some loops and added guitar to some of the songs. I will add > >vocals whenever they are completed. > >Nothing special, but it could be interesting to check out. N264 is the > >only keyboard used. > > > >Regards, > > > >Joakim Lundberg > > Great!!! But I haven't the MP3 software. And I have my N364 and my internet conexion 15 Km far. No zip yet. So I won't carry seven 3'5 disk for one song. But I'll send it in .sng format. ...when I finish them :)

At 22:36 1998-06-22 +1000, J+G Grant wrote: >> >> There is one way around this. By setting the effects and parameters >> >> manually on the n364-then dumping it into cakewalk via sysex you can >> >> use all the various > > > >Yes, this is a viable method. Some people object to the fact that the > >only sysex dump available is for All Song data. That is, all 10 songs. > >Of course, if there's no notes in any of the on-board songs, then the > >dump will still be relatively short, and fast. This is probably the best way to do it, considering that it can be quite cumbersome to edit many parameter settings via separate SysEx messages. > >The other possible method is to record your movements via sysex into your > >computer sequencer. That's a good idea, but it refuses to work. Try editing an effect parameter in program mode, e.g. set effect processor 1 to distortion (page 7A) while recording SysEx with your external sequencer. 10 bytes will be recorded. Now, try sending the recorded SysEx message back to your N while in program mode. The N will respond correctly. Try sending it while in combination mode. The N will respond, but not correctly. Try sending it while in sequencer mode. The N will not respond at all. So, SysEx parameter editing is mode-specific you think. That's right. There is one big problem though. Try doing a SysEx recording when editing effect parameters in sequencer mode. You will notice that nothing will be recorded. This is because the N doesn't send parameter SysEx when in sequencer mode. Atleast my N364 won't. I hope it is not due to a setup fault in my midi system, but I doubt that. Please try the above yourself and see if I'm wrong. I hope I am... ;) Cheers!

At 10:36 1998-06-25 +0200, Joakim Lundberg wrote: > >Here are some examples: > > > >ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg > > > >Comment: > >I used some loops and added guitar to some of the songs. I will add > >vocals whenever they are completed. Nothing special, but it could be > >interesting to check out. N264 is the only keyboard used. Downloaded a few of the songs, and I really like them! Definately worth the download time! It's always nice when people want to share their music (especially if it's made with N264/N364 :) ). Cheers!

I'm sort of a beginner at the N264. I bought this machine in October and am using it mostly for a keyboard controller, but I need to start using it for some other things. I need to use it for a duet this weekend and need to know how to program it. I want to use a strings from the combi program and also a piano. I can't figure out how to do that. Also I can't figure out how to record. I use a Yamaha PSR 620 at school where I teach and have had no trouble learning it, but I'm totally frustrated with this Korg. I've read the manual and end up more confused. What do people like me do to learn how to operate this thing?

Hi, I was just wondering if there´s a way to fde the N 264 sequencer´s tracks, lease let me know because I´m stuck with it. Thankyou music lovers!!! CHHG

At 22:58 1998-07-07 -0600, Christian Herrejón wrote: > >Hi, I was just wondering if there´s a way to fde the N 264 sequencer´s > >tracks, lease let me know because I´m stuck with it. Thankyou music > >lovers!!! fde? Do you mean fade, as in volume increas/decrease? Please give us more information so we can help you better. There's more than one way to control the volume of a track. You have midi controller 7 (main track volume), controller 11 (expression = volume relative to main track volume) and there's a SysEx code that controls the main volume of all tracks: F0 7F 7F 04 01 xx yy F7 xx = LSB: 00 through 7F yy = MSB: 00 through 7F Max volume is when xx=7F and yy=7F: F0 7F 7F 04 01 7F 7F F7 Min volume is when xx=00 and yy=00: F0 7F 7F 04 01 00 00 F7 The easiest way is to use midi controller 11. It's max is 7F (127 in decimal numbers) and min is 0. Somebody else will have to fill in on how to use these in the internal sequencer, since I only use external sequencers myself...

Thanks for the info but it is not completely clear for me , for example, I want a song to end with the volume decreasing(fading), am I clear?? Thanks again. -----Mensaje original----- De: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE> Para: *@*.syntegra.net <*@*.syntegra.net> Fecha: sábado, 11 de julio de 1998 3:58 Asunto: Re: fader info > >At 22:58 1998-07-07 -0600, Christian Herrejón wrote: > > >> >>Hi, I was just wondering if there´s a way to fde the N 264 sequencer´s >> >>tracks, lease let me know because I´m stuck with it. Thankyou music >> >>lovers!!! > > > >fde? Do you mean fade, as in volume increas/decrease? > > > >Please give us more information so we can help you better. > > > >There's more than one way to control the volume of a track. You have midi > >controller 7 (main track volume), controller 11 (expression = volume > >relative to main track volume) and there's a SysEx code that controls the > >main volume of all tracks: > > > >F0 7F 7F 04 01 xx yy F7 > > > >xx = LSB: 00 through 7F > >yy = MSB: 00 through 7F > > > >Max volume is when xx=7F and yy=7F: > > > >F0 7F 7F 04 01 7F 7F F7 > > > >Min volume is when xx=00 and yy=00: > > > >F0 7F 7F 04 01 00 00 F7 > > > >The easiest way is to use midi controller 11. It's max is 7F (127 in > >decimal numbers) and min is 0. > > > >Somebody else will have to fill in on how to use these in the internal > >sequencer, since I only use external sequencers myself...

Hello, I hope this mail not to be too much out of topic, but i would like to know if someone developing any program for the N has already tried something for receiving sysex via MIDI. I am trying it with windows NT, but i am stuck (its the very first time i program for windows, so i have had many problems). I downloaded both PST and pcg2txt, which are very good, maybe the ones who wrote them could help me. Thanks in advance. Jordi

Could anybody help me?? I have lost of problems with Cubase VST 3.5 and midi files. I think it's a configuration problem. But I can't get with it. It seems to have a lack of fixed time, some notes are repeated, and things like this. Ah! Other thing. I've been testing it on a PC with a noisy card. But noise grows up too much when I start my Cubase. Any ideas?? Thanx in advance <Grok

OK, so the manuals say you have to go into sequencer mode to record patterns and songs. Is there any way to record a song or pattern using combinations?

Hello, Forgive me if this is a stupid question or if it has already been asked, but I can't seem to properly set up Cakewalk instrument/controller definitions for my n364. I was using 3.0, and I just upgraded to 6.01. I am using the .ins files from Kenneth Jonsson's download page. The patch name definitions seem to work well, but Cakewalk does not seem to record controller messages from my n364 at all (sustain, pitch/bend, modulation, etc.).... Am I missing something? Would someone please give me a pointer or two, or maybe direct me to an online resource concerning this matter? thank you, Rick Bell

This mail is a bit long, but worth reading through if you use the internal sequencer of your N264/N364. It is written so everybody can follow (I hope). Please ask if there's something you don't understand. > >Thanks for the info but it is not completely clear for me, for example, I > >want a song to end with the volume decreasing (fading), am I clear?? My reply was strictly theoretical, so I understand if it wasn't clear. :) I found out how to add midi controller data to a track in the internal sequencer a minute ago (see page 135 in the Reference Guide): -------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Enter sequencer edit mode, and go to page 3D [Create Crl]. 2. Select track. 3. Go one step to the right, and select beginning measure (start of fade-down). 4. Step right, select position within beginning measure (optional). 5. Step right, select end measure (end of fade-down). 6. Step right, select position within end measure (optional). 7. Step right, select midi controller number: C007 (controller 7) is main track volume C011 (controller 11) is volume relative to main track volume Check page 126 in the Reference Guide for other controllers. 8. Step right, select end value. 9. Step right, select OK. -------------------------------------------------------------------- You have to repeat the procedure for every track. There is one odd thing about this function. There is no start value! The function will use the most recent value before the start measure as start value. To make things more clear, I'll give you an example: 1. Enter sequencer edit mode, page 3D. 2. Select a track that contains music. 3. Select start measure 001, position 1:00. 4. Select end measure 004, position 1:00. 5. Select controller 11. 6. Select end value 000. 7. Select OK. Go to measure 1 and play the song. The volume of the edited track will decrease over time, from measure 1 to measure 4 (where volume will be zero). Remember that controller 11 is volume relative to main volume. This means that the fade will start from the main track volume (which you set in sequencer mode). This is a good thing, trust me. :) Now, what if you want to fade UP instead of DOWN? This is a little bit more complicated. The start value of controller 11 is automatically set to 127 in the beginning of the song, so you have to add a 0 in the start measure so that the [Create ctl] function will fade up from 0. First, to add a midi controller 11 message with value 0 (there is more than one method): -------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Enter sequencer edit mode, page2B [Event Edit]. 2. Select a track that contains music. 3. Press the [rec/write] button. 4. Press the [start/stop] button. 5. Select a start measure. 6. Press cursor up, i.e. the [cursor, perf edit / rppr] button. 7. If event number is not #001, repeat step 6 until it is. 8. Press insert, i.e. the button with a 7 above it in the uppermost button row, close to the volume slider. 'INSERT' is written in green below it. 9. Go three steps to the right, move the value slider to the top (if already at the top, move it to the bottom and then to the top again). 10. PAFT should be blinking. Press value decrease, i.e. [/NO] button. 11. CTRL should be blinking. Go one step to the right. Select 11. 12. Step right, select 000. 13. Check the measure number (the value furthermost to the left). You will start the fade-in from this measure. Write it down or remember it. 14. Press [start/stop] button. -------------------------------------------------------------------- All this just because the [Create ctl] function doesn't have a start value. Second, do the fade-in: -------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Enter sequencer edit mode, page 3D [Create ctrl]. 2. Select the same track as above (it's usually already selected). 3. Step right, select the measure you wrote down (or remembered). 4. Step right. 5. Step right, select end measure (end of fade-in) 6. Step right. 7. Step right, select controller 11 (C011). 8. Step right, select end value 127. 9. Step right, select OK. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Play the song from the measure you wrote down, and the volume should fade from 0 to 127. You have to repeat the procedure for every track you want to fade in. Cheers!

At 09:36 1998-07-13 +0100, Jordi Contreras Sune wrote: > > Hello, I hope this mail not to be too much out of topic, but i would > >like to know if someone developing any program for the N has already tried > >something for receiving sysex via MIDI. I am trying it with windows NT, > >but i am stuck (its the very first time i program for windows, so i have > >had many problems). It's not out of topic, since it's related to the N. :) I'm not a programmer, but I've heard that the MIDI support in Windows NT can be troublesome. Perhaps somebody else knows exactly why? Talk with Greg Babineau (author of PCG2txt). He's experimenting with SysEx via Windows (hey, Greg, you reading this? :) ).

Hi all!! I'm working also on a tool related to the N264/N364, and I would like to know if Greg Banineau could share the PCG Hex format with me. Does anybody knows Gregs e-mail address? Anyone has addicional documentation (not included in manual pages) related to the N-Series? Thanks in advance, Alejandro. ******************************************** Alejandro del Hoyo Menchaca Intelligent Services Networks and Security Avantel, S.A. Monterrey, N.L. Mexico. ******************************************** >From *@*.syntegra.net Wed Jul 15 07:57:25 1998 > >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21]) > > by mail.syntegra.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA01305; > > Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:52:24 +0200 (MET DST) > >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release > > 1.8c) with spool id 0291 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Wed, 15 Jul > > 1998 16:52:24 +0200 > >Received: from smtp.tninet.se (tjatte.tninet.se [195.100.94.70]) by > > mail.syntegra.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA01291 for > > <*@*.syntegra.net>; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:51:00 +0200 (MET DST) > >Received: (qmail 25282 invoked by uid 65537); 15 Jul 1998 16:49:00 +0200 > >Received: from du129-228.luth.tninet.se (HELO burken) (195.100.228.129) by > > tjatte.tninet.se with SMTP; 15 Jul 1998 16:49:00 +0200 > >Mime-Version: 1.0 > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Message-ID: <199807151451.*@*.syntegra.net> > >Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:48:31 +0200 > >Reply-To: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List <*@*.syntegra.net> > >Sender: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List <*@*.syntegra.net> > >From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE> > >Subject: Re: win programming > >To: *@*.syntegra.net > >In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980713092921.*@*.salleURL.ed u> > > > >At 09:36 1998-07-13 +0100, Jordi Contreras Sune wrote: > > >> >> Hello, I hope this mail not to be too much out of topic, but i would >> >>like to know if someone developing any program for the N has already tried >> >>something for receiving sysex via MIDI. I am trying it with windows NT, >> >>but i am stuck (its the very first time i program for windows, so i have >> >>had many problems). > > > >It's not out of topic, since it's related to the N. :) > > > >I'm not a programmer, but I've heard that the MIDI support in Windows NT > >can be troublesome. Perhaps somebody else knows exactly why? > > > >Talk with Greg Babineau (author of PCG2txt). He's experimenting with SysEx > >via Windows (hey, Greg, you reading this? :) ).

I recently put categorized lists of the progs and combis that came with your N (preload.pcg) on my site. They are compiled from the lists found on KORG USA's site, and ready for printing. Go here: http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/download.html

At 09:02 1998-07-15 -0700, Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca wrote: > >I'm working also on a tool related to the N264/N364, and I would like to > >know if Greg Banineau could share the PCG Hex format with me. > >Does anybody knows Gregs e-mail address? He is subscribed to this list. If you want his email address, you can download his PCG2txt archive from my site. If I remember correctly, he once told me that the PCG hex format is the same as the descriptions in the MIDI Implementation Charts in the back of the Reference Guide (pages 221 to 225).

At 20:42 1998-07-14 -0500, Rick Bell wrote: > >Forgive me if this is a stupid question or if it has already been asked Don't worry, no question is stupid! > >I can't seem to properly set up Cakewalk instrument/controller definitions > >for my n364. I was using 3.0, and I just upgraded to 6.01. > > > >The patch name definitions seem to work well, but Cakewalk does not seem to > >record controller messages from my n364 at all (sustain, pitch/bend, modulation, > >etc.).... Am I missing something? Cakewalk recording isn't affected by instrument definitions. It's most likely that it is a filter setting. I'm using Pro Audio 7, and the option windows have changed, so I don't know exactly where you can find the MIDI Filter window. There should be a window with checkboxes, where a checked midi controller will be recorded, and an unchecked controller will not. It seems all your checkboxes are unchecked?

On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca wrote: > > Hi all!! > > I'm working also on a tool related to the N264/N364, and I would like to > > know if Greg Banineau could share the PCG Hex format with me. > > Does anybody knows Gregs e-mail address? > > Anyone has addicional documentation (not included in manual pages) > > related to the N-Series? > > Well, I dont know if you have the file describing the PCG format (i found it time ago, while searching in a X3 page). I will attach it here because its very small (i suppose not everybody will be interested in it, but its very small) >> > >I'm not a programmer, but I've heard that the MIDI support in Windows > > NT >> > >can be troublesome. Perhaps somebody else knows exactly why? >> > > >> > >Talk with Greg Babineau (author of PCG2txt). He's experimenting with > > SysEx >> > >via Windows (hey, Greg, you reading this? :) ). Thats what i need :) . I have advanced a litlle bit by myself, but i dont know why my program only receives one sysex, and then ignores all the others . Ah, windows is SO nice... ;) x3_pcg.txt .pcg Overview Table \ By Daniel Joseph Oak \Internet=*@*.com For Korg X3 Music Workstation \ Korg X3-FTP FTP.NETCOM.COM /pub/jonin/midi/x3 This is the information I have on the x3 series .pcg file. (also known as KORG5 format) Note: all numbers givin are in decimal. (10 base) and are on record position. (i.e. first byte of file is at record position 1) The numbers are NOT in offset mode (i.e. first byte is offset 0) because I use Qbasic for programming and I am making this list dammit. :) If you want offset - subtract 1. If you want Hex - whip out your dec-hex calculator. :) Anything with a "?" means I havent a clue. (Tell me!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Record Pos Description Byte ------------ ------------------------------------------------------ ---- 1 - 5 KORG5 (Format ID) 5 6 - 88 ???????????????????? 83 +--Directory Start | 89 - 98 Combination A00 NAME 10 | Through (i.e. the names A01-A98 ) All are 10 | 1079 - 1088 Combination A99 NAME 10 | | 1089 - 1098 Combination B00 NAME 10 | Through (i.e. the names B01-B98 ) All are 10 | 2079 - 2088 Combination B99 NAME 10 | | 2089 - 2098 Program A00 NAME 10 | Through (i.e. the names A01-A98 ) All are 10 | 3079 - 3088 Program A99 NAME 10 | | 3089 - 3098 Program B00 NAME 10 | Through (i.e. the names B01-B98 ) All are 10 | 4079 - 4088 Program B99 NAME 10 +-Directory End 4089 - 4136 Global Section: (See X3Global.doc) 48 4137 - 6776 A Drum Section: (See X3Drums.doc) 2640 4137 - 4158 Drum Kit A1 - Index 0 Patch data 22 Through (i.e. Patch data for Kit A1 - Index 1-59) 5457 - 5478 Drum Kit A2 - Index 0 Patch data 22 Through (i.e. Patch data for Kit A2 - Index 1-59) 6777 - 20376 Combination Bank A Section: 13600 10 6777 - 6786 Combination A00 NAME 10 6787 - 6912 Combination A00 Patch data 126 Through (i.e. The name and patch data for A01-A99) 20377 - 36776 Programs Bank A Section: 16400 20377 - 20386 Program A00 NAME 10 20387 - 20540 Program A00 Patch Data 154 Through (i.e. The name apnd patch data for A01-A99) 36777 - 39416 B Drum Section (See X3Drums.doc) 2640 36777 - 36798 Drum Kit B1 - Index 0 Patch data 22 Through (i.e. Patch data for Kit B1 - Index 1-59) 38097 - 38118 Drum Kit B2 - Index 0 Patch data 22 Through (i.e. Patch data for Kit B2 - Index 1-59) 39417 - 53016 Combination Bank B Section: 13600 10 39417 - 39426 Combination B00 NAME 10 39427 - 39552 Combination B00 Patch data 126 Through (i.e. The name and patch data for B01-B99) 53017 - 69416 Programs Bank B Section: 16400 53017 - 53026 Program B00 NAME 10 53027 - 53180 Program B00 Patch Data 154 Through (i.e. The name apnd patch data for B01-B99) No eof marker. Total FIle Size: 69416 ____________________________________________________________________________ Whats Missing? Currently all I got is the names and the sizes of the patch data. I dont have any details on what each of the 154 bytes in a program or the 126 bytes in the combination patch area. I still havent a single clue what the heck record position 6 - 88 is for. Anybody have an idea on that one? There are areas in the global parameters that are missing or not understood. Please feel free to check out X3Global.doc for more details on that. The Drums Section needs a bit of fleashing out as well. Check out the X3Drums.doc for more details on the drums specifics beyond patch locations. What can you do? Pick a section - or email me first and ask which section you should do so we dont duplicate efforts. Then use the tried and true method of using a hex editor to see what the changes you make on a patch or whatnot does to the file. I have fabricated a general hex viewer to help me out and I will place it in my special programs directory /pub/jonin/dos if you want to use it. I am also going to make a program to help me disect the mess a bit by focusing on the key areas. (i.e. my program would only show the 126 bytes for patch A00) This might be more usefull as my program could know the values from the 'blank.pcg' and use that as a reference to highlight differences. If you find any hard information - please email it to me at *@*.com Or you can throw it in the X3-FTP incoming directory at FTP.NETCOM.COM (/pub/jonin/incoming for incoming files. /pub/jonin/x3 for X3-FTP) With a little help - we should have this file nailed down fairly quickly. Then we can get on to the patch-editor! :) Attachments: x3_pcg.txt 5,7 KB

Sorry to bother you, but: I need to know when to use acutes [ ' ] and when to use quotes [ " ] in the English language. When referring to something with a given name, should it be acutes - for example a song named 'Cartridge Creek'? If so, then when do I use quotes? Cheers!

I've put complete logs from this mailing list in the download area of my site! Notice that they are in no way edited. Occasional attachments haven't been removed. The log for June 1998 will be added shortly. The address to my site is in my signature below.

At 23:16 1998-07-15 +0100, Jordi Contreras Sune wrote: > >I have advanced a litlle bit by myself, > >but i dont know why my program only receives one sysex, and then ignores > >all the others . Ah, windows is SO nice... ;) It could perhaps have something to do with the chopping of SysEx messages into buffers in Windows? I don't know anything about it, but I've read a few texts by developers of SysEx managers who mention this...

I use acutes when nested in a quote: She replied, "I've always like the use of the 'William Tell Overture' in 'A Clockwork Orange', Kubrik's classic film."

Acutes are known as apostrophies in (at least American) English, and they can be used to indicate titles of works (books, songs, films, etc.)... You're right about that. They are also used to indicate ownership and contractions of words. Quotes are used to repeat a phrase someone said word-for-word, or sometimes (in a slang fashion) to sarcastically refer to something as another thing. In the English (again, at least in American English) M.L.A. writing guidelines (which I REALLY hate), it is explained how quotes are used to legally repeat a publishsed quote from someone's existing work inside your work. Example: Bob said, "My, it's hot outside." Fred replied, "Quit complaining." Another: In his writing, he replies, "But I didn't know she was still alive." Another: She is not "perfect", but she is close. I'm not an English major, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong... hope this helps, Rick Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > Sorry to bother you, but: > > > > I need to know when to use acutes [ ' ] and when to use quotes [ " ] in the > > English language. > > > > When referring to something with a given name, should it be acutes - for > > example a song named 'Cartridge Creek'? > > > > If so, then when do I use quotes? > > > > Cheers!

Kenneth, Thank you for the reply. I hope I'm not bogging you down with questions, but you seem to be the knowlegable one with these synths... of course, anyone else please feel free to reply &8) I checked the type filter window (see original message below), and the neccesary checkboxes are checked, so apparently it is recording everything it receives (except, of course, aftertouch by default), so that is not the problem. I just noticed something else that is probably related to my problem; the Cakewalk MIDI event send/receive icon in the Windows 95 tray (with the 2 little lights on it) does not light up when I move the bend/mod lever or the damper pedal on my N364... I think the keyboard is not sending those controller events out to the computer, and it seems to only send note on/off and velocity messages. I then tried another experiment; while Cakewalk is active, the N364 automatically sets Global's 3B "local" setting to "off" so all messages are sent out and echoed by Cakewalk back in to the N364. When it is set to "off" no controller messages are echoed back in to the N364, but when it is "on" it operates normally and all messages are received... If I use Cakewalk to record when local control is set to "on", the controllers will work within the N364, but they will not work when the recording is played back. Is there something I must enable in the n364 to send those events? Going from my previous experience with other synths, it seems odd that I would need to enable something on it to make it send controllers... And yet another experiment... I recorded using the N364's on-board sequencer (while local control was set to "on", of course), and *its own sequencer* did not record any controller messages, only note on/off and velocity. I think that is very odd.... To clear up any question about my setup, here it is: the N364's midi-out is connected to the computer's midi-in, and vice versa. When it is connected and I am sequencing, it is the only sound source in the midi daisychain. thank you, Rick Kenneth Jonsson wrote in reply to Rick Bell: >> > >I can't seem to properly set up Cakewalk instrument/controller definitions >> > >for my n364. I was using 3.0, and I just upgraded to 6.01. >> > > >> > >The patch name definitions seem to work well, but Cakewalk does not seem to >> > >record controller messages from my n364 at all (sustain, pitch/bend, > > modulation, >> > >etc.).... Am I missing something? > > > > Cakewalk recording isn't affected by instrument definitions. It's most > > likely that it is a filter setting. > > > > I'm using Pro Audio 7, and the option windows have changed, so I don't know > > exactly where you can find the MIDI Filter window. There should be a window > > with checkboxes, where a checked midi controller will be recorded, and an > > unchecked controller will not. It seems all your checkboxes are unchecked? > >

Hello, i'm trying to setup my N264 with cakewalk as well. I can get everything except Bank select messages to work, i few people have tried to tell me how to do it, but i just can't figure out how to use the midi controller, as in, where to put it, or what it is, or whatever else. If anyone can offer any help, i'd REALLY appreciate it! thanx! Mike Broer

HI ppl, how do u exactly record the sysex msg on yr cakewalk fm N ? Or how do u send the sysex msg fm N to cakewalk? Hasnat >From *@*.syntegra.net Sun Jun 21 01:04:57 1998 > >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21]) > > by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA17811; > > Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:35:38 +0200 (MET DST) > >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release > > 1.8c) with spool id 4187 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Sun, 21 Jun > > 1998 09:35:37 +0200 > >Received: from MNSi.Net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by mail.rijnhaave.nl > > (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id JAA17806 for <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; > > Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:35:35 +0200 (MET DST) > >Received: (*@*) by MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA04000 for > > <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 03:30:53 -0400 > >Received: from dyn208-28-55-146.win.mnsi.net(208.28.55.146) by e450.mnsi.net > > via smap (V2.0) id xma003990; Sun, 21 Jun 98 07:30:41 GMT > >X-Sender: *@*.MNSi.net > >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 > >Mime-Version: 1.0 > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Message-ID: <199806210730.*@*.Net> > >Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 03:30:53 -0400 > >Reply-To: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> > >Sender: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> > >From: Steve Wallis <*@*.NET> > >Subject: Re: Effects via SysEx > >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET > > > >There is one way around this. By setting the effects and parameters manually > >on the n364-then dumping it into cakewalk via sysex you can use all the various > >effects ect with cakewalk. Just load the sysex data into the begining of your > >song and save it. This will auto load (if you clicked auto in the sysex view) > >every time you load up your song. Not really the best way of going about it > >but at least you can sequence with different effects ect.. > >

On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: >> > >but i dont know why my program only receives one sysex, and then ignores > > > > It could perhaps have something to do with the chopping of SysEx messages > > into buffers in Windows? I don't know anything about it, but I've read a > > few texts by developers of SysEx managers who mention this... > > Yes! It seems it was my problem, because i was fed up of trying weird things when i decided to add another buffer and now it seems to work. Anyway, could you tell me where to find those texts (if they are via internet)? Maybe they are useful to me... You wanted to know what i am developing: well, i am just playing a little with all it, in my free time. The truth is that i have not decided what to do, but the first thing i would like to do is a sort of librarian, because i dont like using the N floppy drive (mainly because i have the synth in a table, and the floppy drive is almost touching the wall). Anyway, the status if what you have seen: still learning, but i hope to have done something useable at the end of the summer. Jordi.

Hi Just a couple of ideas to add to the replies you have had. Your "acutes" are better called apostrophes (as in US) or Single Quotes (if you've had a bit too drink and are feeling tongue-tied - You'd probably prefer to say, "Who's getting me a beer?" or asking has anyone got a copy of "Better Hangover Cures"). In UK English, "Acutes" are things used in spelling French words. Like graves and cedillas! Most of people are very casual about using " and ' , especially in the IT world, but if you stick to "" to highlight speech and titles as in the examples in the other replies you won't go far wrong. David Anderson

At 04:35 AM 7/19/98 PDT, you wrote: > >HI ppl, > > > > > >how do u exactly record the sysex msg on yr cakewalk fm N ? Or how do u > >send the sysex msg fm N to cakewalk? > > > >Hasnat Simply make all the adjustments manually on the synth first(panning/effects/send c&d levels/ect ect) then in cakewalk goto the sysex view. You'll see an option to recieve sysex data. Now go into global mode on the n364, and choose 'midi dump sequencer data'. Click recieve in cakewalk and it will transmit everything. If you want this data to auto load in cakewalk everytime you load your song, be sure to select 'auto' in the sysex view as well. Now just save the tune in cakewalk and your all set.

Thanks to those who replied! Now, if I refer to my song, should I write: [ ... my song "Lime Garden" ... ] or [ ... my song 'Lime Garden' ... ] ? In Swedish, it would be "Lime Garden". Oh, and [ ´ ] is called an apostrophe in Swedish also, but since &acute; in HTML prints a [ ´ ], I thought that's what it's called in English. ;)

At 20:12 1998-07-18 -0500, Rick Bell wrote: > >I hope I'm not bogging you down with questions, but you seem to be the > >knowlegable one with these synths... of course, anyone else please feel > >free to reply &8) No problem. I like to help! Though I'm sure there are people on this list who know more about our beloved N's than I do. Especially about sound programming. ;) > >Going from my previous experience with other synths, it seems odd that I > >would need to enable something on it to make it send controllers... I think I know what the problem is: Enter global mode, page 3D. If CTRL is set to DIS (DISable), your N won't send/receive any midi controllers. It is set to ENA (ENAble) by default, but this setting is saved in PCG's. Hence it's possible that you've loaded a PCG which had CTRL set to DIS... > >And yet another experiment... I recorded using the N364's on-board sequencer > >(while local control was set to "on", of course), and *its own sequencer* did > >not record any controller messages, only note on/off and velocity. I think > >that is very odd.... Hmm.. Check page 171 (or is it 172?) in the Reference Guide. Don't have the time to check right now, but you'll find a detailed description of what CTRL:ENA/DIS does. > >To clear up any question about my setup, here it is: the N364's midi-out is > >connected to the computer's midi-in, and vice versa. When it is connected > >and I am sequencing, it is the only sound source in the midi daisychain. Are you using a virtual midi port program (like Hubi's MIDI Loopback Device or similar) or a virtual midi cable program? These often have the ability to filter midi events in the background.

At 01:21 1998-07-19 -0700, Mike Broer wrote: > >i'm trying to setup my N264 with cakewalk. I can get everything except > >Bank select messages to work. i just can't figure out how to use the midi > >controller, as in, where to put it, or what it is, or whatever else. A quick note on midi controllers (no offence!): Midi controller messages are used to control things like volume, modulation (often vibrato), pitch bend etc from an external midi source. That is, everything that isn't note or velocity data (or SysEx - system exclusive data). Cakewalk has a built-in function called "Patch Change". This combines both a bank select and a sound select in a useful way. Depending on the version of Cakewalk you have, there is an "Insert" menu which has an entry named "Bank/Patch Change". First, go to the track where you want to do the patch change. Then put the track view position cursor (the vertical line) at the preferred time position. Then go to the "insert" menu, select "Bank/Patch Change". A window pops up. Select the bank and the patch you want, and a Patch Change message will be created. It is visible in list view. There's atleast one more way to do it. You can do it manually by inserting the necessary midi controllers, but the "Bank/Patch Change" function is a lot more quick & handy. I hope this helped.

At 00:21 1998-07-20 +0100, Jordi Contreras Sune wrote: >>> >>> but i dont know why my program only receives one sysex, and then ignores >> >> >> >> It could perhaps have something to do with the chopping of SysEx messages >> >> into buffers in Windows? I don't know anything about it, but I've read a >> >> few texts by developers of SysEx managers who mention this... >> >> > > Yes! It seems it was my problem, because i was fed up of trying weird > >things when i decided to add another buffer and now it seems to work. Ah! :) > >Anyway, could you tell me where to find those texts (if they are via > >internet)? Maybe they are useful to me... I'm sure you can read a lot about it in some Usenet newsgroup for midi program developers, but I don't know the address to such a group. The docs for MIDI Thruway (a great, free virtual midi cable program) contains info about this matter, in the Advanced Topics / System Exclusive Handling section. Download the program here: www.technotoys.com I know there are other sources, but I don't remember where... :( > >The truth is that i have not decided what to do, but the first thing i > >would like to do is a sort of librarian Please do! If enough people start doing librarians for the N264/N364, then maybe there will be one finished soon. ;) > >i dont like using the N floppy drive (mainly because i have the > >synth in a table, and the floppy drive is almost touching the wall). I don't like it because it's (extremely) slow and cumbersome. But I can't trust the SysEx manager I'm using (only 95% safe SysEx transfers), so I have to stick with it using the drive. :P > >Anyway, the status if what you have seen: still learning, but i > >hope to have done something useable at the end of the summer. I hope so too!

At 07:22 1998-07-20 -0400, Steve Wallis wrote: > >At 04:35 AM 7/19/98 PDT, you wrote: > >Simply make all the adjustments manually on the synth > >first(panning/effects/send c&d levels/ect ect) then in cakewalk goto the > >sysex view. You'll see an option to recieve sysex data. Now go into global > >mode on the n364, and choose 'midi dump sequencer data'. Click recieve in > >cakewalk and it will transmit everything. If you want this data to auto load > >in cakewalk everytime you load your song, be sure to select 'auto' in the > >sysex view as well. Now just save the tune in cakewalk and your all set. And as stated a couple of times before, it is a good idea to have the internal sequencer of your N totally empty when doing this, since the SysEx sequencer data dump contains ALL internal sequencer songs. An empty sequencer means a small SysEx dump, yielding a faster transfer over the midi cables.

On Mon, Jul 20, 1998 at 10:14:42PM +0200, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > ] or [ ... my song 'Lime Garden' ... ] ? > > > > In Swedish, it would be "Lime Garden". > > > > Oh, and [ ´ ] is called an apostrophe in Swedish also, but since &acute; in > > HTML prints a [ ´ ], I thought that's what it's called in English. ;) ... and since we're nitpicking off-topic, let me add my $0.02 :-) The proper apostrophe sign on a computer is this: [ ' ], not this: [ ´ ] nor this: [ ^Ò ]. It's ASCII 39, not 180 or 146 (both of these look like smaller quotes, and some misguided Windoze programs use them as quotes, confusing the hell out of anyone who tries to read the result on a non-Windoze OS).

How can we convert .wav's to .pcg's? Thanks -Mike

Mike, That is one thought I have had for ages !!!!! One cannot , only the software and sampling experts at KORG do that when they merge and process samples to make multisamples and then convert them into samples read by the internal KORG operating software . The trinity allows user to write new samples onto the ROM, but not the other KORG keyboards !!!! What can be done is that to save space and sequencer memory we can sample sounds from the COMBI section and covert them into single samples onto the sampler and then assign the complete sound onto one channel on the sequencer instead of wasting channels and polyphony!!!!! ---------- From: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 1998 11:55 PM To: SAMRATB; '*@* <*@*.syntegra.net>' Subject: Samples and PCG's -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- How can we convert .wav's to .pcg's? Thanks -Mike

At 16:55 1998-07-22 -0700, Mike wrote: > >How can we convert .wav's to .pcg's? Unfortunately not possible, I'm afraid. There is no sample RAM in the N264/N364 (the same goes for all other KORG synthesizers/keyboards/modules except for the Trinity series). There's only sample ROM. This means that the samples in the N264/N364 are fixed. Can't be removed, can't be replaced. Unless you're a true hardware genius. A PCG contains all program/combi settings (and a few more things), but no samples. Only parameter data. You will have to buy a sampler of some sort if you want to be able to use .wav's as instruments (though it's a bit more complicated than that). Many computer sound cards can be used as samplers, e.g. Soundblaster AWE64 Gold (which I use), Terratec EWS64XL etc etc etc. A stand-alone sampler is often quite expensive.

At 10:03 1998-07-23 +0000, Samrat Bharadwaj - K12 wrote: > >What can be done is that to save space and sequencer memory we can sample > >sounds from the COMBI section and covert them into single samples onto > >the sampler and then assign the complete sound onto one channel on the > >sequencer instead of wasting channels and polyphony!!!!! [If somebody didn't follow, he's talking about using an external sequencer and a hardware sampler (either stand-alone or built into a computer sound card).] That's an interesting method, also usable with programs that have controversial fx settings! There can be some trouble with this method though. If the combination varies a lot over time, i.e. a slow phaser sweep, timbres sweeping in and out in random patterns - not to mention different timbres in different velocity windows, it will be hard to do a good representation of that combination with a sample, unless that sample is very long. And as you mention above, more than one sample has to be recorded in order to do a good pitch representation when creating the sound in the sampler. The combi will most likely lose some quality... If the combination is of simple nature though, i.e. a plain bass/pad/something without much variation over time, that method will work perfectly! Anyway, it's a very interesting idea! I'll try it sometime!

hi. i havent seen much posting of people's music here so i'll try to get some publicity for my stuff. i make industrial type music. http://members.xoom.com/entity2k music is 100% programmed on the N264 tell me what ya think. i know the sound files are low quality but i wanted to make longer files so you can hear a good portion of the songs. some time in the future there will be higher quality files or mp3s once i figure out how to do that, but chek the ones that are there for now. =Þ thanx, kaliss

At 12:55 1998-07-23 -0700, Kaliss wrote: > >hi. i havent seen much posting of people's music here so i'll try to > >get some publicity for my stuff. I agree that there hasn't been many of these postings. Come on, people! :) > >i make industrial type music. music is 100% programmed on the N264. > >tell me what ya think. I like those songs, eventhough the quality isn't very nice - as you said. ;) > >some time in the future there will be higher quality files or > >mp3s once i figure out how to do that If you can make a .wav of your work (which you obviously can), then all you need to make an .mp3 is an mp3 compressor. There are several, freeware, shareware and commercial. If you have a PC, try L3Enc (freeware) or MP3 Producer Pro (great, but expensive).

Finally got a chance to listen. Sounds great!! Let us know when the demo is available! - erik Kaliss wrote: > > hi. i havent seen much posting of people's music here so i'll try to > > get some publicity for my stuff. > > i make industrial type music. > > > > http://members.xoom.com/entity2k > > > > music is 100% programmed on the N264 > > > > tell me what ya think. i know the sound files are low quality but i > > wanted to make longer files so you can hear a good portion of the > > songs. some time in the future there will be higher quality files or > > mp3s once i figure out how to do that, but chek the ones that are > > there for now. =Þ > > > > thanx, > > kaliss

For some reason, I have started to receive ALL the mailing list posts individually, instead of in Digest Form. I have made no changes. Anyone have any idea what has happened? If Digest Form is not longer available, I will have to unsubscribe, since I cannot deal with any additional messages on my system. Thanks for any help. Robert Neville *@*.com

Anything we can do to help !!!!! Hi !!! This is samrat from INDIA !!!!! bye

Hi, i have just been off this mailing list because i was busy. Can someone please sign me up again? Thanks -Toon

To subscribe to the KORG N264/N364 Mailing List, send a mail to *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET with "subscribe n-list" in the body. No subject needed. Samrat Bharadwaj - K12 wrote: > > Nope I can't really help you on this one !! > > Contact the list manger !!

Nope I can't really help you on this one !! Contact the list manger !!

At 18:41 1998-07-26 +0200, Toon Theuwis wrote: > >Hi, i have just been off this mailing list because i was busy. Can someone > >please sign me up again? I'll do it for you. Should've done it earlier, but I've been away. Welcome back! Next time, please ask us list owners to help you: *@*.syntegra.net You can send to that address even if you're not subscribed to the list.

At 22:54 1998-07-24 -0700, Robert Neville wrote: > >For some reason, I have started to receive ALL the mailing list posts > >individually, instead of in Digest Form. You have probably been auto-deleted by the mail server, and then added back by me quietly (members of this list are sometimes auto-deleted due to communications problems between the Syntegra mail server and their mail servers). The default list settings for each member is to not get mails in digest form. When you were added back, you got those default settings back too. I'll set the digest flag for you right away!! Sorry for any inconveniences! For all of you: You can set the digest flag yourself by sending this to *@*.syntegra.net: set n-list digest As always, if you have problems with this mailing list, please use this address to reach us list owners: *@*.syntegra.net

I just got my n364 two days ago and I am amazed. This machine is fantastic! However I have a few questions that I am sure all of you experts can answer for me. 1. Included were 6 disks that contain additional sounds and RPPPR's(sales incentive). Wich one contains the factory presets? 2. When additional .pcg's are loaded where do they reside?(what bank and number) 3. 2 of the 6 disks when loaded get no file error's but when I put them into my computer I see the files. 4. Any information you think would be informative for a new 364 owner. 5. The GM bank has an sound called "glocken" instead of drums as is mandated by the GM standard. Is something wrong? My only complaint so far is that combi sounds can not be sequenced. Thank you in advance for your responces. Have a great day -Mike

At 14:33 30-7-98 -0700, you wrote: > >I just got my n364 two days ago and I am amazed. This machine is > >fantastic! However I have a few questions that I am sure all of you > >experts can answer for me. Finally somebody who says a positive word about the N364 again... I am a very happy N264 user, and I don't like it that some people keep complaining about features the N-series keyboards don't have. > >1. Included were 6 disks that contain additional sounds and > >RPPPR's(sales incentive). Wich one contains the factory presets? I haven't had all 6, but my factory preset disk is clearly marked as preset disk. You need the disk with initial.pcg and so on. > >2. When additional .pcg's are loaded where do they reside?(what bank > >and number) Bank A and B (those are the RAM banks) (Bank C and D are the ROM banks, with X3 presets) > >3. 2 of the 6 disks when loaded get no file error's but when I put them > >into my computer I see the files. Are you are trying to load the right type of file ? For example when there are only .SNG files on the disk, you should select "Load Song" > >4. Any information you think would be informative for a new 364 owner. Try to load X3 patches, there are a whole lot of them. (The N264/364 is 99,9% backward compatible with the X2/X3 series) > >5. The GM bank has an sound called "glocken" instead of drums as is > >mandated by the GM standard. Is something wrong? Prg 10 should be "Glocken". My Yamaha TG-300 has also "Glocken" there. > >My only complaint so far is that combi sounds can not be sequenced. Yep, that's a pitty. Some more effects would be cool too... But you can't have everything :-) Greetings, Fedde Bouwman

I've got an N264, which I also just recently bought. I'll try to answer these questions as best I can... 1) The disk should be the one that says N364/N264 Music Workstation at the top of the disk label in large bold letters. It then lists a bunch of contents: Preload Program Preload Combination Demo Sequence RPPR Patterns These are all shown on the disk label. 2) Dunno - never tried it. 3) You're probably looking for the wrong type of files. The Nx64 usually only looks for one type of file. See your advanced users reference (the thicker of the two books): Page 183 for a way to fix this 4) Your keyboard rules - enjoy it! 5) No. The GM Drum kit works just fine. Track 10, usually... You can set up all standard MIDI stuff for any song bank by choosing the seqencer mode, selecting the appropriate song, hitting the [EDIT] key and going to page 8F. Then press [^/YES] twice. Now here's a question for everyone else. How come my 264 didn't come with anything other than a disk containing the presets when I hear about everyone else getting these RPPR patterns and stuff? Was I supposed to get them? Can I get them from anyone out there? Later! -B

At 02:33 PM 30/07/98 -0700, you wrote: > >I just got my n364 two days ago and I am amazed. This machine is > >fantastic! However I have a few questions that I am sure all of you > >experts can answer for me. > >2. When additional .pcg's are loaded where do they reside?(what bank > >and number) Whenever a new pcg is loaded into the n364 it will reside in program bank A and B. Combinations will reside in combi bank A & B. > >3. 2 of the 6 disks when loaded get no file error's but when I put them > >into my computer I see the files. When loading songs into your N364(PCG+SNG+PST) if the pst file(Contains pattern data) is missing, it will report an error. This is no big deal tho as all the sequencer data is in the .sng > >4. Any information you think would be informative for a new 364 owner. Dont rip the hair out of your head trying to figure out korgs wacked sysex charts in the manuals :) > >5. The GM bank has an sound called "glocken" instead of drums as is > >mandated by the GM standard. Is something wrong? Just a different name i think. The instrument should be the same. > >My only complaint so far is that combi sounds can not be sequenced. > >Thank you in advance for your responces. Have a great day The N364 was made to sequence with combinations. It took me 2 months to figure out how when i first got it tho:) Here's what ya do: in combi mode, find the combination you want to use. Then Click on "SEQ" once there, click on "edit". Now scroll up to menu 8E and it'll ask you for permision to copy the Combi to either tracks 1-8 or tracks 9-16. Choose where you want it copied to and hit Ok. Now your combination will be in the sequencer. For some reason combinations that have less than 8 tibres still take up 8 channels in the sequencer. If you copied the Comination to channels 1-8 all 8 channels(1 through 8) will default to channel 1 for play. And likewise if you copied it to channels 9-16 it will default to channel 9 for play. To get around this and free up them empty channels that the combi isnt using, simply select the unused track and press the left button 5 times-now asign it to a channel other than 1 or 9 (I usually asign it to its own channel-keeps things simple). If you need help using the effect placements(to asign effects to channels instead of all tracks) let me know.

Hi everybody, For the moment, i've got a Roland jv1080, great as a solo synth, but it's too complex and it deceives me as a multipart midi module. So i've decided to sell my jv and now i want to buy a standalone workstation, i've selected 2 synths : Korg N364 or Roland XP60. If you know well both synths, please help me to make my choice. My objective is to make raw GM sequence on the workstation and then put the finishing touches on the sequence with a windows based sequencer like Cubase. regards, Laurent

---------- From: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 9:33 PM To: SAMRATB; '*@* <*@*.syntegra.net>' Subject: "New Love" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- I just got my n364 two days ago and I am amazed. This machine is fantastic! However I have a few questions that I am sure all of you experts can answer for me. 1. Included were 6 disks that contain additional sounds and RPPPR's(sales incentive). Wich one contains the factory presets? 2. When additional .pcg's are loaded where do they reside?(what bank and number) 3. 2 of the 6 disks when loaded get no file error's but when I put them into my computer I see the files. 4. Any information you think would be informative for a new 364 owner. 5. The GM bank has an sound called "glocken" instead of drums as is mandated by the GM standard. Is something wrong? My only complaint so far is that combi sounds can not be sequenced. Thank you in advance for your responces. Have a great day -Mike HEY MIKE!!! Congrats on your new KEYBOARD!! AS time goes by you will realise that the n364 is really good and has immense sounds and a very cool architecture !!!! I have had it for a year now ....and its shining !!!! The KORG people loaded 2mb of new samples esp for Dance, Analog and Loops in this compared to the X series and others !!!! HEY !!!! BANK A is the best ............you can go www.synthzone.com And get thousands of new SOUNDS !!!!! And off course you can use COMBI in the sequencer......GO TO EDIT and copy to COMBI..... As time goes by and you get in to the architecture you will hear some very cool sounds !!!! HAVE FUN !!!!!

Its very simple : If you are into ANALOG sounds and want realtime controls GO FOR ROLAND . They have a killer BABY called the JP8000. If you just want GM sounds plus the regular sounds with good quality samples and clean effects with other features GO for KORG. If you want the wortlds best acoustic sounds, wind, bass and drums go for. Roland is NOT happening as far as drums and other family instruments are concerned. I have tried a XP50 and its just about OK .... THE Eps, Basses, Drums, Pads and organs are really good on the Nseries !!!!

>> > >My only complaint so far is that combi sounds can not be sequenced. > > Yep, that's a pitty. Some more effects would be cool too... > > But you can't have everything :-) > > I might be wrong, but you can easily put the combi's in sequencer mode. Just go to sequencer mode , hit EDIT and then go to screen 8B or 8C or something. it will ask you which combi to put in the sequencer. It is all about putting the sounds on different tracks, but on the same Channel. So in this way you can play 16 instruments by pressing just one key. Now I thought this was really obvious, but maybe I didn't quite get the exact problem here. Now, I notice that very few of us are willing to share songs with each other. How does everyone think about that. On our own website there is only one person who put his songs up there ready for download. I am willing to start putting things up for download as well. Who else is? Or is this all about copyright stuff? I think we can learn immensly from the way other people use combi's and effect settings and controller data. We could for instance write a few lines about what is going on in the song and how you use and change the settings. Let me hear your reactions, buddies. -Toon (Belgium)

> > Its very simple : > > If you are into ANALOG sounds and want realtime controls GO FOR ROLAND . > > They have a killer BABY called the JP8000. But Korg also has an incredible synthesizer with great real-time control thingies. I have seen and heard it once. It is called "Z1" I think it is better than the JP800 by Roland (remember that the jp8000 is 2 years old)

In my opinion, the sounds on the Korg are better (more natural) sounding than on the XP (I use a N264 at Church and a XP-50 at home).

At 16:18 31-7-98 +0000, you wrote: > >Its very simple : > >If you are into ANALOG sounds and want realtime controls GO FOR ROLAND . > >They have a killer BABY called the JP8000. > >If you just want GM sounds plus the regular sounds with good quality > >samples and clean effects with other features GO for KORG. If you want > >the wortlds best acoustic sounds, wind, bass and drums go for. > >Roland is NOT happening as far as drums and other family instruments are > >concerned. > >I have tried a XP50 and its just about OK .... > >THE Eps, Basses, Drums, Pads and organs are really good on the Nseries > >!!!! I friend a my has a XP50. In my opinion the differences are: Korg - Better effects - Much better synthesizer sounds (pads, leads, layer sounds, strange noises etc) - Better Drums - More patches in RAM/ROM (936 !), and lots of patches on internet (from X3) - Lots of combinations, which are very cool ! - Very suitable for live performance (due to combinations, and there are nice performance patches) - Good keyboard, very expressive - Patches have great playability - Suitable for ambient/dance/rock/funk music Roland - Better acoustic ('realistic') sounds, like sax, trompets, piano, church organs - More options like high/midpass filtering, resonance - Better GM set - Better suitable for writing songs then for live performance - Suitable for orchestra and classical music - More real-time controls, but there are mostly used as volume control => not interesting - Larger samples (16 Mb ROM), the samples are of better quality - Nice pianos - Expansion boards I agree that Korg' electrical piano, bass, drum, pad and organ patches are better than those of Roland. Roland' pianos are better though. But you can't say which synthesizer is better, it is just a matter of taste. Korg synthesizers sound fatter than Roland synths. Roland synthesizers have much high freq. in the patches (eg drums), some people like that very much. I would be nice to have both a Roland and a Korg :-) (so keep your JV-1080 and buy a N264 !) Greetz, Fedde Bouwman

The way to make your pads sound strange and counterplay the main melody ......... I have done this a lot of times in the sequencer section .... 1)Assign two programs to the same channel (eg; Tr01 and Tr02 on Channel 1G)... 2)Take the program A65 Padanomic on Tr01 and pan it hard A or B and TUNE the same Track in the EDIT section to a +7 .......... 3)Take the program C43 Bowen Wave on Tr02 panned hard A or B..... have fun !!!!!

Off course you can !!!??? Go to edit and and then go to Copy to Combi ..... The snag is that the eeffects are copied as well.....so stuff like delay chorus and and all will be affecting your drums bass etc .... TRY using small combination and pan them well.....and use less effects or genral stuff ...which can be applied throughout the tracks !!!!

---------- From: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 6:21 PM To: SAMRATB; '*@* <*@*.syntegra.net>' Subject: Re: KORG vs ROLAND -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- At 16:18 31-7-98 +0000, you wrote: > >Its very simple : > >If you are into ANALOG sounds and want realtime controls GO FOR ROLAND . > >They have a killer BABY called the JP8000. I friend a my has a XP50. In my opinion the differences are: Korg - Better effects - Much better synthesizer sounds (pads, leads, layer sounds, strange noises etc) - Better Drums - More patches in RAM/ROM (936 !), and lots of patches on internet (from X3) - Lots of combinations, which are very cool ! - Very suitable for live performance (due to combinations, and there are nice performance patches) - Good keyboard, very expressive - Patches have great playability - Suitable for ambient/dance/rock/funk music Roland - Better acoustic ('realistic') sounds, like sax, trompets, piano, church organs - More options like high/midpass filtering, resonance - Better GM set - Better suitable for writing songs then for live performance - Suitable for orchestra and classical music - More real-time controls, but there are mostly used as volume control => not interesting - Larger samples (16 Mb ROM), the samples are of better quality - Nice pianos - Expansion boards I agree that Korg' electrical piano, bass, drum, pad and organ patches are better than those of Roland. Roland' pianos are better though. But you can't say which synthesizer is better, it is just a matter of taste. Korg synthesizers sound fatter than Roland synths. Roland synthesizers have much high freq. in the patches (eg drums), some people like that very much. I would be nice to have both a Roland and a Korg :-) (so keep your JV-1080 and buy a N264 !) Greetz, SAMRAT's reply I have the highest respect for ROLAND stuff which is vintage ...as there analog emulations are excellent!!!!!!!! They have always made killer analog pads basses and eps and other sine and wave saw stuff....stuff like the Jupiter, Juno Tr808, 909, SH etc.... I never liked the roland JV or the XP cause the samples are not the ones that are suitable for dance a=mbient and tekno etc..... Plus the architecture suffreerd as the there was a complete absense of any realtime modulatio and frequency or cutoff or resosnance control............. Well that's all ...................

n the world ....the architecture is superb ...............I heard demos of it FOR ALL YOU I am attaching a file which ahs this SAX trumpet piece.....never heard stuff like this .........THE Z1 is ABSOLUTELY AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Check this out....this is not human .....sample + architecture !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [[ Z1LAYB~1.WAV : 1584 in Z1LAYB~1.WAV ]]

Hello people, I want to ask you not to send attachments over the list again, many people (like me) still use modems to get their mail, and if everyone just posts attachments it will take ages to download the stuff and give them a very high phonebill (at least it does in the Netherlands). If you want people to look at or hear some file please put them on an http server or ftp server and post the link in this list. You can use ftp.imagica/pub/incoming as a place to put your stuff. Or mail me the files and I'll put them there. I didn't restrict the size of messages send to the mailing list because I can't (the listserv is the light version), and I wanted this list to be an open list without any moderation or something like that. Please feel free to post any comments (I won't kick you off the list, hehe.. :) Greetings, Hero Idema

Hi i have a server you can use to send stuff about n-list ..so if you want you can send files sounds sequences and everything you want...relative to n - serie ftp://digicolor.com.pe/N-list Miguel Nishii Email:*@*.com.pe

At 19:01 1998-07-31 +0200, Toon Theuwis wrote: > >Now, I notice that very few of us are willing to share songs with each > >other. There are probably several reasons for that... People who make a living on their music don't want to share music since it might be ripped off. Even people who don't make a living on their music might still not want risk somebody stealing their stuff. Some don't want to spread their music since they don't think it's good enough, others don't make complete songs very often, etc etc etc... To everybody: It would be interesting to hear pieces of your music even if the N264/N364 plays a minor roll in the instrument setup. Why not put a clip or two on your homepage and post the address to this list? A few people have already done that, like Kaliss, Joakim Lundberg and me. Do like we have done! It's always interesting to hear what others have composed! Now, don't post your clips as mail attachments to this list! Nobody likes to download large public attachments. As mentioned above, put the files on your own homepage or one of the N-series ftp sites. > >I am willing to start putting things up for download as well. Who else is? Or > >is this all about copyright stuff? I think we can learn immensly from the > >way other people use combi's and effect settings and controller data. We > >could for instance write a few lines about what is going on in the song > >and how you use and change the settings. Let me hear your reactions, > >buddies. I agree to what you are saying! I would gladly put any music clips, SNG's, PCG's etc on my site if it was larger. I only have 10 MB space, and that's barely enough for two full-length mp3 songs. As mentioned above, put your stuff on your own homepage (get one of those free homepages if you don't already have one), or on the N-series ftp sites, which are three at the moment.

For those of you who have music clips (.wav, .mp3, .commonformat), SNG's, PCG's or something else you've done with or in conjunction with your N264/N364, and have nowhere to put them, here are the current N-series FTP sites: 1. ftp://ftp.imagica.net/pub/korg/ 2. ftp://ftp.ncal.verio.com/pub/users/sad001/ 3. ftp://digicolor.com.pe/N-list Upload directory for site 1 is ftp.imagica.net/pub/incoming/ Use an ftp program to upload. Any web browser (Netscape, Lynx, ... , IExplorer) is fine for downloading.

At 22:52 1998-07-30 -0500, john brian garner wrote: > >Now here's a question for everyone else. How come my 264 didn't come with > >anything other than a disk containing the presets when I hear about > >everyone else getting these RPPR patterns and stuff? > >Was I supposed to get them? Can I get them from anyone out there? KORG USA (and KORG Japan, I've heard?) had a promotional offer where you got 6 disks and some other stuff if you bought an N264 or an N364. It was only valid for US citizens, and the promotion offer is now over. You can most likely buy those disks at KORG USA's site, www.korg.com.

At 14:07 1998-07-14 -0400, Kyle Collinson wrote: > >OK, so the manuals say you have to go into sequencer mode to record > >patterns and songs. Is there any way to record a song or pattern using > >combinations? This is an eternal problem with the N264/N364, X3, N1/N5, etc etc etc. You can record songs and patterns using combinations, but not in a straight-forward manner. A combination consists of up to 8 programs played together. The sequencer has 16 tracks (and can infact be used as a 16 program combination). If you want to use a combination in sequencer mode, you will have to copy each program from the combination to its own separate track in the sequencer. This is cumbersome, so the KORG people provided a function in sequencer edit mode page 8E. With it, you can copy a combination to tracks 1 through 8 or 9 through 16 in the sequencer. If you copy to tracks 1 through 8, you will be able to play all the combination's programs by playing on track 1 (i.e. midi channel 1). If you copy to tracks 9 through 16, you can play all the combination's programs by playing on track 9. So far so good, but: You can't use more than two combinations (i.e. occupying all 16 tracks) at the same time in sequencer mode. Yes, you can if you have combinations which use less than 8 programs, but you'll have to copy each program and midi channel setting to the sequencer manually then. The other problem is that if you copy the combination's effect settings (can be done in sequencer edit mode page 7F) to the sequencer, then the other programs in the other tracks will have to use those same settings. Why? Read the appropriate section in the N264/N364 FAQ when it is released (very soon now). The release will be announced to this list.

Hi all, Here's part of a song that I wrote for a very good friend of mine. I gave it to her as a birthday present. The reason I am giving it to you fine people is because I think it is a good example of how you can bring a whole orchestra and a choir in your room only with your awesome Korg. This is only part of the song. Please don't plagiarize, but you are welcome to use the combi. Have fun. I hope to hear something from you as well. Let me know what you think. Cheers, Toon Deleted: Lara.sng An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were: Content-Type: APPLICATION/OCTET-STREAM; NAME="Lara.sng" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980802131311.*@*.rug.ac.be> Content-Description: Lara.sng (SNG -bestand) Attachments: Deleted: Lara.sng 304 bytes

Sorry, I read those mails about posting the songs only on FTP sites, after I put my song on this list as an attachment. WON'T happen again, I promise. now Samrat, I listened to your .wav file (which really took 5 minutes to download) and I was impressed by the quality of the recording itself. how did you manage to make such a wave file? I tried it once myself. I can hook my Korg up to the computer with some cables, and I can make a recording with my soundblaster, but there is so much noise on the background that it seems as if there is a heavy rainfall in the background. Do you use any particular software? I found a shareware site somewhere at Synthzone.com, and it looked as if they had some interesting shareware for recording .wav files. Please tell me how you made that good sounding .wav file. The reason I'd like to know is because I have a friend with a writable CD-Rom and if I have a good .wav file, I can finally put my songs on CD. cheers, Toon

At 13:14 1998-08-02 +0200, Toon Theuwis wrote: > >Here's part of a song that I wrote for a very good friend of mine. > >The reason I am giving it to you fine people is because I think it is a > >good example of how you can bring a whole orchestra and a choir in your > >room only with your awesome Korg. This is only part of the song. Please > >don't plagiarize, but you are welcome to use the combi. Have fun. I hope to > >hear something from you as well. Let me know what you think. Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant! Love that piece of music! Kept increasing the volume on my amplifier all the time, so at the peak part in the middle of the song, the speakers almost blew. :) Thanks for showing us how grand orchestra-influenced music can be done in the internal sequencer of an Nx64!! Impressive combi, too. You forgot to mention that we have to use preload.pcg for the sounds, though that's pretty obvious ofcourse.

At 13:30 1998-08-02 +0200, Toon Theuwis wrote: > >I read those mails about posting the songs only on FTP sites, after I put > >my song on this list as an attachment. WON'T happen again, I promise. It's ok! There isn't much of a problem with attachments as small as the one you posted yesterday (10 kb). I mean, how often do people post a SNG or a PCG to this list? Ok, a SNG can be rather large (>100 kb or something), and a PCG is about 68 kb, but if you zip-compress it, it will shrink considerably. Though, uploading the file(s) somewhere and post a link is preferable. [Audio recording] > >I can hook my Korg up to the computer with some cables, and I can make > >a recording with my soundblaster, but there is so much noise on the > >background that it seems as if there is a heavy rainfall in the background. > >Do you use any particular software? There are several ways to get a low-noise recording with a computer sound card. In your case, it's most likely that your Soundblaster card is causing the noise. You see, the hardware analog to digital converters (used when recording) are of pretty low quality. Also, the analog to digital circuitry (used for playback) is of quite low quality. If you have a Soundblaster AWE64 Gold it's a bit better though. To improve _output_ quality, make sure that you use "line-out" connector when connecting the sound card's output to your amplifier, and not the "speaker-out" connector. The "speaker-out" connector includes a lousy amplifier to drive "computer speakers" which don't have amplifiers built in. When recording, make sure to use the "line-in" connector and not the "mic-in" connector. The latter is more or less a noisegenerator, atleast for older Soundblaster cards. There is a great way to get rid of noise no matter what sound card you use, and that is to use an analytical denoiser program. With it, you first analyse a recording of the sound card noise (i.e. you record from your sound card without connecting any sound sources), and then let the program use its analysed data to remove that same noise from your real recording. For Windows-PC, I can recommend Sound Forge or Cool Edit for this purpose. The easiest way to get clean audio recording/playback though, is to buy a good sound card even if it can be a bit expensive.

Here's some cool songs that I converted into songs for the Korg N-series. Song0 is the theme to Monty Python's Flying Circus (send comments to *@*.umanitoba.ca ) Song1 is the Imperial March from those Star Wars movies and song2 is the James Bond theme. I did NOT transcribe these and take no credit for them. I just doctored them up. ftp://ftp.imagica.net/pub/incoming/kulsongs.zip

It has occured to me that it is better to use joystick up or down instead of the value slider to control effect intensity (prog/combi/seq edit mode page 7A and 7C). It seems the value slider only has a few distinct levels (20), while the joystick is more continuous (about 40 levels up, 40 down). When using joystick+slider combined with each other (slider is offset, joystick is relative to offset), it is possible to achieve a higher resolution, but non-linear and cumbersome. Did anybody else than me notice that when moving the value slider while recording in an external sequencer, it is represented by the RPN Data MSB/LSB midi controller couple (number 6 and 38)? Isn't that a bit odd, since the RPN's in the Nx64 are for pitch bend sensitivity and tuning?

someone mentioned a few days ago of a list specificly for the n5. And they posted a web address for it. Could that person please post this again? Thanks in advance, Mike http://www.jvlnet.com/~cam/

Will try and check that BIT about about the joystick and the effects ....\ I primarily use the Joystick as a Modulation, Filter and Frequency control !!!! thanks

Its just that most of us ....at least I use a a PCG which has been modified and then I seldom use the factory presets from bank C and D ............ Any one into Electronica and other dance stuff!!!???

Samrat Bharadwaj writes: > > HEY !!!! BANK A is the best ............you can go www.synthzone.com > > And get thousands of new SOUNDS !!!!! I've been to SynthZone and they have a lot of stuff. But I never cound find these thousands of new sounds. Can you tell me where in www.synthzone.com the sounds are? I've been looking for a long time and would like to get some. John

At 06:57 1998-08-03 -0400, Schulz, John wrote: > >I've been to SynthZone and they have a lot of stuff. But I never cound > >find these thousands of new sounds. Can you tell me where in > >www.synthzone.com the sounds are? I've been looking for a long time and > >would like to get some. Check the X3 pages that are linked there. I haven't been in the KORG section of Synth Zone for ages though, so I don't exactly know what can be found there (except a link to my N-page, hehe).

You won't find anything for specifically for the N364, but most of the X3 and X5 PCG's can be loaded into the N364/264. Try following the X3/X5/M1 links from SynthZone, you'll stumble into a PCG or 10 eventually... There's loads of these around: be warned some are duplicates, some are PCG's for specific songs that don't have any new sounds., some are not very good at all, but then there are some really good new sounds amidst the turmoil. Happy hunting!! A good place to start is: http://members.tor.shaw.wave.ca/%7Emarkr/korg/korg.html (The "Lots More..." link goes to zips of dozens of PCG's) Brian > >---------- > >From: Schulz, John[SMTP:John.*@*.COM] > >Sent: 03 August 1998 11:57 > >To: *@*.syntegra.net > >Subject: Thousands of new sounds? > > > >Samrat Bharadwaj writes: >> >> HEY !!!! BANK A is the best ............you can go www.synthzone.com >> >> And get thousands of new SOUNDS !!!!! > > > >I've been to SynthZone and they have a lot of stuff. But I never cound > >find these thousands of new sounds. Can you tell me where in > >www.synthzone.com the sounds are? I've been looking for a long time and > >would like to get some. > > > >John > >

i rarely use the joystick and slider but, i do use an expression pedal for effect control, vdf cutoff and of course... expression/volume control. ---Samrat Bharadwaj - K12 <*@*.NIIT.CO.IN> wrote: > > > > Will try and check that BIT about about the joystick and the effects > > ....\ > > I primarily use the Joystick as a Modulation, Filter and Frequency > > control !!!! > > thanks > >

i guess i'm sorta into electronica and dance, more in the vein of industrial, dark electro, ambient. one of my friends makes some pretty nifty industrial style muzik and he uses an N364! i was surprised at how well he can use it. i always thought the N was not totally ideal for my particular style of music but this guy has proved me wrong and he uses the factory presets alot but makes awesome "mini" combis in the sequencer. http://listen.to/EffEct47 mix and match them sounds!!! you'll get awesome results.

Thanks for the advise, Ken. Although I am a technology illiterate, I'll spend the following weeks trying to figure out what you told me. But I really appreciate the help. About Lara's song: I gave this to my friend on a tape, and you can imagine how crappy that sounded. I mean, you know what it feels like: You made a nice song and all your friend will hear is this noisy tape recording. Feels terrible. She liked the song, though. I don't know yet whether I'm going to pread the song on the net yet. I'll think about it for a while. This part you heard is actually near the end of the song. The beginning is pretty soft (because Lara is a very sweet girl) and near the end the song becomes as bombastic as a John Williams movie soundtrack (because Lara is also a very lively and energetic girl) I wrote it about a year ago (in november) when i had my Korg for 3 months. Actually I never took a single piano lesson. I have to admit that i can't read sheet music. I play totally by ear. This korg is actually the first sythesizer I have. before that I was still playing a very cheap keyboard with those tiny little keys(I bought it in 1989, a Yamaha). But eventually my fingers became too big, so I needed something bigger. and I bought my Korg in August last year. (i am 22, Studying English and Dutch litterature in Belgium) I really REALLY like the n364. I think the sounds are just amazing. Only thing is that I would like some more real time controllers like the Z1 or the Roland JP8000. But I am the last person to complain about the qualities of the N364. About the songs from other Korg owners that I have heard so far: I liked the KULSONGS that I downloaded yesterday. Especially the Bond-theme. But all those MIDI things are so stiff. I like sparkling music with free rhythm. Not necessarily Jazz, but just music to which rhythm isn't a restiction. I also like the songs (I forgot who made them) they were the first to be put up on the FTP site a couple of months ago: Luna-Moon, etc (3 songs) I thought those were really nice, but it wasn't free enough. Now this sounds more like I am talking about my musical preference than Giving my opinion on certain things. ( I never use step recording, I play everything with my own hands) But no matter what, I still like to listen to other people's music. I learn a lot from every song i hear. On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > There are several ways to get a low-noise recording with a computer sound > > card. In your case, it's most likely that your Soundblaster card is causing > > the noise. You see, the hardware analog to digital converters (used when > > recording) are of pretty low quality. Also, the analog to digital circuitry > > (used for playback) is of quite low quality. If you have a Soundblaster > > AWE64 Gold it's a bit better though. > > > > To improve _output_ quality, make sure that you use "line-out" connector > > when connecting the sound card's output to your amplifier, and not the > > "speaker-out" connector. The "speaker-out" connector includes a lousy > > amplifier to drive "computer speakers" which don't have amplifiers built in. > > > > When recording, make sure to use the "line-in" connector and not the > > "mic-in" connector. The latter is more or less a noisegenerator, atleast > > for older Soundblaster cards. > > > > There is a great way to get rid of noise no matter what sound card you use, > > and that is to use an analytical denoiser program. With it, you first > > analyse a recording of the sound card noise (i.e. you record from your > > sound card without connecting any sound sources), and then let the program > > use its analysed data to remove that same noise from your real recording. > > For Windows-PC, I can recommend Sound Forge or Cool Edit for this purpose. > > > > The easiest way to get clean audio recording/playback though, is to buy a > > good sound card even if it can be a bit expensive.

At 08:16 1998-08-03 -0700, Kaliss wrote: > >i rarely use the joystick and slider but, i do use an expression pedal > >for effect control, vdf cutoff and of course... expression/volume > >control. I neved did see an expression pedal. Does it have one or more pedals with different assignable funtions or? Somehow it seems to me that a pedal would be a bit hard to operate with precision, unless you're a real good car driver ofcourse... :)

Hi N-series fans, I was wondering if any of you have any experience with something: The difference between Cubase and Cakewalk as it pertains to the N-series (I have an N364 and an i5m). What's the easiest to use with the synths? Anyone have any ideas about harddisk recordign. Which program is actually best in that department (weighed against the midi-thing). Thanks! Ann Elisabeth http://home.sol.no/~aeno/

At 16:37 1998-08-04 +0000, Ann Elisabeth Nordbo wrote: > >I was wondering if any of you have any experience with something: > > > >The difference between Cubase and Cakewalk as it pertains to the > >N-series (I have an N364 and an i5m). > > > >What's the easiest to use with the synths? Anyone have any ideas > >about harddisk recordign. Which program is actually best in that > >department (weighed against the midi-thing). Well, if you compare the latest versions of Cakewalk Pro Audio 7 and Cubase 3.5x VST, there is not really much difference in what you can do. I think Cakewalk is more flexible, especially considering its built-in script language CAL, but Cubase has more built-in functions of which some are nice to have. Both are relatively easy to use, and have good midi and audio features. Cubase had a bit of an edge over Cakewalk when it came to audio, but not anymore. You can add good quality effects to the recorded audio with both programs. Even in realtime with Cakewalk, but I guess that's possible with Cubase too. One advantage with Cakewalk I can think of right now, is that it's possible to draw midi controller data by hand with the mouse. This can be very valuable at times. On the other hand, Cubase's detailed midi data edit view is better than Cakewalk's since it is part graphics, part data. Cakewalk's is data only, though more versatile than Cubase's. Cakewalk has one wonderful thing: the SysEx view window. In here you can put up to 256 different SysEx messages per song, and they can selectively be sent automatically to the midi port of your choice each time you load the song. I always use it to select the N364 mode. If I want the N364 in sequencer mode for one song, I simply put the required SysEx message in a bank in the SysEx view, tell it to use the midi port where I've connected my N364, and set it to auto. This way, whenever I load that particular song, my N364 will be put in seq mode. You can send program banks and other stuff in the same way. All in all, I've experienced more problems with Cubase than with Cakewalk. I find Cubase a bit annoying, but that's me. ;) If you can't decide, then go for the cheaper one. :)

I have found a sound editor for many MIDI devices including N264: SoundDiver from Emagic http://www.emagic.de/english/updates/sodiwin.html I have downloaded the demo version and tested the Ensoniq SQ2 module and works great ! Unfortunately, demo version does not include an editor for N264/N364, but complete version does. Does anybody know how it works for N264? Is this a good choice for an studio set with several MIDI devices? Regards, Alejandro.

Hi, Sorry it took me so long to reply. The format of the PCG file is pretty much listed in the tables at the end of the Reference guide of the N264/N364. The midi tables match the contents of the PCG files. I would be glad to answer any specific questions. My windows programming is moving forward, but not quite as fast as I would like. I will swing my efforts into a higher gear once autumn is over (about 4 months or so). Until then I have a lot to learn about Windows programming. Greg Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca wrote: > > > > Hi all!! > > I'm working also on a tool related to the N264/N364, and I would like to > > know if Greg Banineau could share the PCG Hex format with me. > > Does anybody knows Gregs e-mail address? > > Anyone has addicional documentation (not included in manual pages) > > related to the N-Series? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Alejandro. > > > > ******************************************** > > Alejandro del Hoyo Menchaca > > Intelligent Services Networks and Security > > Avantel, S.A. > > Monterrey, N.L. > > Mexico. > > ******************************************** > > > > >From *@*.syntegra.net Wed Jul 15 07:57:25 1998 >> > >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21]) >> > > by mail.syntegra.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA01305; >> > > Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:52:24 +0200 (MET DST) >> > >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP > > release >> > > 1.8c) with spool id 0291 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Wed, > > 15 Jul >> > > 1998 16:52:24 +0200 >> > >Received: from smtp.tninet.se (tjatte.tninet.se [195.100.94.70]) by >> > > mail.syntegra.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA01291 for >> > > <*@*.syntegra.net>; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:51:00 +0200 > > (MET DST) >> > >Received: (qmail 25282 invoked by uid 65537); 15 Jul 1998 16:49:00 > > +0200 >> > >Received: from du129-228.luth.tninet.se (HELO burken) (195.100.228.129) > > by >> > > tjatte.tninet.se with SMTP; 15 Jul 1998 16:49:00 +0200 >> > >Mime-Version: 1.0 >> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> > >Message-ID: <199807151451.*@*.syntegra.net> >> > >Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:48:31 +0200 >> > >Reply-To: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List <*@*.syntegra.net> >> > >Sender: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List <*@*.syntegra.net> >> > >From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE> >> > >Subject: Re: win programming >> > >To: *@*.syntegra.net >> > >In-Reply-To: > > <Pine.HPP.3.95.980713092921.*@*.salleURL.ed u> >> > > >> > >At 09:36 1998-07-13 +0100, Jordi Contreras Sune wrote: >> > > >>> > >> Hello, I hope this mail not to be too much out of topic, but i would >>> > >>like to know if someone developing any program for the N has already > > tried >>> > >>something for receiving sysex via MIDI. I am trying it with windows > > NT, >>> > >>but i am stuck (its the very first time i program for windows, so i > > have >>> > >>had many problems). >> > > >> > >It's not out of topic, since it's related to the N. :) >> > > >> > >I'm not a programmer, but I've heard that the MIDI support in Windows > > NT >> > >can be troublesome. Perhaps somebody else knows exactly why? >> > > >> > >Talk with Greg Babineau (author of PCG2txt). He's experimenting with > > SysEx >> > >via Windows (hey, Greg, you reading this? :) ).

I'm working on the sysex MIDI stuff right now. Unfortunately I'm also learning to code for Windows. The windows programming is a job in itself, but putting all of the subtle complexities of MIDI into the picture just makes things that much tougher. I am willing to look at any specific questions. I will try to keep up with the list. Any questions can be placed here. That way anyone that is interested can follow. Greg Jordi Contreras Sune wrote: > > > > Hello, I hope this mail not to be too much out of topic, but i would > > like to know if someone developing any program for the N has already tried > > something for receiving sysex via MIDI. I am trying it with windows NT, > > but i am stuck (its the very first time i program for windows, so i have > > had many problems). > > I downloaded both PST and pcg2txt, which are very good, maybe the ones > > who wrote them could help me. Thanks in advance. > > > > Jordi

Toon Theuwis wrote: Very well done. This is inspiration to continue my work on a patch editor. Thanks for posting this. Maybe when I have a thicker skin I will put some of my work up here. Greg > > > > Hi all, > > > > Here's part of a song that I wrote for a very good friend of mine. I gave > > it to her as a birthday present. > > The reason I am giving it to you fine people is because I think it is a > > good example of how you can bring a whole orchestra and a choir in your > > room only with your awesome Korg. This is only part of the song. Please > > don't plagiarize, but you are welcome to use the combi. Have fun. I hope to > > hear something from you as well. Let me know what you think. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Toon

Go to synthzone .... Go to the KORG page ... Go to any page with mention for x1 X2 X3 X5D Nseries, Go to Cobweb...that's my page ....you can get some new sounds !!!! Other than that you can finds lots others in the Homepages which lie in the links of the direct pages in synthzone ... TRY!!!!!

hey any Ambient trance people !!!! in there !!! I have been into this for a while , squeezing every pint of jiuce from my N 364!!!! I have been using all new sounds ....some tweaked and some created fresh by me !!!! I have looking for exchange and comments !!! Anyone !!!??? Samrat!!

Thre is one Editor on KENETH JONNSON's page the guy who rund this forum .... But I downloaded the ZIP file and then tried loading A PCG file ...and then the programs hangs !!! Off course microsoft is the father of hanging babies!!! Check the program out!!!!

At 10:11 1998-08-05 +0000, Samrat Bharadwaj - K12 wrote: > >Thre is one Editor on KENETH JONNSON's page the guy who rund this forum > >.... > >But I downloaded the ZIP file and then tried loading A PCG file ...and > >then the programs hangs !!! > >Off course microsoft is the father of hanging babies!!! > >Check the program out!!!! You mean the PCG/PST editor. It is in a very early beta stage, and might stay so for a while, since Peter lost his source code.

Finally, the "N264/N364 FAQ and Tips" has been released! You can download it from my site: http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/files/n-faq.zip There are two versions: one in RTF (Rich Text Format) format, and one in text-only format. The RTF file can be read by several text reading programs. Try MS Word or Wordpad if you're on a win95 system. I've also added a PCG by Samrat Bharadwaj on my site. You can find it in the download area.

killer - thanks -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Jonsson [mailto:*@*.TNINET.SE] Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 9:48 AM To: *@*.syntegra.net Subject: N264/N364 FAQ released! Finally, the "N264/N364 FAQ and Tips" has been released! You can download it from my site: http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/files/n-faq.zip There are two versions: one in RTF (Rich Text Format) format, and one in text-only format. The RTF file can be read by several text reading programs. Try MS Word or Wordpad if you're on a win95 system. I've also added a PCG by Samrat Bharadwaj on my site. You can find it in the download area.

Hey congratulations on the FAQ and tips on the N364!!!! Looks like we have quite a forum up here!!!! all you Korg heads...I have been seriously digging the architecture available to us inside the KORG N364...which is more or less like like the X1,X2, X3 and the O1W and the old daddy M1....The Advanced Integration !!! My music is a blend of ambient and electronica and all the added bits of Jungle and Drum n bass etc.... so i love ANALOG!! The .PCG you have downloaded will have some new Pads, Basses EPs, Drums and other Sine and Saw sample sounds with realtime modulation and filter control thru the joystick.... the reason I have'nt used the slider or footswitch ...cause they are redundent in the sequencer section .... Most of the sounds will have modulation sweep in with time or aftertouch ... Then instead of pitch bending I have used the + and - to control high frequencies....added with a dash of Phaser and delay ... I guess this is as Analog as we can get with the N-baby!!! When calling the sounds in the Sequencer into... 1)set bend range to 00 2)Pan the track to PRG (you will hear little fine left to right crossovers) 3)the joystick + and - will control frequency 4)Add A little phaser to add get more ANALOG!!! But then its all upto you to use the sounds however you like .... HAVE FUN !!!! please email me and let me know about the sounds !!!! *@*.niit.com *@*.com You can pick up more .PCG at my homepage www.internet-studio.com/cobweb I am thankful to Kenneth Jonnson for giving me this oppurtunity ... THANKS!!!!

Hi ! I'm Kei , I lived in hong kong, I ve just bought N364. After I bought N364 back home , I found that the user guide is too hard for me to understand ( maybe I don't have good enough level ). I ve tried hard to so solve the problem about how to real-time recording....and now I undstand how to do it but I 'm still can't find out how to record song pattern ..... I think that is the most important thing for making a song . Can anyone tell me how to record pattern? (simply )and I didn't know how to record drums sound( without the drum machine ) accurately ( i made the sound wrong beat ) I think that there is a fuction to correct your wrong beat . Thanks for answer my question!

I'd love to post some of my music or my band's music; I use the N364 a lot on it. I'm just not too knowledgable about audio streaming/data compression stuff. I tried to get RealAudio for our browser, but it wouldn't download right for some reason. I'm just finishing up doing demos for my band's new album--we used to N364 for the drums and bass since our demo studio only has 8 tracks (and our bass player isn't very tight yet). Here's a great way to help drums sound more realistic: run them through the room reverb. Set the reverb time fairly close to minimum (around 0.08 seconds or so), the high damping fairly high, the predelay fairly low, and the ER level around 70 or so. Then set the wet/dry ratio to about 70/30 or more. You may want to roll off some of the treble as well. All in all, it helped our drum parts sound pretty real (I had our drummer play them into the sequencer using an electronic kit, too). It makes the drums sound more like a cohesive drum set instead of a lot of individual sounds. So if anyone wants to educate me on this data compression stuff, I'd be happy to try to post some songs! Cheers! Alan

I plugged an expression pedal into the korg...granted, it wasn't a korg pedal...but it just wasn't smooth. It was real hard to control in a musical way. You got about halfway down and the sound just disappeared. Does the Korg pedal do this? Maybe I need one of those. My pedal works fine for doing wha-wha stuff, and controlling the rotary speaker effect, which is pretty much all I do with it anyway.

Hey alan !!! HI!!!! The two common compression methods used are Real and <PRG!!! MPEG is better cause the compression is more but the quality remains CD like allmost!!!! Real is GOOD but the highs are compromised!!!! You can get encoder of these off the net from a lot of places and players too..... You need not put a player on your site but the end users machine should have the players.... You can visit my homepage ....most of it is still bieng constructed!!! There are some MOEG files and the quality is really good ....small files...... MPEG compresses 12 or 8 or 6 times .... I hope this helps !!!! Bye Samrat www.internet-studio.com/cobweb

First of all, my n264 makes wierd background noises according to the effect used in the p/g/c (i.e., a shuffling noise that goes up and down on the two effects flanger and ens. hall.) Also, when I setup Cakewalk to use the keyboard no sound comes out of the headphones (on the n264.) I tried setting the devices to no longer use the n264, no result. The same when I disconnected the cables. The only time it plays is when a song is being played on Cakewalk.

You can find Samrat Bharadwaj's analog-influenced PCG and my replacement of program A00 "N264 Piano" on my site: http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/ Look in the download section.

At 23:04 1998-08-08 -0400, Alan ? wrote: > >I'd love to post some of my music or my band's music. I'm just not too > >knowledgable about audio streaming/data compression stuff. It seems this question ought to appear in the next update of the FAQ... ;) First record the music from your N364 to your computer, preferably in 16-bit 44.1 kHz stereo and as a .wav file. Several programs can do this. Next, get hold of an mp3 compressor: http://www.mp3.com/software/encoders.html Select one that is freeware and works with your computer. I guess most of them are for PC. Good choice for Windows95 seems to be CDex - which can create an mp3 directly from an audio CD track or from an external .wav file. Read the manual of the program you have downloaded, and then compress the .wav you recorded earlier to an .mp3. Try to select 128kbit/s (or higher) compression bitrate. You should now have an .mp3 that can be played with an mp3 player such as WinAMP or MacAMP. Try the above, and if it doesn't work, feel free to ask again. Cheers!

Hi there! I 'm new in here ,i ve just bought n364 and did n't know how to play piano before, so everytime I use my n364 to record the sound , I can't follow the beat accuratly is there any function in seqencer to correct them after record or can help me play them accurate? THANKS!

It's definitely needed to follow the clicks : dit- dah -dah -dah -dit :-) If you're using cakewalk you can fix the correct beat and notes with "piano roll" or use "Quantize" options. I don't really capable editing quantize with N -sequencer, I think Kenneth know about this.,... over to you Kenneth :-) NJ |--- Norman Johansyah-----| |--- Online Visual Design --| Sketchsite | The Uncharted Flash "Anything with Flash on it" http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/6211/sketchsite/uncharted.html Sketchsite "One step after printed matter" http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/6211/sketchsite/sketchsite.html maito:*@*.net.id icq # 1626124 -----Original Message----- From: Kei <*@*.COM> To: *@*.syntegra.net <*@*.syntegra.net> Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 4:05 PM Subject: help! > >Hi there! > > > >I 'm new in here ,i ve just bought n364 and did n't know how to play > >piano before, > > > >so everytime I use my n364 to record the sound , I can't follow the > >beat accuratly > > > >is there any function in seqencer to correct them after record or can > >help me play them > > > >accurate? > > > >THANKS!

if there is somebody here who wants to ask in spanish let me know it because i speak spansh so you can understand better (can you dig it me?) i understand english but can't write good english...sorry friends... -------------------------------------------------------------------------*** Mariano Latorre Aracena e-mail: *@*.uchile.cl *@*.uchile.cl WWW: http://cipres.cec.uchile.cl/~malatorr

There is a quantise function in the N364. It can adjust the notes to be on the beat, where that beat might be 1/4 or 1/8 notes or triplets, or other possibilities. Norman Johansyah wrote: > > It's definitely needed to follow the clicks : dit- dah -dah -dah -dit :-) > > If you're using cakewalk you can fix the correct beat and notes with "piano > > roll" or use "Quantize" options. I don't really capable editing quantize > > with N -sequencer, I think Kenneth know about this.,... > > > > over to you Kenneth :-) > > > > NJ > > > > |--- Norman Johansyah-----| > > |--- Online Visual Design --| > > Sketchsite | The Uncharted Flash "Anything with Flash on it" > > http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/6211/sketchsite/uncharted.html > > Sketchsite "One step after printed matter" > > http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/6211/sketchsite/sketchsite.html > > maito:*@*.net.id > > icq # 1626124 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kei <*@*.COM> > > To: *@*.syntegra.net <*@*.syntegra.net> > > Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 4:05 PM > > Subject: help! > > >> > >Hi there! >> > > >> > >I 'm new in here ,i ve just bought n364 and did n't know how to play >> > >piano before, >> > > >> > >so everytime I use my n364 to record the sound , I can't follow the >> > >beat accuratly >> > > >> > >is there any function in seqencer to correct them after record or can >> > >help me play them >> > > >> > >accurate? >> > > >> > >THANKS!

At 12:32 1998-08-12 -0400, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote: > >if there is somebody here who wants to ask in spanish let me know it > >because i speak spansh so you can understand better (can you dig it me?) Please keep all discussions on this list in English. If asking questions in another language, then please ask somebody talking the same language in private, i.e. not through this list. No hard feelings! :) > >i understand english but can't write good english...sorry friends... Your English is perfectly understandable, and that's what counts! :) Cheers!

I just bought the N264 and am having a ball figuring out how it can do everything except get me to heaven :-) I also just joined the list, so I figured I'd briefly introduce myself. Hi all! Dave Washburn http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short not to.

Yesterday I bought a Korg G4 rotary speaker emulator. It is a great combination with my N264 ! Using preset Combi B-36, I have an awesome organ. (with rotary effect disabled on N264, and less reverb) So if you are in to Hammond organs, try the G4 effect ! (If somebody is very interested, maybe I can make two MP3's, one with and one without G4) Greetz, Fedde Bouwman Holland

At 11:32 1998-08-10 -0500, Kyle Collinson wrote: > >First of all, my n264 makes wierd background noises according to the > >effect used in the p/g/c (i.e., a shuffling noise that goes up and down > >on the two effects flanger and ens. hall.) Please give an example of a program/combination that causes this weird noise for you. If the program is in a PCG other than preload.pcg, please state which. Please also specify exactly what noise you are referring to. This way people on this list are able to check if that noise is common to all N264/N364 machines. > >Also, when I setup Cakewalk to use the keyboard no sound comes out of > >the headphones (on the n264.) I tried setting the devices to no longer > >use the n264, no result. The same when I disconnected the cables. > >The only time it plays is when a song is being played on Cakewalk. If you disconnect the midi cables and play locally on the keyboard, do you then get sound in the headphones? I'm having difficulties understanding exactly what you mean... Hmm... wait a minute... do you get sound from outputs 1, 2, 3 or 4? If you don't, then check global menu page 3B. If LOCAL is set to OFF, then switch to ON. Now you will get sound from all ports when playing the keyboard. Cakewalk automatically switches LOCAL to OFF (as default - it is configurable) when it starts. Instead it echoes everything you play on your N264's keyboard back to your N264. This might seem stupid, but it is actually very smart. But that isn't the topic here. Hope this helps!

I am interested in such a comparison. Can I download it from somewhere? Regards, Joakim Lundberg -------------------------------------------------------- Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg 182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering SWEDEN +46-8-* http://www.skanska.com mailto:joakim.*@*.se -------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Fedde Bouwman [mailto:f.s.*@*.UTWENTE.NL] Sent: den 15 augusti 1998 14:16 To: *@*.syntegra.net Subject: Korg G4 effect for N264 Yesterday I bought a Korg G4 rotary speaker emulator. It is a great combination with my N264 ! Using preset Combi B-36, I have an awesome organ. (with rotary effect disabled on N264, and less reverb) So if you are in to Hammond organs, try the G4 effect ! (If somebody is very interested, maybe I can make two MP3's, one with and one without G4) Greetz, Fedde Bouwman Holland

At 14:39 17-8-98 +0200, you wrote: > >I am interested in such a comparison. > >Can I download it from somewhere? This week I don't have time to make mp3's (exams). Maybe next week... It will probably be put on Kenneth' site. Greetz, Fedde

I have a problem with my korg n264. I can hear a constant kind of background fuzz noise in my headphones when playing the keyboard. You really can't hear it when playing sounds but in any program or combi its there, louder for those sounds that have a lot of rez. type of effects in them. you can also hear the fuzz go through the effect processors for that particular program or combi, you can hear it in the sequencer too. :(. Do you have any idea, I never really noticed it this much before, I've had my keyboard for about 1.2 years now.

hi all! I've been looking around the net for the promotional disks that Korg is offering if you purchase an "n" keyboard between now an whenever the program expires. the FAQ sayed that the disks are available for sale at the Korg site, but i couldn't find them there. does anyone know where i can get my hands on these disks or the files on these disks? thanks. Lawrence.

Hello, I will be on holiday from the 21st of August till the 5th of September, now you'll probably think, "who cares, who's this bozo anyway". Well, this list is running on a server which I maintain. Unfortunately an upgrade of this machine is scheduled somewhere in my vacation. The server will be upgraded from a x86-based server to a Sun Sparc based server, which means the binaries of the listserver won't be compatible. So I need to recompile them. But since I'm not there I can only do this when I'm back from vacation. Until then the server will probably not respond and might even reject mail you send. I will try to move the upgrade to a later time, preferably when I'm back from vacation, to make the transition as smooth as possible. Any questions can be mailed to me or Kenneth. Well... See you all laters... Hero Idema Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services *@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl +31-(0)79-* *@*.nl

First of all, I've started a new section of my site (http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/) for people developing N-specific software. Check the Developer's Corner section. Thanks to Greg Babineau for the example C++ code. Also, a new version of Greg Babineau's PCG2TXT.EXE has been put in the download section. New version is 1.3 alpha. Cheers!

WELL PHASERS and Flangers CAUSE THIS FLOOR NOISE ...I REALLY LIKE IT WITH analoG SOUNDS ...BUT THEN IF YOU DON'T IT CAN BE GOT RID OF BY CHANGING THE EFFECTS OR REDUCING THE SEND RETURN RATIO !!! ---------- From: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List Sent: Monday, August 17, 1998 8:10 PM To: SAMRATB; '*@* <*@*.syntegra.net>' Subject: Fuzz noise -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- I have a problem with my korg n264. I can hear a constant kind of background fuzz noise in my headphones when playing the keyboard. You really can't hear it when playing sounds but in any program or combi its there, louder for those sounds that have a lot of rez. type of effects in them. you can also hear the fuzz go through the effect processors for that particular program or combi, you can hear it in the sequencer too. :(. Do you have any idea, I never really noticed it this much before, I've had my keyboard for about 1.2 years now.

At 15:37 1998-08-17 -0700, ikball boy wrote: > > I've been looking around the net for the promotional disks that Korg > >is offering if you purchase an "n" keyboard between now an whenever the > >program expires. the FAQ sayed that the disks are available for sale at > >the Korg site, but i couldn't find them there. does anyone know where i > >can get my hands on these disks or the files on these disks? I guess the FAQ could be more specific about this... You can find the list of KORG's disks on this URL: http://www.korg.com/cards.htm The disks are: XSD11 - X/i-Series Sound Alternatives Pgm Disk XSD12 - X/i-Series House and Funk Pgm Disk XSD13 - X/i-Series Pop Performances Pgm Disk KSSD8 - X-Series Power Disk (Drums) * KSSD9 - X/i-Series Organ Disk * The disks marked * might not be the same disks that were in the offer, but I guess so. The sixth disk - RPPR Drums - is the only N-specific one, and doesn't seem to be for sale!?

At 22:10 1998-08-17 +0200, Anthony Bonavera wrote: > >I can hear a constant kind of background fuzz noise in my headphones when > >playing the keyboard. You really can't hear it when playing sounds but in any > >program or combi its there, louder for those sounds that have a lot of rez. > >type of effects in them. you can also hear the fuzz go through the effect > >processors for that particular program or combi, you can hear it in the > >sequencer too. :(. Do you have any idea, I never really noticed it this much > >before, I've had my keyboard for about 1.2 years now. Do you have an example of a program or combi that has this fuzz noise? It might be that your N264 has become defect in some way. It could also be your headphones - perhaps the cable?

HAVE FUNS !!! ----------

Hey analog heads !! I have been tweaking the N architecture for a while now and getting some very eye poping results ...some very MONDO sounds!!! And real time modulation and filters ..ok enuff praise ...I need help!! I need some help on realtime panning options ...like a swell sounds which starts on the right and then goes left ..and so ....i don't want depend on effects ...ANY ideas!! Thanks !!! Samrat William orbit is the man !!!

> > I need some help on realtime panning options ...like a swell sounds which > > starts on the right and then goes left ..and so ....i don't want depend > > on effects ...ANY ideas!! By my knowledge it is impossible to pan from left to right without using FX. It would be nice if you could find a way to do it anyway. let me know. thanks and good luck. Toon

It wouldn't be line noise from your power outlet, would it? I had a major case of that with my n364, and I bought a surge protector with rfi/emi filtering... that fixed it quite well. If that's not the problem, then I'd say it's a defect. later, Rick Kenneth Jonsson wrote: > > At 22:10 1998-08-17 +0200, Anthony Bonavera wrote: > > >> > >I can hear a constant kind of background fuzz noise in my headphones when >> > >playing the keyboard. You really can't hear it when playing sounds but in > > any >> > >program or combi its there, louder for those sounds that have a lot of rez. >> > >type of effects in them. you can also hear the fuzz go through the effect >> > >processors for that particular program or combi, you can hear it in the >> > >sequencer too. :(. Do you have any idea, I never really noticed it this much >> > >before, I've had my keyboard for about 1.2 years now. > > > > Do you have an example of a program or combi that has this fuzz noise? > > > > It might be that your N264 has become defect in some way. It could also be > > your headphones - perhaps the cable?

Hello, While I'm on, I've got a problem also... Three keys on my N364 are starting to annoy me. They make a sticky sound (like adhesive being taken off of a surface) whenever I pull back after a key hit. It is the second highest C and the surrounding B and D that are doing it. I can also feel it from its movement when it happens, and that is even more annoying. I'm suspecting that there is a pad or something comming loose, and the adhesive side is catching something on the way up. Is something comming loose inside? Does it get covered by the warranty? Am I crazy? later, Rick

At 07:02 PM 20/08/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Hello, > > > >While I'm on, I've got a problem also... > > > >Three keys on my N364 are starting to annoy me. They make a sticky sound (like > >adhesive being taken off of a surface) whenever I pull back after a key hit. It is > >the second highest C and the surrounding B and D that are doing it. I can also feel > >it from its movement when it happens, and that is even more annoying. I'm suspecting > >that there is a pad or something comming loose, and the adhesive side is catching > >something on the way up. > > > >Is something comming loose inside? Does it get covered by the warranty? Am I crazy? Never had that problem before. Have you spilt anything(coffee/pop ect) on the n364? This may be the reason for the stickey keys.

Okay, are these disks somewhere online ? -] > I've been looking around the net for the promotional disks that Korg -] >is offering if you purchase an "n" keyboard between now an whenever the -] >program expires. the FAQ sayed that the disks are available for sale at -] >the Korg site, but i couldn't find them there. does anyone know where i -] >can get my hands on these disks or the files on these disks? -] -] I guess the FAQ could be more specific about this... -] -] You can find the list of KORG's disks on this URL: -] -] http://www.korg.com/cards.htm -] -] The disks are: -] -] XSD11 - X/i-Series Sound Alternatives Pgm Disk -] XSD12 - X/i-Series House and Funk Pgm Disk -] XSD13 - X/i-Series Pop Performances Pgm Disk -] KSSD8 - X-Series Power Disk (Drums) * -] KSSD9 - X/i-Series Organ Disk * -] -] The disks marked * might not be the same disks that were in the offer, but -] I guess so. -] -] The sixth disk - RPPR Drums - is the only N-specific one, and doesn't seem -] to be for sale!?

At 10:11 5/08/98 +0000, you wrote: > >Thre is one Editor on KENETH JONNSON's page the guy who rund this forum > >.... > >But I downloaded the ZIP file and then tried loading A PCG file ...and > >then the programs hangs !!! > >Off course microsoft is the father of hanging babies!!! > >Check the program out!!!! > > I have the same problem. Exacly the same. I had started was my problem but I've tested the program in more computers. Please check it!!

Yes, I have some keys that make some noise when you press them and then move left and right. a sort of screeching noise. It hasn't reached the point yet where it is bothering me. toon

I just downloaded and tried Ken's replacement for the N264 sound, and it's great. I like it a lot better than the original, which struck me as a little tinny, and definitely an octave too high. For a wonderful mellow sound that nevertheless has enough "kick" to fit a wide range of musical style, try putting it on a combi with A91, the DW-8000 EP. Add a nice Hall effect and just a touch of stereo delay, and OOOOH! Nice! Dave Washburn http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short not to.

I haven't spilled any liquids on it... in fact, I keep it covered all the time, so I don't think it would be caused by any of the common elements. I wish I could describe the sound and the feel... maybe if you take a piece of tape, roll it up so both sides are sticky, put it on the tip of your finger, lightly touch a surface, then pull away.... that's kinda how it is... thanks, Rick Steve Wallis wrote: > > Never had that problem before. Have you spilt anything(coffee/pop ect) on the > > n364? This may be the reason for the stickey keys.

I just read the FAQ and was pleased to see one about building a damper pedal. This wasn't a problem for me, since the store I bought my N264 from threw in the pedal at no extra charge. However, I'm now interested in the assignable pedal/sw, with which I would be able to do things like turn effects on and off, etc. I haven't seen anything in either the manuals or the faqs about this pedal. I'm handy with a soldering iron and know more than a little bit about switches etc.; is it possible to build my own, and if so, what do I need to do? Thanks, Dave Washburn http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur I don't have ADD. My brain has a multi-tasking, multi-threading operating system.

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Well, you can pan from midi using controller 10... Another way to do it is to create a program using two oscillators. Put the same multisample in each and pan one hard left and the other hard right. Then give them different amplitude envelopes. Of course, then the panning is a fixed thing, not really real-time controllable. you could also set up a combi that panned one sound hard right and on another channel the same sound hard left, then disable the controller features on one channel and enable them on the other. By setting the controller pedal input to expression, you could then fade in and out the enabled one. Of course, this will only pan from far to one side back to center, which would seem more annoying than anything else. This is a tough one. It seems like there would be a workaround, but I can't think of how to do it. Alan

Hi everybody!! I was just wondering if anyone of you had different non-preset pianos that will be able to send me for my n264? What I want is a real good piano saound that can give my compositions that "something" they need. Please let me know if somebody has them. Thanx a lot! CHHG

I don't mind if you have a new stuff , but I don't think it's a good idea by sending it through this mailing list. Please consider that some of us ( incl. myself ) uses a low bandwidth connection. Thanks, NJ |--- Norman Johansyah-----| |--- Online Visual Design --| Sketchsite | The Uncharted Flash "Anything with Flash on it" http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/6211/sketchsite/uncharted.html Sketchsite "One step after printed matter" http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/6211/sketchsite/sketchsite.html maito:*@*.net.id icq # 1626124 -----Original Message----- From: Samrat Bharadwaj - K12 <*@*.NIIT.CO.IN> To: *@*.syntegra.net <*@*.syntegra.net> Date: Sunday, August 23, 1998 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Piano info > > > >Hey check these out !!! > >I dunno if they fit your "something" > >[[ POP80.05R : 4618 in POP80.05R ]][[ JUPITE~1.PCG : 4619 in JUPITE~1.PCG > >]] > >

> > > > Hey check these out !!! > > I dunno if they fit your "something" > > [[ POP80.05R : 4618 in POP80.05R ]][[ JUPITE~1.PCG : 4619 in JUPITE~1.PCG > > ]] > > As someone else pointed out, it's not good netiquette to send attachments to a full list like this. A couple of better ways to do this would have been (a) go ahead and send the attachments, but send them only to the person who posted the question; (b) point the questioner and the rest of us to either a web site or an ftp site where the files could be downloaded. Also, it would have been a good idea to include some documentation with the file to let someone know whether you're giving a single voice, an entire set, or whatever. Dave Washburn http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short not to.

I've seen a lot of talk about Cakewalk, both on the Korg sites and here. I use Noteworthy Composer (www.ntworthy.com) and have found it to be both inexpensive and incredibly powerful. I'm wondering if anybody else here has used it, and how you think it compares? Dave Washburn http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short not to.

At 11:54 1998-08-21 +0200, Werner Van Belle wrote: > >-] > I've been looking around the net for the promotional disks that Korg > >-] >is offering if you purchase an "n" keyboard between now an whenever the > >-] >program expires. the FAQ sayed that the disks are available for sale at > >-] >the Korg site, but i couldn't find them there. does anyone know where i > >-] >can get my hands on these disks or the files on these disks? > >-] > >-] I guess the FAQ could be more specific about this... > >-] > >-] You can find the list of KORG's disks on this URL: > >-] > >-] http://www.korg.com/cards.htm > >-] > >-] The disks are: > >-] > >-] XSD11 - X/i-Series Sound Alternatives Pgm Disk > >-] XSD12 - X/i-Series House and Funk Pgm Disk > >-] XSD13 - X/i-Series Pop Performances Pgm Disk > >-] KSSD8 - X-Series Power Disk (Drums) * > >-] KSSD9 - X/i-Series Organ Disk * > >-] > >-] The disks marked * might not be the same disks that were in the offer, but > >-] I guess so. > >-] > >-] The sixth disk - RPPR Drums - is the only N-specific one, and doesn't seem > >-] to be for sale!? > > > > > >Okay, are these disks somewhere online ? Well, even though they probably are copyrighted, you can most likely find most of the material on these disks on PCG sites for the X3. The only disk that is N-specific is the RPPR Drums disk. This one is not to be found anywhere online, as far as I know.

At 13:16 1998-08-21 +0200, Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé wrote: > >I have the same problem. > >Exacly the same. I had started was my problem but I've tested the program in > >more computers. > > > >Please check it!! As mentioned before, the PCG editor by Peter Lazarus that's on my site is a very early beta. Work is being done right this minute on that program. A new, improved beta which is both more stable and rich of features is going to be released in a short while. The software developers are warming up, and things are moving forward.

At 23:17 1998-08-21 -0500, Rick Bell wrote: > >I haven't spilled any liquids on it... in fact, I keep it covered all the > >time, so I don't think it would be caused by any of the common elements. > > > >I wish I could describe the sound and the feel... maybe if you take a piece > >of tape, roll it up so both sides are sticky, put it on the tip of your > >finger, lightly touch a surface, then pull away.... that's kinda how it is.. I tried to stick a finger under the keys to feel the contact surface, but found that to be physically impossible, eventhough I have the thinnest fingers on earth. ;) I guess it's some kind of rubber. Perhaps it is glued to the plastic surface underneath. It might be that it was badly glued on that three-key spot you mentioned, so that the the rubber contact surface follows the keys a bit. I remember the good (ehm.. bad) old days when I had a Yahama PSR400 keyboard. The key suspension was really awful, solely consisting of soft rubber pads that were so weak that they fell apart after less than two years. This made the keys hang down, so I had to have it repaired. It was dead awful expensive. The point? Well, if you still have your warranty, then have the dealer take a look at it.

At 12:21 AM 23/08/98 +0000, you wrote: > > > >Hey check these out !!! > >I dunno if they fit your "something" > >[[ POP80.05R : 4618 in POP80.05R ]][[ JUPITE~1.PCG : 4619 in JUPITE~1.PCG > >]] whoever made that jupiter pcg, GOOD JOB! I love them sounds, Got any other pcg's like that? :) regards, Steve Wallis *@*.net

Hi, I am planning to buy a Korg 130. I was wondering if there is a group which is dedicated for i30. If there is one I would like to subscribe to it. Please let me know. regards, Chandra Murali

Hey first Indian on the List ....me too !!!! The I-30 is good as far as accompany and lil rthymic stuff is required ....it has good painos organs and Wholesome family instruments ....as a pro keyboerd the I series is not too hot and then the lack of a workstation is a lil bother .... for live performance and accompny its one of the best choices !!!! ciao samrat

HEY thanks man !!!! I created most of the new sounds !!! jus that my top cursor is konked off so I cannot rename them ....some were edited after I downloaded some PCGs were downloaded from the NET !!! I am still working on em .....more Analog madness will shortly be arriving !!! Will keep you informed !!! thanks again !!!!! The architecture inside rocks man !!!!........... Ciao Samrat *@*.niit.co.in

Hi everybody! I've been on the list for some monthes just watching, but i decided its time to participate. So here are my questions: -I read sometimes that on the net there are lots of Patches,many for the X3 that work on the N364.But...what exactly is a patch? A PATCH IS SET OF PARAMETERS WHICH SHAPE THE BASIC AND ADVANCED CHARACTERISTICS OF A SAMPLE . A PATCH IS A PROGRAM ! - I mostly use my keyboard to compose and i find Korg's sound terrific, but the internal sequencer....(Someday i will get courage and put my songs on a page...).Now i want to do sequencing on the computer. Is cakewalk the best software for this? (i know its a subjective question, but i would like to hear your opinions.) CAKEWALK, MOTU, any MIDI sequencer will do the JOB!!! - My soundcard is an old Logitech and i want to change it for a good one. Would a soundblaster do the work or i should go to something like a Soundcanvas, which would give me lots of new sounds? All the soundcards have compatibility with the N364? ANY SOUNDCARD ....but go dor the PRO ones ....The best ones are EVENT ELECTRONICS TURTLE BEACH SESSION 8 - What is the best way to record my music on the computer?in Wave format? Which program would do it? I have a demo version of Cooledit. WAVELAB2.0 COOLDEIT PRO SAW PLUS PROTOOLS(MAC it's the best of the best) Sorry to bother you with these questions that for sure have already been asked, but i dont have anyone else with as much experiense as many of you have. Thank very much for your questions, Beny

HEY I made them ....most of them ...and some are tweaked and edited from internet downloads !!! Have funs !!! Ciao Samrat!!! *@*.niit.co.in

On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Steve Wallis wrote: > > At 12:21 AM 23/08/98 +0000, you wrote: >> > > >> > >Hey check these out !!! >> > >I dunno if they fit your "something" >> > >[[ POP80.05R : 4618 in POP80.05R ]][[ JUPITE~1.PCG : 4619 in JUPITE~1.PCG >> > >]] > > > > whoever made that jupiter pcg, GOOD JOB! > > I love them sounds, Got any other pcg's > > like that? :) where did you find it? > > > > regards, > > > > Steve Wallis > > *@*.net > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------*** Mariano Latorre Aracena e-mail: *@*.uchile.cl *@*.uchile.cl WWW: http://cipres.cec.uchile.cl/~malatorr

Hi everybody! I've been on the list for some monthes just watching, but i decided its time to participate. So here are my questions: -I read sometimes that on the net there are lots of Patches,many for the X3 that work on the N364.But...what exactly is a patch? - I mostly use my keyboard to compose and i find Korg's sound terrific, but the internal sequencer....(Someday i will get courage and put my songs on a page...).Now i want to do sequencing on the computer. Is cakewalk the best software for this? (i know its a subjective question, but i would like to hear your opinions.) - My soundcard is an old Logitech and i want to change it for a good one. Would a soundblaster do the work or i should go to something like a Soundcanvas, which would give me lots of new sounds? All the soundcards have compatibility with the N364? - What is the best way to record my music on the computer?in Wave format? Which program would do it? I have a demo version of Cooledit. Sorry to bother you with these questions that for sure have already been asked, but i dont have anyone else with as much experiense as many of you have. Thank very much for your questions, Beny

> > -I read sometimes that on the net there are lots of Patches,many for the X3 > > that work on the N364.But...what exactly is a patch? A program or voice. "Patch" is an old word for it; Ensoniq calls it a voice, Korg calls it a program. I call it more fun than anybody should be allowed to have with one instrument :-) > > - I mostly use my keyboard to compose and i find Korg's sound terrific, but > > the internal sequencer....(Someday i will get courage and put my songs on a > > page...).Now i want to do sequencing on the computer. Is cakewalk the best > > software for this? (i know its a subjective question, but i would like to > > hear your opinions.) I haven't tried Cakewalk, so I can't comment. I use NoteWorthy Composer. You can download a test-drive copy from www.ntworthy.com and registration is only in the neighborhood of $40. It's a full-featured program that includes beaming, editable lyrics, easy ability to insert things like guitar chords, grace notes, you name it, and the front end is so easy even an adult can use it (at 45 years old I don't consider myself an adult...) It can save files in its own format or standard MIDI format so you can slap the file on a floppy disk and pump it into your Korg and play it through the Korg sequencer. If you use Windows 95 or later the 32-bit version also allows long file names. For recording, it provides several predefined rhythm files to provide a time base for it to transcribe your notes properly, or you can record your own rhythm file (I have several that I've created). It does an excellent job of transcribing, and when you print it allows you to fine-tune the size of both the lyric font and the staves, so you can get just the fit you want on each page. I love it. > > - My soundcard is an old Logitech and i want to change it for a good one. > > Would a soundblaster do the work or i should go to something like a > > Soundcanvas, which would give me lots of new sounds? All the soundcards > > have compatibility with the N364? As long as a sound card has a MIDI connector it should be compatible. I have the Soundblaster AWE64 and the voices ("patches" :-) that are in it are top quality; I can also plug the output of my N264 into the Line In jack and use it as a simple amplifier. > > - What is the best way to record my music on the computer?in Wave format? > > Which program would do it? I have a demo version of Cooledit. NoteWorthy Composer records off your keyboard in standard MIDI format. You can then save it as a MIDI file, or you can save it as NWC's own file format (saves a little disk space, but MIDI files are more portable). I've seen some programs that require you to provide your own time base using this or that note on the keyboard and keeping your own rhythm; this is one of the things I like about NWC, it gives you a steady beat both for your own benefit and for it to do its thing, thus freeing both hands to play the music and not have to worry about it. > > Sorry to bother you with these questions that for sure have already been > > asked, but i dont have anyone else with as much experiense as many of you > > have. I'm brand new to the N264, but I've been doing computer-geek stuff like this for years. Most recently, I was doing these same things with an Ensoniq KS-32. It was okay, but I don't like the weighted keys and the Korg has many more voices and gives me much more control over them. Basically, as long as you are using a sound card and a keyboard that can both handle the MIDI standard, you're in business. The disk drive in the N264 is a BIG plus over the Ensoniq, though. Dave Washburn http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short not to.

Hi all : Can u tell me how to make different sound with my n364 ? I feel that the default sounds is useless because many many is same like the same ! Can n364 creat new sound or I should use another think to do this ? or somewhere can download some data to input in n364? and after i download it , how can I load it in to n364 ? oh ,too many questions ,sorry ! Thankx alot !

Hi fellas, I have an urgent question and I need to know the answer as soon as possible because I have a performance on Thursday afternoon. (Tomorrow !!) My damper pedal broke today. No problem so far because it actually was only a cheap one. One that doesn't have the sensitivity. Just "all" or "nothing" (if you know what I mean) The problem is that I don't know if I should buy one that DOES have the "sensitivity" because I don't know if the Korg N364 will respond to it. The controller data will only give 127 (on) or 0 (off). It is on page 126 of the reference guide. I'd like one like those on real piano's, one that if you only press it half way, the sustain only last for a shorter while. Can any of you tell me if the Korg n364 only responds to "on" and "off" data from the damper or are there many scales or proportions in between. The last kind of damper pedal is more expensive and I'd feel stupid if I bought one for nothing. If you know the answer don't hesitate to mail back because I'm going to buy one tomorrow morning. Thanks a million. Toon

At 18:05 26-8-98 +0200, you wrote: > >Hi fellas, > > > >I have an urgent question and I need to know the answer as soon as > >possible because I have a performance on Thursday afternoon. (Tomorrow !!) > > > >My damper pedal broke today. No problem so far because it actually was > >only a cheap one. One that doesn't have the sensitivity. Just "all" or > >"nothing" (if you know what I mean) The problem is that I don't know if I > >should buy one that DOES have the "sensitivity" because I don't know if > >the Korg N364 will respond to it. The controller data will only give 127 > >(on) or 0 (off). It is on page 126 of the reference guide. I'd like one > >like those on real piano's, one that if you only press it half way, the > >sustain only last for a shorter while. Can any of you tell me if the Korg > >n364 only responds to "on" and "off" data from the damper or are there > >many scales or proportions in between. The last kind of damper pedal is > >more expensive and I'd feel stupid if I bought one for nothing. > > > >If you know the answer don't hesitate to mail back because I'm going to > >buy one tomorrow morning. > > > >Thanks a million. > > > >Toon As far as I know is the N264 damper pedal input only 2 state. So buy I cheap one. I would advise to buy a large pedal, with a part that can be put under your foot. I have a Roland damper pedal, which does the job OK. Greetz, Fedde Bouwman

Since programs are in the same format as .wav files, is there any way to import them into the N?

Dear Toon: I have tried many pedals with my N264, and even have made some of my own to get that personal "feel". However, I am deeply regretful to tell you that this babe, like most other keyboards, does not respond to damper sensitivity. (well, if somebody will just listen to the common cry of the people, and get some real response on this babe...) but don't take my obseration for granted... the sensitive pedal may just be the feel that you are looking for! *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 8/26/98, at 6:05 PM, Toon Theuwis wrote: > >Hi fellas, > > > >I have an urgent question and I need to know the answer as soon as > >possible because I have a performance on Thursday afternoon. (Tomorrow !!) > > > >My damper pedal broke today. No problem so far because it actually was > >only a cheap one. One that doesn't have the sensitivity. Just "all" or > >"nothing" (if you know what I mean) The problem is that I don't know if I > >should buy one that DOES have the "sensitivity" because I don't know if > >the Korg N364 will respond to it. The controller data will only give 127 > >(on) or 0 (off). It is on page 126 of the reference guide. I'd like one > >like those on real piano's, one that if you only press it half way, the > >sustain only last for a shorter while. Can any of you tell me if the Korg > >n364 only responds to "on" and "off" data from the damper or are there > >many scales or proportions in between. The last kind of damper pedal is > >more expensive and I'd feel stupid if I bought one for nothing. > > > >If you know the answer don't hesitate to mail back because I'm going to > >buy one tomorrow morning. > > > >Thanks a million. > > > >Toon

At 14:54 26/08/98 +0800, you wrote: > >Hi all : > > > >Can u tell me how to make different sound with my n364 ? > >I feel that the default sounds is useless because many many is same like > >the same ! > >Can n364 creat new sound or I should use another think to do this ? > >or somewhere can download some data to input in n364? > >and after i download it , how can I load it in to n364 ? > > > >oh ,too many questions ,sorry ! > > > >Thankx alot ! > > > >

Sam Where in hell (:) ) are your .PCG and .SNG in your web?? I can't download them 'cos my browser doesn't find them. TIA Rodri

At 11:32 10/08/98 -0500, you wrote: > >First of all, my n264 makes wierd background noises according to the > >effect used in the p/g/c (i.e., a shuffling noise that goes up and down > >on the two effects flanger and ens. hall.) Also, when I setup Cakewalk > >to use the keyboard no sound comes out of the headphones (on the n264.) > >I tried setting the devices to no longer use the n264, no result. The > >same when I disconnected the cables. The only time it plays is when a > >song is being played on Cakewalk. > > > >

At 14:54 26/08/98 +0800, you wrote: > >Hi all : > > > >Can u tell me how to make different sound with my n364 ? > >I feel that the default sounds is useless because many many is same like > >the same ! > >Can n364 creat new sound or I should use another think to do this ? Yes, you CAN. Simply look for EDIT PROGRAM MODE in your reference manual > >or somewhere can download some data to input in n364? Kenneth's Page is a good place to start. Some data and lots of links. (you're wellcome Ken ;) ) > >and after i download it , how can I load it in to n364 ? Just press [DISK] button, select what you want to load with the [PAGE +] button and load it. Bye Grok.

At 11:32 10/08/98 -0500, you wrote: > >First of all, my n264 makes wierd background noises according to the > >effect used in the p/g/c (i.e., a shuffling noise that goes up and down > >on the two effects flanger and ens. hall.) Also, when I setup Cakewalk > >to use the keyboard no sound comes out of the headphones (on the n264.) > >I tried setting the devices to no longer use the n264, no result. The > >same when I disconnected the cables. The only time it plays is when a > >song is being played on Cakewalk. > > If I've understood you (my English level :((). I think the problem is you haven't selected a track in Cakewalk (sometimes happens). Or, more probably, one other thing. When youhave your Nx64 conected to your computer via MIDI, it's switched ON and you start CAKEWALK. Your Nx64 turns its keyboard off. So it can receive MIDI messages, but if you play there's no souns. Solution?? Easy, go to Global settings. I can't remember the exact page, but one of them is about that (look reference guide), some help friends...I can't remember. And the next time will happen again...Solution: Swicth On your Nx64 after start CAKEWALK. Bye Grok

Problems between me and my EUDORA have made I posted here some private messages and reply others and...well lots of annoying stuff. Sorry. Rodri

Kyle Collinson writes: > > Since programs are in the same format as .wav files, is there any way > > to import them into the N? Programs couldn't possibly be in the same format as wav files. I don't know much about the internal format of an Nx64 Program but I do know this. It's a set of instructions for the instrument to reproduce a particular sound based on such things as pitch, envelope, effects settings and Multisounds. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here. A Program is most likely formatted as some kind of static database record which is not viewed over time but just sets up the instrument once and then it's done. The way you use a Program is to load it into your instrument. It then sets up the instrument to get ready to make a sound and then the instrument just sits there... waiting for you to hit a key to make a sound. The Program is done. A wav file is formatted as a list of waveform amplitudes from one moment to the next of a given sound. The sound can be simple or very complex and change over time. A wav file can contain anything from a simple short single sound (which could be used in a loop by a sampler) to a complete 75 piece orchestra playing all four movements of Beethovens 5th. A wav file is a recording. The way you use a .wav file is to look at it's contents at regular intervals and move a speaker to a position specified by the contents at that time. Most people use some kind of software to do this for them. As the software runs through the file, the speaker moves in such a way as to reproduce the original recorded sound. There are different rates used for looking at wav files. One common rate is 44.8KHz (44.8 KiloHertz). That means that the software gets a new piece of data from the wav file 48,000 times every second and dumps it out to the speaker as it goes. The wav file is not done until the sound has stopped. Now one note. Maybe you were saying Programs but thinking Multisounds. Multisounds are the same type of "recorded" waveform as you find in wav files (although I don't know for sure that they are at all in the same format). Multisounds are recordings of various base sounds selected by Korg that represent a good mix of many possible sounds that a musician might want to play and hear. What a Program does is tell the Nx64 how to play back one of those built in Multisounds. To answer your question: No. You can't import wav files into an Nx64 because the Multisounds are stored in ROM (Read Only Memory, that means you can't write to it). Also, as far as I know, the only way to get access to a Multisound at all is to have the Nx64 play it. You can't dump it to a floppy and you can't send it out over the MIDI port. It's one of those top secret things Korg likes to keep from us lowly end users. Multisounds (and how to use them) are, after all, at the root of the wicked cool "fat" sound that Korg is well known for. Hoping this clears up a few things for you, John

does anyone understand this? -----Original Message----- From: Rodrigo Borrego Bernabe [SMTP:*@*.USAL.ES] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 1998 6:34 AM To: *@*.syntegra.net Subject: Please sorry. Problems between me and my EUDORA have made I posted here some private messages and reply others and...well lots of annoying stuff. Sorry. Rodri

I think it is called "The Korg Syndrome". If you spend more than 36 hours on your Nx64 without sleeping, you feel the urge to talk nonsense. :) Toon On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, David Young wrote: > > does anyone understand this? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rodrigo Borrego Bernabe [SMTP:*@*.USAL.ES] > > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 1998 6:34 AM > > To: *@*.syntegra.net > > Subject: Please sorry. > > > > Problems between me and my EUDORA have made I posted here some private > > messages and reply others and...well lots of annoying stuff. > > > > Sorry. > > Rodri

Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official N-Series website...I mean it would have everything. FAQs, PCG's, a place to put new songs, contributions, downloads. whaddya think? I'm a graphic designer and need a nice "portfolio" and since I own the fine machine and have been rather disappointed by Korg's support of it, why not? So before I sit down and put it together I need to hear a unanimous "YAY" and an information base (i.e. y'all will have to help me gather info and such.) -Umang

> > Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official > > N-Series website...I mean it would have everything. FAQs, PCG's, a place > > to put new songs, contributions, downloads. whaddya think? I'm a graphic > > designer and need a nice "portfolio" and since I own the fine machine > > and have been rather disappointed by Korg's support of it, why not? So > > before I sit down and put it together I need to hear a unanimous "YAY" > > and an information base (i.e. y'all will have to help me gather info and > > such.) Put me down for one big "YAY"... Dave Washburn http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short not to.

ter moves like mad !!! Thanks for writing back....hers a .PCG I had made a while ago ...MOSTLY ANALOG stuff!!!! Check it out ...lemme know !!! Ciao Samrat!!! [[ JUPITE~1.PCG : 4119 in JUPITE~1.PCG ]]

Werner Van Belle wrote: > > > > ?????? > > > > -] > > -] Since programs are in the same format as .wav files, is there any way > > -] to import them into the N? > > > > is this ? > > > > I dont think programs are the same format as .wav files if you ask my > > silly opinion. > > > > Werner,- Well, progs and .wavs not directly the same format, but according to the basic guide, progs are "PCM Waveforms," the most widely used format in wav files. The differences are almost exactly the same as that of n-exclusive songs and standard midi files. Anyway, here's a suggestion for Peter Lazarus...maybe the next version of PST Manager could support this...

Does anyone know what a cent is? IN the master tune section of the global pararameters you can adjust the tuning of the instrument or the scale in cent steps around 440Hz. What is the value of a cent?

Me too :-)) -] > Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official -] > N-Series website...I mean it would have everything. FAQs, PCG's, a place -] > to put new songs, contributions, downloads. whaddya think? I'm a graphic -] > designer and need a nice "portfolio" and since I own the fine machine -] > and have been rather disappointed by Korg's support of it, why not? So -] > before I sit down and put it together I need to hear a unanimous "YAY" -] > and an information base (i.e. y'all will have to help me gather info and -] > such.) -] -] Put me down for one big "YAY"... -] Dave Washburn -] http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur -] When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short -] not to.

Sorry, but .wav files and .sng files are like chalk and cheese. No conversion possible or worth the effort. Peter Kyle Collinson wrote: > > Werner Van Belle wrote: >> > > >> > > ?????? >> > > >> > > -] >> > > -] Since programs are in the same format as .wav files, is there any way >> > > -] to import them into the N? >> > > >> > > is this ? >> > > >> > > I dont think programs are the same format as .wav files if you ask my >> > > silly opinion. >> > > >> > > Werner,- > > Well, progs and .wavs not directly the same format, but according to the > > basic guide, progs are "PCM Waveforms," the most widely used format in > > wav files. The differences are almost exactly the same as that of > > n-exclusive songs and standard midi files. Anyway, here's a suggestion > > for Peter Lazarus...maybe the next version of PST Manager could support > > this...

There's a big "YEP" from me too. sounds like a great idea. One forum for all the stuff about the Nx64 with songs, PCG's, ideas, ideas to create cool sounds, use effect settings in a way nobody else did before. Why didn't anyone think of this before. I'm in Toon On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Umang K Patel wrote: > > Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official > > N-Series website...I mean it would have everything. FAQs, PCG's, a place > > to put new songs, contributions, downloads. whaddya think? I'm a graphic > > designer and need a nice "portfolio" and since I own the fine machine > > and have been rather disappointed by Korg's support of it, why not? So > > before I sit down and put it together I need to hear a unanimous "YAY" > > and an information base (i.e. y'all will have to help me gather info and > > such.) > > > > -Umang > >

lederman wrote: > > > > Hi everybody! > > > > I've been on the list for some monthes just watching, but i decided its > > time to participate. So here are my questions: > > > > -I read sometimes that on the net there are lots of Patches,many for the X3 > > that work on the N364.But...what exactly is a patch? Well, I'm not sure, but I think that it's a set of songs or sound fx. > > - I mostly use my keyboard to compose and i find Korg's sound terrific, but > > the internal sequencer....(Someday i will get courage and put my songs on a > > page...).Now i want to do sequencing on the computer. Is cakewalk the best > > software for this? (i know its a subjective question, but i would like to > > hear your opinions.) Cakewalk is the easiest to use that I know of, but the most detailed that I know of is Finale. Here's a tip: goto the MIDI section in Control Panel and set the "Single Instrument" to MPU-401. Make sure that MIDI cables are hooked from the Nx64 to the CPU. Now, all MIDI will be played with your N's cool effects!! Oh, yeah, and unless you want to hear just one track, set it in sequencer mode. This works GREAT with video games that use General MIDI timbres. > > - My soundcard is an old Logitech and i want to change it for a good one. > > Would a soundblaster do the work or i should go to something like a > > Soundcanvas, which would give me lots of new sounds? All the soundcards > > have compatibility with the N364? I would suggest Diamond's Monster Sound 64. It's great for recording (hook a cord with a headphone jack on both ends from the N to the CPU, you'll probably need an adapter.) Anyway, the Monster Sound 64 is a dedicated sound card that uses a PCI bus, so it processes ALL sound and lets the computer focus on graphics, which speeds up framerates in games. > > - What is the best way to record my music on the computer?in Wave format? > > Which program would do it? I have a demo version of Cooledit. Any program that records will do the job. Like I said, about the cord from the headphone slot on the N to the recording slot on the CPU. As far as editing, ID Software used CoolEdit to make the sounds in Quake, so I guess you're pretty good off. > > Sorry to bother you with these questions that for sure have already been > > asked, but i dont have anyone else with as much experiense as many of you > > have. > > > > Thank very much for your questions, > > > > Beny That's all for now.

Just one word: YAY! (you asked for it, right? ) " Bless the Lord, O my soul, and all that is within me; bless His holy name." Psalm 103:1 Agape, Dallas Chang *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 8/27/98, at 4:40 PM, Umang K Patel wrote: > >Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official > >N-Series website...I mean it would have everything. FAQs, PCG's, a place > >to put new songs, contributions, downloads. whaddya think? I'm a graphic > >designer and need a nice "portfolio" and since I own the fine machine > >and have been rather disappointed by Korg's support of it, why not? So > >before I sit down and put it together I need to hear a unanimous "YAY" > >and an information base (i.e. y'all will have to help me gather info and > >such.) > > > >-Umang

Yay, your idea sounds good. TK -----Original Message----- From: Umang K Patel <ukp+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU> To: *@*.syntegra.net <*@*.syntegra.net> Date: Thursday, August 27, 1998 2:57 PM Subject: Official N-Series website > >Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official > >N-Series website...I mean it would have everything. FAQs, PCG's, a place > >to put new songs, contributions, downloads. whaddya think? I'm a graphic > >designer and need a nice "portfolio" and since I own the fine machine > >and have been rather disappointed by Korg's support of it, why not? So > >before I sit down and put it together I need to hear a unanimous "YAY" > >and an information base (i.e. y'all will have to help me gather info and > >such.) > > > >-Umang > >

Well, if you want i can give you some ''basic'' code which _can_ be usefull for linux users.. It's a simple program which read a program bank dump and splits it into different files. If you have splitted a lot of banks this way 1- you have an hard disk which runs out of disk space 2- you have every program as a file on your disk an you can send a single program to your korg. 3- you have an headache because it's completely command line driven (of course) Well.. The only usefull thing with this is that you can combine your banks as you need them. (Maybe some other tools do this already, but nevertheless it gives you some good info how to read the sysex info) If someone is interested let me know. I don't want to take the time to bring it online when nobody is interested :-) Werner,- -] There's a big "YEP" from me too. -] sounds like a great idea. One forum for all the stuff about the Nx64 -] with songs, PCG's, ideas, ideas to create cool sounds, use effect settings -] in a way nobody else did before. Why didn't anyone think of this before. -] I'm in -] -] Toon -] -] On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Umang K Patel wrote: -] -] > Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official -] > N-Series website...I mean it would have everything. FAQs, PCG's, a place -] > to put new songs, contributions, downloads. whaddya think? I'm a graphic -] > designer and need a nice "portfolio" and since I own the fine machine -] > and have been rather disappointed by Korg's support of it, why not? So -] > before I sit down and put it together I need to hear a unanimous "YAY" -] > and an information base (i.e. y'all will have to help me gather info and -] > such.) -] > -] > -Umang -] > -]

I'm interested in getting an N264, but I am interested in Ensoniq MR76. If some one could help me to choose..,please e-mail me? If some one have anything against MR76 please tell me...... My e-mail is: *@*.com.br Thankz Guilherme Ruppert

At 16:40 1998-08-27 -0400, Umang K Patel wrote: > >Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official > >N-Series website... Check my N264/N364 site first: http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/ It's been running in about 8 months (and is linked from SynthZone - www.synthzone.com). I have a download section for PCG/SNG/software, the N264/N364 FAQ, programming info, links etc. I can put any N264/N364-related file on the site, be it a physical file or a link. Songs and PCG's made by Nx64 people are very welcome. Send files as email attachments directly to me so I can put them online, but please ask me first. Wouldn't want my email account clogged. ;) I have a total of 20 MB space online for files + Hero Idema's N264/N364 ftp site. If you think something N264/N364-related is missing on the site, please tell me! If you have a homepage containing N264/N364 stuff, give me a link and I'll put it in the links section.

Public message from the N264/N364 mailing list maintainer: As said several times, please stop sending attachments to this list. Put your files somewhere and post a link to the list instead! If you don't have a place to put your files, then ask Hero & me: *@*.syntegra.net It's nice to receive new PCG's and SNG's, but not through this mailing list. All mails with attachments that bounce when the mail server tries to send to all 100+ members of the list, are bounced to us list owners also. Members who break the attachment rule repeatedly might have their posting permissions switched off. Thanks!

At 11:19 1998-08-28 +0200, Werner Van Belle wrote: > >Well, if you want i can give you some ''basic'' code which _can_ be > >usefull for linux users.. > > > >If someone is interested let me know. I don't want to take the > >time to bring it online when nobody is interested :-) Everybody is welcome to send KORG N264/N364-related/specific software to me (as mail attachments). I will put it on the download section of my N264/N364 site http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/ Software for any computer platform (Amiga/PC/Mac/Unix/Atari/BeOS/C64/etc) is welcome!

Hi, Can anyone tell me if it's at all possible to create a sound similar to the DX7's slap bass, on a Korg N5? Thanks. Tony She said: "I don't like Dream Theater that much, but I had a pen and some paper, so what the fuck." (Kevin Moore)

HI !!! If you are referring to those 80s FM bass sounds which everyone tries to emulate from the DX days ....i can send you some .PCGs but then they are not that FM or that the analog warmth is kinda fake in it ..... Dream Theater !!!!???? Ciao Samrat *@*.niit.co.in

I am all GAME for the Unofficial Npage .... If you need graphics support ... and JAVA applets tell me !!??? Thanks Ciao Samrat!!

No!!! People have full length songs which are as big as 4Mb ....it depands on the size of the server and how much space they allow you ... A wise thing top do is to get space in geocities or XOOm and then keep your downloades there and give a link to that site from your Mother site ...I have done this !!! Check out www.internet-studio.com/cobweb Ciao Samrat!!!

Hi. I have 2 really easy questions. 1. How do I assign midi channels on the N-364, using GM bank. It seems very hard to understand. 2. How do I record and playback General midi at the same time, on the Korg N-364, using an external sequencer. If I set it to GM bank sequencer mode - it only plays back. I hope you can help. Ciao Marc Ellis New Orleans http://www.fantomas.org Friends of Fantomas Homepage

> > Does anyone know what a cent is? IN the master tune section of the global Hi Peter, A cent is one-hundredth of a semi-tone. [1200 cents to an octave.] So on Korg synths, the master tuning can be adjusted + or - 50 cents, giving a full semi-tone sweep. Interestingly, although this value is commonly used for accurate tuning, most humans can't perceive a pitch change of less than 3 or 4 cents. jg::

Could you add me to the list for the N364 please? *@*.wave.ca Thanks a lot! -ALan

A cent, as the name implies, is one-one-hundredth of a semitone. I am not sure off- hand if cents are scaled linearly or logarithmically. I would assume that it is logarithmic since semitones are scaled logarithmically with respect to frequency. Either way, one hundred cents is one semitone. I believe that all "detune" parameters on the Korg are "cents" values. Alan

Ok, I managed to create an Mp3 file of one of my band's demos; even though it's only 2 min 46 seconds in length, the MP3 is 2.6 Mb, which is still too big to post on my tiny FTP site. Is this abnormal size for an MP3? I had to record it 44.1, 16 bit since Cakewalk didn't offer any other option.

Hi ! I'm kei ! Chinese ! I lived in Hong Kong, there is not common for playing midi in here ( at lease I don't have friends to play that ) Is there any chinese or any lived in Hong Kong can share their exp. with me? ( privately ) I 'm just want to met some net friends who play NX64 in Hong Kong ! please send email to me !

At 10:39 23/08/98 -0700, you wrote: > >I've seen a lot of talk about Cakewalk, both on the Korg sites and > >here. I use Noteworthy Composer (www.ntworthy.com) and have found it > >to be both inexpensive and incredibly powerful. I'm wondering if > >anybody else here has used it, and how you think it compares? I've been at www.ntworthy.com looking around. And I think Composer isn't able to work with audio. If its true it's a good reason to choose Cakewalk, Cubase or Logic. Seeu Grok

I will use a WAVE Editor software to convert that 44K-16bits file into an smaller/lower-quality file. To have 2 or 3Meg MP3 files is normal, but as you said, its too big for an FTP transfer. I'm trying to learn more about RealAudio, which will be the best protocol to publish my music on net. Alejandro.

Marc Ellis (by way of Kenneth Jonsson ) wrote: > > > > Hi. I have 2 really easy questions. > > > > 1. How do I assign midi channels on the N-364, using GM bank. It seems > > very hard to understand. I'm not sure what you're saying, but I have 2 ideas. 1st idea: Go to the sequencer edit mode and go up to 8F (the last page) and just hit the "yes" button. This will set every effect to a similar GM effect. If this isn't what you were talking about, here's another suggestion: once you enter sequencer mode go to the right 6 times. This is the channel that the track is on, and on the left is the track. I suggest you set every effect on a different channel, and put them on the same channel if you want to combine them (i.e., the trumpet is much more realistic combined with Marcato.) It's the same with regular progs. > > 2. How do I record and playback General midi at the same time, on the Korg > > N-364, using an external sequencer. > > > > If I set it to GM bank sequencer mode - it only plays back. The only solution I know for this is to record the song on the external sequencer, save it as a .mid file, and load it onto the N364. Then, go to the MultiRec option in Sequencer mode and turn it ON so that you can record extra notes manually. > > I hope you can help. > > > > Ciao > > > > Marc Ellis > > New Orleans > > http://www.fantomas.org > > Friends of Fantomas Homepage

> > Hi. I have 2 really easy questions. Hi. I have 2 really easy answers. They may or may not have anything to do with your questions :-) > > 1. How do I assign midi channels on the N-364, using GM bank. It seems > > very hard to understand. If you mean assigning, say, one particular voice to a channel other than the global channel, the only way I have found to do this is in Combi mode. If you need to assign GM voice 01 to channel 1 and GM voice 05 to channel 2, or something like that, put voice 01 on track 1 of a Combi and voice 05 on track 2 (or something along those lines, the numbers can vary of course). In Combi Edit mode, go to 3A and you can set the channel for each individual track. I do this all the time, see below. > > 2. How do I record and playback General midi at the same time, on the Korg > > N-364, using an external sequencer. Record and playback at the same time. Hmm, I'm not sure what you mean here. Here's what I do with my Oberheim Drummer, which is an external drum pattern sequencer. I set up my Combi with my drum kit (usually GM 129) on track 1, my main voice I want to play along with it on track 2, if I want to split or layer I set the other tracks up accordingly. Then I go to 3A and set track 1 to channel 10, which is the track my Drummer is set to output on. I usually leave the other tracks on the global channel (1 in my case). I set the Drummer the way I want it, fire it up and I get the drum sounds through my N264 and can play along as much as I want. That's in Combi mode, not sequencer mode, so I'm not recording the results of my efforts at that point. To my knowledge, if you literally mean "play back something that's in the sequencer on song X while recording it into the sequencer on song Y," it can't be done. Dave Washburn http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short not to.

Same for me last time i checked (a day ago to be exact) -] Sam -] Where in hell (:) ) are your .PCG and .SNG in your web?? -] I can't download them 'cos my browser doesn't find them. -] -] TIA -] Rodri

signoff n-list ************************************ Ron Hubbard Materials Mgr. Tektronix Inc. Microwave Logic Products 978-244-4279 ************************************ ------------- Original Text From: "Dave Washburn" <*@*.NET>, on 8/31/98 7:58 PM: > > Hi. I have 2 really easy questions. Hi. I have 2 really easy answers. They may or may not have anything to do with your questions :-) > > 1. How do I assign midi channels on the N-364, using GM bank. It seems > > very hard to understand. If you mean assigning, say, one particular voice to a channel other than the global channel, the only way I have found to do this is in Combi mode. If you need to assign GM voice 01 to channel 1 and GM voice 05 to channel 2, or something like that, put voice 01 on track 1 of a Combi and voice 05 on track 2 (or something along those lines, the numbers can vary of course). In Combi Edit mode, go to 3A and you can set the channel for each individual track. I do this all the time, see below. > > 2. How do I record and playback General midi at the same time, on the Korg > > N-364, using an external sequencer. Record and playback at the same time. Hmm, I'm not sure what you mean here. Here's what I do with my Oberheim Drummer, which is an external drum pattern sequencer. I set up my Combi with my drum kit (usually GM 129) on track 1, my main voice I want to play along with it on track 2, if I want to split or layer I set the other tracks up accordingly. Then I go to 3A and set track 1 to channel 10, which is the track my Drummer is set to output on. I usually leave the other tracks on the global channel (1 in my case). I set the Drummer the way I want it, fire it up and I get the drum sounds through my N264 and can play along as much as I want. That's in Combi mode, not sequencer mode, so I'm not recording the results of my efforts at that point. To my knowledge, if you literally mean "play back something that's in the sequencer on song X while recording it into the sequencer on song Y," it can't be done. Dave Washburn http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short not to.

Hi, Maybe this has been asked before, but how do I get the sounds from those pcg files that are on the net, to my N5? The supplied Mac editor doesn't seem to recognise them. Can anyone help me out here? Thanks. Tony She said: "I don't like Dream Theater that much, but I had a pen and some paper, so what the fuck." (Kevin Moore)

-] Maybe this has been asked before, but how do I get the sounds from those -] pcg files that are on the net, to my N5? The supplied Mac editor doesn't seem -] to recognise them. Can anyone help me out here? Thanks. You send your pcg from your first korg as a sysex to your PC. There you taken an hexeditor and changes one of the first bytes from 0x35 to whatever your N5 recognises (0x36 or 0x37). And after that you send your new sysex to your second korg. You'll probably need the reference manual from both machoines to debug the sysex format. Well... This is the way i use to change between korg machines. But there are probably better ways to do this :-) Werner,-

I have heard sine wave samples tweaked and twisted beyond hell on things like the Clavia Nordlead and JP8000.....the analog fat masters ...if you what I mean ....??!! I wondered that can my lil N364 do the same ....WHOA !!! it can ...allmost and then you gotta do it right!!! After much research and tweaking and whining I came to the conclusion ...that ...A SINE sample is the BEST manipulated and tuned so diversely....and then we cam do so much more with filter controls and envelopes and more .....SINE and SAW and RAMP samples can be tweaked the most and sound so different in diff settings !!! Anyone up for ramming their heads into the AI architecture ....it's a wild jungle in there You just have pull out and wang !!! I wish the screen was a lil bigger and like the TRINITY we could see a graphic representation ..... HEY !!! we need an EDITOR (with GUI) for the Nseries ....ANYONE !!!! Ciao Samrat