This is probably the first mail written in the new N-list! Calls for a
celebration!! :)
Anyway:
When I tried DANCE.PCG (downloaded from a site with PCGs for the X3) I
discovered that when playing program B20 (Sine Solo), one of the
fx-processors started backfeeding itself which produced a nasty high volume
SQUEAK in my speakers. This was fixed by first decreasing the delay time in
page 7D and then setting it back to its previous value.
Has anybody else experienced the same thing with that particular PCG (or
another one)? Hopefully it's just a bug with the PCG conversion routine in
the N. Else I might have a hardware fx-processor failure.. :(
Cheers!
At 05:33 AM 11/16/97 +0100, you wrote:
> When I tried DANCE.PCG (downloaded from a site with PCGs for the X3) I
> discovered that when playing program B20 (Sine Solo), one of the
> fx-processors started backfeeding itself which produced a nasty high volume
> SQUEAK in my speakers. This was fixed by first decreasing the delay time in
> page 7D and then setting it back to its previous value.
>
> Has anybody else experienced the same thing with that particular PCG (or
> another one)? Hopefully it's just a bug with the PCG conversion routine in
> the N. Else I might have a hardware fx-processor failure.. :(
>
> Cheers!
Hi Kenneth,
I have the same exact problem with that particular program. Ive yet to delete
it from the .pcg but plan to soon. Ive also had problems trying to sequence
them 303 type sounds. They *never* sound the same as program/combination
mode for some freak reason or another. Even when i copy the effects over it
looses a good 50% of the 'wah' and emulated resonance :( Have you had any luck
sequencing with those programs?
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
On 97-11-16, Steve Wallis wrote:
DANCE.PCG B20 SineSolo squeak:
> > I have the same exact problem with that particular program. Ive yet to
> > delete it from the .pcg but plan to soon.
You don't have to delete it! Just press [edit], go to page 7D and decrease
the delay time from 800 ms to 790 ms and the squeak disappears! The same
method works for the other few squeaking sounds in this PCG! Don't forget
to do a [write] afterwards though, or you will (like me) have your ears
fall off when playing a note after having switched to another program and
back. :)
I can send you my fixed N-specific version of DANCE.PCG as an attachment in
a private mail if you want to.
Anyway, I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one with this problem! This
means that there's just a bug with the X3-to-N PCG conversion routine, and
not a hardware error. Phew!
> > Ive also had problems trying to sequence
> > them 303 type sounds. They *never* sound the same as program/combination
> > mode for some freak reason or another. Even when i copy the effects over it
> > looses a good 50% of the 'wah' and emulated resonance :( Have you had any
> > luck sequencing with those programs?
When trying program A46 (JSSaw303) and A66 (JS/SQ/303) in the sequencer it
sounds 100% the same as in program mode, and I've tried all joystick Y
positions. Don't forget to set the send C/D on the used track to C=PRG and
D=PRG (seq edit page 1A). Also check that the fx placement is set to serial
(seq edit page 7E).
Combination A08 (St/JS 303) also sounds 100% the same in sequencer mode as
in combi mode.
There are cases when programs or combis sound like crap in the sequencer
though, and that's probably because the sound mixing routine of the N has
to homogenize the sounds to make the mix sound as good as possible. This
involves lowering the volume (to avoid clipping).
Cheerio!
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > When I tried DANCE.PCG (downloaded from a site with PCGs for the X3) I
> > discovered that when playing program B20 (Sine Solo), one of the
> > fx-processors started backfeeding itself which produced a nasty high volume
> > SQUEAK in my speakers. This was fixed by first decreasing the delay time in
> > page 7D and then setting it back to its previous value.
> >
> > Has anybody else experienced the same thing with that particular PCG (or
> > another one)?
Yes, I had the same problem, with the same program. Scared the life out
of me!
Thanks for posting the fix!
I was so impressed by the N-Series that I bought a N364 the very day it
hit the
stores! I was (and am!) VERY happy with it! The only regret that I have,
however
is the fact that I bought it too soon! Several months later, Korg began
giving away
a lot of stuff with the N-Series and the store I bought mine from was
giving away
even more with it. I was so mad! But the only thing that I really cared
about was
the extra disks that were included.
My one and only question is:
Does anybody have these disks? And if so, is it at all possible to get
me copies of
them? I would be VERY grateful!!
Kenneth, great job getting this list automated! I never posted before,
because it was
too much of a pain in the you-know-where, but I have always enjoyed
reading the
posts. Thanks again!
Erik Olson
I just got the 6 disks of sounds ( and headphones and $100) etc...
Although I'm in no mood to share my $100,
I'd be happy to send copies of the disks to whoever wants them.
All you need to do is send a SASE with enough postage to cover the
shipping, and
6 blank disks...
My hopes for this mailing list, when I heard of it being formed, was to
form a group of users who exchanged ideas, new sounds, disks, etc...so
that we could all use the N-series to its full potential.
So, what I'm trying to say here is this, feel free to send me any cool
stuff you have found, along with your request for the KORG disks...
Since I am on WebTV, I can't download anything from the internet.
I've got plenty of blank disks, and will happily send a SASE with blanks
for copies of the downloaded files.
Thanks
e-mail for mailing address,
*@*.net
Serf wrote:
> >
> > I just got the 6 disks of sounds ( and headphones and $100) etc...
> >
> > Although I'm in no mood to share my $100,
> > I'd be happy to send copies of the disks to whoever wants them.
> > All you need to do is send a SASE with enough postage to cover the
> > shipping, and
> > 6 blank disks...
> >
Could you attach the files on the disk on your e-mail ? I think that a
lot easier.
Anyway I have some PCG & SNG files from the web. Please read my other
post..
Augusth F H Hardiman
Hello everyone -
My name is Tore. I live near Oslo, Norway and I just bought an N364,
which is also my first synthesizer.
I tried out various keyboards and did not much like the sounds they
produced. I thought that by buying a synthesizer I would at least have
the freedom to correct whatever I was displeased with.
As it is, I find the N364 promising, but I miss the pungent bass sound
that you can get on a grand piano. What I want is not exactly a piano
sound, but some sort of el-piano with a real bass - you know, the deep
DZOOM sound that you also get on good acoustic guitars.
Any of you feel the same way? If you have a recipe for such a bass
sound, I'd like to hear about it.
Moreover, for sharing this type of data on the Net, has anyone made some
sort of standard chart for easy specification of program parameters? If
not, I might make one, unless the rest of you prefer to use files only.
Tore
Thank god I found this list!! I live in lima, Peru, and I have a N364, I
am using it with cakewalk 5.0 on win 95 with a mqx32 interface, I can
play sequences, but I can not record anything, I set the echo channel in
cakewalk in auto, but when I put the global midi channel on LOCAL OFF I
can hear anyuthing, what more do I have to set to record? Please somebady
help me!!!!
tony
> >could you attach the files to your email as an attachment?
WOW! is it that easy?
I need to hurry up and get a computer.
I can't do that because I have no way to transfer the information from
disk to e-mail.
hi everyone,
Another question I hv for u guys today. I want to know if it's possible to load just 1 patch/program from a disk to a progam lets say A01. What I did is edited c01 and d15 and automatically it saved them into a01 and b15. but now i want to keep a01 and want the old b15 back. How can I do that?
Pls let me know.
Thanx
Hasnat
PS: Kenneth this list server is awesom.
> >WOW! is it that easy?
> >I need to hurry up and get a computer.
> >I can't do that because I have no way to transfer the information from
> >disk to e-mail.
Why not, you have to write yours email messages in a computer right? so
the n364 disks are compatible.
tony
On Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 01:29:50PM -0600, Serf wrote:
> > I just got the 6 disks of sounds ( and headphones and $100) etc...
> >
> > Although I'm in no mood to share my $100,
> > I'd be happy to send copies of the disks to whoever wants them.
> > All you need to do is send a SASE with enough postage to cover the
> > shipping, and
> > 6 blank disks...
Can someone arrange to put these disks up on a website or ftp site? If
someone mails me the contents of the disks I can make them available
this way, but I don't really feel like sending 6 blank disks + SASE
overseas, it'd be easier and faster if someone in the USA did it.
> >can someone make these disks available through e-mail.
Although I can't save anything to disk at home, I can take the sound
disks to a friend and have her e-mail me the files.
Once she does that I can send them all to the list.
I'll send this out in the next day or two.
-Serf
On Tue, Nov 18, 1997 at 10:14:52AM -0600, Serf wrote:
>> > >can someone make these disks available through e-mail.
> >
> > Although I can't save anything to disk at home, I can take the sound
> > disks to a friend and have her e-mail me the files.
> > Once she does that I can send them all to the list.
> > I'll send this out in the next day or two.
Don't mail the contents of 6 floppies to everyone on the list!@! that's
pretty sure to hose a few mail spool systems, with something like 10
megs of mail at one time.
Feel free to send the whole disks to me, I know the mail system here can
take it, and then I'll make them available on a webpage and/or ftp site.
THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH! I've been trying to get my local music store to
dot his for me for some time....hope it works well... A thought, my mail
server has a limit to what I can send out as an attachment(somewhere
between 2 and 5 megs I believe) you may want to send the disks contents
one at a time to get around this limitation (if you have it) just a
thought, thank you VERY much, Jon
> >
>> >>can someone make these disks available through e-mail.
> >
> >Although I can't save anything to disk at home, I can take the sound
> >disks to a friend and have her e-mail me the files.
> >Once she does that I can send them all to the list.
> >I'll send this out in the next day or two.
> >-Serf
> >
At 10:14 18-11-97 -0600, you wrote:
>> >>can someone make these disks available through e-mail.
> >
> >Although I can't save anything to disk at home, I can take the sound
> >disks to a friend and have her e-mail me the files.
> >Once she does that I can send them all to the list.
> >I'll send this out in the next day or two.
> >-Serf
Hiya people,
I'm one of the list maintainers (the other is Kenneth), I don't care about sending binaries
over the mailing list, but keep in mind that there are modem users on the list, and sending
5 or 6 discs, about 1 meg each, over a modem line costs lots of time.
Rather you put them on some ftp or web site or something like that and announce the url
on the list.
Another more serious problem is, if you sent copyrighted binaries over the list, the company
where I work and where the listserver is running will be held responsible for whats in those
binaries. My boss doesn't like that.. So I ask you to please reconsider sending such binaries
over the list.
Hehe, my first message on the list and already I look like a whiner.. >:)
Greets from da Netherlands,
Hero Idema
> > Another question I hv for u guys today. I want to know if it's possible to
> > load just 1 patch/program from a disk to a progam lets say A01. What I
> > did is edited c01 and d15 and automatically it saved them into a01 and
> > a15. but now i want to keep a01 and want the old b15 back. How can I do
> > that?
Hehe, I recognize that problem. Once in a while I forget that bank C and D
of both the combis and programs are in ROM, and accidentally write over a
combi or program in bank A or B.
Anyway, the solution to the problem:
Insert the disk where you have the PCG, go to the disk menu, select page 2A
if you want to load 1 combi, or page 2B if you want to load 1 program. Do a
directory scan (by pressing the [arrow up/yes] button), select the PCG, and
then press right cursor button to enter the combi/program selection
subpage. There you select the combi/program you want to load, and where to
put it. Then choose ok and the combi/program will be copied to the memory.
You can use the same method to load 1 song, 1 pattern, 1 drumkit and 1
patternset by using pages 2C to 2F in disk menu.
> > PS: Kenneth this list server is awesom.
Well, thank you! Also give credit to Hero Idema, who so generously set the
list up for us!
Cheers!
At 17:46 1997-11-18 +0100, Roger Espel Llima wrote:
Sound disks:
> > Feel free to send the whole disks to me, I know the mail system here can
> > take it, and then I'll make them available on a webpage and/or ftp site.
That's a very good idea! There is also a way to put the disks as files on
this list server, but it could be troublesome for some of the users to
download them. Besides, I barely know how to upload files to the list
server myself. :)
I guess the best solution is for Serf to mail Roger the disks, and let
Roger put it on an FTP site! We would all benefit from having those disks!!
> > As it is, I find the N364 promising, but I miss the pungent bass sound
> > that you can get on a grand piano. What I want is not exactly a piano
> > sound, but some sort of el-piano with a real bass - you know, the deep
> > DZOOM sound that you also get on good acoustic guitars.
It could perhaps be done. I don't have a clue how this sounds though, so it
would be nice if you had a short sample you can attach to a mail and send
directly to me. I'm not a very experienced sound programmer, but I could
give it a try. Atleast I've managed to enhance sound A01 (N264 Piano),
making it richer and less dull.
> > Moreover, for sharing this type of data on the Net, has anyone made some
> > sort of standard chart for easy specification of program parameters? If
> > not, I might make one, unless the rest of you prefer to use files only.
Do you mean a computer program that can send parameters to the N via MIDI,
or a graphical chart making it easy to overview the parameters? Both are
welcome.
Cheers!
> > Another more serious problem is, if you sent copyrighted binaries over the
> > list, the company where I work and where the listserver is running will be
> > held responsible for whats in those binaries. My boss doesn't like that..
> > So I ask you to please reconsider sending such binaries over the list.
I came to think of that too. I wonder if those extra sound disks from KORG
are copyrighted material... I guess it is, but it really shouldn't be.
Anyway, as said before, please mail the disks privatly to Roger
(*@*.U-CLERMONT1.FR) and let him put them on an FTP site.
> > Hehe, my first message on the list and already I look like a whiner.. >:)
Yup, but we love you anyway. :)))
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >
>> > > As it is, I find the N364 promising, but I miss the pungent bass sound
>> > > that you can get on a grand piano. What I want is not exactly a piano
>> > > sound, but some sort of el-piano with a real bass - you know, the deep
>> > > DZOOM sound that you also get on good acoustic guitars.
> >
> > It could perhaps be done. I don't have a clue how this sounds though, so it
> > would be nice if you had a short sample you can attach to a mail and send
> > directly to me. I'm not a very experienced sound programmer, but I could
> > give it a try.
Thanks, Kenneth, but I have don't have the means to make any sort of
sound file. (I'll have to get such equipment, I guess.) The sound I
want is roughly what you hear if you play a great E (i.e. E2) on a grand
piano. Playing the bottom string of a guitar with a pick gives you a
sound that is fairly similar, IMO.
> > Atleast I've managed to enhance sound A01 (N264 Piano),
> > making it richer and less dull.
That is interesting. Could you say a word about what you did to it?
>> > > Moreover, for sharing this type of data on the Net, has anyone made some
>> > > sort of standard chart for easy specification of program parameters? If
>> > > not, I might make one, unless the rest of you prefer to use files only.
> >
> > Do you mean a computer program that can send parameters to the N via MIDI,
> > or a graphical chart making it easy to overview the parameters? Both are
> > welcome.
I meant a graphical chart, since this is easier to work with while
sitting at the Korg. Once it works well, it can always be computerized.
The thing is, there are dependencies between parameters, and these
should be clearly visible in a graphical chart if it is to be of any
real use. I'll think about it.
Tore
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > I'm not a very experienced sound programmer, but I could
> > give it a try. Atleast I've managed to enhance sound A01 (N264 Piano),
> > making it richer and less dull.
I feel the same way too about the sound A01 (N264 Piano). Could you
explain what have to be done to enhance that sound. Thank's...
August F H Hardiman
> >the best solution would be for serf to mail the entire disks to
Roger...and he could put them ...<snippity snip>
sounds fine by me...Roger...pssst...um...ya wanna send me a self
addressed stamped envelope...with postage that will work for 6 disks?
one of those manilla bubble wrap envelopes would work best...
besides...I like to pop the bubbles ...
I'll donate the 6 blank disks...just send the SASE...
e mail me for the addy...
Hi kenneth!
Just wanted to give you and everyone an updated address.
This account will be used by someone else now.
My address has changed to
*@*.com
Would really appreciate if everyone could change my address in their
mailing lists
thanks
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
>> > > As it is, I find the N364 promising, but I miss the pungent bass
> > sound
>> > > that you can get on a grand piano.ã^À^À What I want is not exactly a
> > piano
>> > > sound, but some sort of el-piano with a real bass - you know, the
> > deep
>> > > DZOOM sound that you also get on good acoustic guitars.
> >
> > It could perhaps be done. I don't have a clue how this sounds though,
> > so it
> > would be nice if you had a short sample you can attach to a mail and
> > send
> > directly to me. I'm not a very experienced sound programmer, but I
> > could
> > give it a try. Atleast I've managed to enhance sound A01 (N264 Piano),
> >
> > making it richer and less dull.
> >
>> > > Moreover, for sharing this type of data on the Net, has anyone made
> > some
>> > > sort of standard chart for easy specification of program parameters?
> > ã^À^À If
>> > > not, I might make one, unless the rest of you prefer to use files
> > only.
> >
> > Do you mean a computer program that can send parameters to the N via
> > MIDI,
> > or a graphical chart making it easy to overview the parameters? Both
> > are
> > welcome.
> >
> > Cheers!
I DONT THINK THERE ARE COPYRIGHTS ON THESE BUT I AM NOT SURE. I THINK THAT BCOS LOOK AT ALL OTHER PATCHES AVAILABLE ON THE NET INCLUDING THE N SOUNDS PRELOADS PLUS OTHER ROLAND, ENSONIQUE PATCHES.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.LUTH.SE]
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 1997 04:23
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Re: Sound disks
> > Another more serious problem is, if you sent copyrighted binaries over the
> > list, the company where I work and where the listserver is running will be
> > held responsible for whats in those binaries. My boss doesn't like that..
> > So I ask you to please reconsider sending such binaries over the list.
I came to think of that too. I wonder if those extra sound disks from KORG
are copyrighted material... I guess it is, but it really shouldn't be.
Anyway, as said before, please mail the disks privatly to Roger
(*@*.U-CLERMONT1.FR) and let him put them on an FTP site.
> > Hehe, my first message on the list and already I look like a whiner.. >:)
Yup, but we love you anyway. :)))
I bought my N364 as a demo instrument, since the store only had the one
on display. I wonder if they gave me all the stuff that was originally
in the package. What I got was
- one N364
- a power cord
- a crumpled manual
According to the manual there should have been a diskette too. And one
usually gets a registration card with such instruments. Maybe there
also was some folder with maps of programs and combination? I'd be
grateful if one of you would tell me what was in your package.
Tore
P.S.: I still hope Kenneth will tell us what he did to enhance the sound
of program A01 (N264 Piano).
My 364 came with
2 manuals... a power cord, a disk
reg card
ask the shop people to give you one
Tore Lund wrote:
> > I bought my N364 as a demo instrument, since the store only had the
> > one
> > on display.ã^À^À I wonder if they gave me all the stuff that was
> > originally
> > in the package.ã^À^À What I got was
> >
> > - one N364
> > - a power cord
> > - a crumpled manual
> >
> > According to the manual there should have been a diskette too.ã^À^À And
> > one
> > usually gets a registration card with such instruments.ã^À^À Maybe there
> >
> > also was some folder with maps of programs and combination?ã^À^À I'd be
> > grateful if one of you would tell me what was in your package.
> >
> > Tore
> >
> > P.S.: I still hope Kenneth will tell us what he did to enhance the
> > sound
> > of program A01 (N264 Piano).
> > --
> > Tore Lund <*@*.no>
ã^À^Àã^À^À
Nasar Haq wrote:
> >
> > My 364 came with
> > 2 manuals... a power cord, a disk
> > reg card
> >
> > ask the shop people to give you one
Great! Can you tell me what the second manual is all about? The one
I've got is called "Reference Guide".
Tore
the other ones called
THE BASIC GUIDE
as the name suggests... its basic.. simple and easy to understand....
I learned everything from it
very important guide
in the end also has names and banks for the sounds voices and patterns
ã^À^À
Tore Lund wrote:
> > Nasar Haq wrote:
>> > >
>> > > My 364 came with
>> > > 2 manuals... a power cord, a disk
>> > > reg card
>> > >
>> > > ask the shop people to give you one
> >
> > Great!ã^À^À Can you tell me what the second manual is all about?ã^À^À The
> > one
> > I've got is called "Reference Guide".
> >
> > Tore
> > --
> > Tore Lund <*@*.no>
ã^À^Àã^À^À
Hi everyone,
I want help to be able to use differents effects on different tracks in
sequenser mode. When I am trying to change the effect settings for one track
it seems like the other 15 tracks always will be affected by this. For
example, if I want one track to be "dry" (still in sequenser mode), eg.
without any effects at all, the other tracks become dry too. How can I
overcome this?
Leif Lund
P.S. I really like this mailing list! Great thing! D.S.
At 11:47 1997-11-19 +0100, Tore Lund wrote:
Special bass sound:
> > Thanks, Kenneth, but I have don't have the means to make any sort of
> > sound file. (I'll have to get such equipment, I guess.) The sound I
> > want is roughly what you hear if you play a great E (i.e. E2) on a grand
> > piano. Playing the bottom string of a guitar with a pick gives you a
> > sound that is fairly similar, IMO.
Oh, ok. Too bad I have neither a guitar nor a grand piano, so I'll have to
wait with helping you until I know exactly how it should sound. Have you
tried playing low notes with some of the preloaded pianos in the N? I guess
you have...
"New" program A01 (N364 Piano):
> > That is interesting. Could you say a word about what you did to it?
(This is also a reply to August Hardiman's mail - "Enhanced sound A01")
To be quite honest I don't exactly remember what I did to it, but I know
that I increased the filter cutoff frequency to reduce the muffle, and
decreased the velocity sensitivity to make it harder. Since I have an N364
with fewer keys, I also changed octave from 8' to 16' on both oscillators
to be able to play fat double bass. Hence the name "N364 Piano".
If you want to, I can mail my current PCG to both of you (August and Tore)
privatly. Then you can simply load program A01 (using 'load 1 program' in
the disk menu) and listen to it. If you think it sucks, then just load
program A01 from preload.pcg again...
If anybody else is interested in trying my program A01, mail me privatly.
> > I meant a graphical chart, since this is easier to work with while
> > sitting at the Korg. Once it works well, it can always be computerized.
> >
> > The thing is, there are dependencies between parameters, and these
> > should be clearly visible in a graphical chart if it is to be of any
> > real use. I'll think about it.
Such a chart would be very welcome!!! Having to flip pages to and forth in
the Reference Guide isn't my idea of effective programming.
Cheers!
At 01:36 1997-11-21 +0100, Leif Lund wrote:
> > I want help to be able to use differents effects on different tracks in
> > sequenser mode. When I am trying to change the effect settings for one track
> > it seems like the other 15 tracks always will be affected by this. For
> > example, if I want one track to be "dry" (still in sequenser mode), eg.
> > without any effects at all, the other tracks become dry too. How can I
> > overcome this?
For starters, there are only two physical fx processors in the N (the same
goes for the X3 and many other workstations), so you'll have to choose well
when it comes to selecting which fx settings to use. I.e. you can't have
different settings for each track, but you can have different amounts of
effect-send.
If you want to have one (or more) track(s) dry, you will first have to set
its send C/D to 0/0 (in one of the first seq edit pages). But that's often
not enough! If you're using both fx processors and have them set to serial
mode, it will be impossible to have a track 100% dry. You'll have to use
parallell3 (change this setting on page 7E in seq edit mode)! This will in
most cases not worsen the sound quality much. Though there will be a
definite problem if you try to sequence sounds like combination A00
(FirstLight), since it won't sound half as powerful with parallell3
placement. :(
I haven't tried output 3 and 4 (in the back of the N) yet, since I have no
mixer, but will do that later.
Now, don't take my word for granted when it comes to effect placement,
since I have barely read the manual. Do your own experimenting and read the
Reference Guide carefully!
Cheers!
Sorry leif. In sequencer mode, the effects affect the whole song, and you
cant separate tracks out with different effects. That would take up too much
memory for the machine. it sucks i know, but is one of the few limitations.
Sorry.
Ken
Nasar Haq wrote:
> >
> > the other ones called
> > THE BASIC GUIDE
> >
> > as the name suggests... its basic.. simple and easy to understand....
> > I learned everything from it
> > very important guide
> > in the end also has names and banks for the sounds voices and patterns
Thank you very much. No wonder I found the learning curve rather steep
when I sat down with the REFERENCE GUIDE alone. I also missed some sort
of survey of programs etc.
Tore
Hi,
I just joined the list
It is awsome
I'm from Belgium and I got my n364 in August.
About the fx in Seq. Mode:
I think it works like this: You can assign two FXs to the effect
processors. If you take a look at the 'effect placement' (screen 7
something) you can assing FXs to different tracks. Then you also have to
work on your 'Send C and Send D' and your PAN. It is all very clear if you
look at the 'reference guide'.
Then, using some controller data (3C, I think) you can turn the effects on
and off whenever you want (but not for each seperate track). Also with
controller data you can make the sounds gradually brighter or darker and
it has some other effect-like stuff you can controll, just look at the
list on page 126 of the reference guide.
Also cool is that you can assign effect controll to you controllers (like
the bender or aftertouch or the value slider) What it does is that you can
controll the AMOUNT of effect you are using. For instance, if you assing
an effect 'phaser1' to your bender, if you play a note and bring the
bender down or up (vertically, not horizontally), you can increase or
decrease the amount of phaser you want to use.
I hope this is an answer to the question. Or am i just telling old news.
ps I'd like to exchange data through the internet, yet i don't even have a
funny clue how to do this, I'm trying to find one of my friends to explain
this to me, but it is all so clear to them that they don't want to spend
time explaining it to me. If somebody has time to explain this to me,
please do. Or tell me where i can read how to do this, somewhere on the
internet. Thanks
This 'mailing list' is probably the best invention ever.
(next to 'the wheel' and 'fire' of course)
-Toon
> >
> >Sorry leif. In sequencer mode, the effects affect the whole song, and
you
> >cant separate tracks out with different effects. That would take up
too much
> >memory for the machine. it sucks i know, but is one of the few
limitations.
> > Sorry.
> >
Ken
Not exactly true...
If you're the creative sort, you can create a combi containing all of
the sounds you wish to use on 8 tracks on your seq... you can edit the
level, pans, and sends for each sound seperately....(page 41-45 in the
Reference manual) this will take some serious planning ahead of time so
you'll need to be patient... now copy the combi you've created to the
seq. using the copy from combination mode(page 153 in the ref. manual)
so now you have 8 voices in the sequencer each with their own panning
and sends(c,d) now set up your effects accordingly(see pages 59-61
effects placement in your ref. manual) Serial sub placement and parallel
placement look most promising, but others may work well depending on
your use... example..using Parallel Sub placement, send drums to the C
or D send with reverb or whatever... and a lead or guitar through A and
B with distortion... look at the pages I've mentioned and you'll get the
picture.... have fun, Jon
Disclaimer: There may be an easier way to do this, and since the N364
isn't my only board, I never rely on it to provide all of my sounds.
Your mileage may vary.
Hi kenneth
This is Nash..
I requested a change in the mailing list.
My new email is
*@*.com
This is my business email now...
my boss goes through it too..hes a meany.
Im still getting emails on this one. Would appreciate it if you could
change the address on the list
Nash
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > On 97-11-16, Steve Wallis wrote:
> >
> > DANCE.PCG B20 SineSolo squeak:
> >
>> > > I have the same exact problem with that particular program. Ive yet
> > to
>> > > delete it from the .pcg but plan to soon.
> >
> > You don't have to delete it! Just press [edit], go to page 7D and
> > decrease
> > the delay time from 800 ms to 790 ms and the squeak disappears! The
> > same
> > method works for the other few squeaking sounds in this PCG! Don't
> > forget
> > to do a [write] afterwards though, or you will (like me) have your
> > ears
> > fall off when playing a note after having switched to another program
> > and
> > back. :)
> >
> > I can send you my fixed N-specific version of DANCE.PCG as an
> > attachment in
> > a private mail if you want to.
> >
> > Anyway, I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one with this problem!
> > This
> > means that there's just a bug with the X3-to-N PCG conversion routine,
> > and
> > not a hardware error. Phew!
> >
>> > > Ive also had problems trying to sequence
>> > > them 303 type sounds. They *never* sound the same as
> > program/combination
>> > > mode for some freak reason or another. Even when i copy the effects
> > over it
>> > > looses a good 50% of the 'wah' and emulated resonance :( Have you
> > had any
>> > > luck sequencing with those programs?
> >
> > When trying program A46 (JSSaw303) and A66 (JS/SQ/303) in the
> > sequencer it
> > sounds 100% the same as in program mode, and I've tried all joystick Y
> >
> > positions. Don't forget to set the send C/D on the used track to C=PRG
> > and
> > D=PRG (seq edit page 1A). Also check that the fx placement is set to
> > serial
> > (seq edit page 7E).
> >
> > Combination A08 (St/JS 303) also sounds 100% the same in sequencer
> > mode as
> > in combi mode.
> >
> > There are cases when programs or combis sound like crap in the
> > sequencer
> > though, and that's probably because the sound mixing routine of the N
> > has
> > to homogenize the sounds to make the mix sound as good as possible.
> > This
> > involves lowering the volume (to avoid clipping).
> >
> > Cheerio!
Hi, I want to know what other users did with the arpeggio & RPPR
features in N364. For me, I just used it to impress my friend :-)
Please share your practical use of that features, maybe in live or
recording situation. Thank's
August F H Hardiman
Hello,
My name is Michel Keijzers from the Netherlands. I'm quite a while a
subscriber of this fabulous list.
I do not own a Korg N yet, but I'm planning to buy a Korg N264 within two
months. I own already a Korg X5 with great pleasure. The main reason for
buying the N264 is the 64 voice polyphony,
the 4 effect processors (2 per synth) and the 76-keys.
However, I have some questions:
- It is possible to record a pattern under a key. Is this option available
while being in Combination mode?
- Is the arpeggio available when in Combination mode ?
The reason is that I will using it a lot in live gigs and I use a
combination for almost each song, so I rely heavily on as much options as
possible available in Combination mode.
Kind regards,
Michel
> >ps I'd like to exchange data through the internet, yet i don't even have a
> >funny clue how to do this, I'm trying to find one of my friends to explain
> >this to me, but it is all so clear to them that they don't want to spend
> >time explaining it to me. If somebody has time to explain this to me,
> >please do. Or tell me where i can read how to do this, somewhere on the
> >internet. Thanks
> >
Hi, I'm Francesco,
If you want send data through the Net you have simply to use the attach
function in you e-mail program.
For example in Eudora when you write a message you can specify in the
messagge-attachments menu the name of the files you want send with the E-mail.
I hope I've helped you.
If you have any question or if you want to exchange some data or stuff for
the N364 feel free to contact me.
Bye
Francesco
Hi I'm Francesco from Italy
> >I do not own a Korg N yet, but I'm planning to buy a Korg N264 within two
> >months. I own already a Korg X5 with great pleasure. The main reason for
> >buying the N264 is the 64 voice polyphony,
> >the 4 effect processors (2 per synth) and the 76-keys.
^^^^^ I'm sorry but the N have only two effect processors
> >However, I have some questions:
> >
> >- It is possible to record a pattern under a key. Is this option available
> >while being in Combination mode?
Yes, it is possible to record an 8 measure max pattern under a key but this
options is only available in seq mode
> >- Is the arpeggio available when in Combination mode ?
Yes, the arpeggio is availble in Compination, Program and Seq mode. And live
is very cool!!!!!
Bye
Francesco
At 10:19 1997-11-21 PST, j. austin wrote:
> > If you're the creative sort, you can create a combi containing all of
> > the sounds you wish to use on 8 tracks on your seq... you can edit the
> > level, pans, and sends for each sound seperately....(page 41-45 in the
> > Reference manual) this will take some serious planning ahead of time so
> > you'll need to be patient... now copy the combi you've created to the
> > seq.
No need to do it in such a complicated manner. You can edit pan and send
C/D settings for each track in the sequencer instead. Pan settings are
edited directly in SEQ mode, and send C/D in SEQ EDIT mode (page 1A).
Read my previous mail about which fx placement settings to use.
Francesco,
Thank you for the info. About the patterns, I assume you mean that
recording needs to be done in Sequencer mode (no problem), but playing the
pattern by pressing a key can be done in Combination mode (or program
mode). At least, I hope it goes this way. And about the 4
effect processors, I meant 2 from the N264 and 2 from my X5.
Kind regards,
Michel Keijzers from the Netherlands
----------
> > From: Francesco <*@*.IT>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: Questions about options available in Cominbation Mode
> > Date: zondag 23 november 1997 14:41
> >
> > Hi I'm Francesco from Italy
> >
>> > >I do not own a Korg N yet, but I'm planning to buy a Korg N264 within
two
>> > >months. I own already a Korg X5 with great pleasure. The main reason for
>> > >buying the N264 is the 64 voice polyphony,
>> > >the 4 effect processors (2 per synth) and the 76-keys.
> > ^^^^^ I'm sorry but the N have only two effect processors
> >
>> > >However, I have some questions:
>> > >
>> > >- It is possible to record a pattern under a key. Is this option
available
>> > >while being in Combination mode?
> > Yes, it is possible to record an 8 measure max pattern under a key but
this
> > options is only available in seq mode
> >
>> > >- Is the arpeggio available when in Combination mode ?
> > Yes, the arpeggio is availble in Compination, Program and Seq mode. And
live
> > is very cool!!!!!
> >
> > Bye
> > Francesco
Hi there,
Gotta ask another dumb q . The other day I visited http://www.korg.net they have some kind of Prog and Comb for N. Are these any new stuff? They are selling some P&C too. What are they for?
Thanx
good, I hoped it was easuer than this.... good thing I don't need to use
the n364 for all the sounds I need 8p .....i'd be sitting here all day
playing with the fx.......Jon
>> >> If you're the creative sort, you can create a combi containing all of
>> >> the sounds you wish to use on 8 tracks on your seq... you can edit
the
>> >> level, pans, and sends for each sound seperately....(page 41-45 in
the
>> >> Reference manual) this will take some serious planning ahead of time
so
>> >> you'll need to be patient... now copy the combi you've created to the
>> >> seq.
> >
> >No need to do it in such a complicated manner. You can edit pan and
send
> >C/D settings for each track in the sequencer instead. Pan settings are
> >edited directly in SEQ mode, and send C/D in SEQ EDIT mode (page 1A).
> >
> >Read my previous mail about which fx placement settings to use.
> >
HI,
does anyone know how I can edit a song that was created on other synth. My friend has a Roland XP50 and I tried to play some of his normal GM songs (not using his patches) on my N but I couldn't edit them. Does anybody know how to do it? What I basically did is load his file to my N as a SMF and played them on it. Some of the tracks are fine but some tracks are playing wrong Programs. How can I fix this?
Thanx
Hasnat
> > Gotta ask another dumb q. The other day I visited http://www.korg.net they
> > have some kind of Prog and Comb for N. Are these any new stuff? They
are
> > selling some P&C too. What are they for?
I visited the site and downloaded the two files that are for the i/X/N.
Both were made several years ago, so they aren't directly for the N, but
they work. Have seen them both on other pages also.
Are you wondering what a PCG (Program-Combination-Global) file is, or what
is your question?
Have a look in the manuals if you don't know what a PCG is. Should be well
explained what it is and how to use it there.
Cheers!
> > My friend has a Roland XP50 and I tried to play some of his normal GM songs
> > (not using his patches) on my N but I couldn't edit them. Does anybody know
> > how to do it? What I basically did is load his file to my N as a SMF and
> > played them on it. Some of the tracks are fine but some tracks are playing
> > wrong Programs. How can I fix this?
You could try changing program filter to NUM in global edit page 3C. But
that will only work if it as "pure" GM file, i.e. if your friend has used
ONLY GM sounds.
Check out the part in the Basic Guide about playing GM songs.
Cheers!
Hi!
Just thought I'd let you know that the people at KORG were happy to hear
that I've started this list. I told them that they can send any news, tips,
announcements etc to me so I can forward it to everybody on the list (they
don't have the time to be members themselves)! I hope they do, so we can
keep easily updated to what's happening with our dear N!
Cheers!
Hi!
You can find some general info about this list and the server it is running
on if you enter LISTSERV's search page at
http://www.lsoft.com/lists/LIST_Q.html and search for "n-list". Could be
good to know incase you should lose all addresses to the list, since all
needed addresses are there.
Cheers!
If anyone is using the N364 with Cubase VST (Mac or PC, does not matter)
please let me know. Perhaps we can share some ideas.
GG
Hi Everyone!
OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy
laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone.
My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone...
and what format should I use....
zip files....attachments...etc?
Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and thought I
was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants these
files...and how should I send them?
At 12:08 1997-11-25 -0600, Gary Gulley wrote:
> > If anyone is using the N364 with Cubase VST (Mac or PC, does not matter)
> > please let me know. Perhaps we can share some ideas.
I am, but I haven't had the time to get deep into it yet. Sharing of ideas
are very welcome!
Hi Serf
ZIPping the disks will certainly make them smaller. For everybody to understand all files clearly, I would suggest ZIPping each disk to one ZIP file and naming the file as it is on the original disk. So basically u will hv 6 ZIP files for the 6 disks. You can mail each of the ZIP files separately or all together. But since ppl are complaining of overloading their email, mailing separately will be good. I personally dot think I hv a problem on getting 6 ZIP files on one mail. So it's up to you.
Thanx
-----Original Message-----
From: Serf [SMTP:*@*.NET]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 15:27
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: 6 disks of KORG sounds
Hi Everyone!
OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy
laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone.
My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone...
and what format should I use....
zip files....attachments...etc?
Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and thought I
was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants these
files...and how should I send them?
[Hasnat Mosharraf] I definitely want them
If you care to email all the disks to me, I'll provide ftp space for
anyone who wants them.
Steve Day
Hi Serf (and everybody else),
Are these six Korg Disks by any chance named?:
- House and Funk
- Killer Organs
- Pop Performances
- Power Disk
- Sound Alternatives
- N364 (Factory Presets)
If they are, I already have them. They're right here on my computer in one
zip file (divided into six subdirectories). The file is about 872KB. If
someone wants to put them up on a web or FTP site, I'll gladly email them
to you.
Onward through the fog.
John
(John.*@*.com)
On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 02:26:41PM -0600, Serf wrote:
> > Hi Everyone!
> > OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy
> > laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone.
> >
> > My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone...
> > and what format should I use....
> > zip files....attachments...etc?
> >
> > Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and thought I
> > was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants these
> > files...and how should I send them?
Just email them to me... attachments of zip files or whatever will be
fine. I'll put them on an ftp server somewhere.
Hi All,
Does anyone know how the N364 decides what sound it will use for the
metronome? It seems to uses different sounds depending on what programs I
load into the sequencer tracks. Can you tell it what sound to use if you
don't like the one it's using?
Onward through the fog.
John
(John.*@*.com)
Hello, all!
I am working on a web site titled: "Korg International Users Group" and
need some help from you. I am going to have a section entitled "Tips 'n
Tricks" and would love to see some of you send in your favorite! I'm not
just looking for the tough, cool stuff, but for ANY tips/tricks, no
matter how easy or difficult.
I would like to see this site as a major resource for ALL Korg users,
regardless of product. Although the only Korg products I own are the
N364, an M1, and a few old Sound Modules (I don't even use them anymore)
, I think this should include the entire Korg product line. If I play
my cards right, I may even get Korg to even sponsor it! Who knows?!
Anyway, on this site I will have a News section, a Tips and Tricks
section, a Download section (explained below!), and more!
The download section IMO will be the coolest part of this site! I will
have .SNGs, .MIDs, .PCGs, etc. here. These will hopefully be provided
by users and broken down into individual and common areas. For this
reason, I am also pleading with all of you to PLEASE send me some of
your files that you have created (or acquired) so I can use them on the
site.
If I use on of your Tips n' Tricks, I will credit you properly, and
put a link to your page(if you have one) or to your email. The same goes
for any program, combi, sng, or MIDI file you submit, IF you created it.
In other words, anything I get from you will be credited. If you didn't
create a submission, you will be credited via a "submitted by...".
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!!
I will let everyone know when the site is completed!
Thanks to everyone! Without this list, this site would not be started!
Erik Olson
John Schultz wrote....
> >Are these disks....
yes those are the disks...
The only one you don't have is Raw Drums
I'll have my brother zip that one.
(it's my favorite)
To all;
The zip file of the Korg sounds can be found at ftp.ccnet.com in
users/sad001. The name of the file is n-disks.zip. Just do an anonymous
login and get them. It's about 800K.
Thanks to John Schulz for providing them.
Steve Day
I am fairly certain now: my N364 is out of tune. Maybe some of you
could carry out these steps and tell me what you hear:
(1) Initialize a program.
(2) Set the volume to a comfortable level.
(3) Play the lowest D of your N against the highest D.
Doing this, the highest D is distinctly flat to my ears. I know that
piano octaves are sometimes "stretched" for several reasons, but I have
not heard of anything like that on synthesizers. Besides, "stretching"
the octaves would make that high D *sharp* in relation to the low D, but
it is *flat*. There is nothing in the manual that can explain this as
far as I can see.
I have noticed inaccuracies in the middle of the keyboard as well, which
is why I began looking for test cases, but there seems to be no easy way
to ascertain bad intonation between different pitch classes without the
proper apparatus. Can any of you think of a way to do this? I'd like
to be certain before I start harassing the distributor.
Tore
> > (1) Initialize a program.
> > (2) Set the volume to a comfortable level.
> > (3) Play the lowest D of your N against the highest D.
I haven't checked this yet, but a quick tip: you could have mistakenly
changed something in global edit page 2A (scale type). Should be set to
equal temp. Will check the above later...
Cheers!
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >
>> > > (1) Initialize a program.
>> > > (2) Set the volume to a comfortable level.
>> > > (3) Play the lowest D of your N against the highest D.
> >
> > I haven't checked this yet, but a quick tip: you could have mistakenly
> > changed something in global edit page 2A (scale type). Should be set to
> > equal temp. Will check the above later...
Thank you Kenneth, but the global setting is equal temp, and the user
scale is all zeros. Besides, these settings should not affect tones of
the same pitch class.
Tore
At 22:15 1997-11-26 +0100, Tore Lund wrote:
> > (1) Initialize a program.
> > (2) Set the volume to a comfortable level.
> > (3) Play the lowest D of your N against the highest D.
When Comparing D-2 and D-6 on my N364 they sound perfectly in tune. But
perhaps you have a better ear for tones than I have. Or your N has gone
haywire.
> > I have noticed inaccuracies in the middle of the keyboard as well
With an initialized program (i.e. single oscillator piano 000)? Perhaps you
are referring to the change in colour of the sound every two octaves? I
believe this is because each two (or one?) octaves uses another sampled
sound. Or perhaps it is an algorithm switch to produce the best sound
possible from a limited sound sample. The N only contains 8 MB PCM sample
ROM after all...
Besides, all samplebased synthesizers have that same problem.
Big thanks to the person who posted the N-disk's on that ftp site. Much
appreciated :)
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >
> > At 22:15 1997-11-26 +0100, Tore Lund wrote:
> >
>> > > (1) Initialize a program.
>> > > (2) Set the volume to a comfortable level.
>> > > (3) Play the lowest D of your N against the highest D.
> >
> > When Comparing D-2 and D-6 on my N364 they sound perfectly in tune. But
> > perhaps you have a better ear for tones than I have. Or your N has gone
> > haywire.
Probably the latter alternative. I am taking it the doctor tomorrow, so
we'll see what he says.
>> > > I have noticed inaccuracies in the middle of the keyboard as well
> >
> > With an initialized program (i.e. single oscillator piano 000)? Perhaps you
> > are referring to the change in colour of the sound every two octaves? > believe this is because each two (or one?) octaves uses another sampled
> > sound. Or perhaps it is an algorithm switch to produce the best sound
> > possible from a limited sound sample. The N only contains 8 MB PCM sample
> > ROM after all...
I have noticed this phenomenon, but it is the *pitch* that is all wrong.
Thanks for your comments.
Tore
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.LUTH.SE>
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
Date: Thursday, November 27, 1997 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: My N is flat
> >At 22:15 1997-11-26 +0100, Tore Lund wrote:
> >
>> >> (1) Initialize a program.
>> >> (2) Set the volume to a comfortable level.
>> >> (3) Play the lowest D of your N against the highest D.
> >
> >When Comparing D-2 and D-6 on my N364 they sound perfectly in tune. But
> >perhaps you have a better ear for tones than I have. Or your N has gone
> >haywire.
> >
>> >> I have noticed inaccuracies in the middle of the keyboard as well
> >
> >With an initialized program (i.e. single oscillator piano 000)? Perhaps you
> >are referring to the change in colour of the sound every two octaves? I
> >believe this is because each two (or one?) octaves uses another sampled
> >sound. Or perhaps it is an algorithm switch to produce the best sound
> >possible from a limited sound sample. The N only contains 8 MB PCM sample
> >ROM after all...
> >
> >Besides, all samplebased synthesizers have that same problem.
I noticed the same behaviour, but soon found out that the the piano sample
is indead multisampled. I tried the same with a bass or saw sound and did
not found any inaccuracies.
Ben
On Thu, 27 Nov 1997, Steve Wallis wrote:
> > Big thanks to the person who posted the N-disk's on that ftp site. Much
> > appreciated :)
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Steve Wallis
> > *@*.net
> >
I appreciate the thanks.
To all those on the list:
I will provide ftp space for anything you wish to store for others to
get.
If there is interest, I'll set up a write only upload directory for
things you want to upload. I'll check them and, if they're not going to
get me into trouble, I'll move them to the public directory.
Warez type stuff will be kept in the write only directory and will be
available, if the members are interested, via email.
If I provide this service, please don't overload it with a ton of
un-necessary stuff. I can keep about 75mb available for upload/download
space.
Steve Day
I would like the a Raw Drums emailed to me
----------
> > From: Serf <*@*.NET>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: 6 disks of KORG sounds
> > Date: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 3:26 PM
> >
> > Hi Everyone!
> > OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy
> > laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone.
> >
> > My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone...
> > and what format should I use....
> > zip files....attachments...etc?
> >
> > Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and thought I
> > was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants these
> > files...and how should I send them?
Okay, I'm a bit confused now with all this file swapping and stuff. is
everything being done over the net, or do I still need to send a SASE to
someone to get some disks?
Someone mentioned an ftp site... I got a file in the mail so I could put
it on ftp, does the maintainer of this ftp site already have it, or do I
send it to him? The file is:
-rw------- 1 espel users 892619 Nov 26 15:20 n-disks.zip
$ unzip -l n-disks.zip
Archive: n-disks.zip
Length Date Time Name
------ ---- ---- ----
0 11-20-97 14:37 Power Disk/
22486 11-20-97 14:40 Power Disk/X3DRUMS.SNG
69416 11-20-97 14:40 Power Disk/JACK_CV.PCG
69416 11-20-97 14:40 Power Disk/MICHE_CV.PCG
69416 11-20-97 14:40 Power Disk/SATO_CV.PCG
69416 11-20-97 14:40 Power Disk/STEVE_CV.PCG
69416 11-20-97 14:41 Power Disk/TIM_FILE.PCG
86278 11-20-97 14:41 Power Disk/TIM_FILE.SNG
69416 11-20-97 14:41 Power Disk/X3DRUMS.PCG
69416 11-20-97 14:41 Power Disk/X3P_LOAD.PCG
131590 11-20-97 14:41 Power Disk/X3P_LOAD.SNG
0 11-20-97 14:37 Killer Organs/
6358 09-21-93 08:00 Killer Organs/BACH_5DM.MID
0 11-20-97 14:42 Killer Organs/!DESKTOP.FOL/
24791 05-20-96 14:20 Killer Organs/!DESKTOP.FOL/!X3ORGAN.SPC
46363 05-20-96 14:21 Killer Organs/!DESKTOP.FOL/!X3ORGAN.SSN
69416 05-14-93 10:00 Killer Organs/X3DRUMS.PCG
22486 05-14-93 10:00 Killer Organs/X3DRUMS.SNG
69416 05-14-93 10:00 Killer Organs/X3ORGANS.PCG
67414 05-14-93 10:00 Killer Organs/X3ORGANS.SNG
69416 05-14-93 10:00 Killer Organs/X3P_LOAD.PCG
131590 05-14-93 10:00 Killer Organs/X3P_LOAD.SNG
0 11-20-97 14:37 Sound Alternatives/
69416 05-14-93 10:00 Sound Alternatives/XSD_11.PCG
0 11-20-97 14:37 House and Funk/
69416 05-14-93 10:00 House and Funk/XSD_12.PCG
0 11-20-97 14:37 Pop Performances/
69416 05-14-93 10:00 Pop Performances/XSD_13.PCG
0 11-20-97 14:37 N364/
33734 07-10-96 08:00 N364/RPPR.SNG
42085 07-15-93 18:17 N364/GMDEMO2.MID
69416 07-11-94 08:00 N364/I3CDBANK.PCG
69416 07-10-96 08:00 N364/INITIAL.PCG
2576 07-10-96 08:00 N364/INITIAL.PST
3718 07-10-96 08:00 N364/INITIAL.SNG
69416 07-10-96 08:00 N364/PRELOAD.PCG
2576 07-10-96 08:00 N364/PRELOAD.PST
123318 07-10-96 08:00 N364/PRELOAD.SNG
2576 07-10-96 08:00 N364/RPPR.PST
39717 07-15-93 17:55 N364/GMDEMO1.MID
------ -------
1900312 40
I couldn't get any of the files that were sent to me in zipped form to
work on my n364... I saved them all on separate disks, but when I try to
use them it says "no file"... what gives??? Jon
> >
> >I would like the a Raw Drums emailed to me
> >
> >----------
>> >> From: Serf <*@*.NET>
>> >> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>> >> Subject: 6 disks of KORG sounds
>> >> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 3:26 PM
>> >>
>> >> Hi Everyone!
>> >> OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy
>> >> laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone.
>> >>
>> >> My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone...
>> >> and what format should I use....
>> >> zip files....attachments...etc?
>> >>
>> >> Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and thought
I
>> >> was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants
these
>> >> files...and how should I send them?
> >
At 01.07 1997-11-29 PST, you wrote:
> >I couldn't get any of the files that were sent to me in zipped form to
> >work on my n364... I saved them all on separate disks, but when I try to
> >use them it says "no file"... what gives??? Jon
> >
> >
Well. I suppose You have copied the directories that the files, in the
zipped file, are stored in. Try to copy ONLY the files to the root directory
on the disks. Watch what happens...
Good luck!
Leif
P.S. I want to get my hands on the "Raw Drums" too... D.S.
At 15:53 1997-11-27 -0800, Steve Day wrote:
> > I will provide ftp space for anything you wish to store for others to get.
Great! Very nice! Fantastic! Brilliant! Please post additional info on how
to use this service if you decide to start it!
Cheers!
At 17:04 1997-11-28 +0100, Roger Espel Llima wrote:
> > Okay, I'm a bit confused now with all this file swapping and stuff. is
> > everything being done over the net, or do I still need to send a SASE to
> > someone to get some disks?
The archive containing the files from all extra disks except the "Raw
Drums" disk has been put on an ftp server by Steve Day. But I guess you
already noticed. :)
Cheers!
Hi Jon,
These files were mailed to u as ZIPped files. B4 u use them on the N, u need to unZIP them. and u need a program to do that. One such program is WINZIP for windows. and u can download the program for for free from
www.winzip.com
good luck
Hasnat
-----Original Message-----
From: j. austin [SMTP:*@*.COM]
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 1997 04:08
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Re: 6 disks of KORG sounds
I couldn't get any of the files that were sent to me in zipped form to
work on my n364... I saved them all on separate disks, but when I try to
use them it says "no file"... what gives??? Jon
> >
> >I would like the a Raw Drums emailed to me
> >
> >----------
>> >> From: Serf <*@*.NET>
>> >> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>> >> Subject: 6 disks of KORG sounds
>> >> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 3:26 PM
>> >>
>> >> Hi Everyone!
>> >> OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy
>> >> laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone.
>> >>
>> >> My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone...
>> >> and what format should I use....
>> >> zip files....attachments...etc?
>> >>
>> >> Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and thought
I
>> >> was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants
these
>> >> files...and how should I send them?
> >
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > The archive containing the files from all extra disks except the "Raw
> > Drums" disk has been put on an ftp server by Steve Day. But I guess you
> > already noticed. :)
> >
> > Cheers!
And, if someone wishes to provide that disk, I'll put it there as well.
Steve
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > At 15:53 1997-11-27 -0800, Steve Day wrote:
> >
>> > > I will provide ftp space for anything you wish to store for others to get.
> >
> > Great! Very nice! Fantastic! Brilliant! Please post additional info on how
> > to use this service if you decide to start it!
> >
> > Cheers!
It's ready to go. Just do an anonymous ftp to ftp.ccnet.com and change
to users/sad001 to download files. There's an upload directory that you
can change to but you won't be able to see what's in it. If I have set the
permissions correctly you should be able to place new files there. I will
check them out and then move them to the download dir if they are not
commercial files. We'll have to discuss the handling of these types of
files amongst ourselves. I will not make them publically available.
Steve
uhh... yea i used winzip to unzip them... then copied them to disks.. i
saw the .pcg, sng. files copy to each disk, and in windows they are
there... on my n364 however, it says... "no file" thanks anyways.. Jon
> >
> >Hi Jon,
> >
> >
> >These files were mailed to u as ZIPped files. B4 u use them on the N,
=
> >u need to unZIP them. and u need a program to do that. One such =
> >program is WINZIP for windows. and u can download the program for for
=
> >free from
> >www.winzip.com
> >
> >good luck
> >Hasnat
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: j. austin [SMTP:*@*.COM]
> >Sent: Saturday, November 29, 1997 04:08
> >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> >Subject: Re: 6 disks of KORG sounds
> >
> >I couldn't get any of the files that were sent to me in zipped form to
> >work on my n364... I saved them all on separate disks, but when I try
to
> >use them it says "no file"... what gives??? Jon
> >
> >
>> >>
>> >>I would like the a Raw Drums emailed to me
>> >>
>> >>----------
>>> >>> From: Serf <*@*.NET>
>>> >>> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>>> >>> Subject: 6 disks of KORG sounds
>>> >>> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 3:26 PM
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Everyone!
>>> >>> OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy
>>> >>> laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone...
>>> >>> and what format should I use....
>>> >>> zip files....attachments...etc?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and
thought
> >I
>>> >>> was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants
> >these
>>> >>> files...and how should I send them?
>> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >uhh... yea i used winzip to unzip them... then copied them to disks.. i
> >saw the .pcg, sng. files copy to each disk, and in windows they are
> >there... on my n364 however, it says... "no file" thanks anyways.. Jon
> >
> >
Oh, I forgot to ask.... Do I need to format the disk in my Korg before I
copy the files onto the disk from my pc??? I guess I should try this
and see if its the problem.... thanks, Jon
At 03:06 2-12-97 PST, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >>uhh... yea i used winzip to unzip them... then copied them to disks.. i
>> >>saw the .pcg, sng. files copy to each disk, and in windows they are
>> >>there... on my n364 however, it says... "no file" thanks anyways.. Jon
> >Oh, I forgot to ask.... Do I need to format the disk in my Korg before I
> >copy the files onto the disk from my pc??? I guess I should try this
> >and see if its the problem.... thanks, Jon
nope, you can have a dos formatted disk and copy all the stuff on it in
the root (without the directories).
But how do you try to load the disk, if you try a load all it won't work
on mosts disks because some files just don't exists and you get an error,
like the no file...
Better try loading the pcg's/songs seperate.
Hero Idema
*@*.net
Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services
*@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl
+31-(0)79-* *@*.net
"rm -rf /" is the key to problem solving on unix machines
>> >>Oh, I forgot to ask.... Do I need to format the disk in my Korg before
I
>> >>copy the files onto the disk from my pc??? I guess I should try this
>> >>and see if its the problem.... thanks, Jon
> >
> >nope, you can have a dos formatted disk and copy all the stuff on it in
> >the root (without the directories).
> >But how do you try to load the disk, if you try a load all it won't
work
> >on mosts disks because some files just don't exists and you get an
error,
> >like the no file...
> >Better try loading the pcg's/songs seperate.
> >
> >Hero Idema
> >*@*.net
> >
oK, i'LL give that a try.....thanks... any other ideas anyone??? Jon
sorry I misread this the first time... I tried loading them seperately,
and all at once.. same effect... on a related note.. I downloaded the
"dance" sounds from a page and they weren't zipped, and they work
fine... hmmmmmmm.. any more ideas? Jon
> >nope, you can have a dos formatted disk and copy all the stuff on it in
> >the root (without the directories).
> >But how do you try to load the disk, if you try a load all it won't
work
> >on mosts disks because some files just don't exists and you get an
error,
> >like the no file...
> >Better try loading the pcg's/songs seperate.
> >
> >Hero Idema
> >*@*.net
> >
> > Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services
> > *@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl
> > +31-(0)79-* *@*.net
> > "rm -rf /" is the key to problem solving on unix machines
> >
Here's a reply from a happy new N264 owner. (was going for a XP-80 :( but
neeeh, The N is much better. Brought back some memories of my old and sold
DW8000).
You can use load all, but because there are no pattern files (RPPS etc.) on
the X3 or simular the N will say at the end of the file load "no file". The
.PCG and .SNG data is however loaded and better yet, present in your synth.
Just hit START/STOP and listen to the songs or play the sounds from bank A
or B.
Ben
> >uhh... yea i used winzip to unzip them... then copied them to disks.. i
> >saw the .pcg, sng. files copy to each disk, and in windows they are
> >there... on my n364 however, it says... "no file" thanks anyways.. Jon
> >
> >
>> >>
>> >>Hi Jon,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>These files were mailed to u as ZIPped files. B4 u use them on the N,
> >=
>> >>u need to unZIP them. and u need a program to do that. One such =
>> >>program is WINZIP for windows. and u can download the program for for
> >=
>> >>free from
>> >>www.winzip.com
>> >>
>> >>good luck
>> >>Hasnat
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: j. austin [SMTP:*@*.COM]
>> >>Sent: Saturday, November 29, 1997 04:08
>> >>To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>> >>Subject: Re: 6 disks of KORG sounds
>> >>
>> >>I couldn't get any of the files that were sent to me in zipped form to
>> >>work on my n364... I saved them all on separate disks, but when I try
> >to
>> >>use them it says "no file"... what gives??? Jon
>> >>
>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>I would like the a Raw Drums emailed to me
>>> >>>
>>> >>>----------
>>>> >>>> From: Serf <*@*.NET>
>>>> >>>> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>>>> >>>> Subject: 6 disks of KORG sounds
>>>> >>>> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 3:26 PM
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Hi Everyone!
>>>> >>>> OK...My brother will be in town this weekend with his fancy-schmancy
>>>> >>>> laptop, and we will be able to send the files to someone/ everyone.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> My question....who wants to post the info at a site for everyone...
>>>> >>>> and what format should I use....
>>>> >>>> zip files....attachments...etc?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Last time I mentioned this....a lot of people freaked out and
> >thought
>> >>I
>>>> >>>> was going to break their e mail....so just lemme know....who wants
>> >>these
>>>> >>>> files...and how should I send them?
>>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
> >
> >
> >
is there a page with progs to download (free!)for N364
i'm new in this list and i want to coperate with yours
visit my page
http://araucaria.cec.uchile.cl/~malatorr
i have more than 1000 midis
At 19:37 1997-12-02 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
> > is there a page with progs to download (free!)for N364
There is probably no such page, since there are no finished programs for
the N around yet. Atleast as far as I know.
Work is however in progress by some of the members of this list to develop
N-specific programs. As soon as there is a finished version of one of their
programs you will all be notified!
Also, the developers of the program Unisyn are searching for people who
want to beta-test and contribute to their new N-specific part, but it seems
like you have to be a registered user of Unisyn first. :(
Cheers!
> > does anyone know how I can edit a song that was created on other
> > synth. My friend has a Roland XP50 and I tried to play some of his
> > normal GM songs (not using his patches) on my N but I couldn't edit
> > them. Does anybody know how to do it? What I basically did is load
> > his file to my N as a SMF and played them on it. Some of the tracks
> > are fine but some tracks are playing wrong Programs. How can I fix
> > this?
How do you edit the program settings in a song? This also applies if you
load in a MIDI file, and then want to change some of the settings. This
is what I found out:
1. Get into the sequencer mode and select the song you have loaded.
2. Push the 'track' button
3. Using the Yes/No buttons select the track you wish to change.
The display shows, as an example:
A61: Full Pipes
TR01 A61 120 CNT
4. Press the right arrow key to go to the program number A61/ A61
should now be flashing.
5. Press 'Rec/Write'
6. Change the program number to the one you want with the Yes/No
buttons
or the slider,
7. Press 'Rec/Write' Your change has now been made.
8. Press 'start/stop' to hear the effect of your change
Cheers
hi ppl
does KORG has an ONLINE help site or something, at least an EMAIL support thing?
> >Also, the developers of the program Unisyn are searching for people who
> >want to beta-test and contribute to their new N-specific part, but it seems
> >like you have to be a registered user of Unisyn first. :(
> >
> >Cheers!
The new N-specific parts!!! What is that? Don´t tell me the Korg people are
updating the N364 synths software inside? If it is true I am the first who
wants to know about the changes compared to the old program or have I
misunderstood the whole thing? I assume it´s a price tag to it too?
Leif
At 21:59 1997-12-03 -0500, Hasnat Mosharraf wrote:
> > does KORG has an ONLINE help site or something, at least an EMAIL
support
> > thing?
Email: *@*.com
WWW: www.korg.com (not a help page though)
Have you got questions that can't be answered by this list? ;)
While searching the web i came across an X3 site that has some amazing
programs on it. Some of them of dupes of whats already out there on other
x3 and N364 sites but most are not. For some quality pcg's goto:
http://members.tor.shaw.wave.ca/%7Emarkr/korg.html
Check out the KNP_VOL1.PCG and KNP_VOL5.PCG (very high quality)
(.SNG and .PCG)
http://araucaria.cec.uchile.cl/~malatorr/korg.html
go here to know it:
http://ganymede.jan.com/~john/n364page.html
then click on THE BULLETIN BOARD
good luck!
People,
I will propose this news group in alt.config if I can get enough
support from people on this list. There are certain individuals in
alt.config that are on little power trips and I have done my best to piss
them off.
They can't stop me from creating this group nor can they remove it once
I have created it. What I ask is for all those interested in seeing this
group come into existance is to subscribe to alt.config and support me on
the proposal. I expect to get flack from "felonyphil" (Phil Oliver) and
"bedwarm" (Bobby Tendinitis) both of whom are total jerks.
Steve Day
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.LUTH.SE]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 1997 17:33
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: KORG support address
At 21:59 1997-12-03 -0500, Hasnat Mosharraf wrote:
> > does KORG has an ONLINE help site or something, at least an EMAIL
support
> > thing?
Email: *@*.com
WWW: www.korg.com (not a help page though)
Have you got questions that can't be answered by this list? ;)
[Hasnat Mosharraf] It's not that. I just wanted know if there is any helpline out there on the net from KORG :)
hi guys
I need to know something. I am in Canada and over here all electrical outlets are 110V 50hz. I am thinking of going to Asia for a while and thinking of taking the N with me. Over there I know they run on 220V and 60Hz. I saw somewhere that says N needs 12W and can run on 50/60Hz and AC local voltage. Does that 'local voltage' means I can run it whereever I am on this planet? as long as it 50/60 hz?
See I don't think I am in a mood to plug my N into a 220V outlet and blow it up. So if u guys can help I will appreciate.
Thanx
Hasnat
Hasnat Mosharraf wrote:
> >
> > hi guys
> >
> > I need to know something. I am in Canada and over here all electrical outlets are 110V 50hz. I am thinking of going to Asia for a while and thinking of taking the N with me. Over there I know they run on 220V and 60Hz. I saw somewhere that says N needs 12W and can run on 50/60Hz and AC local voltage. Does that 'local voltage' means I can run it whereever I am on this planet? as long as it 50/60 hz?
> > See I don't think I am in a mood to plug my N into a 220V outlet and blow it up. So if u guys can help I will appreciate.
> >
> > Thanx
> > Hasnat
I live in Australia. The voltage here is 240V 50Hz, similar to SE Asia,
apart from Japan, China, and I think Thailand.
My N364 is clearly labeled 240V 50-60Hz. So my guess is that the machine
does not have a universal power supply. I would not plug yours into
anything other than 110V unless you get clear indication that it can
support any voltage.
Peter
>> >> I need to know something. I am in Canada and over here all electrical
outlets are 110V 50hz. I am thinking of going to Asia for a while and
thinking of taking the N with me. Over there I know they run on 220V and
60Hz. I saw somewhere that says N needs 12W and can run on 50/60Hz and AC
local voltage. Does that 'local voltage' means I can run it whereever I am
on this planet? as long as it 50/60 hz?
>> >> See I don't think I am in a mood to plug my N into a 220V outlet and blow
it up. So if u guys can help I will appreciate.
> >I live in Australia. The voltage here is 240V 50Hz, similar to SE Asia,
> >apart from Japan, China, and I think Thailand.
> >
> >My N364 is clearly labeled 240V 50-60Hz. So my guess is that the machine
> >does not have a universal power supply. I would not plug yours into
> >anything other than 110V unless you get clear indication that it can
> >support any voltage.
This is true. The N364 for the Canadian trade are different from the
Europeean or Asian Korg's.
If you want to use your N in Asia you have to use an adapter called 'variac'
(I hope that the name is similar also in English) that reduce the 220 V to
110 V. You don't have to worry about the Hz of the current supply. I know it
'cause the boy that play the bass in my band use it to play with a Fx
processor bought in America also here in Italy.
I hope I've helped you
bye
Francesco
P.s. Sorry for my English...
Hasnat Mosharraf wrote:
> >
> > What's a patch editor? what does it do?
> >
> > Thanx
> > Hasna
> >
Hi, patch editor is a software that allows user to load and store
patches and bank of patches ( program & combi in N364 ) and edit the
parameters. So you don't need to touch even a single button of your
keyboard when you want to edit the sounds.
Right now, I think there is no spesific N364 editor available, but I
heard that some people are working on it...must be patient. ( to all of
you, programmers of N364 editor, don't forget to notify this mailing
list if there's one ready )
Hope it helps,
August F H Hardiman
w/ big thanks to Hero Idema & Kenneth Jonsson for making this mailing
list...
Hi!
Does any of you have cakewalk instrument definition for the N364? I
accidentally deleted my own, and in the Cakewalk version i am currently
using, I am not allowed to make my own .ins files!
Can anybody help me out?
Ole
*@*.no
At 21:25 1997-12-08 +0100, Ole Magnus Marksten wrote:
> > Does any of you have cakewalk instrument definition for the N364?
Yes! Will send it to you privatly. Is anybody else also interested?
To all N-list members:
Please try to write your postings/replies so they are readable. When you
reply, try to remove text that aren't needed. Some of the postings on this
list have been very hard to read.
Sorry for complaining, but I'm just trying to make it easier for everybody
on the list to read the mails that are posted...
Cheers!
At 01:18 1997-12-09 +0700, August F H Hardiman wrote:
> > Right now, I think there is no spesific N364 editor available, but I
> > heard that some people are working on it...must be patient. ( to all of
> > you, programmers of N364 editor, don't forget to notify this mailing
> > list if there's one ready )
Everybody will be notified as soon as there is a functional beta version
out. Will probably take a while though. As said above, be patient, and time
will show.
At 22:29 1997-12-04 +0100, Leif Lund wrote:
Unisyn:
> > The new N-specific parts!!! What is that? Don´t tell me the Korg people are
> > updating the N364 synths software inside? If it is true I am the first who
> > wants to know about the changes compared to the old program or have I
> > misunderstood the whole thing? I assume it´s a price tag to it too?
You misunderstood it alright. :)
I suppose I wasn't very clear on what I meant. Unisyn is a general
synthesizer librarian/something/etc and the programmers want to include
support for the KORG N-series. You have to be a registered user of Unisyn
to become a beta tester though.
At 00:39 9-12-97 +0100, you wrote:
> >At 21:25 1997-12-08 +0100, Ole Magnus Marksten wrote:
>> >> Does any of you have cakewalk instrument definition for the N364?
> >
> >Yes! Will send it to you privatly. Is anybody else also interested?
> >
Yes, I am !
Could you please send it to me ? (as attachment)
Thanks in advance !
Fedde Bouwman
Holland
At 12:37 1997-12-05 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
> > http://ganymede.jan.com/~john/n364page.html
The address ganymede.jan.com doesn't seem to have a DNS entry? Did you
perhaps misspell it?
Cheers!
sorry i have made a big mistake ===>
http://ganymede.jtan.com/~john/n364page.htm
On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > At 12:37 1997-12-05 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
>> > > http://ganymede.jan.com/~john/n364page.html
> >
> > The address ganymede.jan.com doesn't seem to have a DNS entry? Did you
> > perhaps misspell it?
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Could you please send it to me ? (as attachment)
Coming right up!
Deleted: KorgN364.ins
An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were:
Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="KorgN364.ins"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="KorgN364.ins"
Attachments:
Deleted: KorgN364.ins 253 bytes
People,
Please ignore any returned messages from me that request "rabbit" in
the subject line.
I am being subjected to mailbombing by some idiot and I have installed
software to block it. Unfortunately it's having a problem with this list
because the list goes to N-LIST rather than being from N-LIST.
As mail is received, I am adding the name of any person who has gotten
a rabbit to to my accpet list and that will take care of it. I'm working
with the author of the software to get a permanent fix.
Sorry for the inconvience.
Steve Day
At 16:50 1997-12-09 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
> > sorry i have made a big mistake ===>
> >
> > http://ganymede.jtan.com/~john/n364page.htm
Now, /~john/n364page.htm doesn't seem to exist?
Are you perhaps referring to http://www.jtan.com/~john/ ??
At 02:53 1997-12-05 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
> > For some quality pcg's goto:
> > http://members.tor.shaw.wave.ca/%7Emarkr/korg.html
Thanks for the tip! There are infact a good bunch of PCGs (especially the
zipped ones). Have found a couple of nice sounds!
Hello people,
currently we have some problems with our mail server on which the listserver
is running. This will cause some delay in the deliverance of some mail
or could even bounce some mail. We are working very hard to get this thing
running normally again.
Just wanted to inform you of this.
Greetings,
Hero Idema
Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services
*@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl
+31-(0)79-* *@*.net
"rm -rf /" is the key to problem solving on unix machines
try this:
http://www.kd3bj.ampr.org/~john/n364page.html
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > At 16:50 1997-12-09 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
>> > > sorry i have made a big mistake ===>
>> > >
>> > > http://ganymede.jtan.com/~john/n364page.htm
> >
> > Now, /~john/n364page.htm doesn't seem to exist?
> >
> > Are you perhaps referring to http://www.jtan.com/~john/ ??
Hello!
I started composing N-specific music using a computer sequencer (a Cubase
derivative on my PC) for the first time two days ago, and thought I'd share
two important tips I found usable:
To put the N in seq-mode and on song 9, create a General MIDI reset message
as the following SysEx code:
F0,7E,7F,09,01,F7
and have it sent a short while before any notes are played. Perhaps there
is a way to let the sequencer do this automatically at start-up?
Another tip, usable if you have an "audio"-capable (i.e. sample-capable)
sequencer:
If you want to sequence programs/combis that use FX settings very different
from the settings you want to use in the N-sequencer, then do like this:
1. Compose the song using the same FX settings in seq-mode.
2. Play each track which has to use different FX settings separately (while
having the N in prog or combi mode) and at the same time record the N
output as audio.
3. Replace the midi track(s) with the new audio track(s) respectively.
Atleast this method works fine for me. Now it's possible to play program
A04 (MonsterWah) using the value slider (to create massive wah) and use it
in your songs without affecting the FX settings for the other progs/combis!
The same goes for all the other sounds with extra-terrestrial FX settings. :)
The catch? Each minute of 44.1 kHz 16-bit sampled stereo audio uses about
10 MB of storage space. And a soundcard with low noise is preferable.
can i send my own works to the n-list ?
At 12:59 15-12-97 -0300, you wrote:
> >can i send my own works to the n-list ?
I don't mind sending them to the list, dunno about the rest of you people...
But if you do, please send them compressed with zip or something like that...
that will reduce download times for people with modems.. .(like me)... :)
Hero
LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
> >
> > can i send my own works to the n-list ?
I am currently working on a web site that will have a section for users
works. If you would like your songs available there, please let me know.
You may email me the song at:
*@*.com
I expect this site to be up soon after the holidays.
If anyone else has songs they would like to appear, please send them to
me. I am also looking for tips & tricks you have.
Thank you all!
Erik
At 10:41 1997-12-15 -0600, Erik Olson wrote:
> > I am currently working on a web site that will have a section for users
> > works. If you would like your songs available there, please let me know.
> >
> > If anyone else has songs they would like to appear, please send them to
> > me. I am also looking for tips & tricks you have.
You may use any tip/trick posted here directly on your page if you like. I
might go through all mails since June '97 when this list was first started
and create a kind of a FAQ, but I can't promise anything...
Oh, and I'll send you a midi/.sng if I eventually manage to finish a song
or two. :)
At 12:59 1997-12-15 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
> > can i send my own works to the n-list ?
Please do!
This goes for everybody else too! Any N-specific music is welcome (well,
any of your not-so-very-N-specific midi files too :) )!!
But, as said before, please pack with zip first (if possible).
Is anyone on the N-list using Freestyle by MOTU to drive their N364. I am
looking for an instrument definition that will work for this synth.
Thanks,
Rich
At 12:59 15-12-97 -0300, you wrote:
> >can i send my own works to the n-list ?
I have a direct connection to internet ( T1 ), so I won't complain if you
send some
attachments... (and I think nobody will, as long as the files are
kept small)
Personally I am looking for some cool RPPR patterns, does anybody have them ?
By the way, is the N264 fully compatible with the X3 ?
So can I use P/C/G files from the X3 ?
(I have heard that some banks (B,C and D ?) of the N-series are from the
X-series...)
Fedde Bouwman
Hi,
Since two weeks I am the owner of a N264 and I have a X5 for several years.
You are right, the C/D banks are equally to the X5 and probably also to the
X5.
The A and B banks of the N264 use some specific N264 waveforms, while the
C/D banks are using only X5/X3 banks.
This means, the three synths are compatible, although some waveforms will
only 'run' on the N264 (or X5D, the expanded version of the X5).
It is possible to copy banks between the X5, X3 and N264. There are also
conversion
programs from 01W/FD <-> X5, X3, N264.
(By the way, are you Dutch ? I am).
Greetings,
Michel
----------
> > From: Fedde Bouwman <f.s.*@*.UTWENTE.NL>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: sending .sng to n-list
> > Date: maandag 15 december 1997 22:56
> >
> > At 12:59 15-12-97 -0300, you wrote:
>> > >can i send my own works to the n-list ?
> >
> > I have a direct connection to internet ( T1 ), so I won't complain if you
> > send some
> > attachments... (and I think nobody will, as long as the files are
> > kept small)
> >
> > Personally I am looking for some cool RPPR patterns, does anybody have
them ?
> >
> > By the way, is the N264 fully compatible with the X3 ?
> > So can I use P/C/G files from the X3 ?
> > (I have heard that some banks (B,C and D ?) of the N-series are from the
> > X-series...)
> >
> > Fedde Bouwman
At 22:56 1997-12-15 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
> > By the way, is the N264 fully compatible with the X3 ?
I think so.
> > So can I use P/C/G files from the X3 ?
Yes. Works perfectly well, except for some cases where the fx generators
get spooked (as with B20 Sine Solo in Dance.PCG). But it can be fixed
easily by changing a parameter or two.
Cheers!
To all N-list members, especially the new ones:
You can get monthly logs of ALL mails that have passed through this list
(since it was moved to this server) by sending a few commands to the
LISTSERV address. Here's how to do it:
1. Write a mail with the words "index n-list" (no subject needed). Send it to
"*@*.syntegra.net".
2. You'll receive a mail containing an index of all available logs.
Example:
rec
filename filetype GET PUT -fm lrecl nrecs date time
-------- -------- --- --- --- ----- ----- ---------- --------
N-LIST LOG9710 LOG OWN V 77 260 1997-10-16 20:50:33
N-LIST LOG9711 LOG OWN V 145 2597 1997-11-29 17:20:38
3. Write a mail with the words "get n-list [LOG-FILE]", where you substitute
"[LOG-FILE]" with one of the logs below "filetype" in the index mail (see
the above example). Send it to "*@*.syntegra.net".
Example:
get n-list log9710
get n-list log9711
This orders log9710 and log9711, i.e. the logs for October and November
1997. As you see you can order more than one log at a time.
4. You'll receive the log(s) as separate emails.
5. Read them and be happy. :)
Regards,
Kenneth Jonsson - N-list maintainer
At 00:12 16-12-97 +0100, you wrote:
>> >> So can I use P/C/G files from the X3 ?
> >
> >Yes. Works perfectly well, except for some cases where the fx generators
> >get spooked (as with B20 Sine Solo in Dance.PCG). But it can be fixed
> >easily by changing a parameter or two.
> >
Cool !
But what do you mean with spooked fx generators ? Are the parameters of the
fx generator swapped ?
BTW: I bought my N264 last friday, so I still haven't heard all (936 !)
internal sounds. But it's always nice to know that there are a lot more
sounds...
I must say that I love the programs/combis of the N264. Particulary the
space/ambient sounds,
the Rock Piano (!), and the organs. (although I think that the rotary
speaker from my Yamaha TG-300 sounds better for some reason, maybe a matter
of setting parameters)
I found some .PCG files for the N264 on one of the websites mentioned in
earlier mailings. (thanx !)
I haven't had time to try them but I am wondering: can those programs sound
completely different than the original programs ? (as the original programs
sport almost all sounds you would expect from a synthesizer and other
programs will use the same multisounds)
BTW 2: are the multisounds in 22 khz ? (16 bit ?)
If I compare my N264 with the Roland XP-50 (from a friend), I find that the
sounds of the XP-50 are more clear (more high frequencies). But the sounds
of the Korg are much fatter, so I like the Korg more :-)
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
Student Electrical Engineering :-)
Holland
hello everybody!
it's my first time (in this and in any list) and i hope we'll have a good
relationship from now on.
Does anybody know how can i get the drum patterns for my n364? my keyboard
came with all the programs, combinations and demo songs, but i think without
the patterns (maybe im doing something wrong?).
well, hope to hear from you soon and please let me know if i make some
mistake in using the list.
beny
yes, you just got to put in yahoo X3 and you`ll find lots of nice .sng and
.pcg for X3 compatible with N-
On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
> > At 12:59 15-12-97 -0300, you wrote:
>> > >can i send my own works to the n-list ?
> >
> > I have a direct connection to internet ( T1 ), so I won't complain if you
> > send some
> > attachments... (and I think nobody will, as long as the files are
> > kept small)
> >
> > Personally I am looking for some cool RPPR patterns, does anybody have them ?
> >
> > By the way, is the N264 fully compatible with the X3 ?
> > So can I use P/C/G files from the X3 ?
> > (I have heard that some banks (B,C and D ?) of the N-series are from the
> > X-series...)
> >
> > Fedde Bouwman
> >
I am a future informatic ingenier and i like really much to compose song
in my keybord in i think if you like really good music you will enjoy
these ones...
What you got to do:
1- first you got to use pkunzip free.zip (my file in attachment place)
2-you have to load all in your n-synth
3- press start and fly just ten minutes of music from the galaxy
4- send my your comments and i`ll be happy because i don`t have any other
form to make people to lisent my works.
I think music would must to be free in the world because music is the only
way to get the peace and union between human race
(i speak very difficult english, excuse me! music will be our lenguage)
Mariano Latorre Aracena
Santiago de Chile, Sudamerica
On Tue, Dec 16, 1997 at 01:49:06PM -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
> > 1- first you got to use pkunzip free.zip (my file in attachment place)
We'd have listened, but you forgot to send the attachment...
if you hear these ones please send comments!
Deleted: free.zip
An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were:
Content-Type: APPLICATION/ZIP; name="free.zip"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64
Content-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.971216185658.*@*>
Content-Description:
Attachments:
Deleted: free.zip 263 bytes
in my keybord in i think if you like really good music you will enjoy
these ones...
What you got to do:
1- first you got to use pkunzip free.zip (my file in attachment place)
2-you have to load all in your n-synth
3- press start and fly just ten minutes of music from the galaxy
4- send my your comments and i`ll be happy because i don`t have any other
form to make people to lisent my works.
I think music would must to be free in the world because music is the only
way to get the peace and union between human race
(i speak very difficult english, excuse me! music will be our lenguage)
Mariano Latorre Aracena
Santiago de Chile, Sudamerica
Attachments:
free.zip 49,8 KB
i can send it again ...
mariano latorre
santiago de chile sudamerica
remember X and some i series are compatible with N-series!
====>>> http://araucaria.cec.uchile.cl/~malatorr/korg.html
At 02:11 1997-12-16 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
>> >> fx generators get spooked (as with B20 Sine Solo in Dance.PCG)
> >
> > But what do you mean with spooked fx generators ? Are the parameters of the
> > fx generator swapped ?
You'll hear a loud TWEEEEEEEET when you try to play that particular
program. This seems to be because one of the generators starts feeding
itself back for some odd reason. It is fixed by changing a delay time
parameter from 800 ms to something else. Must be an error in the X3-to-N
PCG file format converter...
> > I haven't had time to try them but I am wondering: can those programs sound
> > completely different than the original programs?
Yes. Eventhough most (?) samples are used in the preloaded sounds you can
still combine them in about 200.000 different ways when in program mode.
When creating crazy techno sounds this is most evident. :)
Though the majority of the programs in most PCGs sound a bit the same, but
that's not just because the samples are the same. The programmers have
probably been inspired by one another without knowing it, or they have
borrowed sounds from other PCGs and changed them a little.
> > BTW 2: are the multisounds in 22 khz ? (16 bit ?)
No clue, but it would be interesting to know. 8 MB ROM isn't very much, but
on the other hand most samples have very short (but indeed perfect) loops,
so it's not obvious how to calculate the quality. 22 kHz 16-bit mono is
probably a good guess. It could infact be 8-bit.
I went through some of the multisounds and discovered that probably a third
or more don't have an own dedicated sample though. E.g. [sound] and
[sound.LP] probably uses the same sample but with different offsets (the LP
version has no distinct attack, probably because the start of the sample is
skipped).
> > But the sounds of the Korg are much fatter, so I like the Korg more :-)
Yes, KORG's synthesizing process is rather nice. Most samples would
probably sound like crap without it... :D
Cheers!
At 18:58 1997-12-16 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
> > I am a future informatic ingenier and i like really much to compose song
> > in my keybord in i think if you like really good music you will enjoy
> > these ones...
I definately enjoyed these songs! Thanks a lot for mailing them!!
My favourite is song 2 - "LUNA-moon". The other two are also nice.
I'll take the liberty to upload "free.zip" to ftp.ccnet.com (provided by
Steve Day) if nobody else has already done this. This will make it possible
to download it from:
ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001
as soon as Steve has moved it to that directory. Put this address in your
web-browser bookmarks (be it Netscape Navigator, Internet Explorer or any
other browser that supports ftp). Or use your favourite FTP program.
Cheers!
A question:
I have different sets of sound in some .pcg files. Now, I also need to put
some of the sounds from different files together. An example could be if the
"bluesharp" on blues.pcg probably would sound marvelous with the "bestorgan"
on organs.pcg. How do I put them on the same file, for example favorite.pcg?
An answer to this will be very welcome
Leif
At 11:52 18-12-97 +0100, you wrote:
> >A question:
> >
> >I have different sets of sound in some .pcg files. Now, I also need to put
> >some of the sounds from different files together. An example could be if the
> >"bluesharp" on blues.pcg probably would sound marvelous with the "bestorgan"
> >on organs.pcg. How do I put them on the same file, for example favorite.pcg?
> >
> >An answer to this will be very welcome
> >
Load the pcg where that sound is in, save 1 sound (the sound you want...),
load the other pcg and load the 1 sound you just saved...
I never tried it, but it should be working...
Hero
Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services
*@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl
+31-(0)79-* *@*.net
"rm -rf /" is the key to problem solving on unix machines
On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > At 18:58 1997-12-16 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
> >
>> > > I am a future informatic ingenier and i like really much to compose song
>> > > in my keybord in i think if you like really good music you will enjoy
>> > > these ones...
> >
> > I definately enjoyed these songs! Thanks a lot for mailing them!!
thank you!
> >
> > My favourite is song 2 - "LUNA-moon". The other two are also nice.
this is the last i compose (one week ago)
I hear it all the time at max volume level!!!
> >
> > I'll take the liberty to upload "free.zip" to ftp.ccnet.com (provided by
> > Steve Day) if nobody else has already done this. This will make it possible
> > to download it from:
> >
> > ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001
ok. but how can people download my file?, wath would they got to do?
download n-disks.zip file?
> >
> > as soon as Steve has moved it to that directory. Put this address in your
> > web-browser bookmarks (be it Netscape Navigator, Internet Explorer or any
> > other browser that supports ftp). Or use your favourite FTP program.
> >
> > Cheers!
At 12:09 1997-12-18 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
>> > > I'll take the liberty to upload "free.zip" to ftp.ccnet.com (provided by
>> > > Steve Day) if nobody else has already done this.
> >
> > ok. but how can people download my file?, wath would they got to do?
> > download n-disks.zip file?
No. I've uploaded the file "free.zip" you mailed. Therefore it can be
downloaded under the same name (and size) as soon as Steve has put it into
the download directory. Anybody with a modern webbrowser should be able to
download the file as soon as it's made available by typing:
ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
into the URL field of their browsers.
>> > >I have different sets of sound in some .pcg files. Now, I also need to put
>> > >some of the sounds from different files together. An example could be if
the
>> > >"bluesharp" on blues.pcg probably would sound marvelous with the
"bestorgan"
>> > >on organs.pcg. How do I put them on the same file, for example
favorite.pcg?
> >
> > Load the pcg where that sound is in, save 1 sound (the sound you want...),
> > load the other pcg and load the 1 sound you just saved...
Either do this, or get your hands on a sound librarian for the X3 (there
are some around for both Mac and Windows-PC). Many PCGs around are
originally for the X3 so it should work well.
Or you can wait a while and there might be a librarian especially for the
N. As I've said before, work is being done on this.
At 11:52 AM 12/18/97 +0100, you wrote:
> >A question:
> >
> >I have different sets of sound in some .pcg files. Now, I also need to put
> >some of the sounds from different files together. An example could be if the
> >"bluesharp" on blues.pcg probably would sound marvelous with the "bestorgan"
> >on organs.pcg. How do I put them on the same file, for example favorite.pcg?
> >
> >An answer to this will be very welcome
> >
> >Leif
> >
You can manually save individual programs and combinations using your n364 tho
this really is time consuming. You best bet is grab xedit (x3 editor). Most
functions are crippled(in the shareware version) but the librarian is
totally intact so you can endessly costimize your .pcg files.
regards,
Steve Wallis
On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > At 12:09 1997-12-18 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
> >
>>> > > > I'll take the liberty to upload "free.zip" to ftp.ccnet.com (provided by
>>> > > > Steve Day) if nobody else has already done this.
>> > >
>> > > ok. but how can people download my file?, wath would they got to do?
>> > > download n-disks.zip file?
> >
> > No. I've uploaded the file "free.zip" you mailed. Therefore it can be
> > downloaded under the same name (and size) as soon as Steve has put it into
> > the download directory. Anybody with a modern webbrowser should be able to
> > download the file as soon as it's made available by typing:
> >
> > ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
I put it as "songs1.zip". There is a text file in the zip and in the
directory that show the contents. I thought it would be better to identify
it as containing songs and to establish a pattern for all files containing
music for future uploads.
If this is not suitable, please let me know and I'll follow what the
majority wants.
Merry Christmas.
Steve
At 12:41 1997-12-19 -0800, Steve Day wrote:
Free.zip:
> > I put it as "songs1.zip". There is a text file in the zip and in the
> > directory that show the contents. I thought it would be better to identify
> > it as containing songs and to establish a pattern for all files containing
> > music for future uploads.
That's fine, but it would be nice if a description text also would be
included in the zip and in the index. Or perhaps a separate index file (in
the main directory) which only contains descriptions of the files (such as
who created the song/pattern/PCG and the title of the production).
Thanks!
How can I set SEND C and/or SEND D in seq edit mode page 1A to PRG by
sending MIDI controller data from an external sequencer?
I know it's possible to set send C with controller 91 and send D with
controller 93, but the parameter range 0 to 127 doesn't seem to include
PRG, i.e. I can set SEND C/D to 0 through 9, but not to PRG!?!?
These are the parameter intervals I've found:
Send C/D Parameter interval
-------- ------------------
0 [ 0 , 13]
1 [ 14 , 26]
2 [ 27 , 40]
3 [ 41 , 53]
4 [ 54 , 67]
5 [ 68 , 80]
6 [ 81 , 94]
7 [ 95 , 107]
8 [108 , 121]
9 [122 , 127]
PRG ???????????
Oh, and a merry christmas to those of you who celebrate it (I do)!
Cheers!
Hello,
I got a question, are file format specs known from the pcg files or sng files?
I would like to hack a little bit into these files...
Greetings,
Hero
ps. I saw the name Fedde on the list, is this the same Fedde who worked
at the MegaZone in Scheveningen ?
The file formats are not described exactly. But most of the contents
seem to follow the descriptions for the MIDI data dump formats in the
back of the thick book. Other than that, there is a short header which
you can see if you display the file.
Hope this helps
Peter
Hero Idema wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I got a question, are file format specs known from the pcg files or sng files?
> > I would like to hack a little bit into these files...
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Hero
> >
> > ps. I saw the name Fedde on the list, is this the same Fedde who worked
> > at the MegaZone in Scheveningen ?
> > _____________________
> > Hero Idema
> > *@*.net
> > http://www.imagica.net
> > telnet://imagica.net:4000
> > _____________________
I own a N264 for some weeks now and it seems that the N264 is going to be
taken out of production. (I bought it in the Netherlans BTW).
I know that the shop had it in store for about 6 months and I was wondering
if there is a software upgrade available from Korg. If this is nescesarry
ofcourse.
Q1: Is there a way to find out the software version inside the Korg N264
by keeping one or more keys pressed while powering up????
Q2: Also it came without the English manual. Is there a way to order them
somewhere?
Q3: Does anybody have the N264 namefile for Opcode's Vision for Windows?
Q4: Is a good Windows editor available for the N-series, besides the
X-Edit??
Looking forward to a reply.
Merry Christmas,
Ben
> > it seems that the N264 is going to be taken out of production. (I bought
it in
> > the Netherlans BTW).
It is!?
> > I know that the shop had it in store for about 6 months and I was wondering
> > if there is a software upgrade available from Korg. If this is nescesarry
> > ofcourse.
Please specify what you mean with software upgrade. Upgrade to what?
> > Q1: Is there a way to find out the software version inside the Korg N264
> > by keeping one or more keys pressed while powering up????
I don't know, but it should be possible to "order" version information via
a MIDI SysEx code. Check page 214 in the Reference Guide (if you have it?)
under table 1-4. There you can find what the N will reply, but I don't know
which SysEx order code to send. Does anybody know how to send a SysEx
INQUIRY MESSAGE REQUEST?
Oh, by the way, the MIDI implementation chart STINKS! :(
> > Q2: Also it came without the English manual. Is there a way to order them
> > somewhere?
Yes. Visit KORG's homepage at http://www.korg.com, and you'll find an
ordering page after a few moments of searching.
But first visit the shop where you bought your N and tell them to do it for
you, since you should have been given the two English manuals (Basic Guide
and Reference Guide) as well as your local-language version of the Basic
Guide in the package.
> > Q4: Is a good Windows editor available for the N-series, besides the
> > X-Edit??
Not yet, but in a while. Will inform you all when there is one around.
At 20:48 24-12-97 +0100, you wrote:
> >I own a N264 for some weeks now and it seems that the N264 is going to be
> >taken out of production. (I bought it in the Netherlans BTW).
The N264 is taken out of production ???
Why ???
And is the N364 still in production ???
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
>> > >I own a N264 for some weeks now and it seems that the N264 is going to
be
>> > >taken out of production. (I bought it in the Netherlans BTW).
No need to panic, dudes, both models are still in production. They are
not going out of production. Or, to put it another way, they will still
be produced for some time yet, I can assure you.
Regards,
jg.
On Mon, 22 Dec 1997, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > At 12:41 1997-12-19 -0800, Steve Day wrote:
> >
> > Free.zip:
> >
>> > > I put it as "songs1.zip". There is a text file in the zip and in the
>> > > directory that show the contents. I thought it would be better to identify
>> > > it as containing songs and to establish a pattern for all files containing
>> > > music for future uploads.
> >
> > That's fine, but it would be nice if a description text also would be
> > included in the zip and in the index. Or perhaps a separate index file (in
> > the main directory) which only contains descriptions of the files (such as
> > who created the song/pattern/PCG and the title of the production).
good idea, but who can do this, i don't know how to do it...
if somebody want to this work please e-mail me so we could make this file
(i'm autor)
> >
> > Thanks!
Hi there,
I got two things... First I made a simple sng header text file which you can include
in a package with songs/pcgs/rpprs, it's below in this mail including an example.
Please sent your comments, changes etc.
Secondly, I want to set up a kind of ftp-archive for the songs on my ftp server
(ftp.imagica.net), but I saw on the list some-one else is having some ftp space
available, and I don't want to make him angry by stealing his idea. Maybe we
can work some kind of mirroring stuff out...
On this ftp server I can also publish the listserv archive every week or something.
Please sent some comments on this... I'm very interested in what you think...
I also like it very much to listen to songs created by other people...
Greetings from the Netherlands,
Hero Idema
--- Cut ---
Korg N264/N364 Song/PCG Header
------------------------------
Author(s):
Date: MM/DD/YYYY
Package contains
Songs : Yes/No
New PCG: Yes/No
RPPR : Yes/No
Copy the next header for each song/rppr:
Songs:
---
Song nr : 0..9
Title :
Compose date: MM/DD/YYYY
Style :
Comments :
---
Rppr's:
---
Rppr nr : 0..9
Style :
Compose date: MM/DD/YYYY
Comments :
---
PCG's:
---
Date : MM/DD/YYYY
Comments :
Progs/Combi :
Banks/Groups:
---
--- End of header file.... ---
Now a filled in example... Remember, this is an example, my playing capabilities
are like those from a 3 year old dude.... :)
--- Example ---
Korg N264/N364 Song/PCG Header
------------------------------
Author(s): Hero Idema
Date: 01/06/1998
Package contains
Songs : Yes
New PCG: Yes
RPPR : No
Copy the next header for each song/rppr:
Songs:
---
Song nr : 0
Title : Swoosh
Compose date: 01/01/1998
Style : Trance (yeah... like it a lot)
Comments : Goa style trance song
---
Song nr : 1
Title : Bla
Compose date: 01/02/1998
Style : Classical
Comments : Lots of triangles
---
PCG's:
---
Date : 01/06/1998
Comments : Lots of different programs including the amazing triangle sound...
Progs/Combi : Only programs this time, no combi's
Banks/Groups: Just the A bank of the program memory
---
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Hero Idema wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Secondly, I want to set up a kind of ftp-archive for the songs on my ftp server
> > (ftp.imagica.net), but I saw on the list some-one else is having some ftp space
> > available, and I don't want to make him angry by stealing his idea. Maybe we
> > can work some kind of mirroring stuff out...
You won't make me angry. It just makes that much more space available
and also provides another ftp location if mine goes down for some reason.
Steve
Hi, can anyone tell me how a damper pedal works? If it is as simple as a
switch, then I can make one. Or if it is a potentiometer or variable
resistor I can also make.
Can someone measure their damper pedal with a meter and let me know how
it works, normally on or normally off, or if a resistor, what its value
is, and what pins are used on the plug
Thanks
Peter
You should have no problem making your own damper pedal(s). They are
simply composed of a type of switch called a "contact." However, there
are two types of contacts, Normally Open (N.O.) and Normally Closed
(N.C.). The majority of todays keyboards can use either.
Depending on which kind of contact you use, you may have to adjust in
your GLOBAL menu the DAMPER POLARITY from + to - or vice versa. You
will only have to do this if your Damper pedal sustains the notes only
when you DO NOT touch the pedal (Likewise, stepping on the pedal will
have no sustain). No problem!
As for the wiring, use a mono 1/4 inch jack which has two connectors and
simply connect (solder) them to the contact (may have two or three
terminals). If the contact has three terminals, then there is a high
chance that it can act as either a N.O. or N.C. contact. So just choose
one.
To verify your work, use an ohm meter to make sure that one position has
0 ohms resistance (CLOSED) and that the second position has infinite
resistance (OPEN).
To summarize, damper pedals use a switch and no resistors.
Future work: you can also make an expression pedal BUT using a variable
resistor.
Hope this helps,
Brian Vasquez
At 17:01 1998-01-05 -0300, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
>> >> That's fine, but it would be nice if a description text also would be
>> >> included in the zip and in the index. Or perhaps a separate index file (in
>> >> the main directory) which only contains descriptions of the files (such as
>> >> who created the song/pattern/PCG and the title of the production).
> >
> > good idea, but who can do this, i don't know how to do it...
> > if somebody want to this work please e-mail me so we could make this file
This has already been taken care of by Steve Day. Visit
ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001 (add this address to your Internet browser
bookmarks for later use - and this goes for all of you N-list members) and
have a look. The file is probably named "songs1.zip".
At 01:36 1998-01-06 +0100, Hero Idema wrote:
> > First I made a simple sng header text file which you can include
> > in a package with songs/pcgs/rpprs
Great idea! Would be very nice if everybody could use that template
when releasing SNG/PCG/PST!
> > Maybe we can work some kind of mirroring stuff out...
> > On this ftp server I can also publish the listserv archive every week or
> > something.
Another great idea! :)
im looking for the instrument definition for the N364 so i can use it with
cakewalk 4...can anyone help me???
Hello People,
Kenneth and I are getting lots of error messages from the server.
These error messages mostly come from messages which cannot be delivered.
Our mail server tries to sent the message about 4 more times, if it couldn't
sent it by then, the listserver will unsubscribe you from the list
automatically.
Just a reminder that this is happening...
Hero
Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services
*@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl
+31-(0)79-* *@*.net
"rm -rf /" is the key to problem solving on unix machines
Hi!
As Hero said, you will get auto-deleted from the N-list after 4
undeliverable messages sent to your mail-server.
Don't worry though! If you get auto-deleted I'll add you back again!
Hi all,
As long as we're on the subject of pedals...
Does anyone know how an N364 Expression pedal works? I presume it's a
potentiometer but I don't know how it should be hooked up or what value
resistance it should be.
As you may know Korg expression/volume pedals are very expensive and no
local store around hear carries them in order for me to try one. I tried to
use several other expression pedals from other manufacturers but none of
them seem to work. Korg tech. support tells me that N-series pedals are
different but they couldn't tell me in what way. (I honestly haven't had
much luck dealing with Korg tech. support)
John
(John.*@*.com)
Cyberjobb wrote:
> > im looking for the instrument definition for the N364 so i can use it with
> > cakewalk 4...can anyone help me???
Open the attachment in this mail.
Hope this helps !!
*@*.net.id
Deleted: Korgn364.ins
An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were:
Content-Type: application/x-internet-signup; name="Korgn364.ins"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Korgn364.ins"
Attachments:
Deleted: Korgn364.ins 254 bytes
Kenneth,
I cannot get the inspector window in Cubase to do a bank change to the GM
bank. Bank 4 does not work, nor does any other number. And what exactly do
you need to do to access the GM program numbers higher than 127 when using
Cubase? And while we're at it, why does the N364 have GM programs higher
than 127? I thought the GM standard was only 127 sounds.
Date: Thursday, January 08, 1998 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone using Cubase for Mac with the N364?
> >I went through my old personal N-list archive from when this list wasn't
> >running on a list server, and found this mail:
> >
> >At 15:54 1997-07-21 -0500, Gary Gulley wrote:
>> >> If anyone is familiar with Cubase (I am using Score VST 3.0), please
> >drop
>> >> me a line. I cannot figure out how to send program/bank select
> >commands
>> >> properly. How do you set it up? I am using OMS and of course
> >there is no
>> >> N364 factory file yet!
> >
> >I recently started using Cubase 3.5 VST. At the bottom left of the
> >arrangement window you should see a small button. Click it, and the window
> >contents will be expanded. You should now be able to enter bank and program
> >numbers into the BANK and PRG fields.
> >
> >Bank numbers are:
> >
> >A: 0
> >B: 1
> >C: 2
> >D: 3
> >GM: 4
> >
> >Program numbers:
> >
> >A-D: 1-100
> >GM: 1-127 (up to 136 when it comes to drumkits)
> >
> >You'll probably have to select sequencer mode (or any other mode) either by
> >pressing buttons on the N, or by sending MIDI SysEx (system exclusive)
> >messages as I do. Don't know whether it's possible to set synthesizer mode
> >with Cubase in some standardised way, but I guess not.
> >
> >If you for example want to select program B21, enter this:
> >
> >BANK: 1
> >PRG: 22
> >
> >(always add 1 to PRG, atleast when in bank A-D)
> >
> >Cheers!
In cubase, you can enter the bank and the program number in the inspector>.
Search the sound in the tables at the end of the NS5R manual, and then, in
"bank", enter MSB*128+LSB, in "prg", enter PC. This works for my NS5R and
cubase 3.52/VST on a PC. I still can't figure out how to access the drum
kits though, because there is no MSB/LSB listed for them. If you can figure
this out please e-mailme.
Kenneth,
I cannot get the inspector window in Cubase to do a bank change to the GM
bank. Bank 4 does not work, nor does any other number. And what exactly do
you need to do to access the GM program numbers higher than 127 when using
Cubase? And while we're at it, why does the N364 have GM programs higher
than 127? I thought the GM standard was only 127 sounds.
Date: Thursday, January 08, 1998 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone using Cubase for Mac with the N364?
> >I went through my old personal N-list archive from when this list wasn't
> >running on a list server, and found this mail:
> >
> >At 15:54 1997-07-21 -0500, Gary Gulley wrote:
>> >> If anyone is familiar with Cubase (I am using Score VST 3.0), please
> >drop
>> >> me a line. I cannot figure out how to send program/bank select
> >commands
>> >> properly. How do you set it up? I am using OMS and of course
> >there is no
>> >> N364 factory file yet!
> >
> >I recently started using Cubase 3.5 VST. At the bottom left of the
> >arrangement window you should see a small button. Click it, and the window
> >contents will be expanded. You should now be able to enter bank and program
> >numbers into the BANK and PRG fields.
> >
> >Bank numbers are:
> >
> >A: 0
> >B: 1
> >C: 2
> >D: 3
> >GM: 4
> >
> >Program numbers:
> >
> >A-D: 1-100
> >GM: 1-127 (up to 136 when it comes to drumkits)
> >
> >You'll probably have to select sequencer mode (or any other mode) either by
> >pressing buttons on the N, or by sending MIDI SysEx (system exclusive)
> >messages as I do. Don't know whether it's possible to set synthesizer mode
> >with Cubase in some standardised way, but I guess not.
> >
> >If you for example want to select program B21, enter this:
> >
> >BANK: 1
> >PRG: 22
> >
> >(always add 1 to PRG, atleast when in bank A-D)
> >
> >Cheers!
At 16:45 9-1-98 -0700, you wrote:
> >In cubase, you can enter the bank and the program number in the inspector>.
> >Search the sound in the tables at the end of the NS5R manual, and then, in
> >"bank", enter MSB*128+LSB, in "prg", enter PC. This works for my NS5R and
> >cubase 3.52/VST on a PC. I still can't figure out how to access the drum
> >kits though, because there is no MSB/LSB listed for them. If you can figure
> >this out please e-mailme.
> >
> >Kenneth,
> >
> >I cannot get the inspector window in Cubase to do a bank change to the GM
> >bank. Bank 4 does not work, nor does any other number. And what exactly do
> >you need to do to access the GM program numbers higher than 127 when using
> >Cubase? And while we're at it, why does the N364 have GM programs higher
> >than 127? I thought the GM standard was only 127 sounds.
Hmmm... check page 4 in your reference guide...
The following bank changes are stated there...
MSB 00, LSB 00 = bank A - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program 00-99
MSB 00, LSB 01 = bank B - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program 00-99
MSB 00, LSB 02 = bank C - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program 00-99
MSB 00, LSB 03 = bank D - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program 00-99
Now this is the tricky section
MSB 56, LSB 00 = GM bank - A program Change nr 00-127 will select GM program 01-128
MSB 3Eh (=62), LSB 00 = GM the higher numbers:
A program Change nr 00-15 or 56-63 or 72-127 will select GM program 129
A program Change nr 16-23 will select GM program 130
A program Change nr 25 will select GM program 131
A program Change nr 32-39 will select GM program 132
A program Change nr 40-47 will select GM program 133
A program Change nr 64-71 will select GM program 134
A program Change nr 24 or 26-31 will select GM program 135
A program Change nr 48-55 will select GM program 136
Hope you understand this a little... my english isn't that good.. :)
Hero
When I first joined the Korg List, I asked if anyone had an instrument
definition for the N364 that I could use with MOTU's Freestyle Sequencer
program. Since then, I have built the definition by using one for Cakewalk
(This only helped from the standpoint of not having to type in all of the
patch names). It works well except that my inital string is not placing
the N364 into the sequencer mode. (I have been doing that manually)
What MIDI SysEx (system exclusive) message to I send for this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Rich
Thanks for the info. I will give that a try. Anyone out there setup a
Cubase MixerMap for the N364?
GG
-----Original Message-----
From: Hero Idema <*@*.NET>
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
Date: Saturday, January 10, 1998 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: Anyone using Cubase for Mac with the N364?
> >At 16:45 9-1-98 -0700, you wrote:
>> >>In cubase, you can enter the bank and the program number in the
inspector>.
>> >>Search the sound in the tables at the end of the NS5R manual, and then, in
>> >>"bank", enter MSB*128+LSB, in "prg", enter PC. This works for my NS5R and
>> >>cubase 3.52/VST on a PC. I still can't figure out how to access the drum
>> >>kits though, because there is no MSB/LSB listed for them. If you can
figure
>> >>this out please e-mailme.
>> >>
>> >>Kenneth,
>> >>
>> >>I cannot get the inspector window in Cubase to do a bank change to the GM
>> >>bank. Bank 4 does not work, nor does any other number. And what exactly
do
>> >>you need to do to access the GM program numbers higher than 127 when using
>> >>Cubase? And while we're at it, why does the N364 have GM programs higher
>> >>than 127? I thought the GM standard was only 127 sounds.
> >
> >Hmmm... check page 4 in your reference guide...
> >The following bank changes are stated there...
> >
> >MSB 00, LSB 00 = bank A - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program
00-99
> >MSB 00, LSB 01 = bank B - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program
00-99
> >MSB 00, LSB 02 = bank C - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program
00-99
> >MSB 00, LSB 03 = bank D - A program Change nr 00-99 will select program
00-99
> >
> >Now this is the tricky section
> >
> >MSB 56, LSB 00 = GM bank - A program Change nr 00-127 will select GM
program 01-128
> >MSB 3Eh (=62), LSB 00 = GM the higher numbers:
> > A program Change nr 00-15 or 56-63 or 72-127 will select GM program 129
> > A program Change nr 16-23 will select GM program 130
> > A program Change nr 25 will select GM program 131
> > A program Change nr 32-39 will select GM program 132
> > A program Change nr 40-47 will select GM program 133
> > A program Change nr 64-71 will select GM program 134
> > A program Change nr 24 or 26-31 will select GM program 135
> > A program Change nr 48-55 will select GM program 136
> >
> >
> >Hope you understand this a little... my english isn't that good.. :)
> >
> >Hero
> >
> >_____________________
> >Hero Idema
> >*@*.net
> >http://www.imagica.net
> >telnet://imagica.net:4000
> >_____________________
> >
I've uploaded Cakewalk instrument definitions for N264 & N364 to Steve
Day's ftp space. In a short while you'll be able to download it from:
ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
most likely under the filename "cakewalk.zip".
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > I've uploaded Cakewalk instrument definitions for N264 & N364 to Steve
> > Day's ftp space. In a short while you'll be able to download it from:
> >
> > ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
> >
> > most likely under the filename "cakewalk.zip".
thanks for taking the time
dow you know how to change the sound i'm playing while playing smf?or even
turn up the vol.?
Does anyone know if it is possible to obtain a digital out from the
NS5R by retrofit, or retrofit/shield the power supply a bit more to
make it quieter? When I turn it up there is a slightly noticeable
noise floor, much more than my Wavestation EX. The box is really
useful, but it would be awesome with a digital out.
On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > I've uploaded Cakewalk instrument definitions for N264 & N364 to Steve
> > Day's ftp space. In a short while you'll be able to download it from:
> >
> > ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
> >
> > most likely under the filename "cakewalk.zip".
So as not to be confused with the program, I called it korg-ins.zip.
There is a corresponding text file, korg-ins.txt, that tells what's in it.
I wouldn't want anyone to think I was giving away a mini version of
Cakewalk. :)
It's available to anyone that wants it.
Steve
At 15:02 1998-01-13 -0800, Steve Day wrote:
>> I've uploaded Cakewalk instrument definitions for N264 & N364 to Steve
>> Day's ftp space. In a short while you'll be able to download it from:
>>
>> ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
>>
>> most likely under the filename "cakewalk.zip".
>
> So as not to be confused with the program, I called it korg-ins.zip.
>There is a corresponding text file, korg-ins.txt, that tells what's in it.
>I wouldn't want anyone to think I was giving away a mini version of
>Cakewalk. :)
Hehe, shite. I knew you'd change that filename. :)
But I do ofcourse not mind...
At 01:44 1998-01-15 -0800, mark gurevitch wrote:
>I want to play some tracks live and some recorded but when I try to play
>an smf I can only play what the N gives me sometines drums sometime piano
>but at very low vol.
If your N plays the wrong instruments when playing SMFs, go to global mode
page 3C and change from PROG:ENA to PROG:NUM. This should force
wrong-playing general midi songs to use the right instruments.
But, when setting PROG to NUM, you will probably not be able to select
N-specific programs/combis from an external sequencer. You'll need to set
PROG back to ENA then.
You can increase the volume for each of the 16 sequencer tracks, but that
will only work well if you have loaded the SMF into the N's onboard
sequencer. If you use an external sequencer (e.g. your computer), try
increasing the volume in that one instead.
Hmm... but I still don't think I've fully understood your problem. Please
give an example...
Cheers!
At 22:54 1998-01-13 +0100, Gary Gulley wrote:
>What is the SysEx message to put the N in Seq mode? I have searched thru
>the Midi Implementation charts and could not find anything
The charts aren't very clear on this, and I haven't been able to sort it
out either. But I solved it quite easily:
1. Set Cubase to be able to record SysEx
2. Start recording
3. Press the SEQ button on your N (provided you first were in any other
mode, since else no SysEx message will be transmitted), and stop
recording.
4. Play back what you've recorded, and the N should go into seq-mode (if
you're in any other mode before playing).
5. Use list-edit to view/move/edit the SysEx message you recorded. I've
put mine in a separate initialisation track at the beginning of each
song.
There is however a more elegant way to initialise the N. This is by sending
a "General MIDI reset" SysEx message, which will put the N in seq mode,
song 9:
F0,7E,7F,09,01,F7
Cheerio!
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >
> > There is however a more elegant way to initialise the N. This is by sending
> > a "General MIDI reset" SysEx message, which will put the N in seq mode,
> > song 9:
> >
> > F0,7E,7F,09,01,F7
^^
The only problem with this method is that if you've changed the channel
that control messages are received on, it won't work. You must insure that
the channel in the sysex message is correct for your settings.
Steve
Ahaaa! That is brilliant! Now, I assume you can use that procedure to
figure out the SysEx messages for all kinds of things, huh?
Gary Gulley
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE>
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
Date: Thursday, January 15, 1998 6:14 PM
Subject: Seq-mode SysEx code
> >At 22:54 1998-01-13 +0100, Gary Gulley wrote:
>> > >What is the SysEx message to put the N in Seq mode? I have searched thru
>> > >the Midi Implementation charts and could not find anything
> >
> >The charts aren't very clear on this, and I haven't been able to sort it
> >out either. But I solved it quite easily:
> >
> >1. Set Cubase to be able to record SysEx
> >2. Start recording
> >3. Press the SEQ button on your N (provided you first were in any other
> > mode, since else no SysEx message will be transmitted), and stop
> > recording.
> >4. Play back what you've recorded, and the N should go into seq-mode (if
> > you're in any other mode before playing).
> >5. Use list-edit to view/move/edit the SysEx message you recorded. I've
> > put mine in a separate initialisation track at the beginning of each
> > song.
> >
> >There is however a more elegant way to initialise the N. This is by sending
> >a "General MIDI reset" SysEx message, which will put the N in seq mode,
> >song 9:
> >
> >F0,7E,7F,09,01,F7
> >
> >Cheerio!
hey i was wondering if anyone recieved the rebate offer from korg.
(consisting of the 5 disks of sounds and the headphones). are the
sounds any good? i havent recieved mine yet. any comments would be
helpful. i mean is this something i should be excited about recieving?
Kaliss
At 11:00 16-1-98 EST, you wrote:
> >hey i was wondering if anyone recieved the rebate offer from korg.
> >(consisting of the 5 disks of sounds and the headphones). are the
> >sounds any good? i havent recieved mine yet. any comments would be
> >helpful. i mean is this something i should be excited about recieving?
> >
> >Kaliss
> >
> >
We (in Holland) don't get a rebate offer :-(
Is it illegal to copy those disks, otherwise I would be
really interested in them !!!
And are there RPPR patterns on the disks ?
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
At 07:36 1998-01-10 -0800, Richard L. Collins wrote:
>It works well except that my inital string is not placing
>the N364 into the sequencer mode. (I have been doing that manually)
>
>What MIDI SysEx (system exclusive) message to I send for this?
General MIDI reset is a good SysEx message to use:
F0,7E,7F,09,01,F7
The N will respond by entering sequencer mode, song 9. I've left this song
empty and named it "MIDI".
> >We (in Holland) don't get a rebate offer :-(
> >Is it illegal to copy those disks, otherwise I would be
> >really interested in them !!!
> >And are there RPPR patterns on the disks ?
i would assume it would be illegal to copy the disks. but is a N user
from holland any different than a user in the USA? i think its
discriminatory. heh.
check out the korg site for more info
http://www.korg.com/nspecial2.htm
Kaliss
This mail provides info about GM bank selection messages, not only usable
with Cubase, but for all external sequencers.
At 11:08 1998-01-09 -0600, Gary Gulley wrote:
>I cannot get the inspector window in Cubase to do a bank change to the GM
>bank. Bank 4 does not work, nor does any other number.
Bank 4 works fine for me, atleast when using Cubasis. Try 7169 (yes, I'm
serious) and see if that works.
>And what exactly do
>you need to do to access the GM program numbers higher than 127 when using
>Cubase? And while we're at it, why does the N364 have GM programs higher
>than 127? I thought the GM standard was only 127 sounds.
Programs above 128 are extra drum kits (129 to 136). Bank number 7937
should put you in "drumkit mode". Then you can select kits 129 to 136 by
using program select numbers 0, 16, 25, 26, 33, 41, 48 and 65. Test it.
These kits are a sort of standardised extension to the GM standard. Not all
general midi devices support them.
Read Hero's previous mail about bank selection for more info about numbers.
At 18:24 1998-01-15 -0600, Gary Gulley wrote:
>Ahaaa! That is brilliant! Now, I assume you can use that procedure to
>figure out the SysEx messages for all kinds of things, huh?
Yep! If there is a SysEx message you want to send to the N, try to trigger
it from the N first and record the SysEx it sends. Then just play it back.
It won't work with all functions though. I'm not sure which work and which
don't.
At 18:25 1998-01-16 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
>We (in Holland) don't get a rebate offer :-(
>Is it illegal to copy those disks, otherwise I would be
>really interested in them !!!
>And are there RPPR patterns on the disks ?
Download them from ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ under the filename
"n-disks.zip" (or something similar).
At 16:24 1998-01-15 -0800, Steve Day wrote:
>> There is however a more elegant way to initialise the N. This is by
sending
>> a "General MIDI reset" SysEx message, which will put the N in seq mode,
>> song 9:
>>
>> F0,7E,7F,09,01,F7
> ^^
> The only problem with this method is that if you've changed the channel
>that control messages are received on, it won't work. You must insure that
>the channel in the sysex message is correct for your settings.
Thanks for this remark. Didn't think about that, though it's rather important.
Kaliss,
Unfortunately the offer is only good in the USA. Stupid, but it's the way it
is.
Would it be possible for you to zip the disks you received (especially the
RPPR drum disk) and mail them as attachements? Or, upload them to N-list
ftp-site below?
ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/uploads/
I think you will make a lot of N-people in other countries then the USA very
happy! :)
Thanx in advance,
Ben Evers
> > Would it be possible for you to zip the disks you received (especially
the
> > RPPR drum disk) and mail them as attachements? Or, upload them to N-list
> > ftp-site below?
I also am very interested in getting a copy of the RPPR Drums Disk. I've
been trying to get intouch with serf (who has a copy of it) but I think he
dropped off the face of the earth. I saw a message on this list from him
recently. He was trying to sell an N364. I guess this means he's out of the
picture. Does anyone else have a copy of the Drums Disk?
Serf,
If you're out there, drop me an email.
John
(John.*@*.com)
no problem. i'll ftp em as soon as i get em. (i'm still awaiting the
delivery).
Kaliss.
> >Would it be possible for you to zip the disks you received (especially
the
> >RPPR drum disk) and mail them as attachements? Or, upload them to
N-list
> >ftp-site below?
> >
> >ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/uploads/
Is anyone here familair with using the n364 with cakewalk? If so, just wondering
if you can briefly explain to me how i can use combinations within cakewalk
and also how i would go about using the n364's effects. Sequencing with
dry sounds is good if one has external fx processers but im stuck with only
the n364.. any help with this would be appreciated
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
At 21:11 16-1-98 +0100, you wrote:
> >At 18:25 1998-01-16 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
> >
>> > >We (in Holland) don't get a rebate offer :-(
>> > >Is it illegal to copy those disks, otherwise I would be
>> > >really interested in them !!!
>> > >And are there RPPR patterns on the disks ?
> >
> >Download them from ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ under the filename
> >"n-disks.zip" (or something similar).
Thank you !
I particularly like the file X3organs.PCG !!!!!
(I've always been a Hammond organ fan, and I love to play Jazz dance
grooves and other songs on them...)
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
In a message dated 98-01-21 01:22:07 EST, you write:
<< Is anyone here familair with using the n364 with cakewalk? If so, just
wondering
if you can briefly explain to me how i can use combinations within cakewalk
and also how i would go about using the n364's effects. Sequencing with
dry sounds is good if one has external fx processers but im stuck with only
the n364.. any help with this would be appreciated >>
well steve-you cant use the combination sounds-sux doesnt it-
as far as fx-set them on the N364 on whatever song you have it on while youre
using cakewalk---the fx you choose will effect every track
...-to get around that you need a mixer-...
-ted-
From: Steve Wallis <*@*.NET>
> >Is anyone here familair with using the n364 with cakewalk? If so, just
wondering
> >if you can briefly explain to me how i can use combinations within cakewalk
> >and also how i would go about using the n364's effects. Sequencing with
> >dry sounds is good if one has external fx processers but im stuck with only
> >the n364.. any help with this would be appreciated
> >
> >regards,
> >
> >Steve Wallis
> >*@*.net
In Cakewalk (mine is Ver5.0) switch to Evenlist view of the track you want
to apply the effect. Click the menu: Insert, Series of Controllers & choose
controller #91 to apply reverb and controller #93 to apply chorus to your
track. Don't forget to specify a value (max 127).
That's what I usually do. You can use other controllers too !
August F H Hardiman
*@*.net
hi
I recently changed my email address. So please change the my address.
My address used to be *@*.net
change it to
*@*.com
Thanx
At 13:34 1998-01-21 EST, Cyberjobb wrote:
>well steve-you cant use the combination sounds-sux doesnt it-
You can, but it's a bit complicated and cumbersome.
>as far as fx-set them on the N364 on whatever song you have it on while
youre
>using cakewalk---the fx you choose will effect every track
>...-to get around that you need a mixer-...
Hmm.. how to get around it by using a mixer? I have recently purchased a
nice little mixer myself, so it would be interesting to know what you mean!
by assigning channels...ive never done it so im not realy sure
At 16:16 1998-01-20 EST, KaLiSS ? wrote:
>no problem. i'll ftp em as soon as i get em. (i'm still awaiting the
>delivery).
You don't need to wait. As told before, the file "n-disks.zip" at
ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ contains all the disks except the "Raw Drums"
disk. Thought nobody on this list seems to have that disk!?!?
At 00:22 1998-01-23 EST, Cyberjobb wrote:
>by assigning channels...ive never done it so im not realy sure
There are maximally 4 outputs from the N, so I wonder how it would be
possible to add separate effects on each of the 16 channels? Or perhaps
that's not what you meant?
Separate effects can be added by first sampling each channel separately
(with Cubase, any other sequencer or a sampler program) and then applying
effects with some effect program, but that can't be done in realtime.
If KORG would enhance the N, these features would be nice:
* Two effects processors on each of the 16 sequencer channels
* 64 MB NV-RAM for samples
Though that would be rather expensive ofcourse...
At 02:03 26-1-98 +0100, you wrote:
> >At 00:22 1998-01-23 EST, Cyberjobb wrote:
> >
>> > >by assigning channels...ive never done it so im not realy sure
> >
> >There are maximally 4 outputs from the N, so I wonder how it would be
> >possible to add separate effects on each of the 16 channels? Or perhaps
> >that's not what you meant?
> >
> >Separate effects can be added by first sampling each channel separately
> >(with Cubase, any other sequencer or a sampler program) and then applying
> >effects with some effect program, but that can't be done in realtime.
> >
> >If KORG would enhance the N, these features would be nice:
> >
> >* Two effects processors on each of the 16 sequencer channels
> >* 64 MB NV-RAM for samples
> >
> >Though that would be rather expensive ofcourse...
Buy a Trinity with wave expansion board.....
Rather expensive indeed !
At 11:30 1998-01-26 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
>>If KORG would enhance the N, these features would be nice:
>>
>>* Two effects processors on each of the 16 sequencer channels
>>* 64 MB NV-RAM for samples
>
>Buy a Trinity with wave expansion board.....
>
>Rather expensive indeed !
I was given a very good offer on a Trinity Plus (about 30% off), but it
would still have been almost twice the price I paid for my N364. And the
whole Trinity series has got one awful drawback that's reason enough for
not buying one of them: only 32 voice polyphony!
32 just ain't enough. 64 is a whole lot better!
Oh, and something that doesn't belong to this list: Don't believe Creative
Labs when they boast about their Soundblaster AWE64 sound card. It has NOT
got a 64 voice polyphony synth chip, it has infact only got 30! The 32
extra CPU-calculated software voices sound like SHIT. Believe me, I've got
an AWE64 Gold, so I know. Besides, it hasn't even got a hardware MIDI
interface. No Soundblaster card has. Crappo-zappo! ;)
Hi,
I own the N364, I was thinking of getting myself another synthesizer in
addition to the N364. I have seen the new Korg Z1 in a demonstration. It
seemed to be awesome. A nice sound, many real-time effectcontrolers and
switches to change cutoff-frequencies ans stuff. Really neat. Has anyone
else seen or heard the Z1 ( this is ZEE ONE )? Do you think it would be a
good thing to use it
in connection zith my N364 or should I first get a computerprogram like
cakewalk? I would appreciate some advise.
Thanx
Tooners
> > Oh, and something that doesn't belong to this list: Don't believe
Creative
> > Labs when they boast about their Soundblaster AWE64 sound card. It has
NOT
> > got a 64 voice polyphony synth chip, it has infact only got 30! The 32
> > extra CPU-calculated software voices sound like SHIT. Believe me, I've
got
> > an AWE64 Gold, so I know. Besides, it hasn't even got a hardware MIDI
> > interface. No Soundblaster card has. Crappo-zappo! ;)
No SoundBlaster has a hardware MIDI interface?!? I have a SoundBlaster
SB-16 and it has a game port which doubles as a MIDI interface (with an
adapter). It seems to work just fine. I suppose it could be just a software
emulation of a "hardware MIDI interface" (I'm not sure). But my question is
why would I care? Is a hardware MIDI interface faster? More functionally
compatible? Who makes a board with a hardware MIDI interface?
John
(John.*@*.com)
At 07:22 1998-01-28 EST, John Schulz wrote:
>No SoundBlaster has a hardware MIDI interface?!? I have a SoundBlaster
>SB-16 and it has a game port which doubles as a MIDI interface (with an
>adapter). It seems to work just fine. I suppose it could be just a software
>emulation of a "hardware MIDI interface" (I'm not sure). But my question is
>why would I care? Is a hardware MIDI interface faster? More functionally
>compatible? Who makes a board with a hardware MIDI interface?
All soundblasters have connectors and wiring for MIDI, but none of them
have a hardware MPU-401. Software emulation.
Gerenally this doesn't matter at all, but it could cause
timing/synchronisation problems. I'm having no trouble with my SB AWE64
Gold myself, so I'm not complaining. Just a statement.
Most "high-end" sound cards have a hardware MPU-401. Else a separate
ISA/PCI MIDI-card can be used.
What I forgot to mention, which actually sucks a lot, is that all the
mixing in Soundblaster cards is done by software. Now this causes a lot of
shit, of which the biggest is the synch problems. It's also not possible to
use more than one sample-channel at a time, since the mixer device doesn't
support multiple inputs. Now, not only Soundblaster card have this severe
limitation. Most cheap cards have.
I really shoudln't write this, since it'll probably make some people react,
and this list isn't about Soundblaster. Sorry for even bringing it up in
the first place.
kenneth... please un subscribe me from the n-list as I won't have access
to my e-mail starting next week.... thanks..
At 01:10 1998-01-29 PST, j. austin wrote:
>kenneth... please un subscribe me from the n-list as I won't have access
>to my e-mail starting next week.... thanks..
I'll remove you right away.
Do you wish to be added under an other address?
> > switches to change cutoff-frequencies ans stuff. Really neat. Has anyone
> > else seen or heard the Z1 ( this is ZEE ONE )? Do you think it would be a
> > good thing to use it
> > in connection zith my N364 or should I first get a computerprogram like
Yeah, I think it would be a great combination.
jg.
kenneth... please un subscribe me from the n-list as I won't have access
to my e-mail starting next week.... thanks..
Prasad
Thanks everyone for your replies with the n364 and cakewalk. I decided it was
more trouble than what its worth and simply went back to using the n364's
built in sequencer :) -its almost as good as cakewalk anyways in my opinion.
BTW, has anyone seen or heard of some of the new gear Korg plans on showcasing
at namm? I cant wait to see what that the new N5 is like.
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
In a message dated 98-01-30 10:10:29 EST, you write:
<< Thanks everyone for your replies with the n364 and cakewalk. I decided it
was
more trouble than what its worth and simply went back to using the n364's
built in sequencer :) -its almost as good as cakewalk anyways in my opinion.
>> >>
i believe and i think youll find that using the on-board can be a real bitch!
there are some kinks to work out with the N and cakewalk, but in the end i
believe its well worth it...a time saver to say the least!!!
At 05:04 1998-01-30 PST, Prasad Dalvie wrote:
>kenneth... please un subscribe me from the n-list as I won't have access
>to my e-mail starting next week.... thanks..
To everybody: please don't send requests through the list address! Use
*@*.syntegra.net
for that.
Hi ppl
I just got the Cakewalk 6.0ProAudio. b4 buying it I also tried out the
Cubase AudioXT 3.0 but I liked the Cakewalk I guess (Plus it was cheaper
:) Cubase seemed a little confusing to me.
Anyway as required in the cakewalk, I got the Instument Defination for
the N364, no sweat, I did get all the Program ABCD and GM. But in the
GM it doesn't hv patches 129-136. How come? How do I get them.
Plus how do u control/select Combis from the Cakewalk? Is it in anyway
possible to use Combis an a Sequenced piece? I'vent been able to do
the with either N sequencer, and forget cakewalk, I dont even know how
to do that.
I know I can somehow copy a combi on to the N sequencer, but the problem
is, the effects from the combi effect all 16 channel even if the combi
has only 2 timbre..upto 8. My question is how do I copy the combi
on to the seq w/out effecting the other 8 channels....
ANY ADVICE?
Another q.. When I use Cakewalk, do I have to have N in any specific
mode? Somebody told me, I should always stay in SEQ mode S9.
Thanx
On Sun, 1 Feb 1998, Sammy Q wrote:
> > Hi ppl
> >
> >
> > Anyway as required in the cakewalk, I got the Instument Defination for
> > the N364, no sweat, I did get all the Program ABCD and GM. But in the
> > GM it doesn't hv patches 129-136. How come? How do I get them.
GM doesn't have any instrument patches above 128 (127 if you number
from 0), the numbers you are talking about refer to drum kits. If you
assign a drum bank to a channel and then scroll through the "instruments"
you will see the drum kits. The actual number doesn't match the numbering
sequence in the manual. There's quite a bit of number space between each
kit.
>
> > Plus how do u control/select Combis from the Cakewalk? Is it in anyway
> > possible to use Combis an a Sequenced piece? I'vent been able to do
> > the with either N sequencer, and forget cakewalk, I dont even know how
> > to do that.
The combo's should be selected if you select any one of the combo banks
(A, B, C or D) in Cakewalk.
> > I know I can somehow copy a combi on to the N sequencer, but the problem
> > is, the effects from the combi effect all 16 channel even if the combi
> > has only 2 timbre..upto 8. My question is how do I copy the combi
> > on to the seq w/out effecting the other 8 channels....
> > ANY ADVICE?
Haven't played with that part. Someone else wil have to answer it.
> >
> > Another q.. When I use Cakewalk, do I have to have N in any specific
> > mode? Somebody told me, I should always stay in SEQ mode S9.
If you switch to SEQ mode and select the correct bank in Cakewalk, the
S9 doesn't matter. The patches will play correctly. The only time you need
to use the S9 selection is when you're playing a GM MIDI that doesn't have
any bank select data in it. You MUST be in SEQ mode to play any GM song.
For some reason the thing won't change from Combo mode to SEQ mode if you
just send it the GM bank select from Cakewalk.
Steve
its and the gm
patches.
Deleted: N364.INS
An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were:
Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="N364.INS";
x-mac-type="42494E41"; x-mac-creator="6D646F73"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="N364.INS"
Attachments:
Deleted: N364.INS 296 bytes
Just thought id mention that the controller data in the updated .ins might
be a tad off as i pieced this together from both an X3 and N364 .ins file.
If anyone out there can configure the controllers in the file please do and
resend to this list.
At 10:04 1998-01-30 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
>BTW, has anyone seen or heard of some of the new gear Korg plans on
showcasing
>at namm? I cant wait to see what that the new N5 is like.
N5? Haven't heard about it. Is it an improvement of the N3, and if so, what
are the changes? If it has lots of NV-RAM and more effect processors I'll
switch as soon as they're released. :)
At 01:48 1998-02-01 PST, Sammy Q wrote:
>I know I can somehow copy a combi on to the N sequencer, but the problem
>is, the effects from the combi effect all 16 channel even if the combi
>has only 2 timbre..upto 8. My question is how do I copy the combi
>on to the seq w/out effecting the other 8 channels....
>ANY ADVICE?
There are only two effect processors in the N, so you always have to choose
the effects carefully. If there were two effect processors for each of the
16 channels there wouldn't be any problems at all. But that's not the case
with the N, so we all have to suffer. :)
If you copy a combi to the seq by using page 8E in seq-edit mode, the
effect settings won't be copied with it, so I guess that solves your problem?
>Another q.. When I use Cakewalk, do I have to have N in any specific
>mode? Somebody told me, I should always stay in SEQ mode S9.
You must be in seq mode, but not necessarily song 9. Though a good way to
put the N in seq mode when using an external sequencer, without pressing
the seq button, is to send a GM reset code (which I've mentioned in an
earlier mail). This will put the N in seq mode and song 9.
At 02:17 1998-02-01 -0800, Steve Day wrote:
>> Another q.. When I use Cakewalk, do I have to have N in any specific
>> mode? Somebody told me, I should always stay in SEQ mode S9.
>
> If you switch to SEQ mode and select the correct bank in Cakewalk, the
>S9 doesn't matter. The patches will play correctly. The only time you need
>to use the S9 selection is when you're playing a GM MIDI that doesn't have
>any bank select data in it.
>You MUST be in SEQ mode to play any GM song.
And for any kind of multitimbral (multi-instrumental) music playing from an
external sequencer.
>For some reason the thing won't change from Combo mode to SEQ mode if you
>just send it the GM bank select from Cakewalk.
That would infact be a pretty smart idea. Too bad KORG didn't think of that.
Does anybody know if it's possible to update the OS ROMs of the N (either
by software flashing or hardware chip-switching)? If it is, we can start
pusing KORG to release a new ROM with that feature (and a few cosmetic
bug-fixes).
At 23:04 01/02/98 +0100, you wrote:
> >At 10:04 1998-01-30 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
> >
>> > >BTW, has anyone seen or heard of some of the new gear Korg plans on
> >showcasing
>> > >at namm? I cant wait to see what that the new N5 is like.
> >
> >N5? Haven't heard about it. Is it an improvement of the N3, and if so, what
> >are the changes? If it has lots of NV-RAM and more effect processors I'll
> >switch as soon as they're released. :)
The N5 is basically the nsr5. It has resonance, a bunch of knobs and i believe
finally some filters. The board itself looks pretty cool, sort of a cross
between a cs1x and the traditional N364/x3. I saw a pic of it on korg japans
web site and it looks awesome. sonic state also has a small review of it on
their site(no pic tho). www.sonicstate.com to check it out.
regards,
Steve Wallis
> >
> >Just thought id mention that the controller data in the updated .ins
might
> >be a tad off as i pieced this together from both an X3 and N364 .ins
file.
> >If anyone out there can configure the controllers in the file please do
and
> >resend to this list.
> >
Is this an INS file? when I downloaded it, it came as an EXE file. and
I tried it, it came out with an error msg saying not a valid windows
application... Is it a MAC file...
>> > >I know I can somehow copy a combi on to the N sequencer, but the
problem
>> > >is, the effects from the combi effect all 16 channel even if the
combi
>> > >has only 2 timbre..upto 8. My question is how do I copy the
combi
>> > >on to the seq w/out effecting the other 8 channels....
>> > >ANY ADVICE?
> >
> >There are only two effect processors in the N, so you always have to
choose
> >the effects carefully.
HOW R U SUPPOSED TO DO THIS EXACTLY?
> >
> >If you copy a combi to the seq by using page 8E in seq-edit mode, the
> >effect settings won't be copied with it, so I guess that solves your
problem?
I DID THIS. FOR EX, I COPIED B29 COMBI TO S7. IT HAS 7 TIMBRES AND
IT TAKES ALL TRACKS 1-8. WHEN I CHOOSE TRACK 9 AND LETS SAY HAVE G01,
IT CARRIES OUT THE EFFECTS FM B29 COMBI. HOW DO I STOP THAT?
>> > >Another q.. When I use Cakewalk, do I have to have N in any
specific
>> > >mode? Somebody told me, I should always stay in SEQ mode S9.
> >
> >You must be in seq mode, but not necessarily song 9. Though a good way
to
> >put the N in seq mode when using an external sequencer, without
pressing
> >the seq button, is to send a GM reset code (which I've mentioned in an
> >earlier mail). This will put the N in seq mode and song 9.
I THINK I MISSED THIS MAIL SOME HOW :( KENNETH WILL U HELP ME
UNDERSTAND THIS gm RESET CODE..
THANX
hASNAT
> >At 02:17 1998-02-01 -0800, Steve Day wrote:
> >
>>> > >> Another q.. When I use Cakewalk, do I have to have N in any
specific
>>> > >> mode? Somebody told me, I should always stay in SEQ mode S9.
>> > > If you switch to SEQ mode and select the correct bank in Cakewalk,
the
>> > >S9 doesn't matter. The patches will play correctly. The only time you
need
>> > >to use the S9 selection is when you're playing a GM MIDI that doesn't
have
>> > >any bank select data in it.
> >
>> > >You MUST be in SEQ mode to play any GM song.
> >And for any kind of multitimbral (multi-instrumental) music playing
from an
> >external sequencer.
HOW DO U CHOOSE THIS MULTITIMBRAL INSTRUMENT FM CAKEWALK?
> >Is this an INS file? when I downloaded it, it came as an EXE file. and
> >I tried it, it came out with an error msg saying not a valid windows
> >application... Is it a MAC file...
Hmm.. thats very strange. Must be a problem in my file attachment protocals
or something as the file itself is an actual .ins file. If someone will give
me the address to Steve Days ftp site i'll upload it.
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
At 02:09 1998-02-03 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
>>Is this an INS file? when I downloaded it, it came as an EXE file. and
>>I tried it, it came out with an error msg saying not a valid windows
>>application... Is it a MAC file...
>
>Hmm.. thats very strange. Must be a problem in my file attachment protocals
>or something as the file itself is an actual .ins file. If someone will give
>me the address to Steve Days ftp site i'll upload it.
As said one zillion times before: ;)
ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
ALL of you, BOOKMARK THIS *NOW*:
ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
That is the address to the ftp site. Files will drop in there once in a while.
On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > At 02:09 1998-02-03 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
> > >>Is this an INS file? when I downloaded it, it came as an EXE file. and
> > >>I tried it, it came out with an error msg saying not a valid windows
> > >>application... Is it a MAC file...
> > >
> > >Hmm.. thats very strange. Must be a problem in my file attachment protocals
> > >or something as the file itself is an actual .ins file. If someone will give
> > >me the address to Steve Days ftp site i'll upload it.
> >
> > As said one zillion times before: ;)
> >
> > ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
> >
> > ALL of you, BOOKMARK THIS *NOW*:
> >
> > ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
That's for download only.
The upload directory is users/sad001/uploads and is write only.
Steve
At 00:55 1998-02-02 PST, Hasnat M wrote:
>>>You MUST be in SEQ mode to play any GM song.
>>
>>And for any kind of multitimbral (multi-instrumental) music playing
>>from an external sequencer.
>
>HOW DO U CHOOSE THIS MULTITIMBRAL INSTRUMENT FM CAKEWALK?
You mean how you select seq mode on the N from Cakewalk? Well, I don't have
Cakewalk, but I guess you should be able to create a GM reset SysEx code in
most sequencers. If you can't create it, then "steal" it from a .MID file
that does a GM reset. I did.
For those of you who use external sequencers with your N:
I've created an very small (61 bytes) standard midi file, that only
contains the SysEx GM reset code. You can test it by simply switching your
N on and then play the file "gm-reset.mid" from your external sequencer or
computer, and the N should enter seq mode & song 9.
It won't matter which midi channel you have set as global on your N (page
3A in global mode). Atleast it doesn't for me.
If you want to use this code in your music, try to import "gm-reset.mid" to
your sequencer in some way. Then you must move your music tracks atleast a
few fractions of a second 'down' in time, so the N has time to respond to
the GM rest code.
For 'advanced' users:
If you want to add the code to a sequencer track manually, then this is the
complete SysEx message in hexadecimals:
F0, 7E, 7F, 09, 01, F7
Take a look at page 216 in the Reference Guide if you wish to know what
each of these numbers do.
Deleted: gm-reset.mid
An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were:
Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="gm-reset.mid"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="gm-reset.mid"
Attachments:
Deleted: gm-reset.mid 253 bytes
At 00:51 1998-02-02 PST, Hasnat M wrote:
>>There are only two effect processors in the N, so you always have to
>>choose the effects carefully.
>
>HOW R U SUPPOSED TO DO THIS EXACTLY?
That depends on what instruments (programs) you use. If you want to use a
guitar with distortion fx and stereo delay fx, you can be quite sure that
the rest of the instruments will be troublesome to use. You can avoid
feeding the effect processors by setting either or both of the send C/D
levels to 0, but it doesn't always work.
Beware that the fx placement (page 7E in seq mode) should be set to
parallell 3, since else you might not be able to 'split' the fx processors
from eachother to 100%. Blah, I'm not too good at explaining....
If you only use instruments which don't require any special fx else than
some reverb and chorus, then there's no problem.
I'm the kind of person who uses more or less extreme and totally different
fx settings on several instruments in a song, so I would definately like to
have more fx processors. As it is now, I have to record each standing-out
instrument separately, as digital audio samples. Not very interactive.
>>If you copy a combi to the seq by using page 8E in seq-edit mode, the
>>effect settings won't be copied with it, so I guess that solves your
>>problem?
>
>I DID THIS. FOR EX, I COPIED B29 COMBI TO S7. IT HAS 7 TIMBRES AND
>IT TAKES ALL TRACKS 1-8. WHEN I CHOOSE TRACK 9 AND LETS SAY HAVE G01,
>IT CARRIES OUT THE EFFECTS FM B29 COMBI. HOW DO I STOP THAT?
I just tried this, and you're right. The effect settings are copied from
combi B29 to the song. However, the Reference Guide clearly states that
this shouldn't happen, so my only conclusion is that there's a bug in
KORG's operative system for the N!?
Give your N a good whack, and maybe this problem will go away? Hehe. Nah, I
wouldn't recommend that. :)
>KENNETH WILL U HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS gm RESET CODE..
To make it as easy as possible for everybody to use this GM reset code,
I'll write a mail and attach a small playable standard midi file (.mid)
that can be used by everybody.
Oh, by the way, please don't write in CAPITALS, thank you.
On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > At 02:09 1998-02-03 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
> > >>Is this an INS file? when I downloaded it, it came as an EXE file. and
> > >>I tried it, it came out with an error msg saying not a valid windows
> > >>application... Is it a MAC file...
The attachment I decoded was an ins file. I don't know what you people
are doing. :)
> > >
> > >Hmm.. thats very strange. Must be a problem in my file attachment protocals
> > >or something as the file itself is an actual .ins file. If someone will give
> > >me the address to Steve Days ftp site i'll upload it.
I just put a new definition file there. It contains almost everything
and can be imported as an instrument definition file from Cakewalk. I
tested it but I had to remove my previous Korg definitions first.
It contains all the drums sets and drum names as well as all the
controllers defined for the NX64 synths.
ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/korgnx64.zip
Steve
>> > >I DID THIS. FOR EX, I COPIED B29 COMBI TO S7. IT HAS 7 TIMBRES
AND
>> > >IT TAKES ALL TRACKS 1-8. WHEN I CHOOSE TRACK 9 AND LETS SAY HAVE
G01,
>> > >IT CARRIES OUT THE EFFECTS FM B29 COMBI. HOW DO I STOP THAT?
> >
> >I just tried this, and you're right. The effect settings are copied
from
> >combi B29 to the song. However, the Reference Guide clearly states that
> >this shouldn't happen, so my only conclusion is that there's a bug in
> >KORG's operative system for the N!?
> >
> >Give your N a good whack, and maybe this problem will go away? Hehe.
Nah, I
> >wouldn't recommend that. :)
I wonder then, let say if u want to use a combi sound on a normal pop
song using internal or external sequencer, how u go around to do that?
I love some combi sounds in there but I am unable to put it in my
pieces.....which pisses me off....Right now only thing I can think of
for the use of Combis is when u play live which I hardly do. !?!?!?!?!
Any light on this matter fm anybody?
> >Oh, by the way, please don't write in CAPITALS, thank you.
DIDNT do it this time :) I did this last time bcos sometimes it gets
confusing with all previous mail on it. CAPS stands out....
>> >>At 10:04 1998-01-30 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
> >
> >The N5 is basically the nsr5. It has resonance, a bunch of knobs and i believe
> >finally some filters. The board itself looks pretty cool, sort of a cross
> >between a cs1x and the traditional N364/x3. I saw a pic of it on korg japans
> >web site and it looks awesome. sonic state also has a small review of it on
> >their site(no pic tho). www.sonicstate.com to check it out.
I went to check the review. This is what I found different from the N264/364:
* 12 MB of sample ROM (RAM? Probably not...)
* 4 new realtime controller knobs on the front panel:
o Filter cut-off frequency
o Resonance (same as 'color' on the N264/364 I guess?)
o Attack
o Release
* Total amount of instruments: 1049
* Performances: 384
* Audio outs (excluding phones): 2
* Audio ins: 2 (!!)
* Two separate continuous "wheels" for pitch bend and modulation instead of
a joystick
* New front panel look
The new knobs could be nice, but I suspect that those 4 functions can be found
in the performance edit mode of the N264/364 aswell.
12 MB sample memory is 4 MB more than the Nx64, which means more samples to
use. It seems like the NS5R already has all the extra instruments and memory
that the N5 now has? You NS5R users: is that correct?
What puzzles me are those 2 audio INs!?!? Can the N5 be used as an effects
processor for external audio, and can it perhaps sample?? Then there must be
som RAM in it, but I don't think there is.
All in all there seems to be no reason for N264/364 users to upgrade, unless
KORG has hidden some extra special features inside the N5 (like 30 additional
fx processors :).
It seems like the N5 is going to be cheaper than the N364.
Does anybody know why KORG USA hasn't included any information about the N5 on
www.korg.com? I saw somewhere that the N5 was already finished in november
1997, and it can be bought from some music stores (check www.sol.no/procom/ -
a Norweigan shop (Norweigan text)).
Please feel free to add any information I haven't included here!
By the way, I can't find KORG Japan's homepage... What's the address?
here's the korg japan site. the usa site outta be updated. it hasnt
changed since october. except for the fact that they changed the dates
on the special rebate offer for N364.
http://www.korg.co.jp/
Kaliss
> >
> > Does anybody know why KORG USA hasn't included any information about
the N5 on
> > www.korg.com? I saw somewhere that the N5 was already finished in
november
> > 1997, and it can be bought from some music stores (check
www.sol.no/procom/ -
> > a Norweigan shop (Norweigan text)).
> >
> > Please feel free to add any information I haven't included here!
> >
> >
> >
> > By the way, I can't find KORG Japan's homepage... What's the address?
N Users,
I am a newbie N264 user and have been following the dialogue. I have
been attempting to apply information contained in the manuals for this
instrument with mixed results. Very frustrating at times to say the
least but I continue to have various successes.
Several questions I would appreciate answers to if you guys can give me
a hand...
1. Is any one able to get the RPPR files to function in the
machine?
I have been able to use the first several factory patterns but
when I erase the sequencer and start with a clean slate, I can't
seem to get the actual named RPPR files to function. I guess
this may seem elementary but I'm just trying to understand the
function and put it to some use.
2. Am I the only one to have difficulty understanding the manuals
or
are they weak in describing how to use functions?
3. Does the machine sometimes seem to have a mind of its own and do
things which appear to be nowhere close to what is expected? My
frustrations may be part of the problem but I am cureous if
others are having similar problems.
4. And, last but not least, I have a thirty day trial period on
this
instrument which does not expire for several days and I can
return it for a full refund. Is the quality of this instrument
good enough to keep or should I be looking at something else?
One minute I feel real good about it and seem to accomplish a
few
things , and the next minute I feel like it is a real loser!
Maybe I'm the loser because I just haven't spent enough time
with
the silly thing yet. I have tried though and am of the distinct
impression that there may be some problems with the hardware.
Would anyone care to give me some much needed advise? It will really be
appreciated!
Tom
return the fucker!
you can always change your mind and buy it back!
At 01:28 6-2-98 -0800, you wrote:
> >N Users,
> >
> >I am a newbie N264 user and have been following the dialogue. I have
> >been attempting to apply information contained in the manuals for this
> >instrument with mixed results. Very frustrating at times to say the
> >least but I continue to have various successes.
> >
> >Several questions I would appreciate answers to if you guys can give me
> >a hand...
> >
> > 1. Is any one able to get the RPPR files to function in the
> >machine?
> > I have been able to use the first several factory patterns but
> > when I erase the sequencer and start with a clean slate, I can't
> > seem to get the actual named RPPR files to function. I guess
> > this may seem elementary but I'm just trying to understand the
> > function and put it to some use.
> >
> > 2. Am I the only one to have difficulty understanding the manuals
> >or
> > are they weak in describing how to use functions?
> >
> > 3. Does the machine sometimes seem to have a mind of its own and do
> > things which appear to be nowhere close to what is expected? My
> > frustrations may be part of the problem but I am cureous if
> > others are having similar problems.
> >
> > 4. And, last but not least, I have a thirty day trial period on
> >this
> > instrument which does not expire for several days and I can
> > return it for a full refund. Is the quality of this instrument
> > good enough to keep or should I be looking at something else?
> > One minute I feel real good about it and seem to accomplish a
> >few
> > things , and the next minute I feel like it is a real loser!
> > Maybe I'm the loser because I just haven't spent enough time
> >with
> > the silly thing yet. I have tried though and am of the distinct
> > impression that there may be some problems with the hardware.
> >
> >Would anyone care to give me some much needed advise? It will really be
> >appreciated!
> >
> >Tom
> >
1 RPPR files use .SNG files, so when you erase the songs from the
sequencer, you can't
use those patterns anymore.
2 I think the manuals are clear, but I haven't used all options of the
synthesizer. (I have a N264
too)
I have bought my synthesizer for the sounds, not for the sequencer and
other options.
(and there are enough patches in it / on the net, to wait with creating
your own sounds...)
3 Well, the only thing that happens sometimes to my synthesizer is that the
polarity of my damper
pedal is switched. Anybody has the same problems ???
4 Maybe your N264 is faulty. But I must say that I love my N264, and I
don't know much synthesizers
that offer the same sound quality for the money. (maybe the Roland
XP50/XP80, but I think Korg
sounds are much fatter and cooler)
Another (expensive) option is the Korg Trinity, today used in almost all
pop bands.
Which other synthesizers would you have in mind ?
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
The manuals totally suck. I am as frustrated as you are. I thoroughly
enjoy the sounds and live performance, but getting in and mucking with the
thing is a bitch.
HAS ANYONE SEEN ANY MANUALS WRITTEN BY OTHER SOURCES. SOME KIND OF
AFTERMARKET IDIOT'S GUIDES OR SOMETHING. Sorry for shouting, but I am
desperate.
This is a volume machine -- thousands have been sold. There is a publishing
opportunity here, if someone hasn't already done it.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas Barrett [SMTP:*@*.NET]
> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 1998 1:28 AM
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: N Synth Advise Request
> >
> > N Users,
> >
> > I am a newbie N264 user and have been following the dialogue. I have
> > been attempting to apply information contained in the manuals for this
> > instrument with mixed results. Very frustrating at times to say the
> > least but I continue to have various successes.
> >
> > Several questions I would appreciate answers to if you guys can give me
> > a hand...
> >
> > 1. Is any one able to get the RPPR files to function in the
> > machine?
> > I have been able to use the first several factory patterns but
> > when I erase the sequencer and start with a clean slate, I can't
> > seem to get the actual named RPPR files to function. I guess
> > this may seem elementary but I'm just trying to understand the
> > function and put it to some use.
> >
> > 2. Am I the only one to have difficulty understanding the manuals
> > or
> > are they weak in describing how to use functions?
> >
> > 3. Does the machine sometimes seem to have a mind of its own and do
> > things which appear to be nowhere close to what is expected? My
> > frustrations may be part of the problem but I am cureous if
> > others are having similar problems.
> >
> > 4. And, last but not least, I have a thirty day trial period on
> > this
> > instrument which does not expire for several days and I can
> > return it for a full refund. Is the quality of this instrument
> > good enough to keep or should I be looking at something else?
> > One minute I feel real good about it and seem to accomplish a
> > few
> > things , and the next minute I feel like it is a real loser!
> > Maybe I'm the loser because I just haven't spent enough time
> > with
> > the silly thing yet. I have tried though and am of the distinct
> > impression that there may be some problems with the hardware.
> >
> > Would anyone care to give me some much needed advise? It will really be
> > appreciated!
> >
> > Tom
Fedde,
> > 1 RPPR files use .SNG files, so when you erase the songs from the
> > sequencer, you can't use those patterns anymore.
I think I understand what you're saying but aren't they supposed to work
if you load the .pst & .sng files for the RPPR named files? That's what
I've tried to do without success...
> > 3 Well, the only thing that happens sometimes to my synthesizer is that > the polarity of my damper pedal is switched. Anybody has the same
> > problems ???
Yes, I have had the very same problem with my damper pedal on more than
one occassion. I thought that it might have been a reversal switch on
the bottom of the pedal moving against the floor but your experience
makes me feel that it is a malfunction.
> > Which other synthesizers would you have in mind ?
Kurzweil? Ensoniq? I'm not sure. Does anyone know if an Ensoniq ASR10
is any good? How does it compare to the KORG. I've heard that the
technical aspect of the Kurzweil is excellent but the mechanical
soundness leaves a bit to be desired; is that true?
One more question I'd like to ask. Does anyone know a way to save just
one song from the memory to a disk. I'm not talking about a SNG group.
I'm talking about ONE SONG. It seems that one song can be LOADED from
within a .SNG file of songs on a disk but that you can't save just ONE
SONG to a disk with a .SNG extension unless you eraase all of the other
songs which might coexist in memory at the time of the save. Why in the
world would it be engineered that way? Am I missing something?
Thanks,
Tom
>> > > 3 Well, the only thing that happens sometimes to my synthesizer is that > the polarity of my damper pedal is switched. Anybody has the same
>> > > problems ???
> >
> > Yes, I have had the very same problem with my damper pedal on more than
> > one occassion. I thought that it might have been a reversal switch on
> > the bottom of the pedal moving against the floor but your experience
> > makes me feel that it is a malfunction.
Check page 179 of the N364 Reference Guide. The damper pedal polarity
can be set in the global parameters. It doesn't matter what your pedal
does, as long as it is a switch.
> >I think I understand what you're saying but aren't they supposed to work
> >if you load the .pst & .sng files for the RPPR named files? That's what
> >I've tried to do without success...
- Load .pst & .sng files. For example PRELOAD.SNG and PRELOAD.PST (and
PRELOAD.PCG)
- Go to sequencer mode <SEQ>
- Choose song 3, *funk <SONG> <3>
- Enable RPPR mode <CURSOR/PERF EDIT/RPPR>
- Choose pattern set 3 <3>
- Play !
So the only thing you have to do is to choose the right song and the right
(same) pattern number.
> >Yes, I have had the very same problem with my damper pedal on more than
> >one occassion. I thought that it might have been a reversal switch on
> >the bottom of the pedal moving against the floor but your experience
> >makes me feel that it is a malfunction.
Maybe a ROM version upgrade could solve this in the future (???)
>> >> Which other synthesizers would you have in mind ?
> >
> >Kurzweil? Ensoniq? I'm not sure. Does anyone know if an Ensoniq ASR10
> >is any good? How does it compare to the KORG. I've heard that the
> >technical aspect of the Kurzweil is excellent but the mechanical
> >soundness leaves a bit to be desired; is that true?
I don't know synthesizers other then Yamaha, Roland & Korg.
My first synthesizer was a Kawai K1 (yag). A few years later I bought
an Yamaha TG300 module which had nice GM sounds, but no cool synthesizer
sounds. (lead/pads/effects, that sort of stuff)
Since christmas I have an N264, and I like it in almost every aspect.
(keyboard (good responsiveness),the wonderful patches/combinations (!),
playability and design)
So maybe it is caused by the difference with my previous synthesizers, but
I just
can't imagine that you wouldn't be happy with your N264 :-)
> >One more question I'd like to ask. Does anyone know a way to save just
> >one song from the memory to a disk. I'm not talking about a SNG group.
> >I'm talking about ONE SONG. It seems that one song can be LOADED from
> >within a .SNG file of songs on a disk but that you can't save just ONE
> >SONG to a disk with a .SNG extension unless you eraase all of the other
> >songs which might coexist in memory at the time of the save. Why in the
> >world would it be engineered that way? Am I missing something?
You can save one song in the GM format, I guess (save SMF)
But maybe you would lose some information that way...
Another option is to save the song to a new .SNG file, and after that you
could
load the song into another .SNG file. (not very practical, but it works...)
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
Holland
Fedde,
Fedde,
There are more files that I think both of us aren't getting to...
> > - Load .pst & .sng files. For example PRELOAD.SNG and PRELOAD.PST (and
> > PRELOAD.PCG)
> > - Go to sequencer mode <SEQ>
> > - Choose song 3, *funk <SONG> <3>
> > - Enable RPPR mode <CURSOR/PERF EDIT/RPPR>
> > - Choose pattern set 3 <3>
> > - Play !
> >
> > So the only thing you have to do is to choose the right song and the right
> > (same) pattern number.
That's all good but still doesn't get me into the actual RPPR.SNG and
RPPR.PST. I haven't had any problem getting "Funk, 90's Soul, J-Dance,
& Jazz to work but to get the patterns associated with the RPPR files
requires a separate load and I've had a little success tonight with it
though marginal. If you look in the back of the basic guide, there are
five totally different songs and pattern sets. The songs are called,
"Pop Rock, Hard Rock, Latin, 70's disco, and Euro." Have you been able
to get those to work or the patterns to work?
I just want to understand this silly thing and put it to some use if
possible.
> > Maybe a ROM version upgrade could solve this in the future (???)
Does KORG do that? I know that Kurzweil does upgrades with software
over the NET which is really neat but I guess the KORG would have to be
a chip switch eh? Probably expensive just like replacing the battery
when that comes due eh?
> > I just can't imagine that you wouldn't be happy with your N264 :-)
Still no decision made...Exploring and learning it right now. Seems the
learning curve is steep because of manuals which lack depth but pieces
are beginning to fall into place and I've gotten some good stuff goin'
already that I like. Looked at an SG Pro X Controller tonight that I
may opt for and use synth boxes instead; seems that might have more
flex.
Wow, Holland eh? That's cool.
I'm in the San Francisco bay area...If anyone on the list knows any of
these answers please add to this.
C Ya
Tom
At 00:25 1998-02-05 -0800, Hasnat M wrote:
> >I wonder then, let say if u want to use a combi sound on a normal pop
> >song using internal or external sequencer, how u go around to do that?
> >I love some combi sounds in there but I am unable to put it in my
> >pieces.....which pisses me off....Right now only thing I can think of
> >for the use of Combis is when u play live which I hardly do. !?!?!?!?!
> >Any light on this matter fm anybody?
If you want to use a combi in a song from an external sequencer, there are two
solutions:
1. Copy the desired combi to an empty song in the N's internal sequencer, and
then play it from the external sequencer by just sending note data (not
program/bank-change) to the channel that the combi responds to. Then play the
normal programs on track 9-16. This will however only work well with maximally
two combis.
2. Check which programs, volume levels, pans, C/D fx sends etc that the combi
uses. Then create as many tracks in the external sequencer as there are
programs in the combi. Set the program/bank-changes, pans and volume levels
for each track respectively, and put midi control change messages for send C/D
into each of them (midi controller 91 and 93). You will probably have to copy
the notes you want the new 'combi' to play, to each of the new tracks. I
haven't checked how to make all channels of the combi listen to only one
channel yet, but I will as soon as I start using combis this way myself.
To illustrate solution 2, I'll create a small song that sets the N to
sequencer mode song 9 and then plays combi A04 (World Bass from preload.pcg).
I'll add some drums too, to show that it's possible to play other programs on
any track available. The problem is that I can't convert this song to proper
standard midi format, so I won't attach it here. I'll ask somebody else to
convert it for me.
I don't know how to choose effects for the fx processors by sending midi
controller data yet, but I will. For now, make sure that song 9 in the N's
internal sequencer is empty and uses the standard effects settings, if you
want my .mid file to play correctly.
Oh, there is a third solution:
If you have an external sequencer that can record audio samples (and an audio
recording device), you can record the combi when it's playing solo. Then use
it as an audio track along with the normal midi tracks in your sequencer. I do
this, and it works fine. This way, you don't have to worry about fx settings
either.
Please ask if there was something you didn't fully understand. I'm not very
good at explaining you see... ;)
To this mail I have attached a Cubase/Cubasis .all file (combitest.all) that
shows a way to use combis in an external sequencer. Track 1 and 2 contains
combi A04 World Bass, and track 3 plays GM Jazz kit drums.
Now, I need you Cubase/Cubasis people to help me:
Please convert this song to proper standard midi file format (.mid) and send
it to me. I've tried saving this song using "Export MIDI file" in the File
menu of both Cubase Score 3.5 VST and Cubasis Audio 1.6, but when I play the
resulting .mid file from an external midi player (such as the win95 media
player), nothing (program, tempo etc) sounds right except for the notes.
Please help me! It would be great if everybody who uses an external sequencer
(not just us Cubase/Cubasis users) could play this example song!
Thanks!
Deleted: combitest.all
An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were:
Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="combitest.all"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="combitest.all"
Attachments:
Deleted: combitest.all 255 bytes
At 11:59 1998-02-05 -0800, Kaliss Elinon wrote:
> >here's the korg japan site. the usa site outta be updated. it hasnt
> >changed since october. except for the fact that they changed the dates
> >on the special rebate offer for N364.
> >
> >http://www.korg.co.jp/
Thanks for the address!
Though I can understand why nobody ever mentions this site. It's in Japanese
only. Even if I could read 16-bit ASCII, I wouldn't understand a thing. ;)
Let's mail KORG USA and tell them to update their site!
By the way, has anybody heard about the N1, which is the same as the N5 except
for 88 keys?
At 13:52 1998-02-06 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
> >Well, the only thing that happens sometimes to my synthesizer is that the
> >polarity of my damper pedal is switched. Anybody has the same problems???
It happened to me once, but never again. I think it had something to do with a
faulty PCG I downloaded from somewhere.
> >Maybe your N264 is faulty. But I must say that I love my N264, and I
> >don't know much synthesizers that offer the same sound quality for the money.
I think the same. The N264/N364 has so MANY good sounds, and only a few bad
ones. The good/bad ratio is a lot higher than on any other synthesizer I've
ever tried. And that's when using preload.pcg. After substituting a couple of
programs (e.g. a piano or two and some drumsets) the N can be absolutely
brilliant!
At 08:17 1998-02-06 -0800, Mark Hickling wrote:
> >The manuals totally suck. I am as frustrated as you are. I thoroughly
> >enjoy the sounds and live performance, but getting in and mucking with the
> >thing is a bitch.
The real bad part of the manuals is the midi chart in the back of the
Reference Guide, which is unreadable and overcomplex. The other parts of the
manuals are ok though.
I agree that the internal sequencer is very difficult to use if you want to
have total control. Patch programming isn't too difficult though.
> >HAS ANYONE SEEN ANY MANUALS WRITTEN BY OTHER SOURCES. SOME KIND OF
> >AFTERMARKET IDIOT'S GUIDES OR SOMETHING. Sorry for shouting, but I am
> >desperate.
Dunno, but I think not. Ask KORG. A tip is to read the Basic Guide thorougly
before the Reference Guide.
If you're desperate, then feel free to ask any questions and we will try to
answer them. That's what this list is for.
> >This is a volume machine -- thousands have been sold. There is a publishing
> >opportunity here, if someone hasn't already done it.
That's true. If we try to get all N users with email accounts to join this
list, there is good chance that somebody knows if there are any alternative
manuals around.
At 01:28 1998-02-06 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
> > 2. Am I the only one to have difficulty understanding the manuals
> > or are they weak in describing how to use functions?
You'll have to put a bit of effort into reading them carefully. Time
consuming, but I'm sure it pays off.
> > 3. Does the machine sometimes seem to have a mind of its own and do
> > things which appear to be nowhere close to what is expected?
No, not unless you have a faulty N264.
Do you have an example?
> > Is the quality of this instrument
> > good enough to keep or should I be looking at something else?
> > One minute I feel real good about it and seem to accomplish a
> > few
> > things , and the next minute I feel like it is a real loser!
I felt the same in the beginning. But after having had my N364 for 8 months I
wouldn't switch for another.
Though I might buy a virtual-analog synthesizer (such as the Nord Lead) as a
completion, since the N can't actually synthesize sounds (it uses samples).
It is however possible to program patches with fat analog feeling (I've done a
few), and also construct TR-808/909-like drumkits, so the N is quite flexible.
> > I have tried though and am of the distinct
> > impression that there may be some problems with the hardware.
I doubt it, but perhaps there are some hidden flaws I haven't discovered yet?
Kenneth,
> > Do you have an example?
I can't give one right now but most would be involving the sequencer. I
get so frustrated, I cause things to happen trying to correct an error
too quickly sometimes. I guess a class like Self Control 101010101010
might help separate machine vs. man malfunction eh?
Anyway, you're an encouragement and your comments are appreciated!
Still trying to load and explore the possibilities of RPPR.SNG & .PST
though.
C Ya,
Tom
At 13:45 1998-02-06 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
> >One more question I'd like to ask. Does anyone know a way to save just
> >one song from the memory to a disk.
Not possible to save one single song to a SNG file. This is possibly because
KORG didn't want to have two formats of SNG files, one-song and multiple-song.
It COULD be confusing...
But:
Just to check, I saved a song as a format1 SMF (.mid) from disk menu page 5B,
and then loaded it (via page 5A) to an an empty song in the sequencer. It
sounds EXACTLY the same, so there's no apparent loss of information!
Hence the solution of is simple: save in SMF format when you want to save only
one song.
At 12:07 7-2-98 -0800, you wrote:
> >Kenneth,
> >
>> >> Do you have an example?
> >
> >I can't give one right now but most would be involving the sequencer. I
> >get so frustrated, I cause things to happen trying to correct an error
> >too quickly sometimes. I guess a class like Self Control 101010101010
> >might help separate machine vs. man malfunction eh?
> >
> >Anyway, you're an encouragement and your comments are appreciated!
> >Still trying to load and explore the possibilities of RPPR.SNG & .PST
> >though.
This is what you have to do to get the other RPPR patterns:
1. Load RPPR.SNG
<DISK> <CURSOR UP> <CURSOR UP> (1 C,LOAD SONG)
<YES>
press <YES> or <NO> till you find the right file (RPPR.SNG)
<CURSOR RIGHT> <YES>
2. Load RPPR Patternset
<DISK> <CURSOR UP> (1 D,LOAD PSET)
<YES>
choose RPPR
<CURSOR RIGHT <YES>
3. Choose the song number you want
4. Choose the right pattern number
5. Play !
This will work, I guess.
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
Kenneth,
Good stuph.
Thnx guy!
Tom
everytime i go to this website, i get a "forbidden" message. am i the
only one?? or is this guy super constructing his page? or what? just
wondering.
http://www.jtan.com/~john/
-kaliss
Fedde,
On Saturday at 1658 hrs you wrote:
> > This is what you have to do to get the other RPPR patterns:
> >
> > 1. Load RPPR.SNG
> > <DISK> <CURSOR UP> <CURSOR UP> (1 C,LOAD SONG)
> > <YES>
> > press <YES> or <NO> till you find the right file (RPPR.SNG)
> > <CURSOR RIGHT> <YES>
> >
> > 2. Load RPPR Patternset
> > <DISK> <CURSOR UP> (1 D,LOAD PSET)
> > <YES>
> > choose RPPR
> > <CURSOR RIGHT <YES>
> >
> > 3. Choose the song number you want
> > 4. Choose the right pattern number
> > 5. Play !
> >
> > This will work, I guess.
> >
> > Greetz,
> >
> > Fedde Bouwman
I have attempted what you describe with very marginal success. I'm in
the middle of another project right now and using the synth so I can't
try it right now. I can't seem to make sense out of the RPPR chart on
page 66 of the basic guide or the preload chart for that matter. I
can't honestly say that I've spend a whole lot of time on trying to
understand it though. I will have to seriously sit down and study the
charts to understand how to apply it. My frustration seems to be that
when I start to study areas of the manual, it just doesn't seem to work
as expected and I start on a trial and error mission; I've had
remarkable results through the trial and error approach though.
Anyway, thanks for the help Fedde. :)
C Ya,
Tom
Hey techies, can you answer this one?
I am working on a sequencer project where I've got program A98 on
channel one with its effect(s) transferred to the song and a drum track
working on channel 10. I want to use the B71 Hammond sound in one of
the tracks but have run into a problem. When playing the B71 program in
"live" mode, away from the sequencer, I can use the value slider to
emulate the Leslie speaker rotor but in sequencer mode, that function is
lost. Is there any way to have the freedom to switch Leslie on/off
while in sequencer mode and also have the freedom to control speed of
horn revolution as is the case in "live" mode?
Thnx 4 N E Help
Tom
At 12:07 1998-02-07 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
>> >> Do you have an example?
> >
> >I can't give one right now but most would be involving the sequencer.
Oh, I understand. Haven't gone too deep into it, but since it's a whole lot
easier to compose with a computerbased sequencer, I probably won't either.
I use the internal seuqencer of the N only to do quick recordings of something
nice I've come up with when playing. Then I do some quantizing and perhaps
copy parts of a track here and there, but it's very cumbersome, so I prefer
using my PC instead.
> >Anyway, you're an encouragement and your comments are appreciated!
Thanks!
Cheers!
At 03:47 1998-02-07 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
> >Looked at an SG Pro X Controller tonight that I may opt for and use synth
> >boxes instead; seems that might have more flex.
Then you must have a lot of money! :)
And I believe it would be more difficult to use a controller together with
external synth modules than learning the N264/364.
If you have the money, buy a computer and start using a computerbased
sequencer. Atleast it will be a whole lot easier to compose.
At 18:33 1998-02-07 -0800, Kaliss Elinon wrote:
> >everytime i go to this website, i get a "forbidden" message. am i the
> >only one?? or is this guy super constructing his page? or what? just
> >wondering.
> >http://www.jtan.com/~john/
The same happens to me.
A reason why this could be happening is that John has put access restriction
on his home page directory. Perhaps accidentally. Since he himself will be
able to see his homepage, he won't know that others can't. Try find his email
address and send him a mail.
Ofcourse, it could also be that he's doing some major updating, and he doesn't
want to let people in until it's finished.
At 02:25 1998-02-08 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
> >I am working on a sequencer project where I've got program A98 on
> >channel one with its effect(s) transferred to the song and a drum track
> >working on channel 10. I want to use the B71 Hammond sound in one of
> >the tracks but have run into a problem. When playing the B71 program in
> >"live" mode, away from the sequencer, I can use the value slider to
> >emulate the Leslie speaker rotor but in sequencer mode, that function is
> >lost. Is there any way to have the freedom to switch Leslie on/off
> >while in sequencer mode and also have the freedom to control speed of
> >horn revolution as is the case in "live" mode?
You have a double-sided problem here:
1. The N only has two fx processors, so if you want to use the rotary speaker
effect of program B71, you must copy its 1st effect to one of the sequencer
effect settings.
2. When you've done that, you can use the leslie by applying aftertouch to the
keys. But if you want to, you can use the joystick instead (no, it's
unfortunately not possible to use the value slider since it's used for other
things in seq mode). Enter seq edit mode, go to the page where the leslie
effect resides (7A or 7C depending to where you've copied the settings), and
go two pages to the right from there. You can now see Src:xxxxx. Change that
to Src:JS(-Y) or Src:JS(+Y) depending on which direction you want to move the
joystick (up or down).
Cheers!
On Sunday at 0847 Kenneth Jonsson wrote,
> > Then you must have a lot of money! :)
No, just looking for flexibility and quality.
> > If you have the money, buy a computer and start using a computerbased
> > sequencer. At least it will be a whole lot easier to compose.
I think that's exectly where I'm headed.
Thnx,
Tom
On Sunday at 0911 Kenneth Jonsson wrote,
> > You have a double-sided problem here:
> > 1. The N only has two fx processors, so if you want to use the rotary
> > speaker effect of program B71, you must copy its 1st effect to one
> > of the sequencer effect settings.
If I am understanding you correctly, if I already am using a "double"
program in the sequence (as is the case with A98) the only way I would
be able to use the "Leslie" would be to either use a "single" program or
make A98 a single program; is that correct?
> > 2. When you've done that, you can use the leslie by applying aftertouch
> > to the keys. But if you want to, you can use the joystick instead
> > (no, it's unfortunately not possible to use the value slider since
> > it's used for other things in seq mode). Enter seq edit mode, go to
> > the page where the leslie effect resides (7A or 7C depending to
> > where you've copied the settings), and go two pages to the right
> > from there. You can now see Src:xxxxx. Change that to Src:JS(-Y) or
> > Src:JS(+Y) depending on which direction you want to move the
> > joystick (up or down).
I'll give it a go!
Thnx,
Tom
At 13:31 1998-02-08 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
> >If I am understanding you correctly, if I already am using a "double"
> >program in the sequence (as is the case with A98) the only way I would
> >be able to use the "Leslie" would be to either use a "single" program or
> >make A98 a single program; is that correct?
No, you can use double oscillator programs without any problems. I'm talking
about the fx settings. Take a look at page 7A and 7C in edit mode.
Kenneth Jonsson,
I'll try your suggestion tomorrow regarding the fx adjustment to joy
stick but I'd like to ask you, or anyone else who might really be in the
know, a question about computers.
I'm an IBM user from way back but not in music applications. I seem to
be getting the distinct impression that Mac is the only way to go in
music. Is that correct or has IBM caught up as some (though few) seem
to claim. One guy even said that IBM meant "I'm Becoming A Mac."
Anyway, should I be seriously considering Apple despite another learning
curve climb or will IBM do the job as well.
Thnx,
Tom
At 00:22 9-2-98 -0800, you wrote:
> >Kenneth Jonsson,
> >
> >I'll try your suggestion tomorrow regarding the fx adjustment to joy
> >stick but I'd like to ask you, or anyone else who might really be in the
> >know, a question about computers.
> >
> >I'm an IBM user from way back but not in music applications. I seem to
> >be getting the distinct impression that Mac is the only way to go in
> >music. Is that correct or has IBM caught up as some (though few) seem
> >to claim. One guy even said that IBM meant "I'm Becoming A Mac."
> >
> >Anyway, should I be seriously considering Apple despite another learning
> >curve climb or will IBM do the job as well.
> >
> >Thnx,
> >
> >Tom
Apple & music ??????????
The Atari ST used to be the midi computer, but today almost all good music
programs
from the ST have been converted to PC. (Cubase for example)
Furthermore, there a lots of good sound cards to plug in a PC.
(ie Turtle Beach, and synthesizer cards from various manufacturers)
I think that you can buy a PC for a lot less than an Apple, and I think that
it will be good enough for sequencing or even harddisk recording.
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
I just can't resist putting in my 2 cents! o;-)
The debate over PC/Mac is finally dying, but will probably never
completely die. The war bagan when Apple realized that its computer was
not very good at providing business computations. It did, however, have
a pretty cool drawing program that everybody seemed to like. Since IBM
was mainly a business computer, and art was for kids, they did not
pursue the graphic design industy, which was seriously considering the
possibilities of computer design. Apple took hold of the reigns and made
the Mac into a "graphic design powerhouse". They built a HUGE loyalty to
their computer, mainly because most artists did not have any knowledge
of computers, making the make an easy way to still do their jobs.
When IBM realized the huge market (several years to late!), they started
to give options to the graphics industries. Over the years, PCs have
been able to finally "catch up" to the Mac in graphics performance. The
only problem is - Mac users are very dedicated to their machines!
The PC is by cheaper by far, you don't need special harware or expensive
software to run graphics programs, and a host of other benefits.
In your particular situation, the PC is a much better, cheaper option
than the Mac. Software is readily available, and the PC has no fear of
disappearing for quite some time, unlike the Mac. Apple plans on
concentrating on the high-end market (which is mainly for graphics) and
eliminating the consumer market, which would leave you in the cold.
For MIDI sequencing and arranging, you don't need a brand new powerful
computer, you can get a used one for under $800, and it will perform
fine for you. Be wary, however of the fact that most software companies
are not supporting Windows 3.1 anymore, and for that matter many
require at least a Pentium to run their software.
I hope this will help you decide which platform to purchase. Although
both computers have their ups and downs, but the PC is much better
suited for your applications!
Erik
A devoted graphics professional using the PC ;o)
Fedde Bouwman wrote:
> >
> > At 00:22 9-2-98 -0800, you wrote:
>> > >Kenneth Jonsson,
>> > >
>> > >I'll try your suggestion tomorrow regarding the fx adjustment to joy
>> > >stick but I'd like to ask you, or anyone else who might really be in the
>> > >know, a question about computers.
>> > >
>> > >I'm an IBM user from way back but not in music applications. I seem to
>> > >be getting the distinct impression that Mac is the only way to go in
>> > >music. Is that correct or has IBM caught up as some (though few) seem
>> > >to claim. One guy even said that IBM meant "I'm Becoming A Mac."
>> > >
>> > >Anyway, should I be seriously considering Apple despite another learning
>> > >curve climb or will IBM do the job as well.
>> > >
>> > >Thnx,
>> > >
>> > >Tom
> > Apple & music ??????????
> > The Atari ST used to be the midi computer, but today almost all good music
> > programs
> > from the ST have been converted to PC. (Cubase for example)
> > Furthermore, there a lots of good sound cards to plug in a PC.
> > (ie Turtle Beach, and synthesizer cards from various manufacturers)
> > I think that you can buy a PC for a lot less than an Apple, and I think that
> > it will be good enough for sequencing or even harddisk recording.
> >
> > Greetz,
> >
> > Fedde Bouwman
In a message dated 98-02-09 03:24:07 EST, you write:
<< Is that correct or has IBM caught up as some (though few) seem
to claim. >>
look-mac users will tell you mac is the best...ibm users will tell you ibm is
the best...
if you know ibm, then get ibm...youre gonna have to learn your sequencing
program anyway-why bother yourself with more then you need...
At 15:48 1998-02-09 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
> >but today almost all good music programs
>from the ST have been converted to PC. (Cubase for example)
Most (if not all) larger sequencers (e.g. Cubase) exist on the Mac also,
so it's just a matter of taste when it comes to choosing bewteen Mac and PC.
> >I think that you can buy a PC for a lot less than an Apple, and I think that
> >it will be good enough for sequencing or even harddisk recording.
Yes, a PC is generally cheaper.
At 00:22 1998-02-09 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
> >Anyway, should I be seriously considering Apple despite another learning
> >curve climb or will IBM do the job as well.
Doesn't matter which you choose. Both will work well for sequencing purposes.
Kenneth,
You wrote,
> > You have a double-sided problem here:
> >
> > 1. The N only has two fx processors, so if you want to use the rotary speaker
> > effect of program B71, you must copy its 1st effect to one of the sequencer
> > effect settings.
> >
> > 2. When you've done that, you can use the leslie by applying aftertouch to the
> > keys. But if you want to, you can use the joystick instead (no, it's
> > unfortunately not possible to use the value slider since it's used for other
> > things in seq mode). Enter seq edit mode, go to the page where the leslie
> > effect resides (7A or 7C depending to where you've copied the settings), and
> > go two pages to the right from there. You can now see Src:xxxxx. Change that
> > to Src:JS(-Y) or Src:JS(+Y) depending on which direction you want to move the
> > joystick (up or down).
One question before I proceed which may eliminate my need to proceed.
When I copy the Leslie to one of the two FX processors and activate the
rotor am I correct to assume that ALL instruments loaded in that
sequence will have rotor added for that period of time? Can I also
assume that if this is correct, ALL instruments would also have a SLOW
rotor going all the time too? That's not too good! Let's see, how do I
make this glass half full?
Thnx,
Tom
At 10:00 1998-02-09 -0600, Erik Olson wrote:
> >The debate over PC/Mac is finally dying, but will probably never
> >completely die.
Just as a precaution, I need to say this to everybody:
Please don't start a Mac <-> PC fight now. This isn't the right place for
that. You may all write anything you like about computers, but don't start
any arguments.
Oh, and I'm not saying that you're starting a fight, Erik.
At 13:06 1998-02-09 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
> >When I copy the Leslie to one of the two FX processors and activate the
> >rotor am I correct to assume that ALL instruments loaded in that
> >sequence will have rotor added for that period of time?
Yes, but you can eliminate that problem by setting send C or D (depending
on which processor you put the leslie) to 0 for all tracks except the one
that you have the organ on.
Now, if you want to have reverb fx on all instruments (tracks), you must
set the other fx processor to reverb. This means that you can't add e.g. a
guitar instrument that uses the distortion fx, since then you would have
to set both send C AND D to 0 on all instruents which aren't using dist or
leslie to 0. You wouldn't have any reverb at all then, except if you use
an external fx processor ofcourse.
Are you beginning to understand why I want more fx processors in the N? :)
At 23:12 1998-02-09 +0000, Ann Elisabeth Nordbo wrote:
>>>> >>>> What puzzles me are those 2 audio INs!?!?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Simple! You have another keyboard you can let the audio outs from
>>> >>>that board go through your N5, then into your stereo system. Saves
>>> >>>you from buying a line mixer.
>> >>
>> >>But can effects be added? If not, there's not much use of it. A small
>> >>stereo mixer isn't expensive.
> >
> >To you maybe, but for me there is a difference. I have an i5m module
> >that lets me patch through, and I've never even thought about adding
> >effects. I'd think it would be better if it didn't. This only
> >reflects on the intended use of the N5. The Technics K2000 also has
> >this patchtrough. I think it points to the N5 not being meant for the
> >big pros. Can't be sure of that, of course.
I see.
But if the N5 can add effect to the two inputs it would still be a pro
setup. There are a couple of expensive synths which have this feature. The
reason why I think it would be nice, is that it for instance would be
possible to add good-quality reverb to my the output from my soundcard by
sending it through the N5's fx processors. Ok, I've got an on-board DSP on
my soundcard that can add a couple of effects, but its not as good as the
DSP fx processors in the N (and X) family.
Besides, these audio inputs could indicate that the N5 can sample sound.
If that's the case, I'd probably switch to an N5 rather quickly, depending
on the amount of available RAM it would have.
> >Don't have a small mixer, unfortunately. Also
> >remember that mixers have problems with sound. Small inexpensive
> >mixers sound shit! Chief reason why I don't have one. Good ears,
> >but don't want to shell out.
I've got a quite inexpensive (less than a tenth of the N364 price) stereo
mixer with 4 stereo inputs - the M4-S from Bespeco. Very few components -
only level sliders and an amplified mix + a peak indicator. Nevertheless,
the amount of distortion it adds to the mix is not hearable at all. Only
when I put my amp and the mixer's master level to the absolute maximum
volume, some distortion hiss can be heard. Even the store keeper was
surprised.
My Soundblaster AWE64 Gold soundcard has a LOT more hiss.
I can promise you that not every inexpensive mixer is bad, eventhough
perhaps many are.
excuse me if this is a dumb question, but how do i get the leslie
effect? thanx
kaliss
Kaliss,
You wrote,
> > excuse me if this is a dumb question, but how do i get the leslie
> > effect? thanx
> > kaliss
The only dumb question is the unasked one! I'm new at this too but am
gleaning much needed help from those who have gone before me. Hang in
there!
Some of the sounds already have the controller set to value slider (just
left of the LCD screen) for the Leslie. You can experiment to see which
ones but for starters, switch to Program B71-Super BX-3 and bring the
slider all the way to the bottom. Play a note or chord and begin
sliding the slider up slowly. You are now activating the Leslie and
have, for the most part, significantly more control over this effect
than what is available through the traditional Leslie from what I can
see. It's pretty neat!
>From Kenneth Jonsson's response to the N-Users Group and me, I attach
the following regarding Leslie FX used in sequencer mode. I actually
got it to work today and felt a "light go on!" Thanks Kenneth! And yes
I do understand why more FX are needed in the N! But at least my cup's
half full now... :-)))
The remainder was posted by Kenneth:
You have a double-sided problem here:
1. The N only has two fx processors, so if you want to use the rotary
speaker
effect of program B71, you must copy its 1st effect to one of the
sequencer
effect settings.
2. When you've done that, you can use the leslie by applying aftertouch
to the
keys. But if you want to, you can use the joystick instead (no, it's
unfortunately not possible to use the value slider since it's used for
other
things in seq mode). Enter seq edit mode, go to the page where the
leslie
effect resides (7A or 7C depending to where you've copied the settings),
and
go two pages to the right from there. You can now see Src:xxxxx. Change
that
to Src:JS(-Y) or Src:JS(+Y) depending on which direction you want to
move the
joystick (up or down).
Well, that's about it Kaliss. Good luck!
Tom
At 08.17 06/02/98 -0800, Mark Hickling wrote:
> >The manuals totally suck. I am as frustrated as you are. I thoroughly
> >enjoy the sounds and live performance, but getting in and mucking with the
> >thing is a bitch.
> >
> >HAS ANYONE SEEN ANY MANUALS WRITTEN BY OTHER SOURCES. SOME KIND OF
> >AFTERMARKET IDIOT'S GUIDES OR SOMETHING. Sorry for shouting, but I am
> >desperate.
> >
Hi, I've the Italian version of the manuals, and they are very understable.
If you have any question on how to make something with the N, feel free to
ask me.
Even if my English is not very good I hope I may help you.
Bye
Francesco
Kenneth,
I use both the Mac and PC at my job, and both of them have their ups and
downs. I am not trying to start a fight. I know how absurd the subject
is! In my opinion, whatever gets the job done for YOU, is the best
machine.
I simply was trying to state the fact that PCs are much cheaper than a
Mac (typically), and wanted to destroy the myth that one computer is
better than the other. That's not my intention at all! o:-)
I hope no one took it that way!
Erik
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >
> > At 10:00 1998-02-09 -0600, Erik Olson wrote:
> >
>> > >The debate over PC/Mac is finally dying, but will probably never
>> > >completely die.
> >
> > Just as a precaution, I need to say this to everybody:
> >
> > Please don't start a Mac <-> PC fight now. This isn't the right place for
> > that. You may all write anything you like about computers, but don't start
> > any arguments.
> >
> > Oh, and I'm not saying that you're starting a fight, Erik.
Hi!
I hope I can explain how does RPPR works one time to all.
I will use the RPPR set that korg give with the keyboard:
1) Load RPPR.SNG (this file contains for every songs the right
track-channel-sound combination for the associated RPPR set)
2) Load RPPR.PST (this file contains the information on the note that every
pattern will play and the association with the track of the song)
3) in SEQ mode use the page 9 to select the song you want to play, e.g. POP ROCK
4) Now press the upper cursor (PERF EDIT/RPPR)
5) Now use the value key to choese the right pattern set, in this case PS0:
Pop Rock
6) Play
Note that if you use for example the Hard Rock song with the Pop Rock
pattern set you may have that the drums play with a piano sound 'cause the
song is not rightly configured for this pattern set.
I hope now will works.
Sorry for my English :-))
P.S : About the damper pedal: is not a software bug of the N. This happen
because when you load a new PCG file you load also the Global setting saved
with the file, so also the configuration of the damper polarity. For example
if you have a damper with + polarity and you load a PCG file made by people
who had a - damper polarity your setting will change.
Looks like the italian ref. guide realy IS better.
thanx
-Toon
Hi,
Sergio Lodi wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> > I hope I can explain how does RPPR works one time to all.
> > I will use the RPPR set that korg give with the keyboard:
> >
> > 1) Load RPPR.SNG (this file contains for every songs the right
> > track-channel-sound combination for the associated RPPR set)
> >
> > 2) Load RPPR.PST (this file contains the information on the note that every
> > pattern will play and the association with the track of the song)
> >
> > 3) in SEQ mode use the page 9 to select the song you want to play, e.g. POP ROCK
> >
> > 4) Now press the upper cursor (PERF EDIT/RPPR)
> >
> > 5) Now use the value key to choese the right pattern set, in this case PS0:
> > Pop Rock
> >
> > 6) Play
> >
> > Note that if you use for example the Hard Rock song with the Pop Rock
> > pattern set you may have that the drums play with a piano sound 'cause the
> > song is not rightly configured for this pattern set.
> >
> > I hope now will works.
> > Sorry for my English :-))
> >
> > P.S : About the damper pedal: is not a software bug of the N. This happen
> > because when you load a new PCG file you load also the Global setting saved
> > with the file, so also the configuration of the damper polarity. For example
> > if you have a damper with + polarity and you load a PCG file made by people
> > who had a - damper polarity your setting will change.
Thanks Sergio! I'll try it again. I thought I had done it like that
but I think maybe I tried to match pattern with song number which may
have been the problem.
Do you live in Italy? My wife & I love Italy!
Cappucino....prego,prgeo.. :)
C Yah,
Tom
Toon Theuwis wrote:
> >
> > Looks like the italian ref. guide realy IS better.
> >
> > thanx
> >
> > -Toon
Well put!!
Tom
At 16:30 1998-02-09 -0800, Kaliss Elinon wrote:
> >excuse me if this is a dumb question, but how do i get the leslie
> >effect? thanx
Oh, well, the effect isn't named leslie, but "rotary speaker". Another
name for the same effect. It's effect number 34 (and 47).
ok i get it now. thanx fer answerin.
kaliss
---Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE> wrote:
> >
> > At 16:30 1998-02-09 -0800, Kaliss Elinon wrote:
> >
>> > >excuse me if this is a dumb question, but how do i get the leslie
>> > >effect? thanx
> >
> > Oh, well, the effect isn't named leslie, but "rotary speaker". Another
> > name for the same effect. It's effect number 34 (and 47).
Is it just me or does this bode ill for us Nx64 users? Is this thing I paid
so dearly for going to go the way of the T series?
I love my keyboard but I was disappointed with so much on it; I even wrote
Korg USA about my gripes (I was very curteous about it), but my letter was
promptly and expediently ignored. So if no one minds here, can I share my
tribulations with you?
First of all, I hope that this upgrade business that some people are
mentioning is not a fantasy but a real possibility. More fx would be nice,
but resonant filters would be much nicer. What is this "color" parameter? I
have cranked it before and I don't hear but minute difference in the sound.
What does Korg have against resonance? Maybe my analog synth has me spoiled,
but even my old Kawai K4 had some rockin filters on it.
The other bone I have to pick is this arpeggiator. Useless. Absolutely
Useless (except, of course, to annoy my bandmates with). O sure; you can do
all kinds of neat patterns, latch it, sync it, gate it, etc, etc, etc, but,
uh.......tempo? c'mon!!!
(drummer): "What's the tempo on that arpeggiator there?"
(Keyboardist with N364): "Ummmm....67"
(drummer): "67 beats per minute???"
Keyboardist with N364): "No...ummm...just "67"! You know..."
Did it ever occur to Korg that we might want to know the tempo of the notes
spewing out of our synths? Maybe we'd like to sync it to the sequencer? Am I
crazy here? I hope not!
Well the one redeeming thing about this 'board is that she sounds AWESOME. I
can't argue with that. Anyone got a good violin patch, though? the GM patch
sounds like a dx21 played through a blown speaker.
Anyway, if any upgrade is possible, there's my wishlist. I have a bad feeling
though, that the trinity, z1, and n5 are going to send our beautiful little
Nx64s off to pasture.
:-(
Hi all,
there seem to be a bit of misunderstanding of what this list is about,
probably caused by the name of the list.
When Kenneth and I started this list, we had the intention of having an
unmoderated list about the N-series Synthesizers, the N364/N264. However
probably due to the name of the list N-list some people think it's also
about the N5SR or maybe in the feature the N1 and N5. This was not our
intention to do so. But if you people want we also can include those
Synths in this list.
Hmm.. we should make some decisions about the list, I have a few options
I'm thinking about...
1. Change the name of the list, so that we can specifically address the
Nx64 synths...
2. Split up the lists (can't do that much more, due to the current
restrictions
in the light version of this listserver). I'm not feeling much for this
one, sorry folks..
3. Keep this list and also discuss problems/thingies about the N5SR and
other N-synths.
In this case you could start the subject line with the name of the synth
you are
referring to in your mail.. like: Subject: Nx64: Help!!! or something
like this...
I would go for option 3, however (duh, I'm starting to sound like Tuvok)
I'm VERY open
for other suggestions, please mail me, Kenneth or Both or this list with
your suggestions.
The number of people on this list is growing and I don't want to have more
people screaming
and running away because of the mass overdose of Nx64 discussions...
Let me know what you think about this...
Greetz from da Netherlands,
Hero Idema (list owner, together with Kenneth ofcouse.. :)
Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services
*@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl
+31-(0)79-* *@*.nl
Well spoken !!!
The ARP is indeed a pain in the ***. I think the steps/units in the
parameters should be changed. Sometimes it is 15, another time in is 100,
or 99 or God only knows what. I ask the Korg engineers: 'How the F*** do
we synchronize, or add the same amount of effect with these different kind
of parameters? HUH? C'mon. GET A LIFE!
-Toon
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Alan Moore wrote:
> > Is it just me or does this bode ill for us Nx64 users? Is this thing I paid
> > so dearly for going to go the way of the T series?
> > I love my keyboard but I was disappointed with so much on it; I even wrote
> > Korg USA about my gripes (I was very curteous about it), but my letter was
> > promptly and expediently ignored. So if no one minds here, can I share my
> > tribulations with you?
> > First of all, I hope that this upgrade business that some people are
> > mentioning is not a fantasy but a real possibility. More fx would be nice,
> > but resonant filters would be much nicer. What is this "color" parameter? I
> > have cranked it before and I don't hear but minute difference in the sound.
> > What does Korg have against resonance? Maybe my analog synth has me spoiled,
> > but even my old Kawai K4 had some rockin filters on it.
> > The other bone I have to pick is this arpeggiator. Useless. Absolutely
> > Useless (except, of course, to annoy my bandmates with). O sure; you can do
> > all kinds of neat patterns, latch it, sync it, gate it, etc, etc, etc, but,
> > uh.......tempo? c'mon!!!
> > (drummer): "What's the tempo on that arpeggiator there?"
> > (Keyboardist with N364): "Ummmm....67"
> > (drummer): "67 beats per minute???"
> > Keyboardist with N364): "No...ummm...just "67"! You know..."
> > Did it ever occur to Korg that we might want to know the tempo of the notes
> > spewing out of our synths? Maybe we'd like to sync it to the sequencer? Am I
> > crazy here? I hope not!
> > Well the one redeeming thing about this 'board is that she sounds AWESOME. I
> > can't argue with that. Anyone got a good violin patch, though? the GM patch
> > sounds like a dx21 played through a blown speaker.
> > Anyway, if any upgrade is possible, there's my wishlist. I have a bad feeling
> > though, that the trinity, z1, and n5 are going to send our beautiful little
> > Nx64s off to pasture.
> > :-(
> >
I think this should stay a forum only for N264/364 users
-Toon
N1/N5
Hi everyone,
For those who are interested, here is a quote on N1/N5's feature list and specs from Korg Proview issue 11 which I recieved in the mail today.
Sound Generation method: AI2 Synthesis System (Full Digital Processing); 64 voices (single mode), 32 voices (double mode); Waveform Memory: N5 - PCM 12 Mbytes (528 multisamples + 286 drum samples), N1 - PCM 18 Mbytes (563 multisamples + 286 drum samples); Effects: 2 digital multi-effect system, 48 effects; Programs: Preset 1,169 programs /302 combinations / 37 drum kits, User area 100 programs / 100 combinations / 2 drum kits; Arpeggiator: 20 patterns, Internal clock speed 40-240 bpm; Number of Multi Timbre: 32; Communication Terminal: Computer interface (to host PC); Outputs: L/MONO, R, Headphones (Stereo mini jack); MIDI: IN, OUT, THRU; Display: Custom LCD 144 x 40 full dot matrix (Amber/Yellow green with backlight).
...The internal preset area contains 1,169 sound programs which include a full GM sound set...The user area lets you store 100 sound programs and 100 combinations, putting a mammoth total of 1,269 programs and 402 combinations at your fingertips.
...The front panel provides four knobs for dynamic, analog-style control in realtime - VDFA Attack/Release Times, VDF Cutoff, and Effect Dynamic Modulation. You can also choose from twelve other parameters for assignment to these knobs, letting you control a total of sixteen different parameters...There are dedicated front panel switches for portamento and to layer or split programs and combinations. These settings can be stored in internal memory as one of 32 "performances", so that sound setting can be recalled instantly while you play. A MIDI START/STOP switch is also provided for easy control of an external sequencer.
...The N1/N5's arpeggiator can be synchronized with an external sequencer...you can choose the area of the keyboard (Lower, Upper, All) which will play an arpeggio...
...The N1/N5 features a 144 x 40 pixel full-graphic backlit LCD that can be switched between amber or green. LFO waveforms, bar graphs, pan, level, keyboard diagrams and more are displayed visually allowing for exceptionally easy sound editing. Plus, in the Performance mode 16 types of icons provide instant visual confirmation of the functions of the N1/N5's controller knobs.
...The N1/N5 provides GM, GS and XG-compatible sound maps, allowing it to play back all types of commercially available MIDI file data.
End of quote.
Note: The article says nothing about an internal sequencer or inputs of any kind, so, I guess, it would be safe to assume that N1/N5 just don't posses any of those features.
Dmitry
> >
> >I think this should stay a forum only for N264/364 users
> >
> >
> >-Toon
> >
I agree, 'cause otherwise, it will just get too crowded I mean too many
msgs will get in here that Nx64 ppl may not need... :) But I guess it
depends on all members agrees upon...
--Hasnat
In a message dated 98-02-11 19:57:02 EST, you write:
<< I think this should stay a forum only for N264/364 users
>
>
>-Toon >>
i also agree...
At 11:39 1998-02-11 +0100, Hero Idema wrote:
> >3. Keep this list and also discuss problems/thingies about the N5SR and
> > other N-synths.
I think that's a good idea. It can't hurt us Nx64 users to read about the
NS5R and N1/N5.
It won't be too hard to simply delete a mail that doesn't interest you.
I don't think flooding will be an issue. But if it is, the list can
ofcourse be limited to Nx64 only.
At 19:16 1998-02-11 -0400, Dmitry wrote:
> >For those who are interested, here is a quote on N1/N5's feature list and
specs >from Korg Proview issue 11 which I recieved in the mail today.
Thanks a lot! Keep this kind of information coming!
I'll do some commenting on the features, to compare with the Nx64:
>Sound Generation method: AI2 Synthesis System (Full Digital Processing)
Same as Nx64.
>64 voices (single mode), 32 voices (double mode)
Same.
>Waveform Memory: N5 - PCM 12 Mbytes (528 multisamples + 286 drum samples)
> N1 - PCM 18 Mbytes (563 >multisamples + 286 drum samples)
The N5 has the same samples as the NS5R (?). The N1 probably has the same
samples as the NS5R + an additional 6 MB of piano samples??
The Nx64 has 8 Mbytes PCM (430 multisamples + 215 drum samples).
>Effects: 2 digital multi-effect system, 48 effects
Same as Nx64, except for 1 extra effect (unless it's a typo). The Nx64 has
47 effects.
>Programs: Preset 1,169 programs / 302 combinations / 37 drum kits
User area 100 programs / 100 combinations / 2 drum kits
Nx64: Preset 236 programs (prog bank C & D + 136 GM) / 200 combis (combi bank
C & D) / 12 drum kits (C1, C2, D1, D2, R1-R8)
User 200 programs (prog bank A & B) / 200 combis (combi bank A & B)
/ 4 drum kits (A1, A2, B1, B2)
Total 436 programs / 400 combis / 16 drum kits
Does the N5 really have 1169 preset programs?????
>Arpeggiator: 20 patterns
Nx64 has 5.
> >Internal clock speed 40-240 bpm
Same.
>Number of Multi Timbre: 32
I wonder what that means? ;)
>Communication Terminal: Computer interface (to host PC)
What is a "to host" interface and what is it used for? Please fell me in.
>Outputs: L/MONO, R, Headphones (Stereo mini jack)
Nx64 has the additional outputs 3 and 4.
>MIDI: IN, OUT, THRU
Same.
> >The front panel provides four knobs for dynamic, analog-style control in
> >realtime - VDFA Attack/Release Times, VDF Cutoff, and Effect Dynamic
> >Modulation. You can also choose from twelve other parameters for assignment
> >to these knobs, letting you control a total of sixteen different
> >parameters...
Interesting, eventhough I suspect that the dynamic modulation is more or
less the same as the performance edit mode on the Nx64. Having knob-control
instead of arrow up/down is a good idea.
> >There are dedicated front panel switches for portamento and to
> >layer or split programs and combinations. These settings can be stored in
> >internal memory as one of 32 "performances", so that sound setting can be
> >recalled instantly while you play.
A traditional split would be great to have. Using splits on the Nx64 is
really a pain in the butt.
> >A MIDI START/STOP switch is also provided for easy control of an external
> >sequencer.
Same as the start/stop on the Nx64. I'm sure that the Nx64 has better
abilities to control an external sequencer. For instance, it's possible to
control measure number on an external sequencer from the Nx64 (if the
external sequencer is synchronised to the midi clock of the Nx64).
> >...The N1/N5's arpeggiator can be synchronized with an external sequencer..
> >you can choose the area of the keyboard (Lower, Upper, All) which will play
> >an arpeggio...
This must be interesting for some of the people on this list. :)
> >The N1/N5 features a 144 x 40 pixel full-graphic backlit LCD that can be
> >switched between amber or green. LFO waveforms, bar graphs, pan, level,
> >keyboard diagrams and more are displayed visually allowing for exceptionally
> >easy sound editing. Plus, in the Performance mode 16 types of icons provide
> >instant visual confirmation of the functions of the N1/N5's controller knobs.
This sounds very interesting. A graphical user interface is very welcome.
Too bad it wasn't included in the Nx64.
> >The N1/N5 provides GM, GS and XG-compatible sound maps, allowing it to play
> >back all types of commercially available MIDI file data.
So KORG have started using the midi standards from their competitors Roland
and Yamaha? :)
> >Note: The article says nothing about an internal sequencer or inputs of
any >kind, so, I guess, it would be safe to assume that N1/N5 just don't
posses any >of those features.
There's the reason why the N1/N5 is inexpensive. Is there a disk drive? Not
that such a device is expensive, but the N1/N5 would suck if it didn't have
one.
And, how to use multi-instrument mode on the N1/N5? Since it has no
internal sequencer it must have some kind of status window which shows
current program parameters?
At 23:30 1998-02-10 -0500, Alan Moore wrote:
> >Is it just me or does this bode ill for us Nx64 users?
The new N1 & N5 have had improvements, but they also lack some (important)
stuff. Like having only 100 prog + 100 combi settings that are changeable,
and not having the two extra sound oputputs (3 & 4). Also there is no
sequencer (but since the sequencer of the Nx64 is so cumbersome to use,
that might not be too bad after all :) ).
> >I even wrote Korg USA about my gripes (I was very curteous about it), but my
> >letter was promptly and expediently ignored.
Larger companies tend not to give a shit when somebody is complaining.
That's too bad...
> >First of all, I hope that this upgrade business that some people are
> >mentioning is not a fantasy but a real possibility. More fx would be nice
I'm afraid they're just fantasies. Ok, it's not impossible to switch ROM
chips (or atleast it shoudln't be), but adding more fx processors is more
or less a dream only. The fx processors are DSP's (Digital Signal
Processor), which are hardware circuits, so it would be necessary to put
some kind of extension chip/board directly into the Nx64. Even if that were
possible, the operating system (and all the other circuits for that matter)
doesn't handle more than two processors, so everything would need to be
expanded/modified. I doubt it if KORG would embark on such a project...
If the Nx64 had slots for expansion boards inside (which it doesn't), and
it was prepared for more fx processors, then it wouldn't be a problem.
Unfortunately the Nx64 isn't expandable in any way at all. This was one of
the things that made me hesitate when I bought my N364, but since it sounds
so great I bought it anyway.
> >What is this "color" parameter? I
> >have cranked it before and I don't hear but minute difference in the sound.
> >What does Korg have against resonance? Maybe my analog synth has me spoiled,
> >but even my old Kawai K4 had some rockin filters on it.
To be honest, I don't have a clue what "color" really does. I've been
cranking it around a lot, but I can't hear any difference. I'll do a deep
dive into the Reference Guide later, to see if there's some hidden info on
how to use it.
I agree that the cut-off filter isn't by far good enough. Resonant filters
would make a great addition....
> >The other bone I have to pick is this arpeggiator. Useless.
More or less, yes.
> >Well the one redeeming thing about this 'board is that she sounds AWESOME. I
> >can't argue with that.
Neither can I. Especially after modifying some of the programs in bank A.
> >Anyone got a good violin patch, though? the GM patch sounds like a dx21
> >played through a blown speaker.
Hehe. Good description.
Well, I don't think I've ever heard a good violin patch on any
synth/keyboard/workstation. A single violin is very hard to immitate, and
using a sample isn't by far good enough. Physical modelling techniques
might do a good job, but the Nx64 isn't a virtual-analog synthesizer. :)
> >I have a bad feeling though, that the trinity, z1, and n5 are going to send
> >our beautiful little Nx64s off to pasture.
The Trinity is getting old, and only has 32 voice polyphony. Also still
expensive.
The Z1 is in a totally different category.
The N1/N5 are a "threat" though, especially since they seems to be cheap.
I've tried cranking the filter "color" setting (prog edit page 3A & 3C as
far right as possible) on several programs with cut-off, but I just can't
hear ANY difference in the sound.
When reading the Reference Guide, it says that color adds character to a
sound by boosting the levels near the cut-off filter edge. I.e. some kind
of resonance.
Ok, I got to admit that somtimes I can hear something when I put Int=99.
Some notes will produce a barely hearable extremely high-pitched (my guess
is that it's close to 17 or 18 kHz) noise when using Int=99. I'm pretty
sure this isn't what "color" is supposed to do....
Does anybody else have the same problem?
If so, let me know, and I'll contact KORG support and ask them.
Hi,
I would prefer to see just N2/364 users responding to this list because
the specificity is directly applicable to the instrument I have. That
may seem a bit selfish but a N264/364 users list was what I thought I
was joining. I think if I had another synth, I'd try to find something
more specific because the majority of people here will be speaking from
the N264/364 perspective. It really is nice to be able to have someone
say something like, "...press edit, then up twice, right once, yes.etc.,
etc.,..." and that specific stuff more often than not will be directly
related to either 264 or 364 users.
Tom
Hi,
Well, I finally got a project done on the sequencer and it turned out
pretty well despite the sequencer's shortcomings. One question really
perplexes me though. I went to the keyboard today and went into the
sequencer. I then selected the song number under which the project had
been sequenced and played it. In about the 5th measure, the sustain
pedal locked in the on position and I stopped the sequence. I hit the
reset button and began song again. Same thing...really strange. So, I
went to the next obvious "diagnostic" step and turned the machine off &
then on again. Then I repeated EXACTLY what I had done the first time
and the sequence played just fine. I am beginning to think with that
kind of reliability who needs enemies.
Has anyone seen any similars lurking in the sequencer? I guess I'll be
working from a computer screen in the near future but I prefer real time
right at the keyboard... :-(
Tom
At 12:05 1998-02-12 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
> >I would prefer to see just N2/364 users responding to this list because
> >the specificity is directly applicable to the instrument I have. That
> >may seem a bit selfish but a N264/364 users list was what I thought I
> >was joining. I think if I had another synth, I'd try to find something
> >more specific because the majority of people here will be speaking from
> >the N264/364 perspective. It really is nice to be able to have someone
> >say something like, "...press edit, then up twice, right once, yes.etc.,
> >etc.,..." and that specific stuff more often than not will be directly
> >related to either 264 or 364 users.
Well, since none of the current members on this list seem to have something
else than an Nx64 (based upon the fact that none of them have written
anything about this matter), it's more or less settled.
Though I still think we should keep it open. I want to hear news about new
N-series products. Let's not create a chinese wall.
NS5R users, speak up! Do you want to have the NS5R included in this mailing
list?
Ken,
No wall at all. As a matter of fact, after thinking a bit after sending
the last, I pretty much came to the conclusion that those non N_64
documents can either be retained or erased depending on the reader's
needs.
It really doesn't matter to me anyway; I'm happy to have any forum at
all. Couldn't do this stuff not too long ago. Computers have come a
long way!
Tom
Hello N info seeker,
Can any body explain to me a bit abt the .sng file. I mean what is
the difference between a .mid file and .sng file ? I mean can save a
song to a disk as mid file or sng file..
Hasnat
In a message dated 98-02-12 15:08:09 EST, you write:
<< Hi,
I would prefer to see just N2/364 users responding to this list because
the specificity is directly applicable to the instrument I have. That
may seem a bit selfish but a N264/364 users list was what I thought I
was joining. I think if I had another synth, I'd try to find something
more specific because the majority of people here will be speaking from
the N264/364 perspective. It really is nice to be able to have someone
say something like, "...press edit, then up twice, right once, yes.etc.,
etc.,..." and that specific stuff more often than not will be directly
related to either 264 or 364 users.
Tom >>
again, i agree!
At 13:26 12/02/98 -0800, you wrote:
> >Has anyone seen any similars lurking in the sequencer? I guess I'll be
> >working from a computer screen in the near future but I prefer real time
> >right at the keyboard... :-(
> >
> >Tom
Ive had a few problems myself with the n's sequencer. For some freak reason
or another it loves to lock up on me so that i cant change channels or
paremeters. This usually happens when Im adjusting the c/d send's, and it
happens very frequently. I have to turn it off and then back on to reset
everything. Ive talked with other people who've had this same problem aswell
and it turns out that the first batch of n364's that shipped to north america
had a defective chip in them(at least thats what Ive been told). I believe
Korg will replace it for free but ive yet to contact them. Think I might soon
tho as my warenty expires in september:)
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
Steve
You wrote,
> > Ive had a few problems myself with the n's sequencer. For some freak
> > reason or another it loves to lock up on me so that i cant change
> > channels or paremeters. This usually happens when Im adjusting the c/d
> > send's, and it happens very frequently. I have to turn it off and then
> > back on to reset everything. Ive talked with other people who've had
> > this same problem as well and it turns out that the first batch of
> > n364's that shipped to north america had a defective chip in them(at
> > least thats what Ive been told). I believe Korg will replace it for
> > free but ive yet to contact them. Think I might soon tho as my warenty
> > expires in september:)
> > Steve Wallis
> > *@*.net
Hey Steve,
I have a 264 but think that this unit may also have the chip problem you
describe. I have a 30 day money back return policy which runs out in a
couple of days but have pretty much decided to keep the 264. Do you
happen to know if 264s are said by Korg to have been shipped also with
defective chips? How does one tell if theirs is defective? Can one
tell by serial numbers or manufacture date? I appreciate your taking
the time to answer my note and I'll be looking for more info on the chip
stuff.
Hey Kenneth, do you know anything about the defective chip...?
I just can't bring myself to return this thing for a refund. There
really are a bunch of awesome sounds for a rather low price. I just
hope it can be used reliably. I dread trying to use the sequencer in a
critical moment and have it lock up on me! I know, I know, use a
computer... : )
The sequence I just finished is for a wedding and uses lots of horns,
strings, various keyboards, percussion, etc., etc. I think 14 of the 16
tracks have been used and I just can't imagine after all the work having
the stupid thing lock up on me. Do you think I should I just tape the
sequence rather than directly doing the sequence at the wedding?
Thanks for all the input guys and if I get too long winded, please tell
me.
Tom
I've had my n364 for a couple of months -- chose it due to great price/sound
ratio. Definitely the most confusing board i've ever used. The sequencer is
virtually unusable (userfiendly).
I just got an AVM apex card (bundled with cakewalk) and was having some
problems getting n364 to perform correctly. I called AVM and their tech rep
was a great help, but the most important thing to my getting the setup to work
well was the instrument definitions i downloaded from the ftp sight.
I've been sitting on the sidelines reading all the messages being sent via the
n-list
I just wanted to take the time to say thank you to all of you who know what
your doing from all of us (me) who don't.
whatever happens with future korg products we need to keep the integrity of
this list and it's information.
peace, jeff
I would definitely agree with Jeff. I have been silent on the list, as I'm not a synth user (predominantly a guitarist), and really not knowledgeable on how to use the N364 yet. This list has been incredibly valuable to me in gaining some of that knowledge. Thank you to all for your questions, answers, and insights.
Thanks again,
Todd Ridner
*@*.com on 02/13/98 04:17:00 PM
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.*@*
cc: (bcc: Todd Ridner/NCS/Dana)
Subject: n-list is great
I've had my n364 for a couple of months -- chose it due to great price/sound
ratio. Definitely the most confusing board i've ever used. The sequencer is
virtually unusable (userfiendly).
I just got an AVM apex card (bundled with cakewalk) and was having some
problems getting n364 to perform correctly. I called AVM and their tech rep
was a great help, but the most important thing to my getting the setup to work
well was the instrument definitions i downloaded from the ftp sight.
I've been sitting on the sidelines reading all the messages being sent via the
n-list
I just wanted to take the time to say thank you to all of you who know what
your doing from all of us (me) who don't.
whatever happens with future korg products we need to keep the integrity of
this list and it's information.
peace, jeff
Hi,
I enjoy reading the Nx64 mail but I'm just getting too far behind and am
unable to continue reading it.
At least for now, please take me off the mail list.
Thanks,
Greg Menken
At 15:43 13/02/98 EST, you wrote:
> >I've had my n364 for a couple of months -- chose it due to great price/sound
> >ratio. Definitely the most confusing board i've ever used. The sequencer is
> >virtually unusable (userfiendly).
I thought the same thing at first until I started getting into it. Now I
use the N364 for all my sequencing. The pattern recording feature's is
phenominal-its makes sequencing a breeze. I find the sequencer to be
extremely user friendly-even more so than cakewalk. The only thing I wish Korg
would incorparate into it is true time stretching. I think time stecthing and
a GUI are the only things cakewalk have over the n's sequencer(aside from audio
of coarse).
Steve Wallis wrote:
> > Now I use the N364 for all my sequencing. The pattern recording
> > feature's is phenominal-its makes sequencing a breeze. I find the
> > sequencer to be extremely user friendly-even more so than cakewalk.
Hey Steve,
I too am getting better at the sequencer but still have not received any
solid input into a problem experienced. Long story short, I did a
sequence, played it the following day, and all of a sudden, the damper
pedal stuck. I turned the sequencer off and pressed the reset button
but the same thing happened a second time. I then turned the synth off
completely and restarted it. This time, with no changes made to the
sequence, it played just fine. The problem repeated itself today with
an entirely different sequence downloaded from the net in MID form which
I tweaked a bit and have played many times without problem.
One person on the forum suggested that I might have one of the "bad
chips" but according to a KORG representative, the bad chip story isn't
true. After looking at my situation a bit, he suggested that I take it
to an authorized repair station for a checkup to verify that it is
working properly.
Anyway, I'd like to know if you have had any similar problems and a
damper pedal sticking in the middle of a sequence when the same sequence
has performed flawlessly on prior occassions? I would hope that you
haven't and that this might, in fact, be an internal problem that might
diagnose out...
Thnx,
Tom
At 19:44 1998-02-12 -0800, Hasnat M wrote:
> >Can any body explain to me a bit abt the .sng file. I mean what is
> >the difference between a .mid file and .sng file ? I mean can save a
> >song to a disk as mid file or sng file..
A SNG file is KORGs native file format for saving ALL songs from the
internal sequencer to one file. You can't save only one song as a SNG file.
An SNG file can contain N-specific data without problems, but a MID file
has a general standard for events, which means that any N-specific data
must be saved as some kind of meta events.
If you want to save a single song from the sequencer, you can save it as a
MID file anyway. The N will recognise N-specific meta events and load them.
Other (non N-specific) external sequencers might throw those meta events
away though.
Take a look at near the bottom of page 200 and near the top of page 202 in
the Reference Guide, to see the limitations of saving/loading MID files.
BUT, those limitations are only valid for MID files not created by the N!!
I've saved, cleared, loaded, saved, cleared & loaded the same song in the
internal sequencer, and NO data was lost!
Conclusion: you can safely save a song from the interal sequencer as a MID
file!
At 01:50 1998-02-13 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
> >Hey Kenneth, do you know anything about the defective chip...?
No, never heard of it. But perhaps there are some of them around?
> >I dread trying to use the sequencer in a
> >critical moment and have it lock up on me! I know, I know, use a
> >computer... : )
Hehe, don't be surprised if it's actually the computer that fails. :)
> >The sequence I just finished is for a wedding and uses lots of horns,
> >strings, various keyboards, percussion, etc., etc. I think 14 of the 16
> >tracks have been used and I just can't imagine after all the work having
> >the stupid thing lock up on me. Do you think I should I just tape the
> >sequence rather than directly doing the sequence at the wedding?
I doubt the N would lock up in the middle of everything. It's never
happened to me...
But, if you want to be absolutely sure, tape it. Though you can never be
100% sure that the tapedeck won't go bezerks either, though chances are
perhaps smaller. :)
Oh, by the way, perhaps you would like to share that song of yours? You
could save it as a MID file and have it sent to Steve Day's public ftp space.
At 02:17 1998-02-14 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
> >After looking at my situation a bit, he suggested that I take it
> >to an authorized repair station for a checkup to verify that it is
> >working properly.
I'd say the same.
> >Anyway, I'd like to know if you have had any similar problems and a
> >damper pedal sticking in the middle of a sequence when the same sequence
> >has performed flawlessly on prior occassions?
That's never happened to me. I have MID file that causes a "pedal stick" on
one of the tracks in the middle of the song, but it always does that, even
if I play it from an external sequencer, so I don't think it's my N364.
I don't know that I've ever had that problem, but when recording with an
external, computer based sequencer I will very frequently get stuck or absent
notes. I assume this is because note offs and note ons (respectively) are
getting lost in the shuffle. I don't know how that relates to your problem,
but it might.
Now that I think about it, though, did you happen to change track numbers
while holding the pedal down? That would lock the pedal, since the pedal off
command would get sent on a different channel than the pedal on.
That's pretty much the experience I had with "color"; at 99 you can hear a
real high, sharp partial in the sound (tonally sharp, not pitchwise). As to
why I would need 99 discreet levels of this, I don't really know. As to why
I'd need it at all, that I don't know either. Maybe it's a ploy to make us
think that we can make the LPF resonant. It's just a mind game. They're all
out to get us.
It's a shame that the ROM upgrade is just a fantasy. I'm so disappointed.
Aside from the sound quality, this synth really seems like a step down from
the 01/W. I had a chance to use one a few years ago, and I thought that if
anything Korg would add features to it. Well they added the arpeggiator (i've
voiced my opinion on that), and RPPR (let's all say it together--"Whoopty-
doo"), but they took away cool stuff like waveshaping and emphasis. I am
bummed now. :-(
Still, it sounds good.
am
Alan Moore wrote:
> >
> > I don't know that I've ever had that problem, but when recording with an
> > external, computer based sequencer I will very frequently get stuck or absent
> > notes. I assume this is because note offs and note ons (respectively) are
> > getting lost in the shuffle. I don't know how that relates to your problem,
> > but it might.
> > Now that I think about it, though, did you happen to change track numbers
> > while holding the pedal down? That would lock the pedal, since the pedal off
> > command would get sent on a different channel than the pedal on.
My thought was that since the problem reoccurred after a stop and reset
of the sequencer while the problem went away after turning the whole
unit on & off, the issue was probably hardware. Your point has been
something that I've been pondering however and will probably go into
edit view mode to see what's on each track. That is so tedious though!
I still can't understand why the problem would occur on two different
sequences that have played well in the past and have NOT been edited.
That really perplexes me. The Korg rep seems to think that something is
going wrong internally vs. anything in the sequence and I was told to
take it to a service station. I think I'm going to take a look inside
the sequence though to see where the ped on/off commands are given. I
feel like I must be overlooking something that simple instead of it
being internal.
I guess the real bottom line is that computers, no matter if in the Korg
or a PC on your desk, can be a real "joy" (pain) from time to time; I
guess we just have to make the best of it and go wid da flow... :)
Thnx for responding,
Tom
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > Oh, by the way, perhaps you would like to share that song of yours? You
> > could save it as a MID file and have it sent to Steve Day's public ftp > space.
I have a couple questions about uploading. The sequence I did is an
arrangement of an already copywrited Christian Song for a wedding in the
Church. Does the site want only original songs or are arrangements
desired also?
Tom
> >
> >I don't know that I've ever had that problem, but when recording with
an
> >external, computer based sequencer I will very frequently get stuck or
absent
> >notes. I assume this is because note offs and note ons (respectively)
are
> >getting lost in the shuffle.
Somebody told me you get stuck notes bcos of the type of soundcard you
use. If u use a higher end sound card like CardD Plus.... you dont hv
these problems.... I use a very basic 16bit sound card, not even a
SB16, something that camewith my PackardBell, and do get stuck notes
sometimes.... Any comments? Is this true bcos of type of scard?
Hasnat
> >At 19:44 1998-02-12 -0800, Hasnat M wrote:
> >
>> >>Can any body explain to me a bit abt the .sng file. I mean what is
>> >>the difference between a .mid file and .sng file ? I mean can save
a
>> >>song to a disk as mid file or sng file..
> >
> >A SNG file is KORGs native file format for saving ALL songs from the
> >internal sequencer to one file. You can't save only one song as a SNG
file.
> >
> >An SNG file can contain N-specific data without problems, but a MID
file
> >has a general standard for events, which means that any N-specific data
> >must be saved as some kind of meta events.
> >
> >If you want to save a single song from the sequencer, you can save it
as a
> >MID file anyway. The N will recognise N-specific meta events and load
them.
> >Other (non N-specific) external sequencers might throw those meta
events
> >away though.
> >
> >Take a look at near the bottom of page 200 and near the top of page 202
in
> >the Reference Guide, to see the limitations of saving/loading MID
files.
> >
> >BUT, those limitations are only valid for MID files not created by the
N!!
> >I've saved, cleared, loaded, saved, cleared & loaded the same song in
the
> >internal sequencer, and NO data was lost!
> >
> >Conclusion: you can safely save a song from the interal sequencer as a
MID
> >file!
Thanx Ken. You probably know the Ref.Manual inside out :) I still hv
to do that.....and I'm still far from mastering the N.. which brings me
to ask u another question abt the pg 199.. what exactly is the a midi
exc.data?
I don't know if it has anything to do with this midi exc. datat thing
but I am composing something on cakewalk (also partly on N) and save
thm on harddrive. When I load the song again on cakewalk, and play it,
howcome the effects changes? I mean the Send C/D stuff? How can I save
these parameters along with the song, so that when I load it next time,
the Send C/D will set automatically?
Hasnat
Hi, Fellow n-users
My friend has a writable CD rom. He says he can record my songs on CD.
Which would be great. I can then give my music to my family and friends.
And the sound quality will, I guess, be excellent, compared to the tape
recordings.
My question: I only have a Korg N364, and no computer program like
Cakewalk or whatever. My friend only has a computer with soundblaster. How
can we record my stuff on the CD do you think? Put it on the harddisk
first? and what kind of wiring will I need? Midi or just the regular audio
cables 1 and 2 out? Do we need special software?
Who has expierience in this field?
Please help us
Thanx
-toon
At 21:20 1998-02-15 -0800, Hasnat M wrote:
> >Somebody told me you get stuck notes bcos of the type of soundcard you
> >use. If u use a higher end sound card like CardD Plus.... you dont hv
> >these problems.... I use a very basic 16bit sound card, not even a
> >SB16, something that camewith my PackardBell, and do get stuck notes
> >sometimes.... Any comments? Is this true bcos of type of scard?
It's a possible cause. A badly implemented hardware/software MPU401 could
cause noteskipping. It could also be bad midi cables, or bad connectors on
the soundcard.
So far, I haven't encoutered this problem. My N364 has happily played all
notes and responded to all sysex/midi-controllers I've sent to it via midi
(I've got an SB AWE64 Gold soundcard with software MPU401 emulation).
The Yamaha PSR400 I had a while ago would frequently miss out notes though.
Since I switched to my N364, this has never happened. And I'm using the
same external midi equipment.
At 10:55 1998-02-16 +0100, Toon Theuwis wrote:
> >My friend has a writable CD rom. He says he can record my songs on CD.
> >Which would be great. I can then give my music to my family and friends.
> >And the sound quality will, I guess, be excellent, compared to the tape
> >recordings.
I've thought about doing this myself. Tape recordings suck, if you don't
have a really expensive tapedeck (or a DAT ofcourse). A CD recorder is a
lot cheaper.
> >My question: I only have a Korg N364, and no computer program like
> >Cakewalk or whatever. My friend only has a computer with soundblaster. How
> >can we record my stuff on the CD do you think? Put it on the harddisk
> >first? and what kind of wiring will I need? Midi or just the regular audio
> >cables 1 and 2 out? Do we need special software?
> >Who has expierience in this field?
First you must sample (audio-record) the sound output of the N. You can use
your regular audio cables, but since the Soundblaster often has a 3.5 mm
stereo jack for input, you'll also need some kind of cable adaptor that
"converts" your audio cables to a single 3.5 mm stereo plug. Should be
quite easy to find one.
After plugging the cables, you need a program that can sample directly to
the harddisk (sampling directly into RAM isn't an option if you have less
than 64MB plus, and the song is long). Since your friend has a Soundblaster
(SB16?) I'm sure that Creative Lab's Wave Studio is already installed (it
comes with the soundcard). Use it to sample, and do it in 44.1 kHz 16 bit
stereo.
Oh, and I ought to let you know that Soundblaster cards are not ideal for
sampling good quality audio. The analog-to-digital converters aren't very
good (not in my SB AWE64 Gold either). Often they're VERY noisy. There are
several cards who are dedicated to sample and play audio at great quality,
but they aren't cheap. It all depends on how important it is for you to
have good quality audio.
When done recording, you should have quite a large sample (about 10 MB per
minute of audio). In order to burn it onto a CD, you'll need a program that
can do this. Since I've never even seen anybody do this, I don't have a
clue what programs you can use. Perhaps somebody else on this list knows?
At 18:08 1998-02-15 -0500, Alan Moore wrote:
> >Maybe it's a ploy to make us think that we can make the LPF resonant. It's
> >just a mind game. They're all out to get us.
Yet another conspiration theory. :)
To me it seems like KORG didn't know how to do add real DSP resonant filter
algorithms to the Nx64, so they added their super-beta crap algorithm
instead, and named it "color".
Hehe.
> >It's a shame that the ROM upgrade is just a fantasy.
The ROM upgrade doesn't need to be a fantasy, since the only thing needed
is a switch of chips. Adding more hardware circuits (like additional DPS's
for fx processing) is a dream though. Unless you're a vicious hardware
banger who likes to waste a lot of time, and are a soldering master. :)
At 20:08 1998-02-15 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
> >I still can't understand why the problem would occur on two different
> >sequences that have played well in the past and have NOT been edited.
> >That really perplexes me. The Korg rep seems to think that something is
> >going wrong internally vs. anything in the sequence and I was told to
> >take it to a service station. I think I'm going to take a look inside
> >the sequence though to see where the ped on/off commands are given. I
> >feel like I must be overlooking something that simple instead of it
> >being internal.
I have an idea. Send the whole song (save it as an SMF format 1 from page
5B in the disk menu) as a mail attachment directly to me
(*@*.tninet.se), and I'll check it out, both in Cubase and in the
internal sequencer.
At 20:44 1998-02-15 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
>> >> Oh, by the way, perhaps you would like to share that song of yours? You
>> >> could save it as a MID file and have it sent to Steve Day's public ftp >
space.
> >
> >I have a couple questions about uploading. The sequence I did is an
> >arrangement of an already copywrited Christian Song for a wedding in the
> >Church. Does the site want only original songs or are arrangements
> >desired also?
I'm sure Steve Day won't mind if you send your arrangement. There aren't
very many songs there, so any contribution is welcome. Steve decides.
At 21:39 1998-02-15 -0800, Hasnat M wrote:
> >Thanx Ken. You probably know the Ref.Manual inside out :)
Well, actually no, but thanks. :)
> >to do that.....and I'm still far from mastering the N.. which brings me
> >to ask u another question abt the pg 199.. what exactly is the a midi
> >exc.data?
You can use your Nx64 as a sysex data filer. If you enter page 4B in the
disk menu, you'll see a flashing "Awaiting data". You can now connect an
external midi device (such as a drum machine) and send sysex data to the
Nx64 (e.g. patch data). The Nx64 will store everything it receives in a
temporary memory buffer (see the limitations on page 199). Then you can put
a disk in the diskdrive of the N, choose a filename (one page to the right)
and save the buffer to disk.
If you want to send the saved sysex data to the external midi device, put
that disk back into the drive, enter page 4A in the disk menu and select
the file to send.
All in all, if you have a computer, get a sysex filer instead.
> >When I load the song again on cakewalk, and play it,
> >howcome the effects changes? I mean the Send C/D stuff? How can I save
> >these parameters along with the song, so that when I load it next time,
> >the Send C/D will set automatically?
Send C/D can be set by using two midi controllers (not sysex). Controller
number 91 is for fx processor 1 (send C), and controller number 93 is for
fx processor 2 (send D).
Example: If you want to set a track in the Nx64 to Send C=4 and Send D=8,
you must create two midi controller messages in the corresponding track in
Cakewalk (I don't know how to do this in Cakewalk, but its manual should
explain). Set the first message to controller 91 with value 54 (sets Send C
to 4) and the second message to controller 93 with value 108 (sets Send D
to 8).
Take a look at the middle of page 126 to see which values you must use to
set Send C/D to a value ranging from 0 to 9. I don't know how to set them
to PRG though. Can anybody fill me in on that?
I'll send you a MID file that uses these controllers (yes, standard MID
files can set Send C and Send D).
On Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 10:55:52AM +0100, Toon Theuwis wrote:
> > Hi, Fellow n-users
> >
> > My friend has a writable CD rom. He says he can record my songs on CD.
> > Which would be great. I can then give my music to my family and friends.
> > And the sound quality will, I guess, be excellent, compared to the tape
> > recordings.
> >
> > My question: I only have a Korg N364, and no computer program like
> > Cakewalk or whatever. My friend only has a computer with soundblaster. How
> > can we record my stuff on the CD do you think? Put it on the harddisk
> > first? and what kind of wiring will I need? Midi or just the regular audio
> > cables 1 and 2 out? Do we need special software?
> > Who has expierience in this field?
The Soundblaster has an audio input (analog) line, so you can hook your
N364's first two outputs to that one with the appropriate cable, then
use any soundfile recording program to make a huge file of each of your
songs at CD quality (44.1khz, 16bit, stereo), then use a CD writer
program that understands the same soundfile format.
I haven't actually tried this, but it really _should_ work. Sound
quality will be better than tape but not absolutely great, because the
soundblaster's analog to digital converter will probably pick up some
noise from the computer's circuits.
Hey Toon,
I've started to look at this a little myself. The N364 doesn't have a RS-232 serial interface that can go direct to a computer. So, the only way that the N364 will be able to talk to the computer will be through a MIDI cable. I haven't tried this, but you could try running a cable from the AUDIO OUT of the N364 to the LINE IN of the Soundblaster. Try playing a song from the Korg, and see if it comes out through the computer speakers. Make sure your friend has the LINE IN channel enabled in the Sound Blaster Mixer configuration. I'm not really sure how much distortion you'll get if it works, but it's something you can try. If you do hear sound from your computer, you could try recording it using Soundblaster's bundled software that came with the card. I would record it as a .WAV file. Then try to use the CD Recording software. Going back to the MIDI cable, you'll need a sequencing program like Cakewalk to really get the job done. If you've been monitoring th!
e list, you'll know that several people
have tried Cakewalk, while others have looked at Cubase. There's also Protools. I've not tried any of these yet, and am still deciding what's the best route to go. If you really want to do this right, the solution might be something like a Darla or Layla card by Event1. Take a look at their website: www.event1.com. Their card is a PCI card that goes in your system - Plug and Play (supposedly), and has Audio Outs and Ins to allow you to do digital recording. I'm assuming you can even record analog devices like guitars, vocals, etc. with it. They give you some pretty decent software, and the capability of using Cakewalk as well. Let me know your outcome, as I'm looking at getting this done as well.
Thanks,
Todd
Toon.*@*.AC.BE on 02/16/98 05:09:00 AM
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.*@*
cc: (bcc: Todd Ridner/NCS/Dana)
Subject: recording on CD
Hi, Fellow n-users
My friend has a writable CD rom. He says he can record my songs on CD.
Which would be great. I can then give my music to my family and friends.
And the sound quality will, I guess, be excellent, compared to the tape
recordings.
My question: I only have a Korg N364, and no computer program like
Cakewalk or whatever. My friend only has a computer with soundblaster. How
can we record my stuff on the CD do you think? Put it on the harddisk
first? and what kind of wiring will I need? Midi or just the regular audio
cables 1 and 2 out? Do we need special software?
Who has expierience in this field?
Please help us
Thanx
-toon
How do I select which effects to use in sequencer mode, by sending sysex to
my N364 from an external sequencer? Page 222 in the Reference Guide doesn't
help.
At 10:55 16-2-98 +0100, you wrote:
> >Hi, Fellow n-users
> >
> >My friend has a writable CD rom. He says he can record my songs on CD.
> >Which would be great. I can then give my music to my family and friends.
> >And the sound quality will, I guess, be excellent, compared to the tape
> >recordings.
> >
> >My question: I only have a Korg N364, and no computer program like
> >Cakewalk or whatever. My friend only has a computer with soundblaster. How
> >can we record my stuff on the CD do you think? Put it on the harddisk
> >first? and what kind of wiring will I need? Midi or just the regular audio
> >cables 1 and 2 out? Do we need special software?
> >Who has expierience in this field?
> >
> >
> >Please help us
> >
> >Thanx
> >
> >-toon
> >
This is what you have to do:
- Connect the outputs 1&2 from the synthesizer to the line-in of the
soundblaster.
- Try to find a program that can make .wav files sampled from the line-in.
(probably on the SB disks (?) )
There are also more professional programs available, for example
Soundforge 4.0
(with that program you can edit the wave files and add effects)
- Sample with 44.1 Khz, 16 bit, Stereo on your harddisk. (A large .wav file
is created)
- Put the wave files on the cd-rom with a CD-write program that can use
.wav files
to create audio tracks on the CD.
I hope that the quality of the AD convertors of the soundblaster will be
satisfying,
there will probably be some quality loss (noise eg).
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
At 13:19 16-2-98 +0100, you wrote:
> >When done recording, you should have quite a large sample (about 10 MB per
> >minute of audio). In order to burn it onto a CD, you'll need a program that
> >can do this. Since I've never even seen anybody do this, I don't have a
> >clue what programs you can use. Perhaps somebody else on this list knows?
You can use Adaptec Easy CD creator Pro, which has Spin Doctor. Spin Doctor
can sample from any audio source in your system, filter noise, clicks etc. It has a
loudness balancer and you can record it to a cd. I use it, and it works quite well.
Hero
Is it possible somehow to Change Progams/Banks in a track in the middle
of a song using the N sequencer or Cakewalk? I need to use atleast 20
instuments in a song and there is not enough channels/track to assign
each. I was thinking may be I could use tracks that aren't used thru
out the whole song...or something...
Hasnat
hi:
you can easily use "event-list" and choose "bank/patch" change" in Cakewalk.
bye,
Norman Johansyah
-----Original Message-----
From: Hasnat M <*@*.COM>
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 11:40 AM
Subject: Program Changing
> >Is it possible somehow to Change Progams/Banks in a track in the middle
> >of a song using the N sequencer or Cakewalk? I need to use atleast 20
> >instuments in a song and there is not enough channels/track to assign
> >each. I was thinking may be I could use tracks that aren't used thru
> >out the whole song...or something...
> >
> >Hasnat
> >
> >
Todd,
I'll tell you how it went as soon as we've tried it. Although the plan is
to try it this summer, which is still a while from now. We both have a lot
of work that has te be done first.
Thanks for the help
-Toon
hello,
i dont know much about midi and stuff but i have a demo of cakewalk
and i was wondering how i can use the n264 sounds with it. i got a
crappy sound card (old ass pro audio spectrum: it sounds like blips
and bleeps and ticks). would i be able to play sequences off cakewalk
into the n264 so that the sound comes out of the output on the n264?
or otherwise, how does it all work together? remember, i dont know
much. help me if you can.
thanx, kaliss
Hey All,
Does anybody have the Korg Drums RPPR disk that they could upload to
ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ ???
John
(John.*@*.com)
John,
I've got what you're looking for but am going out for a while and can't
do now. I've been to the site you specify and what you are asking for
IS there. I think the file is called N......something. Your RPPR files
are contained in that file. Send back to tell me if you get them. If
you don't, I'll send..
Tom
At 06:08 17-2-98 -0800, you wrote:
> >hello,
> >i dont know much about midi and stuff but i have a demo of cakewalk
> >and i was wondering how i can use the n264 sounds with it. i got a
> >crappy sound card (old ass pro audio spectrum: it sounds like blips
> >and bleeps and ticks). would i be able to play sequences off cakewalk
> >into the n264 so that the sound comes out of the output on the n264?
Hey, what's wrong with the good ol' PAS? I got a PAS16 and I've sworn with
it. It's one of the few cards with a real MPU interface on board.. :)
Hero
hi everybody!
first of all i want to tell you, as many said before, that this list is
very good and usefull especially for people who are just starting, like me!
Its a very nice work all of you who know a little bit more are doing.
now lets go to business!
after a long time of use of headphones, i decided its time to have a better
quality sound. Now i dont now what kind of speakers should i buy. Shall i
buy one amplified speaker (lets say one like marshall or peavey,for
example), two small amplified speakers, or two acoustic speakers?
I think the last option is the best, because i will have a good quality
stereo sound. But in this case, what else do i have to buy: a amplifier
(like pioneer, for example)? a receiver(idem)? a mixer? a soundsystem (with
a receiver, cd and tape and two acoustic speakers)? a friend told me i have
to buy a pre-amplifier and a amplifier, or a servo-amplifier (like samson).
is it true? what kind of speaker system do you use? I saw two acoustic
amplified speakers from sony (they only have the volume control) for about
U$400. anyone heard about them?
another question: my parents are traveling to spain and holland. I guess
prices in these countriese are lower than here in recife, brazil (for
exapmle, a n264 was costing U$2800 here, and a marshall amplified speaker
about US$800). anyone has idea of prices on differents countries?
well, i think that's it. thank you in advance for any help,
beny
gollee jee.. i didnt know that
---Hero Idema <*@*.NET> wrote:
> >
> > At 06:08 17-2-98 -0800, you wrote:
>> > >hello,
>> > >i dont know much about midi and stuff but i have a demo of cakewalk
>> > >and i was wondering how i can use the n264 sounds with it. i got a
>> > >crappy sound card (old ass pro audio spectrum: it sounds like blips
>> > >and bleeps and ticks). would i be able to play sequences off
cakewalk
>> > >into the n264 so that the sound comes out of the output on the n264?
> >
> > Hey, what's wrong with the good ol' PAS? I got a PAS16 and I've
sworn with
> > it. It's one of the few cards with a real MPU interface on board.. :)
> >
> > Hero
> >
> > _____________________
> > Hero Idema
> > *@*.net
> > http://www.imagica.net
> > telnet://imagica.net:4000
> > _____________________
> >
On Tue, Feb 17, 1998 at 09:21:13PM +0100, Hero Idema wrote:
> > At 06:08 17-2-98 -0800, you wrote:
>> > >hello,
>> > >i dont know much about midi and stuff but i have a demo of cakewalk
>> > >and i was wondering how i can use the n264 sounds with it. i got a
>> > >crappy sound card (old ass pro audio spectrum: it sounds like blips
>> > >and bleeps and ticks). would i be able to play sequences off cakewalk
>> > >into the n264 so that the sound comes out of the output on the n264?
> >
> > Hey, what's wrong with the good ol' PAS? I got a PAS16 and I've sworn with
> > it. It's one of the few cards with a real MPU interface on board.. :)
well, if it does FM synthesis, you probably want to use it as a MIDI
card and a sampler, but not as a synth of its own. same goes for
soundblasters like mine.... which is just fine, considering you have a
real synth hooked to it.
I'm going to be installing a sequencer soon, and I hear popular
sequencers let you work with MIDI _and_ samples, nowadays, doing the
samples thru the soundcard itself. Does this work well in practice? If
I want to do it, I'll have to figure out a way to mix the output of the
N and the audio output of the card... right now they're on different
inputs of an ordinary stereo amplifier.
about things being cheaper in spain or holland than in brasil: I bought
my N in andorra, of all places (that's the tiny 20-mile wide country
stuck in the mountains between spain and france), and it's about the
cheapest place in all western europe. spain isn't too expensive,
probably a lot cheaper than the netherlands.
Alon Lederman wrote:
> >
> > hi everybody!
> >
> > first of all i want to tell you, as many said before, that this list is
> > very good and usefull especially for people who are just starting, like me!
> > Its a very nice work all of you who know a little bit more are doing.
> > now lets go to business!
> > after a long time of use of headphones, i decided its time to have a better
> > quality sound. Now i dont now what kind of speakers should i buy. Shall i
> > buy one amplified speaker (lets say one like marshall or peavey,for
> > example), two small amplified speakers, or two acoustic speakers?
> > I think the last option is the best, because i will have a good quality
> > stereo sound. But in this case, what else do i have to buy: a amplifier
> > (like pioneer, for example)? a receiver(idem)? a mixer? a soundsystem (with
> > a receiver, cd and tape and two acoustic speakers)? a friend told me i have
> > to buy a pre-amplifier and a amplifier, or a servo-amplifier (like samson).
> > is it true? what kind of speaker system do you use? I saw two acoustic
> > amplified speakers from sony (they only have the volume control) for about
> > U$400. anyone heard about them?
> > another question: my parents are traveling to spain and holland. I guess
> > prices in these countriese are lower than here in recife, brazil (for
> > exapmle, a n264 was costing U$2800 here, and a marshall amplified speaker
> > about US$800). anyone has idea of prices on differents countries?
> > well, i think that's it. thank you in advance for any help,
> > beny
Hey Beny,
Can't really tell you 'bout prices too much except in the US at a place
called Guitar Center a 264 is going for around $1350 US dollars. As far
as speakers go, I am new to the electric gear stuff and come from
playing an acoustic piano but I bought two JBL reference monitors and
they will literally blow your windows out if you crank the N. Though I
am currently not using a mixing board, we do intend to go that direction
soon. The speakers are bi-amplified with no volume control so the
volume has to be controlled at the ketboard. I have to turn it way down
to be able to stand it! The speakers are JBL 6208 reference monitors.
I can tell you that they will handle a whole lot of volume without
distortion. They are a bit pricy though at somewhere around $700 US for
two when I bought them about a year ago. They must be lower now I would
think.
Hope this might help a bit...
Tom
Alon, (sorry, I think I called you Beny last time, oh well...)
I forgot to say something in my last response. My experimentation seems
to show that using two speakers vs one speaker in mono mode works MUCH
better for fullness of sound. Fidelity I think it's called. One
speaker just doesn't get it at all!!!! I'm not sure why this is but
maybe it has something to do with stereo programs vs mono programs or
somethin' like that. I'm talkin' above my head and am new too. Anyway,
with the combis and programs native to the N_64s, my experience has been
that two is MUCH BETTER than one.
Good luck,
Tom
> > I've got what you're looking for but am going out for a while and can't
> > do now. I've been to the site you specify and what you are asking for
> > IS there. I think the file is called N......something. Your RPPR files
> > are contained in that file. Send back to tell me if you get them. If
> > you don't, I'll send..
> >
> > Tom
Hi Tom,
The file you're thinking about is N-DISKS.ZIP. I put that file together a
while ago. It contains the following disks from Korg:
1) Power Disk
2) Killer Organs
3) Sound Alternatives
4) House and Funk
5) Pop Performances
6) n364 (factory preset disk)
The only disk with RPPR patterns on it is the n364 disk which came with my
Keyboard. Apparently, rumor has it that there is another disk out there
(although I've never seen it). A disk that is loaded with Drum RPPR Pattern
Sets. It's supposed to be really cool. I'd love to get a copy of it. Do you
have this disk? If so, how do you like it and could you post it?
John
(John.*@*.com)
I know this question is placed in the wrong mailing list, but I'll ask anyway:
I've got a 2x25W amplifier which I drive my two 8-ohm 250W speakers with.
When cranking the volume up it sure gets nice & loud, but I get distortion
in the bass (12" bass cones).
Is this because my amp is weak? Will a 2x50W or 2x100W amp produce less
distortion?
At 18:06 1998-02-17 -0300, Alon Lederman wrote:
> >after a long time of use of headphones, i decided its time to have a better
> >quality sound.
Good idea. Not only because of better sound quality, but also to avoid
tinnitus (continuous ringing in your ears).
> >Now i dont now what kind of speakers should i buy. Shall i
> >buy one amplified speaker (lets say one like marshall or peavey,for
> >example), two small amplified speakers, or two acoustic speakers?
> >I think the last option is the best, because i will have a good quality
> >stereo sound. But in this case, what else do i have to buy: a amplifier
> >(like pioneer, for example)? a receiver(idem)? a mixer? a soundsystem (with
> >a receiver, cd and tape and two acoustic speakers)? a friend told me i have
> >to buy a pre-amplifier and a amplifier, or a servo-amplifier (like samson).
> >is it true?
Go for two separate speakers if you want a good stereo image.
If you've got the money, buy a fat amp + a pre-amp (the main amp might need
a pre-amp to get a high enough input signal) and good quality speakers. And
if you want to be able to play more than one instrument at a time, also a
mixer (like something from the Mackie VLZ series). To use your equipment as
a "home stereo" also, you could connect your CD/receiver/tapedeck to the
mixer.
If you haven't got the money, buy a standard "home stereo" amp with
CD/receiver/tapedeck/etc inputs and inexpensive speakers. Also buy a small
mixer if you want more than one instrument playing at once.
My cheap setup looks like this:
- Weak & cheap Pioneer amp (2x25W) with CD/receiver/tapedeck/etc inputs
- 2 JWS Genexxa large three-way speakers with 12" bass (250W max)
- Cheap Bespeco M4-S mixer with 4 stereo inputs and simple level controls
The amp is too weak, but I get massive sound out of my system anyway. I
like it massive and loud.
> >anyone has idea of prices on differents countries?
I can give you a good tip: don't buy anything in Sweden. Everything is
expensive here. :)
At 23:53 1998-02-17 +0100, Roger Espel Llima wrote:
> >I'm going to be installing a sequencer soon, and I hear popular
> >sequencers let you work with MIDI _and_ samples, nowadays, doing the
> >samples thru the soundcard itself. Does this work well in practice? If
> >I want to do it, I'll have to figure out a way to mix the output of the
> >N and the audio output of the card... right now they're on different
> >inputs of an ordinary stereo amplifier.
Sequencers like Emagic's LOGIC, Cakewalk, Cubase and several others allow
you to use midi and samples. Sample able sequencers often have the suffix
"audio". Just thought I'd say it.
I've used both Cubasis Audio and Cubase VST audio, and using samples works
just fine. Cubase VST can also add realtime effects to the samples while
playing.
I solved the mixing problem by simply buying a small stereo mixer. I feed
it with my N364 and my soundcard, and send the result to an ordinary stereo
amp (on which I use the CD input).
To get pass the 2 fx processor limit in my N364, I sample whole "solos" of
sounds that have odd fx settings. Then I let Cubase play the sample through
my soundcard at the same time as playing the other instruments on the N364
via midi.
At 20:26 18-2-98 +0100, you wrote:
> >I know this question is placed in the wrong mailing list, but I'll ask
anyway:
> >
> >I've got a 2x25W amplifier which I drive my two 8-ohm 250W speakers with.
> >When cranking the volume up it sure gets nice & loud, but I get distortion
> >in the bass (12" bass cones).
> >
> >Is this because my amp is weak? Will a 2x50W or 2x100W amp produce less
> >distortion?
It's not very healthy for speakers to use an amplifier with less power than
the speakers. The amplifier will clip when the sound is too loud, and destroy
the speakers. I think that you should try at least a 2x100 W amp.
(not cheap, I am afraid...)
Bass creates very high biases !
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >
> > I know this question is placed in the wrong mailing list, but I'll ask anyway:
> >
> > I've got a 2x25W amplifier which I drive my two 8-ohm 250W speakers with.
> > When cranking the volume up it sure gets nice & loud, but I get distortion
> > in the bass (12" bass cones).
> >
> > Is this because my amp is weak? Will a 2x50W or 2x100W amp produce less
> > distortion?
Kenneth,
I'm not a techie but I would guess that as you get more amps in the
driving amp, you'll see less and less distortion; that is as long as
you don't overdrive the speakers. I think that your optimum condition
is when your amp output is close to your speaker capacity. I don't
think you want to go past speaker capacity though because you'll blow
them or cause clipping when volume gets too high.
Tom
I apologize for asking a question which may seem very obvious to most
members of this list. I am on the point of buying an n-364; it seems to
offer what I want. But I need to know if ALL aspects of the sounds and
effects can be altered at will by the user. While playing in the store,
for example, I could not find a way to alter or remove tremulo from a sound
that interested me. I need an instrument which gives me complete control
over the synth sounds and the ability to construst sounds from scratch.
Will the n-364 allow me to do this, or should I be looking elsewhere?
Thanks for any reply, either to the list or to me at
*@*.com
Robert
John Schulz wrote:
> > 1) Power Disk
> > 2) Killer Organs
> > 3) Sound Alternatives
> > 4) House and Funk
> > 5) Pop Performances
> > 6) n364 (factory preset disk)
> >
> > The only disk with RPPR patterns on it is the n364 disk which came with
> > my Keyboard. Apparently, rumor has it that there is another disk out
> > there (although I've never seen it). A disk that is loaded with Drum
> > RPPR Pattern Sets. It's supposed to be really cool. I'd love to get a
> > copy of it. Do you have this disk? If so, how do you like it and could
> > you post it?
John,
I think I understand what you are saying now but let me verify what I
think I thought you said...??? You already have RPPR.SNG and RPPR.PST
is what I thought you said.
Now, if that is correct, the other RPPR stuff that you seek is probably
in the KORG rebate offer that included $100, headphones, and SIX disks
for the N unit. I am waiting for my rebate at this time and expect it
in the next 4 to 6 weeks. The offer was only for US purchasers and I'm
not sure why.
I'm sure that someone out there has those disks and can share them???
If not, I'll get them to you when I get mine. Then I'll probably get
sued by someone...Ha! Oh yes, the litigious US of A.
Tom
Ken,
There are a number of issues involved in amplifiers and speakers. The
power of the amplifier, the total harmonic distortion (THD) of the
amplifier, the output impedence (ohms) of the amplifier, the power
requirements of the speakers, the phase of the speakers, the input
impedence of the speakers and so on.
To give you an answer in simple terms, yes you do need a larger
amplifier. Most people don't realize it but it only takes about 1 to 2
watts of RMS power to play music at a normal listening level. The peak
requirements may be as much as 10 to 20 times higher than that. The
peaks produce sounds you may not even hear but the amplifier has to be
able to put them out.
Amplifier components have what is called a linear operating range.
That is the range that gives a straight line output for the voltage
input. If you drive the component too hard, the straight line output
starts to flatten out and cause what is called clipping. Anything beyond
is just dropped.
In a small amplifier, like 25 watts, it doesn't take much to start
causing clipping. If you crank it up, meaning it's required to put out
about 5 watts RMS, the peak output requirements on those big bass notes
can get as high as 25 to 35 watts or more and that's what causes the
distortion. Too many of these peaks can cause the output transistors to
heat up and possibly even go into thermal run-away (the heat causes them
to draw more current which, in turn, causes them to get even hotter) and
eventually blow the output transistors. The danger in this is caused if
the output stages are direct coupled (no capacitor) to the speakers. If
the transistor shorts instead of blowing open, the full voltage of the
power supply is applied to the speakers and fries the voice coils.
With a larger amplifier you don't have to worry as much because, at 5
watts output, it's stages are still running in the linear portions of
their curves rather than clipping. So instead of working real hard, like
the 25 watt amplifier, they are just loafing along and heat is not an
issue. You can still get distortion from a larger amp if it has a poor
THD value. Good amps have a THD rating of .01 or less. Crappy amps have
a THD rating of .1 or greater.
Speakers also have an efficiency rating. The less efficient they are,
the more power required to give the same DB level of sound as higher
efficiency speakers. Eight ohm speakers should be connected to eight ohm
output of the amp for proper matching. Improper impedence matching can
also cause distortion. Connecting four ohm speakers to an eight ohm
output is really bad because the four ohms doubles the current
requirements from the output.
For your 250 watt speakers, I wouldn't use anything smaller than 100
watts per channel. I have Bose 901's that are rated at 270 watts. I run
them with a 100 watt JVC stereo and you don't turn it up more than about
1/4 of the way if you value your ears. :)
Hope this answers a few of your questions.
Steve
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >
> > I know this question is placed in the wrong mailing list, but I'll ask anyway:
> >
> > I've got a 2x25W amplifier which I drive my two 8-ohm 250W speakers with.
> > When cranking the volume up it sure gets nice & loud, but I get distortion
> > in the bass (12" bass cones).
> >
> > Is this because my amp is weak? Will a 2x50W or 2x100W amp produce less
> > distortion?
> > John,
> > I think I understand what you are saying now but let me verify what I
> > think I thought you said...??? You already have RPPR.SNG and RPPR.PST
> > is what I thought you said.
> >
> > Now, if that is correct, the other RPPR stuff that you seek is probably
> > in the KORG rebate offer that included $100, headphones, and SIX disks
> > for the N unit. I am waiting for my rebate at this time and expect it
> > in the next 4 to 6 weeks. The offer was only for US purchasers and I'm
> > not sure why.
> >
> > I'm sure that someone out there has those disks and can share them???
> >
> > If not, I'll get them to you when I get mine. Then I'll probably get
> > sued by someone...Ha! Oh yes, the litigious US of A.
> >
> > Tom
Tom,
Yep. That's it exactly. You got it absolutely right! Give yourself a gold
star. I don't know why I'm having so much trouble finding this disk but I
sure would be grateful...
John
(John.*@*.com)
Robert Neville wrote:
> >
> > I apologize for asking a question which may seem very obvious to most
> > members of this list. I am on the point of buying an n-364; it seems to
> > offer what I want. But I need to know if ALL aspects of the sounds and
> > effects can be altered at will by the user. While playing in the store,
> > for example, I could not find a way to alter or remove tremulo from a sound
> > that interested me. I need an instrument which gives me complete control
> > over the synth sounds and the ability to construst sounds from scratch.
> >
> > Will the n-364 allow me to do this, or should I be looking elsewhere?
> >
> > Thanks for any reply, either to the list or to me at
> >
> > *@*.com
> >
> > Robert
I think that the answer to your question is yes and no respectively. I
believe that you can alter sounds like removing tremelo for instance as
well as a plethora of other tweaking. As far as creating sounds from
scratch, I think you may want a sampler which the N364 is not. Sounds
"created" on the N, as I understand it and I too am somewhat of a
newbie, must be created from the native soundset already present in the
N. There is a wide latitude of choice in that soundset however it it
may fill your need. If a sampler is what you seek, you are probably
going to pay some more money than the N.
But, what the heck, with a name like Neville, you should have no problem
having a company give you an instrument if you play your cards right...
:) You know, "...my brother says that you might be able to help me."
Tom
Yes, indeed. Tom speaks the truth. If you have 250W speakers (by the way, is that peak or nominal?), you'll want
AT LEAST a 75 W amp, with a recommendation of a 100 or better. The old rule of thumb is that the more wattage the
amplifier possesses, the better it will sound at lower listening levels, or the less work the amp will have to do to push
the sound out, therefore creating less distortion.
*@*.net on 02/18/98 03:51:00 PM
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.*@*
cc: (bcc: Todd Ridner/NCS/Dana)
Subject: Re: Weak amplifier
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >
> > I know this question is placed in the wrong mailing list, but I'll ask anyway:
> >
> > I've got a 2x25W amplifier which I drive my two 8-ohm 250W speakers with.
> > When cranking the volume up it sure gets nice & loud, but I get distortion
> > in the bass (12" bass cones).
> >
> > Is this because my amp is weak? Will a 2x50W or 2x100W amp produce less
> > distortion?
Kenneth,
I'm not a techie but I would guess that as you get more amps in the
driving amp, you'll see less and less distortion; that is as long as
you don't overdrive the speakers. I think that your optimum condition
is when your amp output is close to your speaker capacity. I don't
think you want to go past speaker capacity though because you'll blow
them or cause clipping when volume gets too high.
Tom
John Schulz wrote:
> >
>> > > John,
> >
>> > > I think I understand what you are saying now but let me verify what I
>> > > think I thought you said...??? You already have RPPR.SNG and RPPR.PST
>> > > is what I thought you said.
>> > >
>> > > Now, if that is correct, the other RPPR stuff that you seek is probably
>> > > in the KORG rebate offer that included $100, headphones, and SIX disks
>> > > for the N unit. I am waiting for my rebate at this time and expect it
>> > > in the next 4 to 6 weeks. The offer was only for US purchasers and I'm
>> > > not sure why.
>> > >
>> > > I'm sure that someone out there has those disks and can share them???
>> > >
>> > > If not, I'll get them to you when I get mine. Then I'll probably get
>> > > sued by someone...Ha! Oh yes, the litigious US of A.
>> > >
>> > > Tom
> >
> > Tom,
> > Yep. That's it exactly. You got it absolutely right! Give yourself a gold
> > star. I don't know why I'm having so much trouble finding this disk but I
> > sure would be grateful...
> >
> > John
> > (John.*@*.com)
John,
Always did like gold stars but when I was a kid I only got 3. Left deep
scars on my mental stability. Guess it's good for those who get 'em all
the time but when ya only gets 3, it's not that good. Won a stapler
once though for perfect attendance! :)
If you don't get the stuff before I get mine, I get it to ya...
Tom
I have the RPPR drum patterns. I got my rebate deal a few weeks ago.
I have not listened to most of them , but they sound good.
I made a zip file and it is about 415 kb, so write me if you would like me
sto send it to you. I don't know how to upload to the ftp site.
-David
Dave,
If you emai lthem to me at *@*.com, I'll put them on the ftp
site so everyone can have access to them.
Steve
David Gross wrote:
> >
> > I have the RPPR drum patterns. I got my rebate deal a few weeks ago.
> > I have not listened to most of them , but they sound good.
> >
> > I made a zip file and it is about 415 kb, so write me if you would like me
> > sto send it to you. I don't know how to upload to the ftp site.
> >
> > -David
At 17:08 18-2-98 -0600, you wrote:
> >I have the RPPR drum patterns. I got my rebate deal a few weeks ago.
> >I have not listened to most of them , but they sound good.
> >
> >I made a zip file and it is about 415 kb, so write me if you would like me
> >sto send it to you. I don't know how to upload to the ftp site.
if you have win95 or a unix clone or something, open a dos box or shell and type:
ftp ftp.ccnet.com
enter as username : anonymous
enter as password: your e-mailaddress
then type: bin
then: cd /users/sad001/uploads
en type: put zipfile
where zipfile is the location of the zip file on your harddrive,
this way you can upload it.
But if you want, I can do it for you, please mail
me the file.. :)
Greetings,
Hero Idema
I sent the RPPR functions to Steve, and he will make them available to
everybody.
I have really appreciated this list, and I am happy to finally contribute
something. :)
-David
Hello everybody. The drum pattern disk is not available via anonymous
ftp. A BIG thanks to David for providing them.
They are at ftp.ccnet.com in users/sad001/rpprdrum.zip.
Everybody have at them. :)
Steve
Ok, I spent some time messing around with "color" on a white noise sample to
see how it affects the whole spectrum, and I noticed a reasonable amount of
high-pass filtering. The manual says it boosts the frequencies around the
cutoff point, so maybe color is just a really wimpy resonance with a crazy-
wide bandwidth.
The thing that gets me is that Korg can come up with stuff like the
Wavestation, the prophecy, and the Z1, but they can't incorporate a simple
resonant filter into a workstation synth (of course, somehow they mananged to
put a killer wah effect in the fx processor). Sheesh; I learned how to do
that in college (well, Ok, but only in Csound). I don't understand the mind
of the Korgites.
Oh, and as for the conspiracy, there's a new TV drama coming out about the
whole thing. It's called the "N files". Pretty scary. Among other things,
they'll uncover the secret of why Synth fx processors never feature
compression, and what the exact difference is between overdrive and
distortion. ;-)
Alan
Ken,
It is always difficult to pinpoint the source of distortion in a system, but
more than likely it's your amplifier. Bass takes a lot of power to amplify,
so upgrading your amp is probably your best bet.
You may want to experiment, though, with the volume on the keyboard. The
signal coming out of the keyboard can get pretty hot if it's cranked, and that
might be overloading the inputs of your amp. I usually keep mine at about
50%; if I don't, chords can start to get distorted.
More than likely, though, since the distortion is primarily in the bass, I
would guess it's the amp. Make sure your speakers can handle a bigger amp
first, though!
Alan
The N series of keyboards are primarily workstations. As I've been
complaining since I joined this list, there are a lot of synthesis features
that are lacking. Things like tremolo and stuff can be altered, sure; there
is some degree of control. But, If you want things like multimode filters,
waveshaping, ring mod, matrix modulation, etc, etc, this is not the synth for
you. If you just need some meat-and-potatoes type sounds that sound really
good, this is probably your best bet in the price range.
Hey Folks,
I just downloaded the RPPR Drums disk. Can't wait to try 'em. Thanks to all
involved.
John
(John.*@*.com)
John Schulz wrote:
> >
> > Hey Folks,
> > I just downloaded the RPPR Drums disk. Can't wait to try 'em. Thanks to all
> > involved.
> >
> > John
> > (John.*@*.com)
I second that!! Hopefully the patterns are as good as I hope they are!
The thing that stinks is, we have a gig tonight, tomorrow and Saturday,
so I won't even be able to hear the new patterns until Saturday
afternoon! This feels like Christmas when I was a kid! I knew I'd get
some cool things, but I had to WAIT!!!!! Argh!
Since someone else,(John?) will get to try them out before me, could you
please tell me if they are good?
Thanks again David and Steve!!!
Erik
-----
Register to win a FREE WEB DESIGN at Wolf Tracks Design!
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Cove/8105/
mailto:*@*.com
Does anybody know if you can use the drum RPPRs in a commercial song?
I would assume that they are "royalty free" and may be used in this
manner, but I would like to know if I would be sued before I do this!!
Thanks!
Erik
----
Register for a FREE WEB DESIGN from Wolf Tracks Design!
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Cove/8105
mailto:*@*.com
hi everybody!
first thanks for the help with the speakers question. i think i'll buy a
simple amplifier.
now, sorry to bring it again, but i still cant understand how to use the rppr.
lets say that i have all the 10 songs of the internal sequencer occupied by
songs i made and i dont want to erase any of them (i know i cant save them
on disk, but i want to keep them in the n364). How can i use the rppr this
way? is it possible?
beny
Hello! i'm new to this list, i was wondering if anyone has successfully
used the other banks(other than the GM) from the N264/364 with cakewalk.
If you have, please help me!! Thank-you VERY much!!
Mike Broer
Alon Lederman wrote:
> >
> > hi everybody!
> > first thanks for the help with the speakers question. i think i'll buy a
> > simple amplifier.
> > now, sorry to bring it again, but i still cant understand how to use the rppr.
> >
> > lets say that i have all the 10 songs of the internal sequencer occupied by
> > songs i made and i dont want to erase any of them (i know i cant save them
> > on disk, but i want to keep them in the n364). How can i use the rppr this
> > way? is it possible?
> >
> > beny
Alon,
My last response of "no" seems a bit abrupt after looking at it so let
me try again. Please forgive me. :)
If you have ten songs loaded on your N, you won't be able to load the
.SNG files that correlate to the .PST files. They, as I understand it
(and sometimes I wonder) work as a team and must be there together. I
believe that when you "call" (or use if you will) the pattern set, you
must also match it with the song for proper operation. Now I may be way
off on this because I can't say I thoroughly understand myself but the
"song" is not really a song at all; it's just a .sng file that is the
other member of the pattern set to be played.
Someone help me on this. Am I right? Gosh, that's terreible starting
out lookin' like you know what you're talking about and then ending up
like that. That's happened a number of times with this instrument but I
"think" I'm learnin...
Ragrds & shtuph,
Tom
> >No
Now, that's what I call a short and concise answer. :)
> >The drum pattern disk is not available via anonymous ftp.
^^^
I hope you mean 'now'? Hehe. :)
Mike,
I wonder if you have purchased Cakewalk 5 or if you have obtained it
from any ftp site on internet. I currently have Cakewalk 1.3 (mmmmm..)
and I would like to upgrade it to Cakewalk 5. How much does it costs? Or
where can I find it on internet?
Regards,
Alex.
>From *@*.syntegra.net Thu Feb 19 12:07:01 1998
> >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21])
> > by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04504;
> > Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:37:06 +0100 (MET)
> >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
release
> > 1.8c) with spool id 0659 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Thu,
19 Feb
> > 1998 20:37:06 +0100
> >Received: from MNSi.Net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by
mail.rijnhaave.nl
> > (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA04439 for
<*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>;
> > Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:27:04 +0100 (MET)
> >Received: from mnsi.net.mnsi.net (dyn208-28-56-61.lon.mnsi.net
[208.28.56.61])
> > by MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id OAA04257 for
> > <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:24:10 -0500
> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >X-Priority: 3
> >X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >Message-ID: <199802191924.*@*.Net>
> >Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:22:55 -0500
> >Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
> >Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
> >From: Mike Broer <*@*.NET>
> >Subject: N264 and Cakewalk 5
> >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> >
> >Hello! i'm new to this list, i was wondering if anyone has
successfully
> >used the other banks(other than the GM) from the N264/364 with
cakewalk.
> >If you have, please help me!! Thank-you VERY much!!
> >
> >Mike Broer
> >
Cakewalk 6.0 exists too !
At 14:14 19-2-98 PST, you wrote:
> >Mike,
> >I wonder if you have purchased Cakewalk 5 or if you have obtained it
>from any ftp site on internet. I currently have Cakewalk 1.3 (mmmmm..)
> >and I would like to upgrade it to Cakewalk 5. How much does it costs? Or
> >where can I find it on internet?
> >Regards,
> >Alex.
> >
> >>From *@*.syntegra.net Thu Feb 19 12:07:01 1998
>> >>Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21])
>> >> by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04504;
>> >> Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:37:06 +0100 (MET)
>> >>Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
> >release
>> >> 1.8c) with spool id 0659 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Thu,
> >19 Feb
>> >> 1998 20:37:06 +0100
>> >>Received: from MNSi.Net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by
> >mail.rijnhaave.nl
>> >> (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA04439 for
> ><*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>;
>> >> Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:27:04 +0100 (MET)
>> >>Received: from mnsi.net.mnsi.net (dyn208-28-56-61.lon.mnsi.net
> >[208.28.56.61])
>> >> by MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id OAA04257 for
>> >> <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:24:10 -0500
>> >>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> >>X-Priority: 3
>> >>X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
>> >>MIME-Version: 1.0
>> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> >>Message-ID: <199802191924.*@*.Net>
>> >>Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:22:55 -0500
>> >>Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
>> >>Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
>> >>From: Mike Broer <*@*.NET>
>> >>Subject: N264 and Cakewalk 5
>> >>To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>> >>
>> >>Hello! i'm new to this list, i was wondering if anyone has
> >successfully
>> >>used the other banks(other than the GM) from the N264/364 with
> >cakewalk.
>> >>If you have, please help me!! Thank-you VERY much!!
>> >>
>> >>Mike Broer
>> >>
> >
> >
> >
Damn! I've got to learn how to work these fingers correctly. :)
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >
>> > >The drum pattern disk is not available via anonymous ftp.
> > ^^^
> >
> > I hope you mean 'now'? Hehe. :)
and cakewalk 7.0 is comin sooner than you think!
---Fedde Bouwman <f.s.*@*.UTWENTE.NL> wrote:
> >
> > Cakewalk 6.0 exists too !
Yes, I have successfully used all banks with cakewalk. Simply use bank select
messages. If you're using cakewalk for windows, download an instrument
definition from the website. Personally, I use cakewalk for DOS (my computer
is OLD). You just send a bank select message to choose which bank you want to
use (controller 0 and 32--it's in the manual somewhere).
You didn't hear this from me and I don't know who any of you are. I will
deny all knowledge of this message if asked. :)
I say Cakewalk 6.0 at www.sonic.net/~boom/warez today. It was three
disks. Wade through the porno ads and you'll see it listed.
Steve
Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> > I wonder if you have purchased Cakewalk 5 or if you have obtained it
> > from any ftp site on internet. I currently have Cakewalk 1.3 (mmmmm..)
> > and I would like to upgrade it to Cakewalk 5. How much does it costs? Or
> > where can I find it on internet?
> > Regards,
> > Alex.
> >
> > >From *@*.syntegra.net Thu Feb 19 12:07:01 1998
>> > >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21])
>> > > by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04504;
>> > > Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:37:06 +0100 (MET)
>> > >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
> > release
>> > > 1.8c) with spool id 0659 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Thu,
> > 19 Feb
>> > > 1998 20:37:06 +0100
>> > >Received: from MNSi.Net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by
> > mail.rijnhaave.nl
>> > > (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA04439 for
> > <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>;
>> > > Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:27:04 +0100 (MET)
>> > >Received: from mnsi.net.mnsi.net (dyn208-28-56-61.lon.mnsi.net
> > [208.28.56.61])
>> > > by MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id OAA04257 for
>> > > <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:24:10 -0500
>> > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> > >X-Priority: 3
>> > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
>> > >MIME-Version: 1.0
>> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> > >Message-ID: <199802191924.*@*.Net>
>> > >Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:22:55 -0500
>> > >Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
>> > >Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
>> > >From: Mike Broer <*@*.NET>
>> > >Subject: N264 and Cakewalk 5
>> > >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>> > >
>> > >Hello! i'm new to this list, i was wondering if anyone has
> > successfully
>> > >used the other banks(other than the GM) from the N264/364 with
> > cakewalk.
>> > >If you have, please help me!! Thank-you VERY much!!
>> > >
>> > >Mike Broer
>> > >
> >
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >
>> > >No
> >
> > Now, that's what I call a short and concise answer. :)
Kenneth,
I do hope you realize that I restated my position... :)
Tom
I'm using cakewalk 4, I think; do they have a higher version for DOS? I guess
it won't matter. My housemate has cakewalk home studio for windows. It has
neat graphical interfaces, but in many ways is less powerful than cakewalk 4
for DOS. Go figure. Of course it does digital audio, too, which my little
286 can't handle.
Anyway, back to the N364....
So am I to assume that an upgrade, of say, the arpeggiator functions is not
beyond the scope of imagination? can we get Korg to do this?
Alan Moore wrote:
> >
> > I'm using cakewalk 4, I think; do they have a higher version for DOS? I guess
> > it won't matter. My housemate has cakewalk home studio for windows. It has
> > neat graphical interfaces, but in many ways is less powerful than cakewalk 4
> > for DOS. Go figure. Of course it does digital audio, too, which my little
> > 286 can't handle.
> > Anyway, back to the N364....
> > So am I to assume that an upgrade, of say, the arpeggiator functions is not
> > beyond the scope of imagination? can we get Korg to do this?
Alan,
I'm currently working on that song...It's named "Dreamin'" or has that
title been used already.
Tom :)
what if i don't have the manual?? hah...:)
_________________________________________________________
mIcHaEl BrOeR
email: *@*.net
----------
> > From: Alan Moore <*@*.COM>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: N264 and Cakewalk 5
> > Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 9:03 PM
> >
> > Yes, I have successfully used all banks with cakewalk. Simply use bank
select
> > messages. If you're using cakewalk for windows, download an instrument
> > definition from the website. Personally, I use cakewalk for DOS (my
computer
> > is OLD). You just send a bank select message to choose which bank you
want to
> > use (controller 0 and 32--it's in the manual somewhere).
I'm trying to download the CW 6 version and just get garbage on the
screen Is there a trick to downloading the file. I tried another on
the site and had no problem but can't get CW 6. The three disks just
above CW 6 are version 5 which I already have...
Thnx
Tom
Do u have the right instument defntn file for cakewalk for N? If not
download the new one they hv fm the FTP site
ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001.
Goodluck
Hasnat
> >Hello! i'm new to this list, i was wondering if anyone has
successfully
> >used the other banks(other than the GM) from the N264/364 with
cakewalk.
> >If you have, please help me!! Thank-you VERY much!!
> >
> >Mike Broer
> >
> >Mike,
> >I wonder if you have purchased Cakewalk 5 or if you have obtained it
>from any ftp site on internet. I currently have Cakewalk 1.3 (mmmmm..)
> >and I would like to upgrade it to Cakewalk 5. How much does it costs?
Or
> >where can I find it on internet?
> >Regards,
> >Alex.
U can download only a DEMO version fm cakewalk site...
www.cakewalk.com They now have the Cakewalk 6.0 out. If u wannna but it
will probably cost u around 400 US.
ALEX-
i use cakewalk3and i prefer it to 4-
ive never used 5-but hear good things about 6...
i would suggest(if you are looking for updated cakewalk)to look for version3
or version6 (besides ive heard bad stuff about 5)
-ted-
> >Alon Lederman wrote:
>> >> another question: my parents are traveling to spain and holland. I guess
>> >> prices in these countriese are lower than here in recife, brazil (for
>> >> exapmle, a n264 was costing U$2800 here, and a marshall amplified speaker
>> >> about US$800). anyone has idea of prices on differents countries?
>> >> well, i think that's it. thank you in advance for any help,
>> >> beny
> >
Hi Beny.
I'm Spanish and I bought my N364 seven months ago. Now it's about $1700.
Thanks to the person who uploaded the rppr patern disk. The Jungletek rppr's
are amazing:)
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
If you don't mind.....where can you download the disk??
mb-out
_________________________________________________________
mIcHaEl BrOeR
email: *@*.net
----------
> > From: Steve Wallis <*@*.Net>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: RPPR Patern Disk
> > Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 7:44 AM
> >
> > Thanks to the person who uploaded the rppr patern disk. The Jungletek
rppr's
> > are amazing:)
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Steve Wallis
> > *@*.net
At 13:41 20-2-98 +0100, you wrote:
>> >>Alon Lederman wrote:
>>> >>> another question: my parents are traveling to spain and holland. I guess
>>> >>> prices in these countriese are lower than here in recife, brazil (for
>>> >>> exapmle, a n264 was costing U$2800 here, and a marshall amplified speaker
>>> >>> about US$800). anyone has idea of prices on differents countries?
>>> >>> well, i think that's it. thank you in advance for any help,
>>> >>> beny
>> >>
> >
> >Hi Beny.
> >I'm Spanish and I bought my N364 seven months ago. Now it's about $1700.
Hmmm...
I bought my N264 2 months ago, and I paid about $1400 for it.
(f 2800,- in dutch guilders)
Greetz,
Fedde
i got mine about a month ago for $2000.....that's in Canada.....and
btw.....i downloaded the .ins file for the n264 from that ftp site, and i
got cakewalk to use the names of all the patchs(yay!) but....i still can't
actually use the patches...i'm EXTREMELY fustrated.....does anyone know
what to do!? if so....THANK-YOU!!!
Mike Broer
_________________________________________________________
mIcHaEl BrOeR
email: *@*.net
----------
> > From: Fedde Bouwman <f.s.*@*.UTWENTE.NL>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: Prices in Spain
> > Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 2:14 PM
> >
> > At 13:41 20-2-98 +0100, you wrote:
>>> > >>Alon Lederman wrote:
>>>> > >>> another question: my parents are traveling to spain and holland. I
guess
>>>> > >>> prices in these countriese are lower than here in recife, brazil (for
>>>> > >>> exapmle, a n264 was costing U$2800 here, and a marshall amplified
speaker
>>>> > >>> about US$800). anyone has idea of prices on differents countries?
>>>> > >>> well, i think that's it. thank you in advance for any help,
>>>> > >>> beny
>>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >Hi Beny.
>> > >I'm Spanish and I bought my N364 seven months ago. Now it's about $1700.
> > Hmmm...
> >
> > I bought my N264 2 months ago, and I paid about $1400 for it.
> > (f 2800,- in dutch guilders)
> >
> > Greetz,
> >
> > Fedde
In a message dated 98-02-20 14:44:48 EST, you write:
<< got cakewalk to use the names of all the patchs(yay!) but....i still can't
actually use the patches...i'm EXTREMELY fustrated.....does anyone know
what to do!? if so....THANK-YOU!!!
Mike Broer
>>
mike - what exactly is the problem???
<<<i use my N364 with cakewalk...maybe i can help...
-ted-
> >Hello! i'm new to this list, i was wondering if anyone has successfully
> >used the other banks(other than the GM) from the N264/364 with cakewalk.
> >If you have, please help me!! Thank-you VERY much!!
I don't use Cakewalk, but you can find Cakewalk instrument definitions at
this address:
ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001
The file is "korg-ins.zip" or something like that. Unzip it and use either
KorgN364.ins or KorgN264.ins.
You can also find some other N-specific stuff at the address above.
At 04:10 1998-02-19 -0500, Alan Moore wrote:
> >Ok, I spent some time messing around with "color" on a white noise sample to
> >see how it affects the whole spectrum, and I noticed a reasonable amount of
> >high-pass filtering. The manual says it boosts the frequencies around the
> >cutoff point, so maybe color is just a really wimpy resonance with a crazy-
> >wide bandwidth.
Hey, you're right, color is actually hearable when testing it with samples
that contain some amount of (white) noise. But as you say, it sounds a lot
more like a crappy highpass filter than resonance.
I doubt that color boosts the frequencies near the filter cut-off. Seems
like bullshit.... ?
Anyway, it's totally unusable. The amount of color can't be changed in
realtime (unless in program mode via sysex perhaps), and new color values
won't be recognized until the next note-on message.
> >The thing that gets me is that Korg can come up with stuff like the
> >Wavestation, the prophecy, and the Z1, but they can't incorporate a simple
> >resonant filter into a workstation synth (of course, somehow they mananged to
> >put a killer wah effect in the fx processor).
It annoys me too. It would have been great fun to have a resonant filter.
The killer wah seems to come from tweaking the overdrive effect.
One thing I came to think of yesterday is to use the parametric EQ effect
as a bandpass/highpass filter, and to use the joystick to control the
intensity. Suddenly one of my "virtual analog" sounds got a lot more
interesting. :)
> >Oh, and as for the conspiracy, there's a new TV drama coming out about the
> >whole thing. It's called the "N files". Pretty scary. Among other things,
> >they'll uncover the secret of why Synth fx processors never feature
> >compression, and what the exact difference is between overdrive and
> >distortion. ;-)
Hehehe.. I'd much rather watch the "N files" instead of its X competitor
(not referring to the X-series now)! :)
i can only use the gm bank...and even then...i don't think it
is...hahah....i don't know a whole lot about midi....so...i want to use the
n264 as my sound source...but i don't know how....:)
_________________________________________________________
mIcHaEl BrOeR
email: *@*.net
----------
> > From: Ted Scheriff Jr. <*@*.COM>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: Prices in Spain
> > Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 3:00 PM
> >
> > In a message dated 98-02-20 14:44:48 EST, you write:
> >
> > << got cakewalk to use the names of all the patchs(yay!) but....i still
can't
> > actually use the patches...i'm EXTREMELY fustrated.....does anyone know
> > what to do!? if so....THANK-YOU!!!
> >
> > Mike Broer
> > >>
> > mike - what exactly is the problem???
> > <<<i use my N364 with cakewalk...maybe i can help...
> > -ted-
At 12:52 1998-02-18 -0800, Robert Neville wrote:
> >I need an instrument which gives me complete control over the synth sounds
> >and the ability to construst sounds from scratch.
You can create sounds from scratch, but you'll have to use the ROM samples
as oscillator waveforms. There are saw, square, ramp, sinus, pulse and pwm
waveforms to use for "analog" sounds, but the Nx64 doesn't have a good
filter. It's only lowpass, and there's no resonance. Bandpass and highpass
filter can be done by experimenting with fx processor settings.
There are LFOs for pitch and filter, and envelopes for amplitude, filter
and pitch. You can use two oscillators in one patch, and have different LFO
and envelope settings for each oscillator. You can also detune and delay
the oscillators from eachother.
There are two nice DSP fx processors with 47 effects, among them distortion
and overdrive.
However, if you want 100% control over everything, resonant multimode
filters and blazing analog sounds, then you ought to get a virtual analog
synthesizer (like the Nord Lead or Korg Z1) instead.
If you want great sounding real&synth instruments, nice drums + a bit of
analog possibilites, you should go for an Nx64!
Hey Steve Day,
I have sent numerous E-mails at your other address but I think you may
not be getting them. They show sent on this end and I've never had a
problem before.
Help,
Tom
At 13:22 1998-02-18 -0800, Steve wrote:
> >You can still get distortion from a larger amp if it has a poor
> >THD value. Good amps have a THD rating of .01 or less. Crappy amps have
> >a THD rating of .1 or greater.
Do you mean 0.01% or 0.01? My amp manual says 0.2% THD at 8 Ohm.
> > For your 250 watt speakers, I wouldn't use anything smaller than 100
> >watts per channel.
Went looking for a 75-100W amp on the net, but the prices were high...
> > I have Bose 901's that are rated at 270 watts. I run
> >them with a 100 watt JVC stereo and you don't turn it up more than about
> >1/4 of the way if you value your ears. :)
Are you using an "integrated" stereo amp with CD/tape/etc inputs that
doesn't need a preamp?
I value lots of bass more than I value my ears. :)
At 21:27 1998-02-18 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
> >It's not very healthy for speakers to use an amplifier with less power than
> >the speakers. The amplifier will clip when the sound is too loud, and destroy
> >the speakers.
Oops. I've played REAL loud, so I hope my speakers haven't been damaged in
some way...
> >Bass creates very high biases !
What is bias?
A big thank you to everybody who answered my amplifier question!
I learned a lot! Much appreciated!
And I've sent numerous emails to you as well. I don't know what's
going on. I thought it was rather strange that you didn't answer any of
them. :)
Try *@*.com and we'll see if it goes through that way. I've
been getting mail all day so I don't know why those aren't getting here.
I apologize to the list users for this personal transaction but there
appears to be a gremlin in the system.
Steve
Thomas Barrett wrote:
> >
> > Hey Steve Day,
> >
> > I have sent numerous E-mails at your other address but I think you may
> > not be getting them. They show sent on this end and I've never had a
> > problem before.
> >
> > Help,
> >
> > Tom
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >
> > At 13:22 1998-02-18 -0800, Steve wrote:
> >
>> > >You can still get distortion from a larger amp if it has a poor
>> > >THD value. Good amps have a THD rating of .01 or less. Crappy amps have
>> > >a THD rating of .1 or greater.
> >
> > Do you mean 0.01% or 0.01? My amp manual says 0.2% THD at 8 Ohm.
.01% :) Forgot them little signs. :) 0.2% is BAD! :) Mine is rated at
.005%.
> >
>> > > For your 250 watt speakers, I wouldn't use anything smaller than 100
>> > >watts per channel.
> >
> > Went looking for a 75-100W amp on the net, but the prices were high...
They always seem to want money for that stuff. :)
> >
>> > > I have Bose 901's that are rated at 270 watts. I run
>> > >them with a 100 watt JVC stereo and you don't turn it up more than about
>> > >1/4 of the way if you value your ears. :)
> >
> > Are you using an "integrated" stereo amp with CD/tape/etc inputs that
> > doesn't need a preamp?
Yes. It's a JVC RX-703-V 100 watts RMS per channel. I believe I paid
$469 for it when I bought it but that's been a few years ago.
> >
> > I value lots of bass more than I value my ears. :)
I can relate. :)
Steve
In a message dated 98-02-20 16:00:14 EST, you write:
<< i can only use the gm bank...and even then...i don't think it
is...hahah....i don't know a whole lot about midi....so...i want to use the
n264 as my sound source...but i don't know how....:)
>>
ok...go up to settings, go to "instruments"---you have to create a name for
the korg--
just call it korgN264(or whatever...)otherwise it thinks youre using whatever
instrument it already has listed...[i believe you have to go to "import"to
create a new instrument] all you have to do is name it!!! : )
if you can---download the definitions for the Nx64, this will automatically
give the names of the banks/programs when you use them...
otherwise, when you type in the #of the program you want...it will go a number
higher when you press enter...it will still be the program you want---it just
reads it differently...
i suggest you look for the instrument definitions...
good luck---hope i helped--- : )
-ted-
At 14:40 20/02/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >i got mine about a month ago for $2000.....that's in Canada.....and
> >btw.....i downloaded the .ins file for the n264 from that ftp site, and i
> >got cakewalk to use the names of all the patchs(yay!) but....i still can't
> >actually use the patches...i'm EXTREMELY fustrated.....does anyone know
> >what to do!? if so....THANK-YOU!!!
> >
Make sure there isnt anything in memory when you use cakewalk with your n-364.
hold down the 'seq' key and '8' while powering on to clear it. Also make sure
you press 'seq' each time you use cakewalk as your n364 must be in seq mode
to use external sequencers.
btw, im also in windsor and paid 2000$ for this n364 back in september. Gotta
love the way law and mcquade overprices everything:)
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
I got the n364. I pd CND1840~USD1270 for a brand new one
Hasnat
> >i got mine about a month ago for $2000.....that's in Canada.....and
> >btw.....i downloaded the .ins file for the n264 from that ftp site, and
i
> >got cakewalk to use the names of all the patchs(yay!) but....i still
can't
> >actually use the patches...i'm EXTREMELY fustrated.....does anyone know
> >what to do!? if so....THANK-YOU!!!
> >
> >Mike Broer
> >
> >_________________________________________________________
> >mIcHaEl BrOeR
> >email: *@*.net
> >
> >----------
>> >> From: Fedde Bouwman <f.s.*@*.UTWENTE.NL>
>> >> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>> >> Subject: Re: Prices in Spain
>> >> Date: Friday, February 20, 1998 2:14 PM
>> >>
>> >> At 13:41 20-2-98 +0100, you wrote:
>>>> >> >>Alon Lederman wrote:
>>>>> >> >>> another question: my parents are traveling to spain and holland.
I
> >guess
>>>>> >> >>> prices in these countriese are lower than here in recife, brazil
(for
>>>>> >> >>> exapmle, a n264 was costing U$2800 here, and a marshall amplified
> >speaker
>>>>> >> >>> about US$800). anyone has idea of prices on differents countries?
>>>>> >> >>> well, i think that's it. thank you in advance for any help,
>>>>> >> >>> beny
>>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Hi Beny.
>>> >> >I'm Spanish and I bought my N364 seven months ago. Now it's about
$1700.
>> >> Hmmm...
>> >>
>> >> I bought my N264 2 months ago, and I paid about $1400 for it.
>> >> (f 2800,- in dutch guilders)
>> >>
>> >> Greetz,
>> >>
>> >> Fedde
> >
Talking abt all this speaker/rcver stuff, I wonder how my audio system
stands out in all this.
I use very simple stuff since I am pure amateur. I just hv the
N...(offcourse), an integrated simple PIONEER stereo receiver model
no#SX253R (with CD/tape/aux...) rated for 8-16ohm spekers and 70Watts
per channel at 8ohm from 40-20000hz with no more than 0.9% total
harmonic distortion (Whatever these crap means, I hv no idea,
straight out of the manual :) ) Can somebody explain? And speakers?
I am using Simple BOSE 201 series III for receivers rated 10-120W.
Hasnat
>> >>You can still get distortion from a larger amp if it has a poor
>> >>THD value. Good amps have a THD rating of .01 or less. Crappy amps
have
>> >>a THD rating of .1 or greater.
> >
> >Do you mean 0.01% or 0.01? My amp manual says 0.2% THD at 8 Ohm.
> >
>> >> For your 250 watt speakers, I wouldn't use anything smaller than
100
>> >>watts per channel.
> >
> >Went looking for a 75-100W amp on the net, but the prices were high...
> >
>> >> I have Bose 901's that are rated at 270 watts. I run
>> >>them with a 100 watt JVC stereo and you don't turn it up more than
about
>> >>1/4 of the way if you value your ears. :)
> >
> >Are you using an "integrated" stereo amp with CD/tape/etc inputs that
> >doesn't need a preamp?
> >
> >I value lots of bass more than I value my ears. :)
Steve
I hope that's in CND 'cause I pd abt 1840with tax here in Ottawa in end
Sep'97
Hasnat
> >btw, im also in windsor and paid 2000$ for this n364 back in september.
Gotta
> >love the way law and mcquade overprices everything:)
> >
> >regards,
> >Steve Wallis
> >*@*.net
> >
At 01:22 21-2-98 +0100, you wrote:
> >At 21:27 1998-02-18 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
> >
>> >>It's not very healthy for speakers to use an amplifier with less power than
>> >>the speakers. The amplifier will clip when the sound is too loud, and
destroy
>> >>the speakers.
> >
> >Oops. I've played REAL loud, so I hope my speakers haven't been damaged in
> >some way...
> >
>> >>Bass creates very high biases !
> >
> >What is bias?
Current
Sorry, I didn't realize that it was an electrotechnical engineering term...
BTW: maybe I should have said that their was a *possibility* that the
speakers could
be damaged. It just not very healthy for them.
Fedde Bouwman
Holland
(student electrotechnical engineering :-)
It's possible to "emulate" both a resonant and a high-pass filter on the Nx64!
Yesterday I discovered that the overdrive (and distortion) effect can be
used to produce a resonant filter!
I took sample 330 (saw) and put overdrive on it. Then I tweaked the
overdrive parameters to produce lots of resonance at a high level, and then
assigned the value slider (and the joystick) to the resonance intensity.
After a bit of fiddling, I now have a cool growling analog sound!
Since the Nx64 has saw, square, ramp, pulse, pwm etc it's possible to do
nice analog sounds (not as nice as with a virtual analog synth, but nice
enough).
As I've said before, high-pass filter can be done by playing with the
parametric EQ effect (and control the intensity with either the joystick or
the value slider).
Since there are two fx processors in the Nx64, high filter and resonance
can be used at the same time.
Oh, and to do more fun stuff with your analog sound, try phaser 1 or 2 or
perhaps leslie! :)
Hi all,
Please forgive my ignorance, can I use two or more instruments on a
pattern? Thanks for you help.
Kevin.
At 12:30 1998-02-21 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
>> >>What is bias?
> >
> >Current.
Oh, ok.
> >Sorry, I didn't realize that it was an electrotechnical engineering term...
I guess it's a common term, but I haven't studied technical english yet. ;)
> >BTW: maybe I should have said that their was a *possibility* that the
> >speakers could be damaged. It just not very healthy for them.
Thanks for the warning though. I won't try to crank the speakers to death.
Atleast not until I get a more powerful amp. :)
BTW, I blew the bass cone on one of my previous speakers, but those
speakers were of very low quality...
i tryed that....it didn't work either. is there something i have to do on
the korg??
_________________________________________________________
mIcHaEl BrOeR
email: *@*.net
----------
> > From: Ted Scheriff Jr. <*@*.COM>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: Prices in Spain
> > Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 1:36 AM
> >
> > In a message dated 98-02-20 16:00:14 EST, you write:
> >
> > << i can only use the gm bank...and even then...i don't think it
> > is...hahah....i don't know a whole lot about midi....so...i want to use
the
> > n264 as my sound source...but i don't know how....:)
> > >>
> > ok...go up to settings, go to "instruments"---you have to create a name
for
> > the korg--
> > just call it korgN264(or whatever...)otherwise it thinks youre using
whatever
> > instrument it already has listed...[i believe you have to go to
"import"to
> > create a new instrument] all you have to do is name it!!! : )
> > if you can---download the definitions for the Nx64, this will
automatically
> > give the names of the banks/programs when you use them...
> > otherwise, when you type in the #of the program you want...it will go a
number
> > higher when you press enter...it will still be the program you want---it
just
> > reads it differently...
> > i suggest you look for the instrument definitions...
> > good luck---hope i helped--- : )
> > -ted-
At 01:43 1998-02-21 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
> >Make sure there isnt anything in memory when you use cakewalk with your
n-364.
> >hold down the 'seq' key and '8' while powering on to clear it.
!???!!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
You don't have to clear the sequencer!!!!!
You can safely play anything from Cakewalk on your N even if the sequencer
is 100% full.
> >Also make sure you press 'seq' each time you use cakewalk as your n364
must be
> >in seq mode to use external sequencers.
Or send a nice little GM reset message to the N from Cakewalk.
At 16:54 1998-02-20 -0800, Steve wrote:
>> >> Do you mean 0.01% or 0.01? My amp manual says 0.2% THD at 8 Ohm.
> >
> > .01% :) Forgot them little signs. :) 0.2% is BAD! :) Mine is rated at
> >.005%.
That's what I suspected... :(
> >It's a JVC RX-703-V 100 watts RMS per channel. I believe I paid
> >$469 for it when I bought it but that's been a few years ago.
I'll probably buy something like that.
At 21:07 1998-02-19 -0500, Alan Moore wrote:
> >So am I to assume that an upgrade, of say, the arpeggiator functions is not
> >beyond the scope of imagination? can we get Korg to do this?
I guess the arpeggiator is 100% controlled by software, so a new ROM could
very well fix the problems!
Ask Korg if they're going to release any new ROMs. If nobody finds any bugs
or problems with the current ROM, they won't do a new one. So go a ahead
and send them your complaints:
*@*.com
There are a couple of other email addresses too, but I don't know them...
At 09:22 1998-02-20 -0500, Mike Broer wrote:
> >If you don't mind.....where can you download the disk??
ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/ and the file is "rpprdrum.zip".
At 19:25 1998-02-19 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
> >I'm trying to download the CW 6 version and just get garbage on the
> >screen
Your browser reads the file as text because it doesn't recognize the file
extension (or file type). If you're using Netscape Navigator, press right
mouse on the link and select "save link as".
what the hell!
this list is infected with engineering students?
thank you all for your attention and your answers.
btw: i'm also a engineering student...nobody is perfect....
beny
Alon Lederman wrote:
> >
> > what the hell!
> >
> > this list is infected with engineering students?
> >
> > thank you all for your attention and your answers.
> >
> > btw: i'm also a engineering student...nobody is perfect....
> >
> > beny
Hey Beny,
To what message are you responding?
Tom
At 23:53 20/02/98 PST, you wrote:
> >Steve
> >
> >I hope that's in CND 'cause I pd abt 1840with tax here in Ottawa in end
> >Sep'97
> >
> >Hasnat
I paid aproximately 2000$ canadain including taxes. Still think I paid too much
tho. The Xp50 was only 2300$ +tax, wish I would have snagged that instead..oh
well-live and learn i guess:)
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
> >I paid aproximately 2000$ canadain including taxes. Still think I paid
too much
> >tho. The Xp50 was only 2300$ +tax, wish I would have snagged that
instead..oh
> >well-live and learn i guess:)
> >
> >regards,
> >
> >Steve Wallis
> >*@*.net
Yup, live and learn..... I dont know much abt the roland XP50 all I
know it costs more than n364. What do it hv more that N doesn't? I
know it's expandable for sounds and has mirc chip for faster response or
something..... BTW in ottawa xp50 is 2000+tax but I didn't hv the cash
+ for some reason I had a mind for KORG and 2nd roland... So I dont
know if I made a mistake...but so far Korg is suiting me fine..:)
Hasnat
> >Yup, live and learn..... I dont know much abt the roland XP50 all I
> >know it costs more than n364. What do it hv more that N doesn't? I
> >know it's expandable for sounds and has mirc chip for faster response or
> >something..... BTW in ottawa xp50 is 2000+tax but I didn't hv the cash
> >+ for some reason I had a mind for KORG and 2nd roland... So I dont
> >know if I made a mistake...but so far Korg is suiting me fine..:)
> >
> >Hasnat
Well both the xp50 and n364 are excellant boards but when it comes down to
features the xp50 takes the prize. Xp50 has resonance, filters, real time
sliders and major upgrade ability(dance,techno, vintage synth, orchestral,
hip hop, drum and bass exapansion boards ect...) Wish Korg would have
incorporated at least some of these features into the n364 but they seem
content to keep releasing the same piece of gear under new names(X3/n364/T
series/M1 ect..) They all sound the same with very little features to
compromise. Like the arpegiater in the n364..its pretty much worthless. You
cant even tell how many bpm the thing is clocking at, it uses some freak
number instead which is virtually impossible to sync to your tracks(Ive had no
luck with it anyways)and its not very programable. The rppr features on the
N364 are excellant tho. I love the way we can assign entire patterns to a
single key(comes in great for live use). And most importantly the sounds of
the n364 are amazing. Granted we've heard them on every other korg synth
pretty much but there still awesome. I like this synth dont get me wrong I
just wish Korg
would have taking the time to put more features into it.
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
i know one difference between korg and most other keyboard brands, cept
alesis MAYBE....korg sounds are MUCH MUCH bigger. if u goof around on a
bunch of different boards, as i've done for MANY hours...you'll soon agree.
it's not even extremely noticeable to the ear always. it's how the sounds
play. btw.....a note of interest for some of you maybe, it has nothing to
do with korg or N or anything...BUT! a friend of mine went to a roland
demo in toronto last weekend i think it was....and he saw (i might be off a
little) but i think it was a sampler. but....it had a light sensored
modulation. you could assign a number of different things to it....say you
assigned temp.....and then started a beat, as you move your hand around the
beat changes tempo...kinda like automatic toilets or handryers!! it's
sounds REALLY cool to me!! the buddy of mine is gonna buy one, or so he
says....dreams is more like it...they're over $3000...so.....the price is
high..but it would be a REALLY cool toy!! hah...anyways! hope you find
that interesting....
mb-out
_________________________________________________________
mIcHaEl BrOeR
email: *@*.net
----------
> > From: Hasnat M <*@*.COM>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: Prices in Spain
> > Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 3:23 AM
> >
>> > >I paid aproximately 2000$ canadain including taxes. Still think I paid
> > too much
>> > >tho. The Xp50 was only 2300$ +tax, wish I would have snagged that
> > instead..oh
>> > >well-live and learn i guess:)
>> > >
>> > >regards,
>> > >
>> > >Steve Wallis
>> > >*@*.net
> >
> >
> > Yup, live and learn..... I dont know much abt the roland XP50 all I
> > know it costs more than n364. What do it hv more that N doesn't? I
> > know it's expandable for sounds and has mirc chip for faster response or
> > something..... BTW in ottawa xp50 is 2000+tax but I didn't hv the cash
> > + for some reason I had a mind for KORG and 2nd roland... So I dont
> > know if I made a mistake...but so far Korg is suiting me fine..:)
> >
> > Hasnat
> >
> >
k...i did all that.....which by the way almost made me lose a gig!!
hahah...i didn't realize it would clear all the rppr's as well!! i lost
one that i needed for that night....and i didn't think i'd put it on disk
yet....but...luckily i had! i was scared. but anyways...thanks for all
the help...everyone...but it still won't work! hah..maybe i'm dumb! i've
got the instrument definition file from that ftp site (which by the way i
can't seem to get to again! hmm...), i tried clearing the memory and being
in sequencer mode...umm...i don't need an audio send do i?? i don't think i
do...i just have midi...but....anyother suggestions?? sorry for the
pain..but i REALLY need to get this working! thank-you all SO MUCH!
mb-out
_________________________________________________________
mIcHaEl BrOeR
email: *@*.net
----------
> > From: Steve Wallis <*@*.Net>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: Prices in Spain
> > Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 1:43 AM
> >
> > At 14:40 20/02/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> > >i got mine about a month ago for $2000.....that's in Canada.....and
>> > >btw.....i downloaded the .ins file for the n264 from that ftp site, and
i
>> > >got cakewalk to use the names of all the patchs(yay!) but....i still
can't
>> > >actually use the patches...i'm EXTREMELY fustrated.....does anyone know
>> > >what to do!? if so....THANK-YOU!!!
>> > >
> >
> > Make sure there isnt anything in memory when you use cakewalk with your
n-364.
> > hold down the 'seq' key and '8' while powering on to clear it. Also make
sure
> > you press 'seq' each time you use cakewalk as your n364 must be in seq
mode
> > to use external sequencers.
> >
> > btw, im also in windsor and paid 2000$ for this n364 back in september.
Gotta
> > love the way law and mcquade overprices everything:)
> >
> > regards,
> > Steve Wallis
> > *@*.net
Please remove me from this mailing list. thanks
> >
Thanx Steve for the details. Wish what u are saying was true too about
korg hving more features...I guess it means if u want more, spend some
more dough on synths :)
Hasnat
> >
> >Well both the xp50 and n364 are excellant boards but when it comes down
to
> >features the xp50 takes the prize. Xp50 has resonance, filters, real
time
> >sliders and major upgrade ability(dance,techno, vintage synth,
orchestral,
> >hip hop, drum and bass exapansion boards ect...) Wish Korg would have
> >incorporated at least some of these features into the n364 but they
seem
> >content to keep releasing the same piece of gear under new
names(X3/n364/T
> >series/M1 ect..) They all sound the same with very little features to
> >compromise. Like the arpegiater in the n364..its pretty much worthless.
You
> >cant even tell how many bpm the thing is clocking at, it uses some
freak
> >number instead which is virtually impossible to sync to your tracks(Ive
had no
> >luck with it anyways)and its not very programable. The rppr features on
the
> >N364 are excellant tho. I love the way we can assign entire patterns to
a
> >single key(comes in great for live use). And most importantly the
sounds of
> >the n364 are amazing. Granted we've heard them on every other korg
synth
> >pretty much but there still awesome. I like this synth dont get me
wrong I
> >just wish Korg
> >would have taking the time to put more features into it.
> >
> >regards,
> >
> >Steve Wallis
> >*@*.net
> >
ken-
i use cakewalk---(i know you dont, but)
can i use this to effect one or two tracks without effecting the rest--
perhaps if the rest of my sequence consists of drums/strings/bass/etc...
if i do this to emulate a filter sound on say, a square or saw...would it
effect the other sounds???
-ted-
oh-yeah---it has to be in sequence mode!!! : )
-ted-
mike-
i believe what you're describing is called a "theremin"
-ted-
At 14:42 21-2-98 +0100, you wrote:
> >It's possible to "emulate" both a resonant and a high-pass filter on the
Nx64!
> >
> >Yesterday I discovered that the overdrive (and distortion) effect can be
> >used to produce a resonant filter!
> >
> >I took sample 330 (saw) and put overdrive on it. Then I tweaked the
> >overdrive parameters to produce lots of resonance at a high level, and then
> >assigned the value slider (and the joystick) to the resonance intensity.
> >After a bit of fiddling, I now have a cool growling analog sound!
> >
> >Since the Nx64 has saw, square, ramp, pulse, pwm etc it's possible to do
> >nice analog sounds (not as nice as with a virtual analog synth, but nice
> >enough).
> >
> >
> >As I've said before, high-pass filter can be done by playing with the
> >parametric EQ effect (and control the intensity with either the joystick or
> >the value slider).
> >
> >Since there are two fx processors in the Nx64, high filter and resonance
> >can be used at the same time.
> >
> >Oh, and to do more fun stuff with your analog sound, try phaser 1 or 2 or
> >perhaps leslie! :)
Cool....
I you have made some cool analog sounds, could you please share them with
us ???
Thanks,
Fedde Bouwman
At 04:47 22-2-98 -0500, you wrote:
>> >>Yup, live and learn..... I dont know much abt the roland XP50 all I
>> >>know it costs more than n364. What do it hv more that N doesn't? I
>> >>know it's expandable for sounds and has mirc chip for faster response or
>> >>something..... BTW in ottawa xp50 is 2000+tax but I didn't hv the cash
>> >>+ for some reason I had a mind for KORG and 2nd roland... So I dont
>> >>know if I made a mistake...but so far Korg is suiting me fine..:)
>> >>
>> >>Hasnat
> >
> >Well both the xp50 and n364 are excellant boards but when it comes down to
> >features the xp50 takes the prize. Xp50 has resonance, filters, real time
> >sliders and major upgrade ability(dance,techno, vintage synth, orchestral,
> >hip hop, drum and bass exapansion boards ect...) Wish Korg would have
> >incorporated at least some of these features into the n364 but they seem
> >content to keep releasing the same piece of gear under new names(X3/n364/T
> >series/M1 ect..) They all sound the same with very little features to
> >compromise. Like the arpegiater in the n364..its pretty much worthless. You
> >cant even tell how many bpm the thing is clocking at, it uses some freak
> >number instead which is virtually impossible to sync to your tracks(Ive
had no
> >luck with it anyways)and its not very programable. The rppr features on the
> >N364 are excellant tho. I love the way we can assign entire patterns to a
> >single key(comes in great for live use). And most importantly the sounds of
> >the n364 are amazing. Granted we've heard them on every other korg synth
> >pretty much but there still awesome. I like this synth dont get me wrong I
> >just wish Korg
> >would have taking the time to put more features into it.
Ok, Roland maybe has a resonant filter. But the analog patches from the
Korg sound
better than the ones from the Roland. The expansion boards from Roland are
cool,
but cost a lot of money, I would rather have a new sound module. The
realtime sliders
of the Roland are hardly used practically in the patches. (and Korg has a
4-direction
joystick, with 1 slider and 1 pedal, enough for me)
One important difference however is that the samples from the XP50 are of
higher quality
(44.1 Khz, 16 bit), providing some realistic instruments. (also more sample
ROM, 16 MB
instead of 8 MB). Roland has, for example, rather good piano's. (but its
drum sounds are
crap)
For live performance (fat synthesizer sounds) I would prefer a Korg much to
a Roland.
Its combinations are very practical, and sound great !
I also like the design and keyboard of the N-series more.
I think that Korg wanted to make an mid-class synthesizer with the
N-series, they wanted
to keep the synthesizer cheap. The Trinity has much new options (48 Khz 16
bit samples
in 24 Mb ROM, high/low/bandpass and resonance filters, 14 effects at the
same time from
a selection of 100 !!!, and it is very upgradeable), but you have to pay a
price for it....
BTW: in Holland costs the XP50 as much as the N364. (but I still bought
the Korg :-)
On Sat, Feb 21, 1998 at 05:07:56PM +0100, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
>> > >Also make sure you press 'seq' each time you use cakewalk as your n364
> > must be in seq mode to use external sequencers.
> >
> > Or send a nice little GM reset message to the N from Cakewalk.
I started playing with Cakewalk the other day, and I had not only to
press 'seq' at the beginning, but also to set GM mode on the current
song. And sometimes it would go back to a fixed (wrong) patch when
starting play, and I'd have to do that again on the synth.
How does one send GM reset messages from Cakewalk?
And how does one use the other program banks, and select patches in them?
And finally.. before I start really learning Cakewalk, is that a good
choice? or should I try cubase instead?
For the keyboard or the software? I meant the keyboard manual.
What mode are you in on the keyboard when you sequence? You can sequence from
either sequencer mode or combi mode (provided that all the channels are set to
their own midi channel. You can only use 8 channels this way but I rarely use
more than six or seven with what I do and it's a lot easier to set patches and
stuff.)
If you do it from combi, you must also set the patch select fileter (in the
global menu) to NUM (I think, I'm trying to remember--I set it once a long
time ago and haven't needed to set it since).
Other than that, I'd have to be sitting down with it to help you.
At 18:17 22/02/98 EST, you wrote:
> >ken-
> >
> >i use cakewalk---(i know you dont, but)
> >can i use this to effect one or two tracks without effecting the rest--
> >perhaps if the rest of my sequence consists of drums/strings/bass/etc...
> >if i do this to emulate a filter sound on say, a square or saw...would it
> >effect the other sounds???
> >-ted-
If you use parellel 3 and properly adjust the c/d sends it wont effect your
other channels. Just spend some time tweaking the overdrive/eq effect to
get the best sound out of it under parallel 3.
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
Yeah, I've been using the wha effect a lot; I play in a funk band, so I use
some nifty clav sounds with the wha filter set to VDA-EG (basically an
envelope filter). The only problem with that is that you're using the fx
processors, which ,as you know, you only have two of, so if you're sequencing
or using some of the massive splits that I use sometimes, that's one less
effect and send that I have available for other stuff.
Color is minimally usefull in making sounds nasal, I've found, which is good
sometimes for stuff like clav or lead sounds, but once again, why not just put
a HPF in there? Why did they go to the trouble of inventing some parameter
that nobody has heard of before that doesn't do much?
It'd be cool, too if I could modulate that resonant wha with the LFO or it's
own envelope, which is what bums me out about it being an effect. Oh well; I
guess that's why they make analogue modelling synths.
BTW, I read a review about the Z1 in Electronic Musician. Sounds like a
killer machine. I was thinking about adding a yamaha an1x to my rig (when I
get that million dollar record deal--pshaw!), but maybe the Z1 would be
cooler....hmmmm...
:-)
Alan
At 17:07 21/02/98 +0100, you wrote:
> >At 01:43 1998-02-21 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
> >
>> >>Make sure there isnt anything in memory when you use cakewalk with your
> >n-364.
>> >>hold down the 'seq' key and '8' while powering on to clear it.
> >
> >!???!!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
> >
> >You don't have to clear the sequencer!!!!!
> >
> >You can safely play anything from Cakewalk on your N even if the sequencer
> >is 100% full.
I have to clear the memory of the n364 everytime i use external sequencers or
it just doesnt play right(this happens to me in both cakewalk and windows
media player btw)
At 15:16 22/02/98 PST, you wrote:
> >Thanx Steve for the details. Wish what u are saying was true too about
> >korg hving more features...I guess it means if u want more, spend some
> >more dough on synths :)
> >
> >Hasnat
Unfortunately thats always the case..arghh! :)
So many synths..so little money hehe
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
If you use this on two tracks, though, keep in mind that their both going
through one filter, so it may not sound exactly right. That is to say, if you
have one sustained sound that's keeping the filter open, the other sounds are
not going to have much of a wha effect. I'm having trouble explaining it.
It's kind of like if you send more than one track into one channel of a
compressor; you don't get them both compressed, you just get the sum
compressed.
Ok that's even more confusing. Never mind.
Like I said, though, you can't use an LFO or a discrete envelope to modulate
this resonant filter. And you only have them in the fx, which means that if
you need chorus or reverb or any other two effects, you can't do it.
Still, it sounds good. I almost bought a quadrasynth, but I found out it
doesn't have distortion or filters (I think) so I bought the Korg. The
distortion is killer. I use it on about 80 percent of my sounds.
I like using distortion on drum tracks when I sequence; it adds a little extra
punch. You can make the bass drum rather impressive, too.
What kind of music does everyone make with their N364?
Please remove me from this mailing list. Thank you.
Just wanted to thank the quite large number of people who responded to my
newbie question. Thanks very much. This list works and seems friendly
even to the beginner. I think that I am going to go ahead with the n-364.
Wish me luck.
Robert
i think im seeing the problem here...
people are asking why do the patches automatically change to gm??
ive had this problem...
you cant write a song on the on-board sequencer and translate it for
cakewalk---
if you want to use cakewalk---you have to start writing the song on
cakewalk!!!
as for your finished songs?---i found that i just have to fix the banks to the
proper ones... but you have to do it everytime you open the file...
hope i could help : )
-ted-
thanx steve i do understand : )
i program elektro/darkwave
kinda anywayz...
i have an extra N264 keyboard manual, is that what u need?
_________________________________________________________
mIcHaEl BrOeR
email: *@*.net
----------
> > From: Alan Moore <*@*.COM>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: N264 and Cakewalk 5
> > Date: Sunday, February 22, 1998 10:51 PM
> >
> > For the keyboard or the software? I meant the keyboard manual.
for me the problem is that i can't use any patches from my N! i'm starting
in cakewalk.....the N's manual is NO help...and i don't have the cakewalk
manual..so...arg!
_________________________________________________________
mIcHaEl BrOeR
email: *@*.net
----------
> > From: Ted Scheriff Jr. <*@*.COM>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N
> > Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 2:06 AM
> >
> > i think im seeing the problem here...
> > people are asking why do the patches automatically change to gm??
> > ive had this problem...
> > you cant write a song on the on-board sequencer and translate it for
> > cakewalk---
> > if you want to use cakewalk---you have to start writing the song on
> > cakewalk!!!
> > as for your finished songs?---i found that i just have to fix the banks
to the
> > proper ones... but you have to do it everytime you open the file...
> > hope i could help : )
> > -ted-
u have any songs to share?
_________________________________________________________
mIcHaEl BrOeR
email: *@*.net
----------
> > From: Ted Scheriff Jr. <*@*.COM>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: Resonant and hi-pass filters!!
> > Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 2:10 AM
> >
> > thanx steve i do understand : )
> > i program elektro/darkwave
> > kinda anywayz...
> > What kind of music does everyone make with their N364?
> >
industrial!! wooo =D er i try my best.
Hi all!
In order to have cakewalk sequence loading the GM bank every time you
open that specific sequence, you have to insert two "Control Change"
controllers and a "Patch Change" at the beggining of each track on that
sequence. I don't remember which is the correct Control Change for GM,
but if you wanted to set all tracs to play on bank C you shuld insert
the following parameters at the beggining of each track:
Type of Controller Value(decimal) NOTE
===================================================================
Control Change 00 This will tell N264 that the
following Control Change is
the bank selection
===================================================================
Control Change 02 This will tell N264 that the
bank C has been selected for
this specific track.(See NOTE).
===================================================================
Patch Change XX Where XX is the Patch number
that you want to use on that
track.
===================================================================
NOTE: 00 will select Bank A
01 will select Bank B
02 will select Bank C
03 will select Bank D
?? will select Bank GM (See manual for further information).
On cakewalk 1.3 you add a Controller (control change or patch change) by
clicking with the right mouse button on the desired track and choosing
the Event Browser option for the pop-up menu. Then just press the Insert
Key of your PC keyboard and a menu will come up. Choose the desire
controller and you are done!!!!
I hope this can help...
Regards,
Alejandro.
>From *@*.syntegra.net Mon Feb 23 10:30:35 1998
> >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21])
> > by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07303;
> > Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:14:09 +0100 (MET)
> >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
release
> > 1.8c) with spool id 1304 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Mon,
23 Feb
> > 1998 19:14:08 +0100
> >Received: from MNSi.Net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by
mail.rijnhaave.nl
> > (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07297 for
<*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>;
> > Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:14:06 +0100 (MET)
> >Received: from mnsi.net.mnsi.net (dyn208-6-76-213.lon.mnsi.net
[208.6.76.213])
> > by MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id NAA00245 for
> > <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:12:24 -0500
> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >X-Priority: 3
> >X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >Message-ID: <199802231812.*@*.Net>
> >Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:07:34 -0500
> >Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
> >Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
> >From: Mike Broer <*@*.NET>
> >Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N
> >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> >
> >for me the problem is that i can't use any patches from my N! i'm
starting
> >in cakewalk.....the N's manual is NO help...and i don't have the
cakewalk
> >manual..so...arg!
> >
> >_________________________________________________________
> >mIcHaEl BrOeR
> >email: *@*.net
> >
> >----------
>> >> From: Ted Scheriff Jr. <*@*.COM>
>> >> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>> >> Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N
>> >> Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 2:06 AM
>> >>
>> >> i think im seeing the problem here...
>> >> people are asking why do the patches automatically change to gm??
>> >> ive had this problem...
>> >> you cant write a song on the on-board sequencer and translate it for
>> >> cakewalk---
>> >> if you want to use cakewalk---you have to start writing the song on
>> >> cakewalk!!!
>> >> as for your finished songs?---i found that i just have to fix the
banks
> >to the
>> >> proper ones... but you have to do it everytime you open the file...
>> >> hope i could help : )
>> >> -ted-
> >
At 15:35 1998-02-22 -0500, Mike Broer wrote:
> >it had a light sensored modulation. you could assign a number of
> >different things to it....say you assigned temp.....and then started a beat,
> >as you move your hand around the beat changes tempo...
I saw a bit about that on the Digital Hell mailing list. It'll also be
possible to buy a stand-alone sensor midi controller to connect with any
synth/keyboard/computer.
The joystick and the value slider on my N364 is good enough for me. :)
At 18:23 1998-02-22 -0500, Ted Scheriff Jr. wrote:
> >mike-
> >i believe what you're describing is called a "theremin"
Nopes. A Theremin (named after the constructor I believe) is one of the
very first synthesizers ever made, far back in time (don't know exactly
when, but it's a long time ago). You (can) could control the pitch and
volume of a simple soundwave (sinus or something) by moving your hand
up/down and towards/away from an antenna.
The idea is similar, but it's not the same device. :)
At 02:06 1998-02-23 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
> >If you have made some cool analog sounds, could you please share them with
> >us ???
I might very well do that some time. For now I'm busy shaping them as I
want them to sound.
At 02:08 1998-02-23 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
> >One important difference however is that the samples from the XP50 are of
> >higher quality (44.1 Khz, 16 bit)
What frequency/bitwidth is the Nx64 using?
> >The Trinity has much new options (48 Khz 16`bit samples in 24 Mb ROM,
> >high/low/bandpass and resonance filters, 14 effects at the same time from
> >a selection of 100 !!!
That settles it. I'll go rip the mainboard out of a Trinity and integrate
it with my N364, to make it provide 64 voice polyphony! :)
At 23:10 1998-02-22 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
> >I have to clear the memory of the n364 everytime i use external sequencers or
> >it just doesnt play right(this happens to me in both cakewalk and windows
> >media player btw)
Very strange. I've been using all sorts of midi players and sequencers
(including Cubasis/Cubase/Cakewalk) in win95, and it always plays right.
And I've got several of the songs in the internal sequencer filled with
data...
What is it that is played wrong? Wrong programs? Then it's probably a
filter setting in global edit mode on your N.
At 23:31 1998-02-22 -0500, Alan Moore wrote:
> >If you use this on two tracks, though, keep in mind that their both going
> >through one filter, so it may not sound exactly right. That is to say, if
you
> >have one sustained sound that's keeping the filter open, the other sounds are
> >not going to have much of a wha effect.
Very true. I don't use both in any of my analog sounds, but since it's
possible I just had to say so. :)
At 23:37 1998-02-22 -0500, Alan Moore wrote:
> >Like I said, though, you can't use an LFO or a discrete envelope to modulate
> >this resonant filter.
Nopes. But you can assign it to a controller (like the joystick/slider) and
play with it like #¤!"¤% from an external sequencer. :)
You could use an external midi programming language to construct an LFO
that sends data to a specified controller (i.e. modulation), and assign
that controller to resonance depth. Not very handy, but it would work.
> >And you only have them in the fx, which means that if
> >you need chorus or reverb or any other two effects, you can't do it.
You can use overdrive and reverb at the same time (and parallell 3 fx
placement). That's enough for most songs.
> >I like using distortion on drum tracks
Me too! I changed some of the drums in A09 Zulu Kit and added distortion to
some of the bassdrums and a snare. I think it sounds a whole lot better
now. ;)
> >What kind of music does everyone make with their N364?
I do all kinds of music, but mainly techno/rave/trance/dance. My N364 is
the cornerstone from which I currently take ALL my sounds.
At 21:47 1998-02-22 -0800, Robert Neville wrote:
> >I think that I am going to go ahead with the n-364. Wish me luck.
Nice choice. May the force be with you! :)
At 02:06 1998-02-23 -0500, Ted Scheriff Jr. wrote:
> >you cant write a song on the on-board sequencer and translate it for
> >cakewalk---
I doubt that. Haven't tried it yet, but I will soon. I'm sure it's possible
in some way.
At 13:07 1998-02-23 -0500, Mike Broer wrote:
> >for me the problem is that i can't use any patches from my N! i'm starting
> >in cakewalk.....
If you have the Cakewalk instrument definition for the Nx64 it will work
(depending on which version of Cakewalk you use). It works for me.
At 12:50 1998-02-23 -0800, Kaliss Elinon wrote:
>> >> What kind of music does everyone make with their N364?
>> >>
> >industrial!! wooo =D er i try my best.
Industrial? Hmm.. yum yum! :)
i have it and it won't work....i got cakewalk 5....i'm going nuts
here...haha...
_________________________________________________________
Mike Broer
email: *@*.net
----------
> > From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N
> > Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 8:10 PM
> >
> > At 13:07 1998-02-23 -0500, Mike Broer wrote:
> >
>> > >for me the problem is that i can't use any patches from my N! i'm
starting
>> > >in cakewalk.....
> >
> > If you have the Cakewalk instrument definition for the Nx64 it will work
> > (depending on which version of Cakewalk you use). It works for me.
> >Ok, Roland maybe has a resonant filter. But the analog patches from the
> >Korg sound
> >better than the ones from the Roland. The expansion boards from Roland
are
> >cool,
> >but cost a lot of money, I would rather have a new sound module.
An Amateur q probably.... I am hearing about these sound modules, what
exactly are they and how they work?
> >The realtime sliders of the Roland are hardly used practically in the
patches. (and Korg has a 4-direction joystick, with 1 slider and 1
pedal, enough for me)
> >One important difference however is that the samples from the XP50 are
of higher quality (44.1 Khz, 16 bit), providing some realistic
instruments. (also more sample ROM, 16 MB instead of 8 MB).
What quality of sample was used in N? 44.1khz/22??
hasnat
At 01:23 24/02/98 +0100, you wrote:
> >At 02:08 1998-02-23 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
> >
>> >>One important difference however is that the samples from the XP50 are of
>> >>higher quality (44.1 Khz, 16 bit)
The N364 uses 16 bit 44khz samples aswell. The samples in the xp50 are not
of a higher quality-someone once told me they were 18 bit 44khz but ive
yet to see any actual specs to confirm this.
> >What frequency/bitwidth is the Nx64 using?
> >
>> >>The Trinity has much new options (48 Khz 16`bit samples in 24 Mb ROM,
>> >>high/low/bandpass and resonance filters, 14 effects at the same time from
>> >>a selection of 100 !!!
> >That settles it. I'll go rip the mainboard out of a Trinity and integrate
> >it with my N364, to make it provide 64 voice polyphony! :)
lol, just remember to send one this way aswell if you ever accomplish that:)
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
At 01:41 24/02/98 +0100, you wrote:
> >At 23:10 1998-02-22 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
> >
>> >>I have to clear the memory of the n364 everytime i use external sequencers or
>> >>it just doesnt play right(this happens to me in both cakewalk and windows
>> >>media player btw)
> >
> >Very strange. I've been using all sorts of midi players and sequencers
> >(including Cubasis/Cubase/Cakewalk) in win95, and it always plays right.
> >And I've got several of the songs in the internal sequencer filled with
> >data...
> >What is it that is played wrong? Wrong programs? Then it's probably a
> >filter setting in global edit mode on your N.
Could be, I dont really mess around with the global settings often as I dont
really know how to configure things yet. What happens tho is it'll sometimes
default to the programs in the n364 memory instead of playing the channels that
are sent to the n364-i have to clear the memory and sometimes even manually
set the channels on the n364. This happens with Gm/GS tunes-it rarely plays
them right. Even when I load them into the n364 I get the same problems at
times
At 21:05 23/02/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >i have it and it won't work....i got cakewalk 5....i'm going nuts
> >here...haha...
Do this then: Download a cakewalk .ins file for the N364 and rename it to
'master.ins' then simply copy it into your n364 directory. If the .ins is
correct it will work without problems. Remember to backup the original
master.ins first tho.
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
Hello Here!
I've just joined the list and hopefully I will get some answers out of you
;-)
Here we go...
I've succesfully created a few "mixer"-maps in Cubase for the N364, they
include things like volume, pan, bend-range, VCF-cutoff, attack, release
etc.
But, how do I do the following from Cubase/MIDI when the N364 is in
sequencer-mode:
a) Set a track to a different MIDI-channel?
b) Create a mixer-map that controls the effects?
c) Mute a track?
It's the MIDI-specifications I just can't grasp. To change a parameter in a
sound via MIDI isn't hard, it is explained in the MIDI-specifications in
the manual (n364 that is) but I can't see a way to control the things
mentioned above.
Help me please, I'm getting sick of this trial and error...
Regards
L a v i s
E - m a i l: *@*.se
On Tue, Feb 24, 1998 at 12:26:09AM -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
> > This happens with Gm/GS tunes-it rarely plays
> > them right. Even when I load them into the n364 I get the same problems at
> > times
well, the N is n't GS-compatible, says the manual. has anyone found a
way to play midi GS files by converting the patches on the fly? it
sounds like sequencers ought to be able to do that.
Can we synchronize the arp. if we use an external sequencer, like a PC?
That way we can at least use arp. during live performances, which is now
impossible.
-Toon
At 15.12 +0100 98-02-24, Toon Theuwis wrote:
> >Can we synchronize the arp. if we use an external sequencer, like a PC?
> >That way we can at least use arp. during live performances, which is now
> >impossible.
To the best of my knowledge, it is simply not possible.
Regards
L a v i s
E - m a i l: *@*.se
with an external sequencer-just do it manually---
write it i mean...its not that hard...
-ted-
Yeah; somewhere in there it tells you how to send bank select messages. If
I'm remembering right, send controller zero with a value of zero, followed by
controller 32 with a value of 0, 1, 2, or 3 depending on if you want bank a,
b, c, or d (respectively).
For the GM sounds, send a controller 0 with a value of 52, followed by a
controller 32 with a value of 0 (I may have the values switched there). I
believe the GM drumkits work the same, except you send a controller 0 with a
value of 62 instead.
It should definitly be possible. I believe (but I forget at the moment) that
you can save individual songs as midi files. Since the Korg saves on DOS
formatted disks, you should be able to pop these right out of the korg and
into your PC, then load in the file.
Alternately, you can sync up cakewalk to the internal synth by designating the
clock as external (in the global parameter) and just hitting record on
cakewalk. Then you have to use the "interpolate" feature (though this is not
found on Cakewalk Home studio; I don't know about cakewalk 5) to separate the
tracks by channel number.
I may be wrong about some of that, but theoretically it should work.
NO.
This is what I've been whining about. The arpeggiator is useless. Useless.
We just have to let it go and pretend like it isn't there. You can't even
sync it to it's own midi clock, let alone an external one. Someone over at
Korg had a brainfart on this one.
pardon my stupidity...but i have NO IDEA how to do that.....could u
explain that? THANK-YOU!!
_________________________________________________________
Mike Broer
email: *@*.net
----------
> > From: Alan Moore <*@*.COM>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: N264 and Cakewalk 5
> > Date: Tuesday, February 24, 1998 7:59 PM
> >
> > Yeah; somewhere in there it tells you how to send bank select messages.
If
> > I'm remembering right, send controller zero with a value of zero,
followed by
> > controller 32 with a value of 0, 1, 2, or 3 depending on if you want bank
a,
> > b, c, or d (respectively).
> > For the GM sounds, send a controller 0 with a value of 52, followed by a
> > controller 32 with a value of 0 (I may have the values switched there).
I
> > believe the GM drumkits work the same, except you send a controller 0
with a
> > value of 62 instead.
> >What mode are you in on the keyboard when you sequence? You can
sequence from
> >either sequencer mode or combi mode (provided that all the channels are
set to
> >their own midi channel.
How do u sequence using Combi mode? All I know is if u wanna use
combi, u copy a combi on to the seq.
Hasnat
You can only use 8 channels this way but I rarely use
> >more than six or seven with what I do and it's a lot easier to set
patches and
> >stuff.)
> >If you do it from combi, you must also set the patch select fileter (in
the
> >global menu) to NUM (I think, I'm trying to remember--I set it once a
long
> >time ago and haven't needed to set it since).
> >Other than that, I'd have to be sitting down with it to help you.
> >
I hv some q but it has almost nothing to do with N...maybe..
Some software q to be exact?!? what is an Editor/Librarian? I think
u use programs like SoundDriver fm Emagic.
Hasnat
hi everybody!
first of all,i dont want to start a roland X korg fight here, just want to
have some opinions from other persons who like making music like me.
i dont know if you agree with me, but i heard a soundcanvas from roland at a
friend's house and some sounds seemed much better than korg's - the acoustic
sounds like saxophone or piano, or even the power drums- korg's drums seem
they are being heard through a pipe-, but no doubt the synth sounds of korgs
are much better- they're heavier, fatter.
now i was wondering if i should buy a small sound module- like soundcanvas,
for about U$200,00 and use it together with my n364. then i would have both
korg and roland sounds... Is it worthy? does someone uses something like that?
beny
i'm planning on getting a roland tone module too. as soon as i get
some $$$. its worthy. you get the best of both worlds
---Beny Lederman <*@*.COM.BR> wrote:
> >
> > hi everybody!
> >
> > first of all,i dont want to start a roland X korg fight here, just
want to
> > have some opinions from other persons who like making music like me.
> >
> > i dont know if you agree with me, but i heard a soundcanvas from
roland at a
> > friend's house and some sounds seemed much better than korg's - the
acoustic
> > sounds like saxophone or piano, or even the power drums- korg's
drums seem
> > they are being heard through a pipe-, but no doubt the synth sounds
of korgs
> > are much better- they're heavier, fatter.
> >
> > now i was wondering if i should buy a small sound module- like
soundcanvas,
> > for about U$200,00 and use it together with my n364. then i would
have both
> > korg and roland sounds... Is it worthy? does someone uses something
like that?
> >
> > beny
> >
At 16:39 1998-02-25 -0300, Beny Lederman wrote:
> >i dont know if you agree with me, but i heard a soundcanvas from roland at a
> >friend's house and some sounds seemed much better than korg's - the acoustic
> >sounds like saxophone or piano, or even the power drums- korg's drums seem
> >they are being heard through a pipe-, but no doubt the synth sounds of korgs
> >are much better- they're heavier, fatter.
You can improve the drums of your N a lot by altering the RAM drumkit
setups. I agree that the GM drumkits on the N aren't very nice though.
> >now i was wondering if i should buy a small sound module- like soundcanvas,
> >for about U$200,00 and use it together with my n364. then i would have both
> >korg and roland sounds... Is it worthy? does someone uses something like
that?
If you can get a great-sounding module that completes your music setup for
as little as $200, then go ahead and buy it!
In a message dated 98-02-26 00:55:02 EST, you write:
<< >i dont know if you agree with me, but i heard a soundcanvas from roland at
a
>friend's house and some sounds seemed much better than korg's - the acoustic
>sounds like saxophone or piano, or even the power drums- korg's drums seem
>they are being heard through a pipe-, but no doubt the synth sounds of korgs
>are much better- they're heavier, fatter.
You can improve the drums of your N a lot by altering the RAM drumkit
setups. I agree that the GM drumkits on the N aren't very nice though.
>>
no korg drums are good-korg is good for sweeping sounds-synth sounds-etc...
drums-are not korg's greatest area!!!!!at all!
But what is the cost of a Korg N in Spain?
:-)
Tom
> > well, the N is n't GS-compatible, says the manual. has anyone found a
> > way to play midi GS files by converting the patches on the fly? it
Disabling Bank Changes is one easy way that usually works.
jg.
> > Please forgive my ignorance, can I use two or more instruments on a
> > pattern? Thanks for you help.
Yes. You need to set up Seq mode like a Combi - with different tracks
set to the SAME MIDI channel, and with key windows set.
Or, if you want to layer the pattern, just set up different tracks to the
same MIDI channel, with different sounds.
jg.
At 01:00 26-2-98 EST, you wrote:
> >In a message dated 98-02-26 00:55:02 EST, you write:
> >
> ><< >i dont know if you agree with me, but i heard a soundcanvas from
roland at
> >a
>> > >friend's house and some sounds seemed much better than korg's - the
acoustic
>> > >sounds like saxophone or piano, or even the power drums- korg's drums seem
>> > >they are being heard through a pipe-, but no doubt the synth sounds of
korgs
>> > >are much better- they're heavier, fatter.
> >
> > You can improve the drums of your N a lot by altering the RAM drumkit
> > setups. I agree that the GM drumkits on the N aren't very nice though.
> > >>
> >no korg drums are good-korg is good for sweeping sounds-synth sounds-etc...
> >drums-are not korg's greatest area!!!!!at all!
I do not agree.
A friend of my has an Roland XP-50, and we both think that the N-drumkits
are better. Maybe it is just what you like, Roland drums have much high
frequencies. (all Roland sounds have added high)
I like the modern/productivity kits from Korg. (a whole lot of
bassdrums/snares in one kit !)
The GM kits are maybe less good. The Power drum kit uses early reflection,
that is the tube-like sound you heared. (much used by Phill Collins)
But most probably, you can expect better drum kits from the more expansive
sound modules (EMU ?).
BTW: I agree that most of the acoustic sounds from Roland are better...
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
At 12:46 26-2-98 +0100, you wrote:
> >At 01:00 26-2-98 EST, you wrote:
>> >>In a message dated 98-02-26 00:55:02 EST, you write:
>> >>
>> >><< >i dont know if you agree with me, but i heard a soundcanvas from
> >roland at
>> >>a
>>> >> >friend's house and some sounds seemed much better than korg's - the
> >acoustic
>>> >> >sounds like saxophone or piano, or even the power drums- korg's drums
seem
>>> >> >they are being heard through a pipe-, but no doubt the synth sounds of
> >korgs
>>> >> >are much better- they're heavier, fatter.
>> >>
>> >> You can improve the drums of your N a lot by altering the RAM drumkit
>> >> setups. I agree that the GM drumkits on the N aren't very nice though.
>> >> >>
>> >>no korg drums are good-korg is good for sweeping sounds-synth sounds-etc...
>> >>drums-are not korg's greatest area!!!!!at all!
> >I do not agree.
> >A friend of my has an Roland XP-50, and we both think that the N-drumkits
> >are better. Maybe it is just what you like, Roland drums have much high
> >frequencies. (all Roland sounds have added high)
> >
> >I like the modern/productivity kits from Korg. (a whole lot of
> >bassdrums/snares in one kit !)
> >The GM kits are maybe less good. The Power drum kit uses early reflection,
> >that is the tube-like sound you heared. (much used by Phill Collins)
> >But most probably, you can expect better drum kits from the more expansive
> >sound modules (EMU ?).
> >
> >BTW: I agree that most of the acoustic sounds from Roland are better...
> >
> >Greetz,
> >
> >Fedde Bouwman
> >
I am sorry I had enabled the option read notification request. I wanted to
test that feature. I expected to receive an notification from the server,
but it seems that it doesn't work that way...
does anyone know of it's possible to copy to banks c or d??? other than
re-initializing the keyboard that is....
At 12:31 26-2-98 -0500, you wrote:
> >does anyone know of it's possible to copy to banks c or d??? other than
> >re-initializing the keyboard that is....
> >
Banks C&D are in ROM, so it isn't possible !
> > one example of how I use that arp. I go into seq mode, then down to arp
> > mode, hit rec, start and simply record arpeggio (up, down, skip 1 or
> > whatever else mode, doesn't actually matter) into seq. which quantizes > it pretty nicely. By playing with different arp speeds and quantize
> > values one can get some pretty funky and weird patterns. And I mean
> > some awesome, funky, and weird patterns. Now, vary the velocity of the
> > notes, make different sounds (programs) play different parts of the
> > pattern (sounds especially good for 4 octave arpeggios), add some
> > extreme effects, and you got one hell of a groove!
Dmitry,
I haven't really gotten into the arp yet but have followed some of the
talk here. This thought struck me and it's probably way off base but if
you can put it into the sequencer, can you control the speed through the
sequencer tempo. If so, couldn't one copy that song at the right speed
into a song where you wanted the arp to sinc? Wouldn't that solve the
problem?
I'll probably get slammed on this one but, what the heck, brainstorming
gets a lot done in the world so I'll shoot it out there.
Tom
Hi all,
I find all these messages with a subject of "Prices in Spain" annoying.
There's nothing relevant in the messages to do with Spain.
Please change the heading to something meaningful when you create a new
message!
Peter
At 12:31 26/02/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >does anyone know of it's possible to copy to banks c or d??? other than
> >re-initializing the keyboard that is....
> >
Banks c and d are rom banks. You can't write on it.
Grok.
I just want to comment on N364's arpeggiator. This arpeggiator is one of the
best thing I like about my N. It is so unique, so unsyncable! Yes, I
acknowledge the fact that it might be somewhat difficult to use live
together with other instruments, however, it is capable of producing some
pretty interesting stuff that you won't be able to get otherwise. Here is
one example of how I use that arp. I go into seq mode, then down to arp
mode, hit rec, start and simply record arpeggio (up, down, skip 1 or
whatever else mode, doesn't actually matter) into seq. which quantizes it
pretty nicely. By playing with different arp speeds and quantize values one
can get some pretty funky and weird patterns. And I mean some awesome,
funky, and weird patterns. Now, vary the velocity of the notes, make
different sounds (programs) play different parts of the pattern (sounds
especially good for 4 octave arpeggios), add some extreme effects, and you
got one hell of a groove!
I like how Z1's and Kawai's K5K's syncable polyphonic arpeggiators sound,
but somehow I never use them. N does ALL the "arpeggio" job for me.
Dmitry
hi everybody!
sorry to bother you again, but i'm still not sure of what kind of equipment
i should buy for my keyboard.
i decided to buy a microsystem , with a receiver and a cassete recorder-
nothing more, for the health of my pocket. this should cost about u$
200-300-400. Now i dont know some 'details', like for example: how many
Watts the system should have? i know how much more, the better, but i want
the speakers only for my room, so i dont need volume, but quality. another
thing: when we say a receiver is 100W, that means that its power consumption
is 100W? and it sends 50W for each speaker?do you think a receiver of 46W
(rms) with two speakers of, lets say, 30W is enough to have a good quality
sound, without distortion or undefined sounds?
another thing: is the internal equalizer important? are 3-band enough?
has anyone heard of companies like sony and philips in this kind of
equipments? i know they exist, but are they good?
another curiosity: does someone now how can i convert from PMPO to RMS?
im sorry that my e-mail is like a questionary, but you're my only source of
information. here in my city (and it's quite a big city-a couple of million
habitants) we dont have shops and professionals to deal with it. so any help
will be appreciated.
thank you,
beny
Thomas Barrett wrote,
> > if
> >you can put it into the sequencer, can you control the speed through the
> >sequencer tempo. If so, couldn't one copy that song at the right speed
> >into a song where you wanted the arp to sinc? Wouldn't that solve the
> >problem?
As far as I'm concerned, you can't directly control the arpeggiator's speed
with the sequencer. However, you can match arp's speed and seq tempo, so
that the procedure you've described, Tom, can be more or less accomplished.
I think, if you set your seq tempo to 120, quantize resolution to, say, 1/8
note and arpeggiator speed to something like 48 (speed 48 pretty much
corresponds to the 8th note at 120 bpm), and record, that should give you
some decent "synchronization", although this is not exactly how I use it.
For me, the best part is when seq is trying to quantize arpeggio which
doesn't match its tempo and drifts (I usually make my arpeggio run ~2 times
faster than seq's 8th note), cutting out some notes, stretching others, and
creating some really interesting patterns (works really well for techno
stuff).
Dmitry
Beny Lederman wrote:
> >
> > hi everybody!
> > sorry to bother you again, but i'm still not sure of what kind of equipment
> > i should buy for my keyboard.
> >
> > i decided to buy a microsystem , with a receiver and a cassete recorder-
> > nothing more, for the health of my pocket. this should cost about u$
> > 200-300-400. Now i dont know some 'details', like for example: how many
> > Watts the system should have? i know how much more, the better, but i want
> > the speakers only for my room, so i dont need volume, but quality. another
> > thing: when we say a receiver is 100W, that means that its power consumption
> > is 100W? and it sends 50W for each speaker?do you think a receiver of 46W
> > (rms) with two speakers of, lets say, 30W is enough to have a good quality
> > sound, without distortion or undefined sounds?
Good amps are rated at Watts per channel. If you don't intend to
provide music for the entire neighborhood, 50 watts rms per channel will
do fine. It depends on the kind if load you intend to drive. Small
speakers that don't require a lot of power to drive don't require a huge
amp to do it.
A 100 watt rms per channel amplifier does not draw 200 watts
continuously. It only draws the power required to run its circuits plus
whatever power it is required to put to the speakers. The louder you
play it, the more power it consumes.
> >
> > another thing: is the internal equalizer important? are 3-band enough?
That's just a matter of taste and what your hearing requirements are.
If the overall frequency range of the sustem is good, it won't make a
lot of difference but you just won't have that much control over the
tonal range.
> >
> > has anyone heard of companies like sony and philips in this kind of
> > equipments? i know they exist, but are they good?
They both have good and bad equipment and they are both well known.
> >
> > another curiosity: does someone now how can i convert from PMPO to RMS?
This is a trick question. Any amp that gives "PMPO" for its rating
isn't worth the powder to blow it to hell with. Peak Music Power Output
is a method of inflating wattage of an amp way beyond what it truly is.
What they normally do to arrive at this ridiculous number is take the
peak output (which is about 20% higher than the rms value), double it
and then, if it's a stereo amp, double it again. The impedance of the
load is also a factor. If the PMPO is given for a 4 ohm load and you're
using 8 ohm speakers, then the PMPO is divided in half. This gives a
very high number (using a 4 ohm load) but the amp can only sustain it
for a few microseconds before scattering itself.
To convert this number to true rms per channel, you need to reverse
their idiotic formula. Even then it may not be the correct number. See
how they added up the numbers, divide as indicated above and then
multiply the resultant "peak power" for one channel by .8 to give the
RMS value. You can then divide that number in half if the load is 8 ohms
instead of 4. An example:
An amplifier is rated at 200 watts PMPO into 4 ohms, both channels
driven. Reality:
Divide 200 by 2 to get the PMPO of 1 channel. That gives 100 watts.
Divide it by 2 again because they double it, claiming that the amp can
supply twice it's rated value on peaks. That drops it to 50 watts peak
into 4 ohms for each channel. Multiply 50 times .8 to get the RMS value
and you get 40 watts RMS per channel into 4 ohms or 20 watts RMS per
channel into 8 ohms.
They above may not be exact but it gives a pretty fair idea of how
they inflate the numbers and you should always go by the RMS watts per
channel into 8 ohms to get the true power of the amp.
Hope this answers some of your questions.
Steve
Beny,
Listen to Steve on this one. PMPO AMPS ARE GARBAGE!! Been there, done
that!!!!!!!
Good advise Steve; wish I had some of your knowledge. Constantly workin
on that tho.
Tom
steven: thanks for your answers. how do you know so much?
now let me reformulate one of my questions, which was indeed not clear: if a
receiver doesn't have in any place written how many Watts it is, but in its
rear its written 'power consumption 60W', it is what we call a 60W
amplifier? and it sends 30 W per channel?
and another thing i forgot to ask: are the speakers that come with the
systems usually good enough? they dont say how many Watts they are...
beny
Beny Lederman wrote:
> >
> > steven: thanks for your answers. how do you know so much?
Part of it comes from being old and the other part comes from the
days when I used to repair stereo and TV's. :)
> >
> > now let me reformulate one of my questions, which was indeed not clear: if a
> > receiver doesn't have in any place written how many Watts it is, but in its
> > rear its written 'power consumption 60W', it is what we call a 60W
> > amplifier? and it sends 30 W per channel?
The power consumption, written in that manner, is the power required
to run the device. It has nothing to do with the total watts that the
amplifier can produce. If the amp contains an inefficient power supply,
and other components, it will consume more power than a good amp,
putting out the same wattage. The actual output power (total of both
channels combined) will always be somewhat less than the power
consumption listed on the back. As an example, the ratings of my amp
are:
100 watts per channel, min. RMS both channels driven into 8 ohms from
20Hz to 20kHz with no more than .007% total harmonic distortion.
The power total consumption is 370 watts.
As you can see, the amp requires 370 watts of input power to produce 200
watts of output power.
> > and another thing i forgot to ask: are the speakers that come with the
> > systems usually good enough? they dont say how many Watts they are...
Speakers that come with with systems are usually pretty well balanced
for the system they are attached to. That doesn't mean they are good
speakers and it doesn't mean that a more efficient pair of speakers in
the same wattage range wouldn't make the setup sound much better.
When buying complete systems, you have to balance where the money is
being put to keep the cost down. If it's a well balanced system, the
money should be split across all components to give a good system. Some
of them put all the money into the amp/radio portion and skip on the
speakers because people will buy it for the fancy features offered,
rather than how it really sounds when they get it home.
To all those on the list. If this is of no interest to the rest of you,
we will take it to email and I'll be happy to answer any questions I
can.
Steve
Steve,
I find the dialogue quite interesting. No need to move on my part.
Tom
At 20:23 1998-02-27 -0400, Dmitry wrote:
> >I just want to comment on N364's arpeggiator.
> >By playing with different arp speeds and quantize values one
> >can get some pretty funky and weird patterns. And I mean some awesome,
> >funky, and weird patterns. Now, vary the velocity of the notes, make
> >different sounds (programs) play different parts of the pattern (sounds
> >especially good for 4 octave arpeggios), add some extreme effects, and you
> >got one hell of a groove!
This sounds very interesting!
So, the arpeggiator isn't useless after all. :)
At 00:58 1998-02-28 -0300, Beny Lederman wrote:
> >another thing: is the internal equalizer important? are 3-band enough?
You can use it as a low/mid/high-pass filter, which is useful sometimes.
If you want more control of the sound, get an external equalizer.
At 01:00 1998-02-26 -0500, Ted Scheriff Jr. wrote:
> >no korg drums are good-korg is good for sweeping sounds-synth sounds-etc...
> >drums-are not korg's greatest area!!!!!at all!
I don't agree. There are several drum sounds that sound real good. Listen
carefully to ALL drum samples in the N, and I'm sure you'll find several
goodies.
Many of the snares aren't too great, but some of them sound a lot better at
a different pitch.
There are no good preset techno kits, but it's possible to do one. Mine
sounds ok. The GM kits suck hard, but there are other kits that are better.
B19 Combo Kit is fine after a bit of customising.
Customise, customise, customise. :)
At 14:43 1998-02-26 +0100, Fedde Bouwman wrote:
> >I am sorry I had enabled the option read notification request. I wanted to
> >test that feature. I expected to receive an notification from the server,
> >but it seems that it doesn't work that way...
Don't you receive a copy of your sent mail from the server? Everybody
should, unless the mail server has gone haywire...
There are also other ways to receive notification from the server, telling
you that your mail has been delivered. Contact me privatly for more
information, or request info from the server itself.
At 18:17 1998-02-22 -0500, Ted Scheriff Jr. wrote:
> >i use cakewalk---(i know you dont, but)
> >can i use this to effect one or two tracks without effecting the rest--
> >perhaps if the rest of my sequence consists of drums/strings/bass/etc...
> >if i do this to emulate a filter sound on say, a square or saw...would it
> >effect the other sounds???
Use Parallell3 as effect placement in seq edit page 7E. If you put the
overdrive as effect 1, then set send C (seq edit page 1A) to 0 for
instruments that aren't to be affected.
At 03:14 1998-02-23 +0100, Roger Espel Llima wrote:
> >How does one send GM reset messages from Cakewalk?
If you're using a new version of Cakewalk (I don't know how it's done on
older versions), you can open the sysex window (View/Sysex) and load
"gmsystem.syx" into one of the available slots. Change the port number to
the midi port that you control your N with, and set the auto flag. This
settings is saved with the current song.
The next time you load the song, Cakewalk will ask if it shall send the
sysex messages that are stored with the song. Answer yes to that question,
and the N will be put in seq mode song 9.
You could also create the same sysex event and put it in one of the tracks.
> >And how does one use the other program banks, and select patches in them?
Download KorgN364.ins from ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001. It's in a zip file
that I can't remember the name of, but "instrument"-something I think...
I've done a new .ins file (N364.ins) in which I've combined the best from
KorgN264.ins and KorgN364.ins, which I'll probably make available pretty soon.
Please notice that one of the present .ins files doesn't have a full midi
controller implementation. I think it is KorgN264.ins.
> >And finally.. before I start really learning Cakewalk, is that a good
> >choice? or should I try cubase instead?
I've used both Cubase 3.5 VST and Cakewalk Pro Audio 6. Cakewalk might be
harder to use for beginners, but it has more functions and is more
powerful. Cubase looks better, but Cakewalk works better.
After getting into Cakewalk, I don't want to use Cubase again.
At 23:07 1998-02-22 -0500, Alan Moore wrote:
> >Color is minimally usefull in making sounds nasal, I've found, which is good
> >sometimes for stuff like clav or lead sounds, but once again, why not just
put
> >a HPF in there? Why did they go to the trouble of inventing some parameter
> >that nobody has heard of before that doesn't do much?
Nobody knows. Perhaps "N-files" can give us answers? :)
> >It'd be cool, too if I could modulate that resonant wha with the LFO or it's
> >own envelope, which is what bums me out about it being an effect.
I think joystick control is better, since it offers unlimited variation.
> >BTW, I read a review about the Z1 in Electronic Musician. Sounds like a
> >killer machine. I was thinking about adding a yamaha an1x to my rig (when I
> >get that million dollar record deal--pshaw!), but maybe the Z1 would be
> >cooler....hmmmm...
The AN1-X is cheaper, but perhaps the Z1 is cooler? Have only listened to
the AN1-X, and it sounded marvellous.
At 20:44 1998-02-23 -0800, Hasnat M wrote:
> >An Amateur q probably.... I am hearing about these sound modules, what
> >exactly are they and how they work?
Basically, a sound module is a small synthesizer without keys. In order to
make it sound, you must use an external keyboard (or sequencer) and MIDI
cables.
It usually has an LCD display and a set of buttons (just like a full-size
synth) so it can be programmed.
The Korg NS5R is a sound module (which more or less is a small version of
the N1/N5). The Korg Trinity is available in sound module version soon.
A sound module is always cheaper than its full-size counterpart. And it
doesn't take up much space.
At 00:17 1998-02-24 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
>> >>That settles it. I'll go rip the mainboard out of a Trinity and integrate
>> >>it with my N364, to make it provide 64 voice polyphony! :)
> >
> >lol, just remember to send one this way aswell if you ever accomplish that:)
Hmm.. come to think of it, it'll be a lot easier (and probably cheaper
aswell) to buy the sound module version of the Trinity. :)
At 00:26 1998-02-24 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
>>> >>>I have to clear the memory of the n364 everytime i use external
sequencers or
>>> >>>it just doesnt play right(this happens to me in both cakewalk and windows
>>> >>>media player btw)
>> >>
>> >>Very strange. I've been using all sorts of midi players and sequencers
>> >>(including Cubasis/Cubase/Cakewalk) in win95, and it always plays right.
>> >>And I've got several of the songs in the internal sequencer filled with
>> >>data...
>> >>What is it that is played wrong? Wrong programs? Then it's probably a
>> >>filter setting in global edit mode on your N.
> >
> >Could be, I dont really mess around with the global settings often as I dont
> >really know how to configure things yet. What happens tho is it'll sometimes
> >default to the programs in the n364 memory instead of playing the channels
that
> >are sent to the n364-i have to clear the memory and sometimes even manually
> >set the channels on the n364. This happens with Gm/GS tunes-it rarely plays
> >them right. Even when I load them into the n364 I get the same problems at
> >times
Oh, now I see.
The Nx64 will always go back to its default program settings (such as GM
Piano 1 with level 100) when you press reset on the Nx64, and in some other
circumstances aswell (like when switching songs in the internal sequencer I
think?).
This is because programs/level/sendC&D etc settings aren't stored in the N
if they come from an external sequencer. These settings are only temporary,
which infact is a good idea. They will also be reset when you switch off
the N and switch it on again.
If you manually set programs/level/etc it will be permanent though.
Some GM songs use the wrong programs (i.e. they don't use the GM sounds
they're supposed to). This is easily fixed by changing a few parameters in
global mode. Take a careful look at the table on page 43 in the Basic Guide
("Chapter 10: Playing GM Songs"). Especially 3C Program Change Filter
ENA/NUM. Try set it to NUM, and the GM song should play correctly. Beware
that you can only play GM sounds when the filter is set to NUM though.
At 12:30 1998-02-24 +0100, Thomas Lawergren wrote:
> >I've succesfully created a few "mixer"-maps in Cubase for the N364, they
> >include things like volume, pan, bend-range, VCF-cutoff, attack, release
> >etc.
Could you please send a map to me? I took a quick look at DMaker and didn't
run it again. :)
Perhaps you could upload the Cubase mixermap for the Nx64 to
ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/uploads ?
> >But, how do I do the following from Cubase/MIDI when the N364 is in
> >sequencer-mode:
> >
> >a) Set a track to a different MIDI-channel?
Non-realtime sysex perhaps, but I'm not sure if it's possible.
> >b) Create a mixer-map that controls the effects?
I've tried to find a sysex command that sets which effect to use in
sequencer mode, but I haven't found anything. The MIDI implementation
charts don't mention effect settings in conjunction with sequencer mode...
I hope somebody finds out how to do this. It would definately be nice to be
able to set fx 1 & 2 from an external sequencer...
> >Help me please, I'm getting sick of this trial and error...
Try your luck with Korg support (*@*.com). They should
have the answer, but I have my doubts. ;)
At 20:10 1998-02-24 -0800, Hasnat M wrote:
> >Some software q to be exact?!? what is an Editor/Librarian?
An editor/librarian is used to edit and/or store programs & songs from
synthesizers. With an N-specific external editor, it would be possible to
edit program parameters on your N using your computer. And with an
N-specific librarian it would be possible to audition/send a single (or
several) program/combi to the N via midi.
Unfortunately there is no N-specific editor/librarian yet, but development
is under way.
> >At 20:44 1998-02-23 -0800, Hasnat M wrote:
> >
>> >>An Amateur q probably.... I am hearing about these sound modules, what
>> >>exactly are they and how they work?
> >
> >Basically, a sound module is a small synthesizer without keys. In order
to
> >make it sound, you must use an external keyboard (or sequencer) and
MIDI
> >cables.
> >
> >It usually has an LCD display and a set of buttons (just like a
full-size
> >synth) so it can be programmed.
> >
> >The Korg NS5R is a sound module (which more or less is a small version
of
> >the N1/N5). The Korg Trinity is available in sound module version soon.
> >
> >A sound module is always cheaper than its full-size counterpart. And it
> >doesn't take up much space.
Sounds superb. Can u hook up any sound module fm any manufacturer
(Roland/EMU/Yamaha...) to the N and get sounds.... How much do they
usally costs....something like the NS5R?
Hasnat
Kenneth Jonsson writes:
> > An editor/librarian is used to edit and/or store programs & songs from
> > synthesizers. With an N-specific external editor, it would be possible to
> > edit program parameters on your N using your computer. And with an
> > N-specific librarian it would be possible to audition/send a single (or
> > several) program/combi to the N via midi.
> > Unfortunately there is no N-specific editor/librarian yet, but
development
> > is under way.
I keep hearing rumors that "development is under way." Who is doing this
development? What are the plans for completion? What language is being
used? Can I help? I'm a programmer (mostly C/C++) and I've been thinking of
trying my hand at a more serious Visual Basic project to learn it in more
depth. Maybe this would be a good application. But I don't really want to
duplicate any efforts if something is coming out soon.
John
(John.*@*.com)
I use my N-264 as the MIDI input to my Pentium 60 (Windows
95) with Finale, Cakewalk Pro, and Jammer Pro. The problem
is with Finale (version 2.2). After I use the program once
or twice, the fonts go haywire. The treble clef sign turns
into an ampersand, quarter notes turn into capital "I's"
that cover the entire staff. I must remove and reinstall
Finale in order for it to work again. I have found that the
Finale instructions must be removed from the Win.ini file
for the reinstall to cure the problem.
Has anyone encountered this problem before? If not, do you
know of a source that could provide insight into the
resolution?
I will not be able to upgrade Finale until late this year,
so I am anxious to resolve this problem.
Thanks for any help you could provide!
At 23.39 +0100 98-03-01, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
>> >>I've succesfully created a few "mixer"-maps in Cubase for the N364, they
>> >>include things like volume, pan, bend-range, VCF-cutoff, attack, release
>> >>etc.
> >
> >Could you please send a map to me? I took a quick look at DMaker and didn't
> >run it again. :)
DMaker? Eh, que? I created them in Cubase directly, I guess that DMaker is
some sort of PC-program that ships with Cubase right?
> >Perhaps you could upload the Cubase mixermap for the Nx64 to
> >ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/uploads ?
Yes I can do that, when I figure out the thing about setting the
pitch-bend, somehow it's all screwed up.
>> >>But, how do I do the following from Cubase/MIDI when the N364 is in
>> >>sequencer-mode:
>> >>
>> >>a) Set a track to a different MIDI-channel?
> >
> >Non-realtime sysex perhaps, but I'm not sure if it's possible.
Would be great for layering sounds though ;-)
>> >>b) Create a mixer-map that controls the effects?
> >
> >I've tried to find a sysex command that sets which effect to use in
> >sequencer mode, but I haven't found anything. The MIDI implementation
> >charts don't mention effect settings in conjunction with sequencer mode...
> >
> >I hope somebody finds out how to do this. It would definately be nice to be
> >able to set fx 1 & 2 from an external sequencer...
Well, here's a little tip for you. Set up all of the internal songs after a
special "format". I have reverb and chorus as effects in the first song
(0), reverb and distorsion in the second (1) and so forth. This gives me
the opportunity to simply switch song (from within Cubase of course) and
have different effects. (Yes, my mixermap contains a "song-selector".)
>> >>Help me please, I'm getting sick of this trial and error...
> >
> >Try your luck with Korg support (*@*.com). They should
> >have the answer, but I have my doubts. ;)
Ok, mailed there just a few seconds ago...
Regards
L a v i s
E - m a i l: *@*.se
At 21.45 +0100 98-03-01, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >Many of the snares aren't too great, but some of them sound a lot better at
> >a different pitch.
> >
> >There are no good preset techno kits, but it's possible to do one. Mine
> >sounds ok. The GM kits suck hard, but there are other kits that are better.
> >B19 Combo Kit is fine after a bit of customising.
I don't agree that the totally suck. Try them with a bit of
distorsion/overdrive, record them in VST and pitch-correct them, but then
it isn't GM anymore is it ;-)
> >Customise, customise, customise. :)
Yep, does a lot of good to my sounds too...
Regards
L a v i s
E - m a i l: *@*.se
At 17:33 1998-03-01 -0800, Hasnat M wrote:
>> >>A sound module is always cheaper than its full-size counterpart. And it
>> >>doesn't take up much space.
> >
> >Sounds superb. Can u hook up any sound module fm any manufacturer
> >(Roland/EMU/Yamaha...) to the N and get sounds.... How much do they
> >usally costs....something like the NS5R?
You can hook any sound module from any manufacturer to any MIDI controlling
device, since they're all controlled by MIDI. You can use your N, a
computer, an external sequencer or anything else that transmits MIDI data,
to control the sound module.
A general rule is that if there is a full-size version of the sound module,
the sound module is cheaper (else there would be little point for the
manufacturers to construct one). But there are also synthesizers who only
come as a sound module (I believe this is the case with Virus by Access),
and they can be very expensive.
A standard Roland Sound Canvas sound module seems to be very cheap, but I
don't know much about general sound module pricing....
At 07:46 1998-03-02 -0500, John Schulz wrote:
> >I keep hearing rumors that "development is under way." Who is doing this
> >development? What are the plans for completion? What language is being
> >used? Can I help? I'm a programmer (mostly C/C++) and I've been thinking of
> >trying my hand at a more serious Visual Basic project to learn it in more
> >depth. Maybe this would be a good application. But I don't really want to
> >duplicate any efforts if something is coming out soon.
There seems to be a need to tell everybody on this list what's going on:
KORG N-specific program developers and their current projects:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Description: PCG reader which shows parameters.
Developer: Greg Babineau (*@*.com)
OS: All, but especially Win95
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Description: PCG reader which shows paramterers, soon also with MIDI I/O.
Developer: Peter Lazarus (*@*.com)
OS: Win95
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Description: PCG librarian with MIDI I/O.
Developer: Jordi Contreras Sune (*@*.url.es)
OS: MSDOS
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Greg and Peter have come a bit on the way, but I don't know Jordi's
progress. Right now it seems like all projects are a bit on the ice though.
Greg, Peter and Jordi: could you let people on the list know how far you've
gotten?
Oh, and John, you're very welcome to join these programmers! So are
everybody else on this list who have some programming experience. I keep a
list of who is doing what and for which OS, as you can see above. Contact
me and I'll have you added to that list (not a separate mailing list, just
a textfile).
If you really feel like embarking on a programming journey, do an
editor/librarian with MIDI I/O. The faster there is one ready, the better. :)
Thanx a lot Ken for the info..
Hasnat
> >
>>> >>>A sound module is always cheaper than its full-size counterpart. And
it
>>> >>>doesn't take up much space.
>> >>
>> >>Sounds superb. Can u hook up any sound module fm any manufacturer
>> >>(Roland/EMU/Yamaha...) to the N and get sounds.... How much do they
>> >>usally costs....something like the NS5R?
> >
> >You can hook any sound module from any manufacturer to any MIDI
controlling
> >device, since they're all controlled by MIDI. You can use your N, a
> >computer, an external sequencer or anything else that transmits MIDI
data,
> >to control the sound module.
> >
> >A general rule is that if there is a full-size version of the sound
module,
> >the sound module is cheaper (else there would be little point for the
> >manufacturers to construct one). But there are also synthesizers who
only
> >come as a sound module (I believe this is the case with Virus by
Access),
> >and they can be very expensive.
> >
> >A standard Roland Sound Canvas sound module seems to be very cheap, but
I
> >don't know much about general sound module pricing....
At 23:31 1998-03-02 +0100, Thomas Lawergren wrote:
> >I guess that DMaker is some sort of PC-program that ships with Cubase right?
This is what its help file says:
"DMaker is the application required to create and update the device drivers
used with the Studio Module of Cubase. All device drivers provided with the
Studio Module have been done with DMaker."
It's freeware for win95 (only?) and is downloadable from Steinberg's site.
>> >>It would definately be nice to be
>> >>able to set fx 1 & 2 from an external sequencer...
> >
> >Well, here's a little tip for you. Set up all of the internal songs after a
> >special "format". I have reverb and chorus as effects in the first song
> >(0), reverb and distorsion in the second (1) and so forth. This gives me
> >the opportunity to simply switch song (from within Cubase of course) and
> >have different effects. (Yes, my mixermap contains a "song-selector".)
Thanks for the idea, but I have two reasons why I can't do that:
1. All songs in the internal sequencer are occupied (I use the internal
sequencer as a quick "musical sketch pad").
2. I often use pretty odd fx settings, so I would still have to do changes
to the songs manually...
But, thanks again.
>> >>Try your luck with Korg support (*@*.com). They should
>> >>have the answer, but I have my doubts. ;)
> >
> >Ok, mailed there just a few seconds ago...
Feel free to let us all know if you get a reply...
I sent the same question to Korg support myself, but they still haven't
answered. Perhaps if everybody on this list sent mail to Korg about this
topic, they might have to answer...
At 19.23 +0100 98-03-04, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
>> >>I guess that DMaker is some sort of PC-program that ships with Cubase
>> >>right?
> >
> >This is what its help file says:
> >
> >"DMaker is the application required to create and update the device drivers
> >used with the Studio Module of Cubase. All device drivers provided with the
> >Studio Module have been done with DMaker."
> >
> >It's freeware for win95 (only?) and is downloadable from Steinberg's site.
Ok, I believe that "Studio Modules" are PC-specific, the Mac version
doesn't use them at all. On the Mac you simply connect to Cubase itself or
via OMS (Open Music System).
The maps I'm talking about are straight "MIDI-Maps" and I believe that they
are the same for both platforms. (Please correct me if I'm wrong!)
-----[snip]-----
>>> >>>Try your luck with Korg support (*@*.com). They
>>> >>>should
>>> >>>have the answer, but I have my doubts. ;)
>> >>
>> >>Ok, mailed there just a few seconds ago...
> >
> >Feel free to let us all know if you get a reply...
> >
> >I sent the same question to Korg support myself, but they still haven't
> >answered. Perhaps if everybody on this list sent mail to Korg about this
> >topic, they might have to answer...
Yes, I got a reply, real fast too, but it's useless 8-P
Here it goes:
"I wish I could get more specific, but the info is in fact in the MIDI
implementation chart. The heavy phone work we do here does allow us the
necessary time to write entire SysEx files. I can tell you that the
channel thing won't happen, because you can't change the channel of a
track on the fly in any scenario.. it would defeat the purpose of having
channels in the first place.. "
"It would defeat the purpose of having channels in the first place.."
Xcuse me?
The MIDI implemantation clearly states that each tracks MIDI-channel is
configurable (and you can change them manually via the control panel on the
Nx64 as well) but it doesn't say how to do it via an external MIDI-source.
It doesn't say anything about controlling the sequencer-specific parameters.
I'm confused, how about you? ;-)
Regards
L a v i s
E - m a i l: *@*.se
Hello,
I am wondering about how to get the Qubase VST to sync with N364. How do I configure them to work together? I want to control the "start" and "stop" on the N364 from Qubase VST and I don´t seem to get it going. No other problem except I can´t get the syntheziser to start playing after starting a song in the the Qubase VST. What parameters do I have to change to get this functional. I know that something has to change in the dialog box "audio", "system" and the Global menu on the N364. How do I make them work together?
Leif
FOr those of you that are interested in that light sensored sampler,
check-out this URL:
http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/WNAMM98/Roland/SP-808.html
enjoy!
mb-out
_________________________________________________________
Mike Broer
email: *@*.net
Thomas Lawergren wrote:
> >
> > At 19.23 +0100 98-03-04, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >
>>> > >>I guess that DMaker is some sort of PC-program that ships with Cubase
>>> > >>right?
>> > >
>> > >This is what its help file says:
>> > >
>> > >"DMaker is the application required to create and update the device drivers
>> > >used with the Studio Module of Cubase. All device drivers provided with the
>> > >Studio Module have been done with DMaker."
>> > >
>> > >It's freeware for win95 (only?) and is downloadable from Steinberg's site.
> >
> > Ok, I believe that "Studio Modules" are PC-specific, the Mac version
> > doesn't use them at all. On the Mac you simply connect to Cubase itself or
> > via OMS (Open Music System).
> >
> > The maps I'm talking about are straight "MIDI-Maps" and I believe that they
> > are the same for both platforms. (Please correct me if I'm wrong!)
> >
> > -----[snip]-----
> >
>>>> > >>>Try your luck with Korg support (*@*.com). They
>>>> > >>>should
>>>> > >>>have the answer, but I have my doubts. ;)
>>> > >>
>>> > >>Ok, mailed there just a few seconds ago...
>> > >
>> > >Feel free to let us all know if you get a reply...
>> > >
>> > >I sent the same question to Korg support myself, but they still haven't
>> > >answered. Perhaps if everybody on this list sent mail to Korg about this
>> > >topic, they might have to answer...
> >
> > Yes, I got a reply, real fast too, but it's useless 8-P
> >
> > Here it goes:
> >
> > "I wish I could get more specific, but the info is in fact in the MIDI
> > implementation chart. The heavy phone work we do here does allow us the
> > necessary time to write entire SysEx files. I can tell you that the
> > channel thing won't happen, because you can't change the channel of a
> > track on the fly in any scenario.. it would defeat the purpose of having
> > channels in the first place.. "
> >
> > "It would defeat the purpose of having channels in the first place.."
> >
> > Xcuse me?
> >
> > The MIDI implemantation clearly states that each tracks MIDI-channel is
> > configurable (and you can change them manually via the control panel on the
> > Nx64 as well) but it doesn't say how to do it via an external MIDI-source.
> > It doesn't say anything about controlling the sequencer-specific parameters.
> >
> > I'm confused, how about you? ;-)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > L a v i s
> >
> > E - m a i l: *@*.se
Hey you guys, a while back as we discussed the inadequacies of the
manuals, particularly the charts covering MIDI implementation, someone
really hit the nail on the head. The statement went something like
this, "Seems the firmware is a bit shy of firm." It's pretty sad that
KORG support can do no better than what has been offered! To take it a
step further, it's pretty sad that KORG doesn't firm up the less than
firm firmware."
OK, I'm done again...
Tom :)
Leif Lund wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am wondering about how to get the Qubase VST to sync with N364. How
> > do I configure them to work together? I want to control the "start"
> > and "stop" on the N364 from Qubase VST and I don´t seem to get it
> > going. No other problem except I can´t get the syntheziser to start
> > playing after starting a song in the the Qubase VST. What parameters
> > do I have to change to get this functional. I know that something has
> > to change in the dialog box "audio", "system" and the Global menu on
> > the N364. How do I make them work together?
> >
> > Leif
Leif,
I think we've established that you shouldn't read the manual or contact
KORG support. Someone here might be able to help though.
:)
Tom
On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > At 07:46 1998-03-02 -0500, John Schulz wrote:
> >
>> > >I keep hearing rumors that "development is under way." Who is doing this
>> > >development? What are the plans for completion? What language is being
>> > >used? Can I help? I'm a programmer (mostly C/C++) and I've been thinking of
>> > >trying my hand at a more serious Visual Basic project to learn it in more
>> > >depth. Maybe this would be a good application. But I don't really want to
>> > >duplicate any efforts if something is coming out soon.
> >
> > Greg, Peter and Jordi: could you let people on the list know how far you've
> > gotten?
I still want to program to program the Patch Library, but there are some
things i have reconsidered. Since I own a Gravis Ultrasound Card, which i
programmed in MSDOS to access MIDI I/O, i was needing to start programming
others devices, such as Sound Blaster or MPU. It would be very hard to
develop MIDI I/O drivers for each of these cards, because i don't have
the MPU and i find it hard to find good info on the SB. So, I finally
decided I should do the program in Windows, but although I know C and C++,
there are many new things I have to learn. Meanwhile, I keep on playing
with the Gravis Card and the synth, sending some sysex's and reading the
PCG's (the little I know).
The main problem is I hardly find time to do it... though I try to think
in coding the Library as a practice of the subject in which I learn
programming... :)
Ill try to go on as soon i have holidays...
Jordi.
While everyone is waiting for a specific N364 editer to come out, everyone
should download xedit. Ive been using it for a few months now and it works
great(granted I just have the shareware and can only edit the 2'nd oscilater).
Also the librarian is a great feature to have, makes things a breeze when
organizing all your sounds.Just configure it so it thinks you have an X3 and
it should work without probs on the n364(does for me anyways). I dont have a
url but a simple yahoo search should turn it up.
regards
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
At 02.53 +0100 98-03-05, Leif Lund wrote:
> > Hello, I am wondering about how to get the Qubase VST to sync with
> >N364. How do I configure them to work together? I want to control the
> >"start" and "stop" on the N364 from Qubase VST and I don´t seem to get it
> >going. No other problem except I can´t get the syntheziser to start
> >playing after starting a song in the the Qubase VST. What parameters do I
> >have to change to get this functional. I know that something has to
> >change in the dialog box "audio", "system" and the Global menu on the
> >N364. How do I make them work together? Leif
Display 3A, Global Menu, in the N364 should read CLOCK = EXT.
Regards
L a v i s
E - m a i l: *@*.se
At 07:46 2/03/98 EST, you wrote:
> >Kenneth Jonsson writes:
>> >> An editor/librarian is used to edit and/or store programs & songs from
>> >> synthesizers. With an N-specific external editor, it would be possible to
>> >> edit program parameters on your N using your computer. And with an
>> >> N-specific librarian it would be possible to audition/send a single (or
>> >> several) program/combi to the N via midi.
> >
>> >> Unfortunately there is no N-specific editor/librarian yet, but
> >development
>> >> is under way.
> >
Please, if you know about (or you can made) any software to edit Nx64
programs in my PC ypu could made me terribly happy sending it to me (or
telling how to get it).
I've been searching for it 3 months (and the true reason for subscribe me to
this M-L is to find something like that).
Please again... can you do something?
Grok
At 12:36 5/03/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >While everyone is waiting for a specific N364 editer to come out, everyone
> >should download xedit. Ive been using it for a few months now and it works
> >great(granted I just have the shareware and can only edit the 2'nd oscilater).
> >Also the librarian is a great feature to have, makes things a breeze when
> >organizing all your sounds.Just configure it so it thinks you have an X3 and
> >it should work without probs on the n364(does for me anyways). I dont have a
> >url but a simple yahoo search should turn it up.
> >
> >regards
> >
> >Steve Wallis
> >*@*.net
> >
Where can I get that?
Grok
Please delete me from your awesome list.
I have to do a lot of work for school these months, so I figure I let some
things rest for a while. Some things get adictive, you guys know exactly
what I am talking about, huh. So I'm gonna miss this. I really am. I feel
like I'm asking for euthanasia. Hope to join you again in Oktober.
Take care.
-Toon
At 22:33 1998-03-04 -0800, Thomas Barrett wrote:
> >I think we've established that you shouldn't read the manual or contact
> >KORG support. Someone here might be able to help though.
The Reference Guide is complicated and some info is VERY hard to find, but
it is very usable.
I can agree that KORG's support lacks though. We'll just have to team up
and FORCE answers out of them. >:)
At 12:36 1998-03-05 -0500, Steve Wallis wrote:
> >While everyone is waiting for a specific N364 editer to come out, everyone
> >should download xedit. Ive been using it for a few months now and it works
> >great(granted I just have the shareware and can only edit the 2'nd
oscilater).
> >Also the librarian is a great feature to have, makes things a breeze when
> >organizing all your sounds.Just configure it so it thinks you have an X3 and
> >it should work without probs on the n364(does for me anyways). I dont have a
> >url but a simple yahoo search should turn it up.
I've got a copy, but I've never gone deep into it, since I suspect that
Xedit won't handle ALL Nx64-specific data. Does it?
Page 52 in the Basic Guide states that loading a PCG from an X3 will work
perfectly, but a PCG from an Nx64 won't work to 100% when loaded into an
X3. Effect placements Serial/Parallell Sub and multisounds above 339 isn't
supported in the X3.
So perhaps Xedit doesn't support multisounds above 340 (the Nx64 has 429)
and Serial/Parallell Sub effect placements?
At 20:50 1998-03-05 +0100, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote:
> >Please, if you know about (or you can made) any software to edit Nx64
> >programs in my PC ypu could made me terribly happy sending it to me (or
> >telling how to get it).
> >I've been searching for it 3 months (and the true reason for subscribe me to
> >this M-L is to find something like that).
There is no program to specifically edit Nx64 programs yet, and I can't say
when one will be ready.
If you use Windows, Xedit might be adequate. It supports the KORG X-series
up to X3, which is very similar to the Nx64.
I'm not a programmer (though I can code low-level C-64 stuff :) , so I'm
afraid I can't make a program editor myself.
At 21:31 1998-03-04 +0100, Thomas Lawergren wrote:
[Cubase]
> >The maps I'm talking about are straight "MIDI-Maps" and I believe that they
> >are the same for both platforms. (Please correct me if I'm wrong!)
I'm sure they are. I didn't use Cubase Score 3.5 VST for very long, so I
didn't go very deep into it.
> >Yes, I got a reply, real fast too, but it's useless 8-P
> >
> >Here it goes:
> >
> >"I wish I could get more specific, but the info is in fact in the MIDI
> >implementation chart. The heavy phone work we do here does allow us the
> >necessary time to write entire SysEx files. I can tell you that the
> >channel thing won't happen, because you can't change the channel of a
> >track on the fly in any scenario.. it would defeat the purpose of having
> >channels in the first place.. "
> >
> >"It would defeat the purpose of having channels in the first place.."
Well, atleast you got I reply. I didn't. ;)
I don't understand what this means:
"The heavy phone work we do here does allow us the necessary time to write
entire SysEx files."
Did you ask them about how to set fx parameters in seq mode via sysex?
I'm starting to believe that it isn't possible. The Nx64 sends reversible
sysex codes when changing effect number (e.g. from 01 Hall to 02 Ens.Hall)
in program edit mode, and in combination edit mode aswell. When in seq edit
mode no sysex is transmitted from the Nx64 when doing the same thing....
> >
>> >>While everyone is waiting for a specific N364 editer to come out,
everyone
>> >>should download xedit. Ive been using it for a few months now and it
works
>> >>great(granted I just have the shareware and can only edit the 2'nd
> >oscilater).
>> >>Also the librarian is a great feature to have, makes things a breeze
when
>> >>organizing all your sounds.Just configure it so it thinks you have an
X3 and
>> >>it should work without probs on the n364(does for me anyways). I dont
have a
>> >>url but a simple yahoo search should turn it up.
> >
> >I've got a copy, but I've never gone deep into it, since I suspect that
> >Xedit won't handle ALL Nx64-specific data. Does it?
> >
> >Page 52 in the Basic Guide states that loading a PCG from an X3 will
work
> >perfectly, but a PCG from an Nx64 won't work to 100% when loaded into
an
> >X3. Effect placements Serial/Parallell Sub and multisounds above 339
isn't
> >supported in the X3.
> >
> >So perhaps Xedit doesn't support multisounds above 340 (the Nx64 has
429)
> >and Serial/Parallell Sub effect placements?
What is the Xedit exactly? Is it name of a program like
Cubase/cakewalk? Where can i get it?
hasnat
> >What is the Xedit exactly? Is it name of a program like
> >Cubase/cakewalk? Where can i get it?
Xedit is a program patch librarian for the X3/X5 ect.. You use it to make new
sounds - edit old ones ect.. and to organise all your PCG's.
Here's Xedit's Homepage.
Keep in mind that the version for download is shareware and will only allow you
to edit the 2 oscilater in double programs and will not allow you to save any
combinations. The librarain is fully fuctional tho and works perfect.
http://elektron.et.tudelft.nl/~joostn/xedit.html
At 17:40 7/03/98 +0100, you wrote:
> >At 20:50 1998-03-05 +0100, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote:
> >
>> >>Please, if you know about (or you can made) any software to edit Nx64
>> >>programs in my PC ypu could made me terribly happy sending it to me (or
>> >>telling how to get it).
>> >>I've been searching for it 3 months (and the true reason for subscribe me to
>> >>this M-L is to find something like that).
> >
> >There is no program to specifically edit Nx64 programs yet, and I can't say
> >when one will be ready.
> >
> >If you use Windows, Xedit might be adequate. It supports the KORG X-series
> >up to X3, which is very similar to the Nx64.
> >
> >I'm not a programmer (though I can code low-level C-64 stuff :) , so I'm
> >afraid I can't make a program editor myself.
Ok! Where can I get Xedit?
Thanx
Grok
Ups! I find where to get Xedit two mails after.
"mil perdones"
Grok
>> > > Ive had a few problems myself with the n's sequencer. For some freak
>> > > reason or another it loves to lock up on me so that i cant change
>> > > channels or paremeters. This usually happens when Im adjusting the c/d
Sorry if this has been answered already.
The problem is probably in the internal aftertouch adjustment. That is, by
adjusting and calibrating the aftertouch, the problem will probably be
solved.
What happens is that the sequencer looks to check that all controllers are
"zero-ed" at the end of recording. If not, it won't let you continue,
and lockup results. The problem with the aftertouch adjustment is that it
is mistakenly telling the sequencer that the aftertouch is not set to zero.
Hence the lock up. Calibrating/adjusting the aftertouch will solve the
"mistaken zero" problem, and therefore solve the sequencer lockup problem.
The aftertouch adjustment is a technician problem - I think you have to
remove a key, and access a pot on the keyboard IC. Sorry, but I'm not a
technician, and I don't have technical details on this.
In other words, folks, this is actually a relatively simple problem to
fix. Apparently a fault in the keyboard, and not in the software for the
N-sequencer as such.
Consult your Korg service centre for more details. If they don't know
about it, they should contact the Korg distributors in your country, etc.
All the best,
jg.
does exist any drums sounds that can be used in the drum kit but not the
original ones, news can somebody understand me?
i need anothers ones
example:
rap drums (with some kind of noise)
thanx.
Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé wrote:
> >
> > Ups! I find where to get Xedit two mails after.
> > "mil perdones"
> > Grok
where can I get the xedit?? Please let me know...are you from méxico?
Greetings from puebla.
At 22:50 1998-03-10 +1100, J+G Grant wrote:
>>> >> > Ive had a few problems myself with the n's sequencer. For some freak
>>> >> > reason or another it loves to lock up on me so that i cant change
>>> >> > channels or paremeters. This usually happens when Im adjusting the c/d
> >
> >
> >Sorry if this has been answered already.
> >
> >The problem is probably in the internal aftertouch adjustment. That is, by
> >adjusting and calibrating the aftertouch, the problem will probably be
> >solved.
> >
> >What happens is that the sequencer looks to check that all controllers are
> >"zero-ed" at the end of recording. If not, it won't let you continue,
> >and lockup results. The problem with the aftertouch adjustment is that it
> >is mistakenly telling the sequencer that the aftertouch is not set to zero.
> > Hence the lock up. Calibrating/adjusting the aftertouch will solve the
> >"mistaken zero" problem, and therefore solve the sequencer lockup problem.
Perhaps the aftertouch calibration on global edit page 8A, three pages to
the right, works?
At 12:43 1998-03-12 -0400, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
> >does exist any drums sounds that can be used in the drum kit but not the
> >original ones, news can somebody understand me?
> >i need anothers ones
> >example:
> > rap drums (with some kind of noise)
If you wonder if there are more drum samples than those in the preset drum
kits, then the answer is yes. Take trip to global page 6A or 6B (does
anybody know why there are two drum kit setup pages???). You can use drum
samples 1 to 214 (take a look at the back of the Basic Guide to see which
samples you can use in drum kits).
Or do you want to use other samples in a drum kit than the dedicated drum
samples? Then the answer is no. But you could ofcourse create a COMBI that
uses a drum kit of your choice and non-drum programs on any key interval
you want. This requires a bit of work though...
hey, i'm having problems in creating rppr's. i play them in and everything
sounds like i want it to WHILE i play it in, then afterwards, the notes
disappear....so i play over it again....doubling it...and it's all there.
then when i copy the pattern to a track, different notes are missing that
weren't missing before. i checked to make sure that the velocity window
was right, and that it wasn't a quantization problem. i have NO idea why
it's doing this, and the manual was no help. if anyone could help at all,
i'd REALLY appreciate it! thanx in advance!!
mb-out
_________________________________________________________
Mike Broer
email: *@*.net
hello again! one more question, i remeber a little while back someone
mentions that holding the seq, and 8 button while powering up would clear
the sequencer. is that in the manual?? if so, where? if not, what EXACTLY
does it erase? thanx again!!
mb-out
_________________________________________________________
Mike Broer
email: *@*.net
Mike,
Reference Guide-Page 98
It will erase the 10 songs, 100 patterns, and initialize the setting
parameters,
Tom
i realize that this was already answered in previous messages... but i
don't have them anymore....how do u send bank select messages with
cakewalk??
mb-out
_________________________________________________________
Mike Broer
email: *@*.net
>> > > Hence the lock up. Calibrating/adjusting the aftertouch will solve
the
>> > >"mistaken zero" problem, and therefore solve the sequencer lockup
problem.
> >
> > Perhaps the aftertouch calibration on global edit page 8A, three pages to
> > the right, works?
> >
No, sorry, I don't believe that it will help.
jg.
Mike,
Here is the explanation on how to select among diferent banks on
Cakewalk.
Regards,
Alejandro del Hoyo.
>From *@*.syntegra.net Mon Feb 23 14:00:38 1998
> >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21])
> > by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08548;
> > Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:39:11 +0100 (MET)
> >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
release
> > 1.8c) with spool id 1327 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Mon,
23 Feb
> > 1998 22:39:10 +0100
> >Received: from hotmail.com (f60.hotmail.com [207.82.250.146]) by
> > mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA08544 for
> > <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:39:05 +0100
(MET)
> >Received: (qmail 12008 invoked by uid 0); 23 Feb 1998 21:38:02 -0000
> >Received: from 200.33.230.5 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 23 Feb
1998
> > 13:37:59 PST
> >X-Originating-IP: [200.33.230.5]
> >Content-Type: text/plain
> >Message-ID: <19980223213802.12007.*@*.com>
> >Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:37:59 PST
> >Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
> >Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
> >From: Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca <*@*.COM>
> >Subject: How to set up controllers on Cakewalk
> >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> >
> >Hi all!
> >
> >In order to have cakewalk sequence loading the GM bank every time you
> >open that specific sequence, you have to insert two "Control Change"
> >controllers and a "Patch Change" at the beggining of each track on that
> >sequence. I don't remember which is the correct Control Change for GM,
> >but if you wanted to set all tracs to play on bank C you shuld insert
> >the following parameters at the beggining of each track:
> >
> >Type of Controller Value(decimal) NOTE
> >===================================================================
> >Control Change 00 This will tell N264 that the
> > following Control Change is
> > the bank selection
> >===================================================================
> >Control Change 02 This will tell N264 that the
> > bank C has been selected for
> > this specific track.(See NOTE).
> >===================================================================
> >Patch Change XX Where XX is the Patch number
> > that you want to use on that
> > track.
> >===================================================================
> >NOTE: 00 will select Bank A
> > 01 will select Bank B
> > 02 will select Bank C
> > 03 will select Bank D
> > ?? will select Bank GM (See manual for further information).
> >
> >On cakewalk 1.3 you add a Controller (control change or patch change)
by
> >clicking with the right mouse button on the desired track and choosing
> >the Event Browser option for the pop-up menu. Then just press the
Insert
> >Key of your PC keyboard and a menu will come up. Choose the desire
> >controller and you are done!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >I hope this can help...
> >Regards,
> >Alejandro.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From *@*.syntegra.net Mon Feb 23 10:30:35 1998
>> >>Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21])
>> >> by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07303;
>> >> Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:14:09 +0100 (MET)
>> >>Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
> >release
>> >> 1.8c) with spool id 1304 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Mon,
> >23 Feb
>> >> 1998 19:14:08 +0100
>> >>Received: from MNSi.Net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by
> >mail.rijnhaave.nl
>> >> (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07297 for
> ><*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>;
>> >> Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:14:06 +0100 (MET)
>> >>Received: from mnsi.net.mnsi.net (dyn208-6-76-213.lon.mnsi.net
> >[208.6.76.213])
>> >> by MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id NAA00245 for
>> >> <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:12:24 -0500
>> >>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> >>X-Priority: 3
>> >>X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
>> >>MIME-Version: 1.0
>> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> >>Message-ID: <199802231812.*@*.Net>
>> >>Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:07:34 -0500
>> >>Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
>> >>Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
>> >>From: Mike Broer <*@*.NET>
>> >>Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N
>> >>To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>> >>
>> >>for me the problem is that i can't use any patches from my N! i'm
> >starting
>> >>in cakewalk.....the N's manual is NO help...and i don't have the
> >cakewalk
>> >>manual..so...arg!
>> >>
>> >>_________________________________________________________
>> >>mIcHaEl BrOeR
>> >>email: *@*.net
>> >>
>> >>----------
>>> >>> From: Ted Scheriff Jr. <*@*.COM>
>>> >>> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>>> >>> Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N
>>> >>> Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 2:06 AM
>>> >>>
>>> >>> i think im seeing the problem here...
>>> >>> people are asking why do the patches automatically change to gm??
>>> >>> ive had this problem...
>>> >>> you cant write a song on the on-board sequencer and translate it for
>>> >>> cakewalk---
>>> >>> if you want to use cakewalk---you have to start writing the song on
>>> >>> cakewalk!!!
>>> >>> as for your finished songs?---i found that i just have to fix the
> >banks
>> >>to the
>>> >>> proper ones... but you have to do it everytime you open the file...
>>> >>> hope i could help : )
>>> >>> -ted-
>> >>
> >
> >
> >
At 01:59 1998-03-17 -0500, Mike Broer wrote:
> >i realize that this was already answered in previous messages... but i
> >don't have them anymore....how do u send bank select messages with
> >cakewalk??
There are several ways, but one easy is to open list view, put the cursor
somewhere and pick "Bank/Patch Change" from the Insert menu. A window will
appear. Select bank & patch and press ok. A patch change MIDI message will
then be inserted. Move it to where you want it by changing meas:beat:tick.
Peter Lazarus wrote:
> >This may have been answered on the forum, but why does piano for
> >instance sound softer when selected in seq mode? Is it because the
> >effectsprocessors come into play?
As far as my tests concern, this is caused by the effect processors
settings only. Try using any effects-intensitive program (or a piano if you
like) to the sequencer, but copy the that program's effects settings first
(seq edit page 7F). Then adjust the send C/D settings (seq edit page 1A) to
C=PRG and D=PRG for the track which you play that program on.
Now, the program in sequencer mode should sound exactly like in program mode.
The same goes for combinations.
Imagine having 32 effects processors, i.e. 2 per track in seq mode... A
wonderful thought... :)
Ok, here's the complete nuts and bolts of this stuff:
bank A B C D GM
GM drums
controller 0 0 0 0 0 56
62
controller 32 0 1 2 3 0
0
Patch change
In other words, you need to send controller 0, controller 32, and a patch
change to change banks. So for the GM bank, send a controller 0 with a value
of 56, a controller 32 with a value of 0, and a patch change number.
I hope that helps. ;-)
alan
Did anyone see the article in Electronic Musician this month about
workstations? They said the N364 was one of the best sounding workstations
around. Oh yeah, baby, who's bad?
At 19:56 23/03/98 EST, you wrote:
> >Did anyone see the article in Electronic Musician this month about
> >workstations? They said the N364 was one of the best sounding workstations
> >around. Oh yeah, baby, who's bad?
> >
Anybody knows if I can get Electronic Musician in Spain.
Thanx in advance...
Grok
Hi,
I wonder how much Electronic Musician is going to cost in Spain? I
think if you subscribe it will be less than the news stand price of
about US$3.95 per issue.
;-)
Juz me
Hi,
That's around $4.95 Canadian I think for a magazine in Spain.
Juz me
For those of you who received the 5 (6?) special offer disks with your Nx64:
Did you get any kind of license agreement papers? If so, what do they say
about redistribution? Legal or not?
Please help me with this! I've asked KORG, but they haven't answered yet. I
reccon you're faster!
At 09:41 1998-03-23 +0100, Joakim.*@*.se wrote:
> >Can I assign other effects to the Send C/D, or can I send effects messages
> >on a per channel basis?
> >
> >I want to be able to send any effect to any channel when using sequencer
> >mode.
Do you want to use different effects settings (i.e. distortion, reverb etc)
on each channel? That's not possible since there's only two fx processors.
Perhaps you mean that you want to change which two effects to use from
Cakewalk? Well, that seems to be impossible too. I've gone through the MIDI
implementation charts on the back of the Reference Guide thoroughly, but
haven't find one single way to change which effects to use. I was hoping a
Sysex message would solve the problem, but the KORG Nx64 won't receive
effect-setting Sysex when in sequencer mode. For some UTTERLY stupid reason.
There is a stupid workaround, but it's so annoying I won't even write it
here. :)
I suppose you know that you can set different send C/D for each channel, so
I guess that's not what you asked about.
At 19:56 1998-03-23 -0500, SA11075 wrote:
> >Did anyone see the article in Electronic Musician this month about
> >workstations? They said the N364 was one of the best sounding workstations
> >around. Oh yeah, baby, who's bad?
Didn't see it, but I sure believe it. Hehe.
hello allo! this may be a dumb question..but i'm curious..i see all these
VS Organs....what does VS mean?? i'm curious...thanx!!
mb-out
_________________________________________________________
Mike Broer
email: *@*.net
Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with
other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something
about this.
Another thing, does anybody has an Idea of how much does a case for my
N264 will cost in the united states?
Greetings from Mexico!!
CHHG
Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with
other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something
about this.
Another thing, does anybody has an Idea of how much does a case for my
N264 will cost in the united states?
Greetings from Mexico!! please e-mail me at : *@*.net
CHHG
At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote:
> >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with
> >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something
> >about this.
Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in
there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side
of the main page if I recall correctly...
It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too.
There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3
and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now.
Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site.
I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost
everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said
before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.
There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree, N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Re: Disks info.
At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote:
> >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with
> >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something
> >about this.
Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in
there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side
of the main page if I recall correctly...
It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too.
There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3
and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now.
Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site.
I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost
everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said
before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.
how exactly did u get these disks?
_________________________________________________________
Mike Broer
email: *@*.net
----------
From: David Young <*@*.NET>
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Re: Disks info.
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 11:33 PM
There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I
just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree,
N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Re: Disks info.
At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote:
> >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with
> >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something
> >about this.
Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in
there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side
of the main page if I recall correctly...
It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too.
There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3
and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now.
Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site.
I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost
everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said
before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.
----------
David,
I only got one disk with my N_64 and it's neither NSD1 nor NSD2; it's
NFD-00P. I'm still waiting for my KORG rebate and disks. Will those
disks be in there? Did I not get something(s) I was supposed to get
when I bought this synth? Goin' on two months now on the rebate... :(
David Young wrote:
> >
> > There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree, N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: Disks info.
> >
> > At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote:
> >
>> > >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with
>> > >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something
>> > >about this.
> >
> > Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in
> > there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side
> > of the main page if I recall correctly...
> >
> > It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too.
> >
> > There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3
> > and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now.
> >
> > Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site.
> > I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost
> > everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said
> > before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.
What about upload the disks you ALL have and so everybody will enjoy them...
I'm an "only 1 disk owner" too.
Please, please. Oh! I spend my life beggin' Arjgs.
Grok
Could you share disk2 with us on the N264 FTP site ?
Thanks in advance
> >There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I
just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree,
N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!!
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE]
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM
> >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> >Subject: Re: Disks info.
> >
> >At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote:
> >
>> >>Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with
>> >>other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something
>> >>about this.
> >
> >Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in
> >there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side
> >of the main page if I recall correctly...
> >
> >It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too.
> >
> >There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3
> >and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now.
> >
> >Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site.
> >I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost
> >everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said
> >before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.
> >
> >Attachment Converted: "C:\PROGRAM FILES\EUDORA\attach\Re Disks info."
> >
At 20:40 1998-03-26 +0100, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote:
> >What about upload the disks you ALL have and so everybody will enjoy them...
> >I'm an "only 1 disk owner" too.
Most disks are already uploaded to:
ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
Take a look after n-disks.zip there.
I called up Korg and had them send them out to me, as I didn't get any docs / disks when I bought my board...
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Broer [SMTP:*@*.NET]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 10:58 PM
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Re: Disks info.
how exactly did u get these disks?
_________________________________________________________
Mike Broer
email: *@*.net
----------
From: David Young <*@*.NET>
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Re: Disks info.
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 11:33 PM
There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I
just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree,
N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Re: Disks info.
At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote:
> >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with
> >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something
> >about this.
Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in
there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side
of the main page if I recall correctly...
It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too.
There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3
and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now.
Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site.
I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost
everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said
before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.
bummer about the rebate...I just sent mine in a week ago, so it looks as though I have a long wait. :( I didn't get the NFD-00P...what is on it? When I bought my board, I didn't get any documentation or disks, so I called up Korg and they sent me out the package.
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Barrett [SMTP:*@*.NET]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 2:49 AM
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Re: Disks info.
David,
I only got one disk with my N_64 and it's neither NSD1 nor NSD2; it's
NFD-00P. I'm still waiting for my KORG rebate and disks. Will those
disks be in there? Did I not get something(s) I was supposed to get
when I bought this synth? Goin' on two months now on the rebate... :(
David Young wrote:
> >
> > There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree, N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: Disks info.
> >
> > At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote:
> >
>> > >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with
>> > >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something
>> > >about this.
> >
> > Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in
> > there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side
> > of the main page if I recall correctly...
> >
> > It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too.
> >
> > There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3
> > and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now.
> >
> > Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site.
> > I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost
> > everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said
> > before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.
well, I'm sure I could, but I have a feeling that it would break at least 5 laws...don't see much point in that... :(
-----Original Message-----
From: Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé [SMTP:*@*.USAL.ES]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 1:41 PM
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: All Nx64 disks owners
What about upload the disks you ALL have and so everybody will enjoy them...
I'm an "only 1 disk owner" too.
Please, please. Oh! I spend my life beggin' Arjgs.
Grok
David,
> > bummer about the rebate...I just sent mine in a week ago, so it looks as though I have a long wait.
I got the stuff today! That's right at about six weeks.
> > I didn't get the NFD-00P...what is on it? When I bought my board, I
> > didn't get any documentation or disks, so I called up Korg and they
> > sent me out the package.
That disk contains:
PRELOAD PCG
PRELOAD SNG
PRELOAD PST
RPPR SNG
RPPR PST
GMDEMO1 MID
GMDEMO2 MID
I3CDBANK PCG
INITIAL PCG
INITIAL SNG
INITIAL PST
I didn't get NSD1 or NSD2. The above is the original factory load disk I
think. If you want, I could send you a zip of mine. Can you send me a
zip of yours (NDS1 & 2) ?
Tom
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas Barrett [SMTP:*@*.NET]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 2:49 AM
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: Disks info.
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I only got one disk with my N_64 and it's neither NSD1 nor NSD2; it's
> > NFD-00P. I'm still waiting for my KORG rebate and disks. Will those
> > disks be in there? Did I not get something(s) I was supposed to get
> > when I bought this synth? Goin' on two months now on the rebate... :(
> >
> > David Young wrote:
>> > >
>> > > There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree, N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!!
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE]
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM
>> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>> > > Subject: Re: Disks info.
>> > >
>> > > At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote:
>> > >
>>> > > >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with
>>> > > >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something
>>> > > >about this.
>> > >
>> > > Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in
>> > > there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side
>> > > of the main page if I recall correctly...
>> > >
>> > > It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too.
>> > >
>> > > There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3
>> > > and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now.
>> > >
>> > > Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site.
>> > > I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost
>> > > everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said
>> > > before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.
Davis,
Oh well, I wrote my last before I read that you thought it uncool to
send those because of various laws. In that case, never mind. Wow, I
wasn't really aware one had to be that carefull about such things. I
would have thought that I have a right to the disks being requested but
just never got them. I guess I'll go to the factory. But thats OK
too. I understand Dave.
Tom
Ken,
Why is one no longer able to get into:
ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
I'm interested in trying to get NSD1 & 2.
Thnx,
Tom
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >
> > At 20:40 1998-03-26 +0100, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote:
> >
>> > >What about upload the disks you ALL have and so everybody will enjoy them...
>> > >I'm an "only 1 disk owner" too.
> >
> > Most disks are already uploaded to:
> >
> > ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
> >
> > Take a look after n-disks.zip there.
I already have these files...sorry.. :(
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Barrett [SMTP:*@*.NET]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 7:28 PM
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Re: Disks info.
David,
> > bummer about the rebate...I just sent mine in a week ago, so it looks as though I have a long wait.
I got the stuff today! That's right at about six weeks.
> > I didn't get the NFD-00P...what is on it? When I bought my board, I
> > didn't get any documentation or disks, so I called up Korg and they
> > sent me out the package.
That disk contains:
PRELOAD PCG
PRELOAD SNG
PRELOAD PST
RPPR SNG
RPPR PST
GMDEMO1 MID
GMDEMO2 MID
I3CDBANK PCG
INITIAL PCG
INITIAL SNG
INITIAL PST
I didn't get NSD1 or NSD2. The above is the original factory load disk I
think. If you want, I could send you a zip of mine. Can you send me a
zip of yours (NDS1 & 2) ?
Tom
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas Barrett [SMTP:*@*.NET]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 2:49 AM
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: Disks info.
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I only got one disk with my N_64 and it's neither NSD1 nor NSD2; it's
> > NFD-00P. I'm still waiting for my KORG rebate and disks. Will those
> > disks be in there? Did I not get something(s) I was supposed to get
> > when I bought this synth? Goin' on two months now on the rebate... :(
> >
> > David Young wrote:
>> > >
>> > > There were actually two disks that came with the Nx64...NSD1 and NSD2...I just got NSD2 in the mail and it ROCKS!! the Techno RPPR's and N_Degree, N_World remakes were even better....check it out!!!
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Kenneth Jonsson [SMTP:*@*.TNINET.SE]
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 6:41 PM
>> > > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>> > > Subject: Re: Disks info.
>> > >
>> > > At 21:22 1998-03-24 -0800, Christian Herrejón wrote:
>> > >
>>> > > >Hi there! I was wondering if there are any disks available for sale with
>>> > > >other sounds or patterns... please let me know if you know something
>>> > > >about this.
>> > >
>> > > Take a look at KORG USA's pages (www.korg.com). They have a sales page in
>> > > there, where they sell gear and sound disks. The link is on the right side
>> > > of the main page if I recall correctly...
>> > >
>> > > It's very possible that they sell cases for the N264 there too.
>> > >
>> > > There's atleast one other third-party company that makes PCGs for the X3
>> > > and Nx64, but I can't remember any addresses right now.
>> > >
>> > > Try searching for PCG (or PSET etc) in AltaVista or any other search-site.
>> > > I'm sure you'll get several interesting hits. I did, eventhough almost
>> > > everything was for the X3. This doesn't matter though, since as said
>> > > before, PCGs for the X3 are 100% compatible with the Nx64.
Sorry about that folks. Ccnet was bought by Verio. The new address is:
ftp.ncal.verio.com/pub/users/sad001
I was led to believe that the old address would continue to work but I
hadn't tested it until now.
Steve
Thomas Barrett wrote:
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > Why is one no longer able to get into:
> >
> > ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
> >
> > I'm interested in trying to get NSD1 & 2.
> >
> > Thnx,
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
>> > >
>> > > At 20:40 1998-03-26 +0100, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote:
>> > >
>>> > > >What about upload the disks you ALL have and so everybody will enjoy them...
>>> > > >I'm an "only 1 disk owner" too.
>> > >
>> > > Most disks are already uploaded to:
>> > >
>> > > ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/sad001/
>> > >
>> > > Take a look after n-disks.zip there.
well I had to pay for them...they didn't just give them to me for free there dood...
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Barrett [SMTP:*@*.NET]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 7:32 PM
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Re: All Nx64 disks owners
Davis,
Oh well, I wrote my last before I read that you thought it uncool to
send those because of various laws. In that case, never mind. Wow, I
wasn't really aware one had to be that carefull about such things. I
would have thought that I have a right to the disks being requested but
just never got them. I guess I'll go to the factory. But thats OK
too. I understand Dave.
Tom
David,
That's the problem with the internet. One is not able to watch body
language or hear inflection of voice to help in interpretation. I, in
no way, intended to offend or insult you about acquiring the disks. As
a matter of fact, I thought that I went out of my way to relieve you of
any concern about the whole issue without feeling bad at all. At least
that was my intent.
I wasn't aware you had to pay for the disks. Might I ask your
indulgence for a moment? 1) How much did they cost? 2) What's on
them? and,
3) Are you happy about the puchase?
Gotta go finish a new progression...a D augmented with an A flat in the
base might work there... :)
TTYL
Tom
David Young wrote:
> >
> > well I had to pay for them...they didn't just give them to me for free there dood...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas Barrett [SMTP:*@*.NET]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 7:32 PM
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: All Nx64 disks owners
> >
> > Davis,
> >
> > Oh well, I wrote my last before I read that you thought it uncool to
> > send those because of various laws. In that case, never mind. Wow, I
> > wasn't really aware one had to be that carefull about such things. I
> > would have thought that I have a right to the disks being requested but
> > just never got them. I guess I'll go to the factory. But thats OK
> > too. I understand Dave.
> >
> > Tom
Excuse me all. I didn't mean you give for free something that wasn't free
for you.
I just thought the disks were something everybody could have, just new
releases of the same thing which has some files that weren't available before.
I'm in Spain and tell Korg to send them by snail mail seemed to me much
slower than get them by ftp.
But I understand you, that's ok.
Ken: I've already downloaded the file you told me, and they're the files I
already have (from my original Korg disk). But thanks anyway.
Man! I didn't know how stupid I was until I opened my Korg N264 Reference
Guide. I've had my workstation for about a month. Basiclly I've been using
it in performance, but me and a co-song writer are going to be working on a
lot of new material. I've learned the basics of program & combination edit
modes, global edit, and recording what I've played on the keyboard, but I
can't get a handle on this pattern play. I can't seem to figure out how to
load patterns and if I do, where are they at? How do I set them up to play
when I press the assigned key? Is there a "layman terms" way do get me
pointed in the right direction? I feel when I get a grasp of what I'm doing,
the rest will fall in place. Any info you could give at this point would be
greatly appreciated. This is definetly a Fantastic Keyboard. The manual I'm
not so sure about.
thanks
David Wright
At 19:12 1998-03-27 +0100, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote:
> >Ken: I've already downloaded the file you told me, and they're the files I
> >already have (from my original Korg disk). But thanks anyway.
Then you can't have downloaded the right file. There's a zip archive on
ftp://ftp.ncal.verio.com/pub/users/sad001/
that contains several of the rebate disks. Unless it has been removed?
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > Then you can't have downloaded the right file. There's a zip archive on
> >
> > ftp://ftp.ncal.verio.com/pub/users/sad001/
> >
> > that contains several of the rebate disks. Unless it has been removed?
I didn't remove it. :) Everything is still there.
Steve
Please remove me from your mailing list. Thanks, it's been fun.
At 18:15 1998-03-30 -0800, Dennis Jarosz wrote:
>> >>Please remove me from your mailing list. Thanks, it's been fun.
> >
> >Who is this we don't have a mailing list this is a person's e-mail not a
> >company. Maybe you should check the e-mail address.
Mailing list removal requests should be sent directly to us owners
(*@*.syntegra.net), but preferably to the list server as a
sign-off command.
Some people haven't noticed this.
Who is this we don't have a mailing list this is a person's e-mail not a
company. Maybe you should check the e-mail address.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jomocujy2 <*@*.COM>
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
Date: Monday, March 30, 1998 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: Bank Selection messages
> >Please remove me from your mailing list. Thanks, it's been fun.
alright...i've goofed around with this thing A LOT..and haven't gotten it
to change the banks. when i go into the event list, under kind i choose
controler, but what do i put under value?? i can't get it workin. thanx
in advance. :)
_________________________________________________________
Mike Broer
email: *@*.net
----------
> > From: Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca <*@*.COM>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Bank Selection stuff........,....
> > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 6:19 PM
> >
> > Mike,
> > Here is the explanation on how to select among diferent banks on
> > Cakewalk.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alejandro del Hoyo.
> >
> >
> > >From *@*.syntegra.net Mon Feb 23 14:00:38 1998
>> > >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21])
>> > > by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08548;
>> > > Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:39:11 +0100 (MET)
>> > >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
> > release
>> > > 1.8c) with spool id 1327 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Mon,
> > 23 Feb
>> > > 1998 22:39:10 +0100
>> > >Received: from hotmail.com (f60.hotmail.com [207.82.250.146]) by
>> > > mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA08544 for
>> > > <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:39:05 +0100
> > (MET)
>> > >Received: (qmail 12008 invoked by uid 0); 23 Feb 1998 21:38:02 -0000
>> > >Received: from 200.33.230.5 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 23 Feb
> > 1998
>> > > 13:37:59 PST
>> > >X-Originating-IP: [200.33.230.5]
>> > >Content-Type: text/plain
>> > >Message-ID: <19980223213802.12007.*@*.com>
>> > >Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:37:59 PST
>> > >Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
>> > >Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
>> > >From: Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca <*@*.COM>
>> > >Subject: How to set up controllers on Cakewalk
>> > >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>> > >
>> > >Hi all!
>> > >
>> > >In order to have cakewalk sequence loading the GM bank every time you
>> > >open that specific sequence, you have to insert two "Control Change"
>> > >controllers and a "Patch Change" at the beggining of each track on that
>> > >sequence. I don't remember which is the correct Control Change for GM,
>> > >but if you wanted to set all tracs to play on bank C you shuld insert
>> > >the following parameters at the beggining of each track:
>> > >
>> > >Type of Controller Value(decimal) NOTE
>> > >===================================================================
>> > >Control Change 00 This will tell N264 that the
>> > > following Control Change is
>> > > the bank selection
>> > >===================================================================
>> > >Control Change 02 This will tell N264 that the
>> > > bank C has been selected for
>> > > this specific track.(See NOTE).
>> > >===================================================================
>> > >Patch Change XX Where XX is the Patch number
>> > > that you want to use on that
>> > > track.
>> > >===================================================================
>> > >NOTE: 00 will select Bank A
>> > > 01 will select Bank B
>> > > 02 will select Bank C
>> > > 03 will select Bank D
>> > > ?? will select Bank GM (See manual for further information).
>> > >
>> > >On cakewalk 1.3 you add a Controller (control change or patch change)
> > by
>> > >clicking with the right mouse button on the desired track and choosing
>> > >the Event Browser option for the pop-up menu. Then just press the
> > Insert
>> > >Key of your PC keyboard and a menu will come up. Choose the desire
>> > >controller and you are done!!!!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >I hope this can help...
>> > >Regards,
>> > >Alejandro.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>From *@*.syntegra.net Mon Feb 23 10:30:35 1998
>>> > >>Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21])
>>> > >> by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07303;
>>> > >> Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:14:09 +0100 (MET)
>>> > >>Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
>> > >release
>>> > >> 1.8c) with spool id 1304 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Mon,
>> > >23 Feb
>>> > >> 1998 19:14:08 +0100
>>> > >>Received: from MNSi.Net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by
>> > >mail.rijnhaave.nl
>>> > >> (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07297 for
>> > ><*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>;
>>> > >> Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:14:06 +0100 (MET)
>>> > >>Received: from mnsi.net.mnsi.net (dyn208-6-76-213.lon.mnsi.net
>> > >[208.6.76.213])
>>> > >> by MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id NAA00245 for
>>> > >> <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:12:24 -0500
>>> > >>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>> > >>X-Priority: 3
>>> > >>X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
>>> > >>MIME-Version: 1.0
>>> > >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>> > >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>> > >>Message-ID: <199802231812.*@*.Net>
>>> > >>Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:07:34 -0500
>>> > >>Reply-To: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
>>> > >>Sender: Korg N364/N264 users mailing list <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
>>> > >>From: Mike Broer <*@*.NET>
>>> > >>Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N
>>> > >>To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>>> > >>
>>> > >>for me the problem is that i can't use any patches from my N! i'm
>> > >starting
>>> > >>in cakewalk.....the N's manual is NO help...and i don't have the
>> > >cakewalk
>>> > >>manual..so...arg!
>>> > >>
>>> > >>_________________________________________________________
>>> > >>mIcHaEl BrOeR
>>> > >>email: *@*.net
>>> > >>
>>> > >>----------
>>>> > >>> From: Ted Scheriff Jr. <*@*.COM>
>>>> > >>> To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>>>> > >>> Subject: Re: cakewalk and the N
>>>> > >>> Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 2:06 AM
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> i think im seeing the problem here...
>>>> > >>> people are asking why do the patches automatically change to gm??
>>>> > >>> ive had this problem...
>>>> > >>> you cant write a song on the on-board sequencer and translate it for
>>>> > >>> cakewalk---
>>>> > >>> if you want to use cakewalk---you have to start writing the song on
>>>> > >>> cakewalk!!!
>>>> > >>> as for your finished songs?---i found that i just have to fix the
>> > >banks
>>> > >>to the
>>>> > >>> proper ones... but you have to do it everytime you open the file...
>>>> > >>> hope i could help : )
>>>> > >>> -ted-
>>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
> >
> >
I am a new n364 user, fighting my way up the learning curve. I am trying
to get the synth working with Cubasis Software which came packaged with it.
Cubasis is, as I understand it, a somewhat simpler relative of Cubase,
made by the same firm as an entry level version.
I would welcome advice on using this software with the 364. In particular,
I want to know how to select programs and banks. So far, when I plug
numbers into Cubasis, I get what appear to be random bank and program
selection.
Any advice or help gratefully received!
Thanks,
Robert
*@*.com
hello guys
I just want to know if it's possible to assign Effects on N from
Cakewalk the way u control for ex. Volume/Pan..
Hasnat
At 16:46 1998-04-01 -0800, Hasnat M wrote:
> >I just want to know if it's possible to assign Effects on N from
> >Cakewalk the way u control for ex. Volume/Pan..
It seems impossible to select effect (phaser, distortion, reverb etc) via
MIDI. Atleast I haven't found a single way to do it, after going through
the MIDI implementation charts in the Reference Guide rather thoroughly.
This sucks.
It's possible to select effects via MIDI SysEx in program and combi mode
only. So if you don't need more than 8 MIDI channels, you could use combi
mode for multitimbral playback. There are a couple of drawbacks to this
though. I guess selecting which program to use on each channel will be a
bit difficult, since a program change MIDI message will be interpreted as a
combi change. But I haven't tested, so I'm not sure...
At 14:35 1998-04-01 -0800, Robert Neville wrote:
> > Cubasis is, as I understand it, a somewhat simpler relative of Cubase,
> >made by the same firm as an entry level version.
True. I've got Cubasis Audio 1.6 (which came free with my SB AWE64 Gold
sound card), and it's got a lot less features than Cubase. Naturally, since
it's a lot cheaper.
> >I would welcome advice on using this software with the 364. In particular,
> >I want to know how to select programs and banks. So far, when I plug
> >numbers into Cubasis, I get what appear to be random bank and program
> >selection.
I'm not using Cubasis anymore (I use Cakewalk), but I still have Cubasis
installed and it works fine. If you activate the trackinfo window (click
the small button on the left downer corner of the main arrangement window)
you can select banks and programs for each channel.
Bank numbers are:
0 - A
1 - B
2 - C
3 - D
4 - GM (it works for me, but 7169 is the correct value)
7937 - GM drums
Program numbers:
For bank A to D, you have to add 1 to the program you want. E.g. if you
want program 09, enter 10.
For bank GM, you can enter the number directly, i.e. 09 for 09.
Now, if you want to select program C43, enter bank number 2 and program
number 44.
Cakewalk:
At 16:36 1998-03-31 -0500, Mike Broer wrote:
> >when i go into the event list, under kind i choose
> >controler, but what do i put under value??
There are two values. The first is the bank number:
0 - A
1 - B
2 - C
3 - D
7169 - GM
7937 - GM drums
The second is the program.
> > to change the banks. when i go into the event list, under kind i choose
> > controler, but what do i put under value?? i can't get it workin.
thanx
In the N on-board sequencer, event edit, the bank change is on the
Program Change line! You'll see it represented by actual bank nos, e.g.
A:34, GM:12, etc. No complicated numbers at all. You can cursor
over either the program number OR the bank number, and just change the
bank. Easy!
jg
I guess it means every time u load a song on your c/walk u hv to set the
effects of any of your 10S's on your N......right?
Or is there any other way?
>> >>I just want to know if it's possible to assign Effects on N from
>> >>Cakewalk the way u control for ex. Volume/Pan..
> >
> >It seems impossible to select effect (phaser, distortion, reverb etc)
via
> >MIDI. Atleast I haven't found a single way to do it, after going
through
> >the MIDI implementation charts in the Reference Guide rather
thoroughly.
> >
> >This sucks.
> >
> >It's possible to select effects via MIDI SysEx in program and combi
mode
> >only. So if you don't need more than 8 MIDI channels, you could use
combi
> >mode for multitimbral playback. There are a couple of drawbacks to this
> >though. I guess selecting which program to use on each channel will be
a
> >bit difficult, since a program change MIDI message will be interpreted
as a
> >combi change. But I haven't tested, so I'm not sure...
I came across a problem with Cakewalk (version 6):
How do I send the MIDI system common message "song select", i.e. F3 0x
(where x is the song number), to my N364?
It's not a SysEx code, neither is it a MIDI controller....
At 15:32 1998-04-03 -0800, Hasnat M wrote:
> >I guess it means every time u load a song on your c/walk u hv to set the
> >effects of any of your 10S's on your N......right?
Thank KORG for that. :)
> >Or is there any other way?
Well, there's atleast one alternative. The method I'll start using very
soon msyelf is this:
1. Clear the internal sequencer (a quick way is to load initial.sng).
2. Edit the effect settings for one of the songs, preferably number 9.
3. Use Cakewalk/Cubase/whatever to request all sequencer data.
4. Put the received SysEx in the start of a track, or in a SysEx bank if
using Cakewalk. Also include a GM mode on message (F0 7E 7F 09 01 F7),
which will put the Nx64 in seq mode song 9.
5. When using Cakewalk, set both the GM mode message bank and the SysEx
sequencer data bank to "auto".
Step 1 is a good way to keep the SysEx data amount down, which gives
shorter MIDI transfer times.
Now, next time the song is loaded, the Nx64's internal sequencer will be
overwritten and song 9 will have the desired effect settings. The Nx64 will
also enter seq mode song 9, and is ready to play.
This is a brute-force method, but it should work. Take care not to loose
any important work in the internal sequencer though!
Thanx Ken for the explaination... Will try it l8r
hasnat
>> >>I guess it means every time u load a song on your c/walk u hv to set
the
>> >>effects of any of your 10S's on your N......right?
> >
> >Thank KORG for that. :)
> >
>> >>Or is there any other way?
> >
> >Well, there's atleast one alternative. The method I'll start using very
> >soon msyelf is this:
> >
> >1. Clear the internal sequencer (a quick way is to load initial.sng).
> >2. Edit the effect settings for one of the songs, preferably number 9.
> >3. Use Cakewalk/Cubase/whatever to request all sequencer data.
> >4. Put the received SysEx in the start of a track, or in a SysEx bank
if
> > using Cakewalk. Also include a GM mode on message (F0 7E 7F 09 01
F7),
> > which will put the Nx64 in seq mode song 9.
> >5. When using Cakewalk, set both the GM mode message bank and the SysEx
> > sequencer data bank to "auto".
> >
> >Step 1 is a good way to keep the SysEx data amount down, which gives
> >shorter MIDI transfer times.
> >
> >Now, next time the song is loaded, the Nx64's internal sequencer will
be
> >overwritten and song 9 will have the desired effect settings. The Nx64
will
> >also enter seq mode song 9, and is ready to play.
> >
> >This is a brute-force method, but it should work. Take care not to
loose
> >any important work in the internal sequencer though!
Actually I sequence in Combi mode all the time. You have to go to global and
select on page 3a "prg" for prog:. (sorry, it's hard to word that action very
clearly). This sets it up so that you don't change combis when changing
individual programs. Also, you need to activate every voice in the combi and
set them to different midi channels (unless you want to layer two of them and
get really confused.)
I just got my N264 this weekend. So far I'm not haveing any problems
useing cakewalk as an external sequencer If I only want to use
PROGRAMS banks a-c and GM. with out any effects.
Can someone walk me through setting some effects, or possibly useing
any combi's with cakewalk.
Please understand that I'm very new to both cakewalk 6.0 and the N264.
Please don't leave out any steps which one might assume I should know.
Has anyone considered creating a STUDIOWARE panel to apply effects to
the TRACKS. I don't have much expeirence with STUDIOWARE but I have
seen panels for some of th YAMAHA TONE GENERATORS <MU100R>. Which
allow them to apply the effects they want to each track.
Also IS there a INS file out there with PROGRAMS and COMBIS, in it.
IF so could someone please emial it to me. Thanks.
Very NEW, Novice MIDI Guru, and Music Lover
Rob Samples
At 14:27 1998-04-06 -0700, Robert Samples wrote:
> >Can someone walk me through setting some effects, or possibly useing
> >any combi's with cakewalk.
Do you mean send C/D settings or effect processor settings? The first is no
problem (send C is midi controller 91 and send D is midi controller 93),
but the second is.
To play combis from any external sequencer, simply switch to combi mode on
your N (or send a SysEx code for that). Bank selections work the same way
as for seq or prog mode (except for the GM bank which doesn't exist in
combi mode).
> >Has anyone considered creating a STUDIOWARE panel to apply effects to
> >the TRACKS.
Yup. I might do one if I find time for it.
> >Also IS there a INS file out there with PROGRAMS and COMBIS, in it.
> >IF so could someone please emial it to me. Thanks.
There are two INS files, KorgN264.ins and KorgN364.ins. The first is more
complete. However, I've made my own version (N364.ins) which combines the
best of these two and I've also put more midi controllers in.
You can get the first two INS files from:
ftp://ftp.ncal.verio.com/pub/users/sad001/
I'll probably put my own INS on this adress later. I'll let you know when I
do.
Hello to all,
my name is Sven and I am new to this list (and to my N364 ;-)). So I just
want to say hello and pose a question:
When using a combination (e.g. Strings and Piano as layered sounds), how
can I change the volume of one of the timbres/ sounds during playing? Can I
put the volume control on the value slider or the joystick? What I intend
to do is starting playing with only the piano sound and then turning up the
volume of the strings without having to change to the edit-mode of the
combination.
Any help is appreciated.
Cheers
Sven
Would any list member recommend a good music editor/sequencer which they
have found useful for composition and arrangment work?
I feel that the software which came with my 264 (Cubasis, a simpler
version of Cubase) is oriented towards entering tracks from the keyboard.
I can do this, but since I am a flute/recorder player, keyboard is not
really my home ground. I want to find software which encourages really
convenient entry of parts from the mouse and keyboard with, of course,
immediate playback to check the sounds.
Any thoughts on this?
Robert
*@*.com
Hi Robert,
> >Would any list member recommend a good music editor/sequencer which they
> >have found useful for composition and arrangment work?
Take a look at Finale (http://www.codamusic.com). It is a very good music
notation program where you can enter the parts (music) quickly with or
without using a keyboard and a mouse. You can also record whole tracks by
playing the keyboard. It has a built-in sequencer but its features can not
be compared to those of Cubase or Cakewalk. Arranging is more complicated
than with sequencing-only programs, but it is possible.
You can download a demo version from the above mentioned homepage. I use
version 3.7 which runs fine under NT 4.0, but I have no experience with the
version Finale 97.
Ciao
Sven
> > To play combis from any external sequencer, simply switch to combi
mode on
> > your N (or send a SysEx code for that). Bank selections work the
same way
> > as for seq or prog mode (except for the GM bank which doesn't exist in
> > combi mode).
Isn't it true though that you can play only one channel at a time this
way. In other words I couldn't have COMB A 32 playing a track and
COMB b13 playing a track at the same time. Correct....
Is there a way to do this, with this tone generator, if not that is
fine. I'm looking to add a Yamaha MU100R to my midi setup shortly.
>> > >Would any list member recommend a good music editor/sequencer which they
>> > >have found useful for composition and arrangment work?
> >
> > Take a look at Finale (http://www.codamusic.com). It is a very good music
Well, my advice is to try Finale only if you have the next year to spend
just learning the program. And only if you are mainly interested in
working with music notation. Finale's MIDI transcription/playback is not
good. It is basically a music notation program, after all, and I've not
heard anyone ever describe it as easy to use.
If you ARE mainly interested in music notation, Opcode's Overture is much,
much easier to use, and has much, much better MIDI operability, including
a Graphic Editing window. It's only available for Mac, however, at
this time.
If music notation is not that important, or is only one aspect of your
abilities, just go for a better sequencer. Cubasis is an entry-level
sequencer, so has entry-level abilities. Check out Cubase, from which
Cubasis derived. Or any of the other pro sequencers: Vision from
Opcode, Logic from Emagic, etc. You will find something here to
satisfy you, I'm sure, or at the very least, to take you a further step
on the path.....
jg.
At 10:21 1998-04-09 -0700, Robert Samples wrote:
>> >> To play combis from any external sequencer, simply switch to combi
>> >> mode on your N
> >
> >Isn't it true though that you can play only one channel at a time this
> >way. In other words I couldn't have COMB A 32 playing a track and
> >COMB b13 playing a track at the same time. Correct....
That's right. You can only play one combi at a time in combi mode.
If you want to play more than one, you can copy combis to the internal
sequencer. Sometimes when I want to use a combi in a song, I copy each
channel's settings to my external sequencer (in this case Cakewalk) and
play it from there. That's cumbersome though. I usually sample each combi,
playing solo, separately and have it played with my computer sound card
instead.
> >I'm looking to add a Yamaha MU100R to my midi setup shortly.
I think I've heard of that one. Is it a new sound module?
This is the question I sent to KORG:
> > Can I redistribute the disks from the N264/N364 rebate offer for free in
> > archived form (e.g. zipped) on a private FTP site?
And this is what they answered:
> > Unfortunately, no. You can make backups for your own use... anything
> > further would be unauthorized, as these disks are otherwise from the
> > recent promo "for sale"...
Perhaps, if we are lucky, it will be authorized to distribute the disks
when they are no longer part of the promo offer....
But spread them if you want to. I'm not responsible for your actions, and
neither will I let KORG know that you do so. :)
Should we then remove the files n-disks.zip and rpprdrum.zip from the ftp
site? I recommend that we do before someone gets in trouble.
> >This is the question I sent to KORG:
> >
>> >> Can I redistribute the disks from the N264/N364 rebate offer for free in
>> >> archived form (e.g. zipped) on a private FTP site?
> >
> >And this is what they answered:
> >
>> >> Unfortunately, no. You can make backups for your own use... anything
>> >> further would be unauthorized, as these disks are otherwise from the
>> >> recent promo "for sale"...
John
At 09:23 1998-04-10 -0400, John Schulz wrote:
> >Should we then remove the files n-disks.zip and rpprdrum.zip from the ftp
> >site? I recommend that we do before someone gets in trouble.
It's up to Steve Day, since it's his site.
Personally I wouldn't remove them unless KORG warned me personally, but
that's me. I doubt KORG cares too much.
How can I assign separate output ( L, R, 3, 4) on my song ( sequence mode )?
For ex. in my drumkit (track 10), I need the bass drum output in Left & the snare drum in right then hihat on output 3 & tom on output 4. Is it possible ( this is needed in studio situation )
At 13:45 1998-04-08 +0100, Sven Hartwig wrote:
> >When using a combination (e.g. Strings and Piano as layered sounds), how
> >can I change the volume of one of the timbres/ sounds during playing?
The easiest way is to use "combi performance edit". If you for example want
to change the volume of timbre #3 during playing, press button 3 (the third
button to the right of the volume slider, top row - it has a dark blue 3
above it).
Now position the cursor over the volume (one step to the right), and you
can use the value slider to continuosly change the volume of the selected
timbre during playing. Changes in performance edit mode aren't saved, so
there's no risk of losing the original settings.
Yes it's possible. You'll need to set up your sequence so that each drum is
on a different channel (just set up four different channels with the same drum
kit on each channel). Then pan the kick drum channel to "A", the snare to
"B". Turn the toms and hat to "off" for panning, and then send the hat to
send "C" (you have to be in edit mode if you to do this part) and the tom
channel to send "D". Now go to the page right after the effects and select
"ParallellSub" for the effects scheme. I use this all the time to dump parts
to my multitrack. Let me know if it works.
If you have an expression pedal, You can set it (I think) to "Data Entry"
under the Global parameters. Then you could do this by foot instead of by
hand.
You would think there'd be a way to do this via midi expression or volume,
but I can't think of how that would work off hand. Anyone else?
There seems to be a lot of confusion about how the effects and the different
modes work on the N. Let me attempt (hah!) to clear some of this up.
The N series has sixteen multitimbral parts. In Program mode, you can only
play one of these parts. It sends on channel one (or whatever your base midi
channel is).
In Combi mode, you are using UP TO eight parts, (each one a program), each of
which can respond on any midi channel (they can all be set to the same one,
too).
In Sequencer mode, you can use up to sixteen parts, each of which can be set
to any midi channel.
So therefore, (assuming you sequence from sequencer mode and not combi mode),
you have sixteen parts and sixteen channels to work with. If you have three
parts on one channel, you don't have fifteen parts left even though you have
fifteen channels left. You only have thirteen parts left. Conversely, if you
use two channels to control another synthesizer, even though you have only
fourteen channels left, you still have sixteen parts to work with (some will
have to share channels, and essentially be layered).
All of this, no matter what mode you're in, gets put through two (2) effects
processors, and only two effects processors. There are only two on board, and
no more. So if you have a delay and overdrive on your drum kit in program
mode, you can't go to sequencer mode and add a phaser without dropping either
delay or overdrive.
This all may seem basic to most people, but there are a lot of first-time
synthesizer owners out there who have made the error of lumping programs and
combis together under the category of "sounds" without realizing the
difference.
I hope that clears things up! :-)
PS-maybe we should start some kind of group FAQ doc?
Hello! I was wondering if there is a way to save the changes u make to an
smf, i make changes WHILE it's playing..but then they go back, is there a
way?? thanx in advance! =)
Mike
Hi,
I am a new Korg user. I bought this keyboard month back and have
just started on it. I have a question. In N364 is there any way to
arrange a specific part of the song. What I mean is if in a song the
bass part is simple and I just want it to follow a certain sequence of
chords, what will be the best way to do this in N364 without actually
recording the bass for the whole song. Any inputs regarding this will
be very helpful to me.
Take Care
Murali
I asked KORG if the Nx64 promo offer disks could be distributed for free
after the promo offer was over, but not even that is ok.
The disks are available for sale at KORG USA's homepage (www.korg.com).
That's it and that's that... :(
At 09:35 13/04/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >What I mean is if in a song the bass part is simple and I just want it to
> >follow a certain sequence of
> >chords, what will be the best way to do this in N364 without actually
> >recording the bass for the whole song.
> >Take Care
> >Murali
> >
> >
first of all, wellcome!
i think that the best way to do what you want, if i understood correctly, is
to use a software like band in a box, where you can put the sequence of
chords you want and the bass part will follow it. then, copy the file into
your n364 as .mid format.
i hope this helps.
beny
I know this isn't the place for this question but here it goes. I can't
get my AWE64 GOLD to record audio in Cakewalk 6.0 using my N264. I just
can't get it to record the audio from the LEFT/MONO into the LINE IN on
the card.
Any Ideas.
Hi!
I have had some problems with using outputs 3 and 4 on my 364 in sequencer mode. On a gig I would like to assign bass into output 3 and kick drum into output 4 to be directed into a separate bass amp/subwoofer. I would like to do this to improve the bass and kick drum sound AND to save my PA speakers from breaking down... I intended to use a Marshall Bass amp plus 1x15 Hartke cabinet plus
4x10 marshall cabinet. For the other instruments + vocals I would of course use the PA amp + speaker system.
It seems that, in sequencer mode (PLACEMENT), ONLY THE WHOLE SONG CAN BE ASSIGNED TO PARALLEL SUB OR
SERIAL SUB. So, if I assign the track to parallel sub or serial sub. And even if I manage to get the bass out of Output 3, the L/R outputs seem to have really weird-sounding stuff (lots of reverb!)
I have aldo changed (on page 1A) the SEND C/SEND D parameters but no. I have also tried to edit
the program parameters in Program Edit mode.
I find this rather annoying because I used to have Korg O1W Pro a few years back and it worked just
fine: I could direct bass and kick to a separate amp via outputs 3 and 4.
Am I perhaps doing something wrong???
If someone has a solution, please let me know.
Erkki Erkkilä
Finland
Chandra,
Now I won't say that I've really explored all of the tricks on this
thing because it's by backup board but I think what you are describing
is an ideal situation in which pattern record/play can be used. There
are some demo sample patterns on your factory disks and more are
available through others; on the latter statement, the "more" seem to
be getting less and less available due to KORG'S encouragement to spread
them around piberally. d;-}
Best regards,
Tom
Chandra Murali wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I am a new Korg user. I bought this keyboard month back and have
> > just started on it. I have a question. In N364 is there any way to
> > arrange a specific part of the song. What I mean is if in a song the
> > bass part is simple and I just want it to follow a certain sequence of
> > chords, what will be the best way to do this in N364 without actually
> > recording the bass for the whole song. Any inputs regarding this will
> > be very helpful to me.
> >
> > Take Care
> > Murali
In a message dated 4/13/98 2:59:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET writes:
<< I could direct bass and kick to a separate amp via outputs 3 and 4. >>
I wish I could help, that is exactly what I'm trying to do too... and help?
Dave
> > You would think there'd be a way to do this via midi expression or
volume,
> > but I can't think of how that would work off hand. Anyone else?
Yes. In Combi Edit, you have the option to Filter certain types of MIDI
messages to individual timbres. Pitch Bend, Damper, Controllers, and
one other. If you Disable Controller reception for the Piano sound,
then Piano will not receive Expression pedal information. If the Strings
timbre has Controllers enabled, then it WILL respond to the Expression
pedal. Save the Combi to memory before you finish.
jg
> > I have had some problems with using outputs 3 and 4 on my 364 in
sequencer mode. On a gig I would like to assign bass into output 3 and kick
drum into output 4 to be directed into a separate bass amp/subwoofer. I
would like to do this to
Sorry, I don't have either an N or the manual in front of me, but.....
to be absolutely clear about where the signal if going, you should check
the page in the manual that has a diagram of each Effects Placement option.
Serial (the first option) is probably the way to go. With Serial
Placement, the 2 effects are in series, and will be heard on all tracks
panned L<>R, going to outputs 1 and 2.
Then, if you use Send 3 or Send 4 on any timbres, they will go to outputs
3 or 4 respectively, with no effects. (If you use Parallel 1 Placement,
you'll have effects here, which can be useful in some situations.) If
you don't want these timbres to appear in the main outputs, then you will
need to turn them off - I think the Pan pot has an OFF position, unless
I'm confusing the N with the 01/W.
All the best,
jg.
I need some "getting started" advice. I know most of you on the n-list are
leap years ahead of me in sequencing, arranging, etc. I'm picking up most of
the tricks for recording my music, e.g. layering,coping tracks,punch in,etc.
But at this point I've yet to figure out how to record drum kits, pattern
sets, create patterns with drum kits,etc. I just need some simple drum
sections to fill in for the music I write, rather than depend on the
metronome to keep beat. I've read the books and followed the instuctions,
but can't seem to get it. I've emptied the sequencer memory and reloaded
pattern sets, but don't know how to get them incorperated into my songs. I'm
sure it's simple. I just need the magic words. If I can jump this hurdle
I'll move on to PC based programs (then I'll really need some good advice).
I'm saving most of the e-mail from the n-list for future reference. Wish I
were at that level.
Thanks
David Wright
You don't tell me what the actual problem is. Here some tips to start out
with:
I've been using my AWE64 for recording together with midi on my N264.
It works fine, but you can not set it up for Full Duplex operations with the
AWE. However, you can play several audio tracks simultaneously. Check that
the full duplex box is not checked. Also, you must change the channel
setting so audio recording. I use one channel for Left and one for right.
I use 2 mono cables that plugs into a single mini stereo adapter plug at the
end. Check if your cable is a mono or stereo cable. If you have a stereo
cable - use the phones port from the NX64 instead. Its in stereo.
See that the volume for the input device is up and that it is not muted on
the mixer.
I think there is a setting in the creative mixer where you can select which
device that should be used for recording.
Maybe It defaults to MIC. Change it to Aux/Line In or whatever port you are
using.
Also check what directory you are using when recording. Maybe you are out of
space? I have seen som trouble when using a directory that contains spaces
or strange letters (such as swedish letters ... ÅÄÖ).
Since the AWE can not handle full duplex using 44.1 KHZ, I bought myself an
Ensoniq Audio PCI and it works super!
I think it has much better MIDI sounds as well (not as good as my NX64
although). There are 8 MB samples available from ensoniq (for free!).
Further more, a PCI soundcard is potentially faster then any ISA soundcard.
And it's not very expensive!
I use 264, Cakewalk 6.1 and Ensoniq. A perfect match for me.
-------------------------------------------------------
Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg
182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering
SWEDEN +46-8-*
http://www.skanska.com <http://www.skanska.com>
<mailto:joakim.*@*.se> mailto:joakim.*@*.se
--------------------------------------------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: Samples, Robert [SMTP:*@*.COM]
Sent: den 13 april 1998 20:15
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Cakewalk Question
I know this isn't the place for this question but here it goes. I
can't
get my AWE64 GOLD to record audio in Cakewalk 6.0 using my N264. I
just
can't get it to record the audio from the LEFT/MONO into the LINE IN
on
the card.
Any Ideas.
Does anyone know if cakewalk 7 is out?
At 20:16 1998-04-12 -0400, SA11075 wrote:
> >In Sequencer mode, you can use up to sixteen parts, each of which can be set
> >to any midi channel.
> >
> >If you have three parts on one channel, you don't have fifteen parts left
> >eventhough you have fifteen channels left. You only have thirteen parts
> >left.
I think you've misunderstood something here?
It seems you are referring to voice polyphony as "parts"? The Nx64 has 64
voice polyphony which can be shared over 16 midi channels when in sequencer
mode (or over one channel in program mode or over a max of 8 channels in
combi mode).
Most programs use two voices (oscillators), so if I for example play a
chord of three notes on channel one, that would need 6 voices, leaving 58
voices for the other channels.
Please explain what you mean by "part".
> >Conversely, if you use two channels to control another synthesizer, even
> >though you have only fourteen channels left, you still have sixteen parts to
> >work with (some will have to share channels, and essentially be layered).
In polyphony words, you mean that the 64 voices are then shared over 14
channels instead of 16.
> >PS-maybe we should start some kind of group FAQ doc?
I would if I had the time. If somebody is interested in going through all
N-list logs and create a FAQ out of them, please do. I can put the FAQ on
my homepage.
Since many people have trouble understanding the use of the effect
processors in sequencer mode, this is an obvious thing to write about in
the FAQ.
You might be on to something here, with the full duplex. I will turn it
off and see if I'm able to record.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joakim Lundberg [mailto:Joakim.*@*.SE]
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 8:53 AM
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Re: Cakewalk Question
You don't tell me what the actual problem is. Here some tips to start
out
with:
I've been using my AWE64 for recording together with midi on my N264.
It works fine, but you can not set it up for Full Duplex operations with
the
AWE. However, you can play several audio tracks simultaneously. Check
that
the full duplex box is not checked. Also, you must change the channel
setting so audio recording. I use one channel for Left and one for
right.
I use 2 mono cables that plugs into a single mini stereo adapter plug at
the
end. Check if your cable is a mono or stereo cable. If you have a stereo
cable - use the phones port from the NX64 instead. Its in stereo.
See that the volume for the input device is up and that it is not muted
on
the mixer.
I think there is a setting in the creative mixer where you can select
which
device that should be used for recording.
Maybe It defaults to MIC. Change it to Aux/Line In or whatever port you
are
using.
Also check what directory you are using when recording. Maybe you are
out of
space? I have seen som trouble when using a directory that contains
spaces
or strange letters (such as swedish letters ... ÅÄÖ).
Since the AWE can not handle full duplex using 44.1 KHZ, I bought myself
an
Ensoniq Audio PCI and it works super!
I think it has much better MIDI sounds as well (not as good as my NX64
although). There are 8 MB samples available from ensoniq (for free!).
Further more, a PCI soundcard is potentially faster then any ISA
soundcard.
And it's not very expensive!
I use 264, Cakewalk 6.1 and Ensoniq. A perfect match for me.
-------------------------------------------------------
Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg
182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering
SWEDEN +46-8-*
http://www.skanska.com <http://www.skanska.com>
<mailto:joakim.*@*.se> mailto:joakim.*@*.se
--------------------------------------------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: Samples, Robert [SMTP:*@*.COM]
Sent: den 13 april 1998 20:15
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Cakewalk Question
I know this isn't the place for this question but here it goes.
I
can't
get my AWE64 GOLD to record audio in Cakewalk 6.0 using my N264.
I
just
can't get it to record the audio from the LEFT/MONO into the
LINE IN
on
the card.
Any Ideas.
At 21:58 1998-04-13 +0300, Erkki Erkkilä wrote:
> >I have had some problems with using outputs 3 and 4 on my 364 in sequencer
> >mode. On a gig I would like to assign bass into output 3 and kick drum into
> >output 4 to be directed into a separate bass amp/subwoofer.
> >
> >It seems that, in sequencer mode (PLACEMENT), ONLY THE WHOLE SONG CAN BE
> >ASSIGNED TO PARALLEL SUB OR SERIAL SUB.
True, because the Nx64 only has two effect processors as a total. If you
had two effect processors per channel, you could select placement for each
channel separately.
> >And even if I manage to get the bass out of Output 3, the L/R outputs seem to
> >have really weird-sounding stuff (lots of reverb!)
Take a good look at the parallel sub and serial sub effect placements in
the Reference Guide, page 61.
Using output 3 and 4 is problematic when it comes to the effects.
If you want to have effects added to the the bass (output 3) and kick
(output 4), you must use parallell sub placement. Then there is an
additional problem: effect 1 is added to bus A/B, and effect 2 to C/D. This
means that you can only have one effect added to the bass+kick, and the
other effect added to bus A/B (i.e. the other instruments).
If you only want to add reverb, then there's no problem. Set both effect
processors to the same effect, for example Hall reverb. Now the A/B and C/D
outputs will have the same effect added.
Please notice that you can't set individual effect sends when in parallel
sub or serial sub placements!! The only way to control the amount of effect
is to change DRY:EFF settings on pages 7A and 7C, one window to the right.
The reason why you get a lot of reverb is because DRY:EFF is set to FX as
default. 70:30 or 80:20 is a more humane level.
If you don't want any effects added to the bass and kick at all, then use
serial sub placement.
To send to output 3, set pan to OFF (in the sequencer track view) and send
C (seq edit page 1A) to 9 (or lower if you want less volume). Set send D to 0.
Output 4: set pan to OFF, send D to 9 (full volume), send C to 0.
Output 1: set pan to A, send C and send D to 0.
Output 2: set pan to B, send C and send D to 0.
Cheers!
At 15:54 1998-04-14 +0200, Joakim Lundberg wrote:
> >Does anyone know if cakewalk 7 is out?
Check www.cakewalk.com
At 21:53 1998-04-12 -0400, Mike Broer wrote:
> >Hello! I was wondering if there is a way to save the changes u make to an
> >smf, i make changes WHILE it's playing..but then they go back, is there a
> >way?? thanx in advance! =)
As far as I know, you can't make permanent changes while the sequencer is
playing.
When you load an SMF into your Nx64, it will be converted to the Nx64 song
format. Edit the song as usual, and then save it as an SMF again.
Note that the Nx64 will put initial program/volume/reverb/chorus settings
in a temporary buffer, which means that if you edit an SMF and save it
again, these settings will be lost. The manuals says that this is normal
procedure for the Nx64. You can force the Nx64 to store the settings
permanently by "retyping" them.
What are you trying to do?
At 15:52 1998-04-14 +0200, Joakim Lundberg wrote:
> >I've been using my AWE64 for recording together with midi on my N264.
> >It works fine, but you can not set it up for Full Duplex operations with the
> >AWE.
Yes you can. I can (with my AWE64 Gold).
Full duplex works fine with Cakewalk, but Cakewalk decides if it's on or
off. Set Cakewalk to do simultaneos record/playback and have full duplex
switched on in the AWE settings, and it will work.
But playback is only 8-bit then. That's the problem. So only have
simultaneos rec/play in Cakewalk when you need it, like when you're
recording live vocals. Record is always 16-bit.
> >Since the AWE can not handle full duplex using 44.1 KHZ
It can. You need drivers newer than from mid-1997 though.
I doubt full duplex is the cause of the problem. The other reasons you
mentioned are more likely (cable/mixer/level problem)...
At 13:15 1998-04-13 -0500, Samples, Robert wrote:
> >I know this isn't the place for this question but here it goes. I can't
> >get my AWE64 GOLD to record audio in Cakewalk 6.0 using my N264. I just
> >can't get it to record the audio from the LEFT/MONO into the LINE IN on
> >the card.
I guess you already know that you need two tracks to record stereo in
Cakewalk? Set one track to left audio input and the other to right audio
input. Set pan 0 on the first (hard left) and pan 127 on the second (hard
right). Make sure volume level isn't 0 on any of the tracks.
At 19:56 1998-04-12 -0400, SA11075 wrote:
> >Yes it's possible. You'll need to set up your sequence so that each drum is
> >on a different channel (just set up four different channels with the same
drum
> >kit on each channel). Then pan the kick drum channel to "A", the snare to
> >"B". Turn the toms and hat to "off" for panning, and then send the hat to
> >send "C" (you have to be in edit mode if you to do this part) and the tom
> >channel to send "D". Now go to the page right after the effects and select
> >"ParallellSub" for the effects scheme. I use this all the time to dump parts
> >to my multitrack. Let me know if it works.
Also reduce fx amount (DRY:EFF) to normal levels. Else all outputs will
have very wet fx.
Thanks for help!
Outputs 3 and 4 are working fine now! Kenneth´s advice was precious. I also had to change
some control data (contollers 10, 91 and 93) for pan setting. Now I have to change
all the controller data for all my songs but it´s really worth the troube!
Best wishes
Erkki Erkkilä
Finland
What you are describing can be done; I know firsthand. However, I'm not sure
why it isn't working for you. Check the following:
1. Only the instruments you want out three and four are being sent to c/d
2. The Wet/Dry ratio on the reverb is not at "Fx" (i.e. 100%)
3. If you don't want the bass and kick in the main mix (L/R), make sure they
are turned to "off" in the pan parameter. Make sure, however, that their
levels are still reasonably high and they are not set to "mute". Only the Pan
parameter should be set to "off"
4. Make sure you are using a separate channel for the kick drum part;
otherwise the whole drum part will come through that send.
since you did own the 01/W, most of this you have probably already done.
Still, that's the best I can tell you without actually seeing the instrument.
Good Luck!!
alan
Yeah, "part" was a poor choice of terminology; I'm not sure how to describe
what I'm saying, which is pretty bad considering I was trying to clarify
something.
"Part" would be defined as one multitimbral voice; the N is 16 part
multitimbral--you can play 16 different timbres (programs) at once. It also
responds on 16 midi channels, but I was trying to point out that these two
things are independant of one another--that is, you can play sixteen
multitimbral parts on less than 16 midi channels.
In any case, you cannot play more than a total of sixteen different timbres
(or programs) on the N at one time, even though you can play more than one on
a given midi channel. One might be tempted to think, for example, that since
I have a piano program and a string program both assigned to channel 1, that
(since there are 15 midi channels tracks left) I could use 15 other programs
as well, but this is not the case.
To sum up what I was saying, then, the N will play (in seq mode) sixteen
multitimbral parts (timbres, programs, etc.), allocated to up to sixteen midi
channels, which will all go through two and no more than two effects
processors.
I hope that's more clear! :-)
alan
I'm just making the smf's i download sound better by changing the kit, or
whatever, nothing really important...thanx!
_________________________________________________________
Mike Broer
email: *@*.net
----------
> > From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: smf's
> > Date: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 5:29 PM
> >
> > At 21:53 1998-04-12 -0400, Mike Broer wrote:
> >
>> > >Hello! I was wondering if there is a way to save the changes u make to
an
>> > >smf, i make changes WHILE it's playing..but then they go back, is there
a
>> > >way?? thanx in advance! =)
> >
> > As far as I know, you can't make permanent changes while the sequencer is
> > playing.
> >
> > When you load an SMF into your Nx64, it will be converted to the Nx64
song
> > format. Edit the song as usual, and then save it as an SMF again.
> >
> > Note that the Nx64 will put initial program/volume/reverb/chorus settings
> > in a temporary buffer, which means that if you edit an SMF and save it
> > again, these settings will be lost. The manuals says that this is normal
> > procedure for the Nx64. You can force the Nx64 to store the settings
> > permanently by "retyping" them.
> >
> > What are you trying to do?
To who this may concern,
I would greatly appreciate it if I were to be taken off of the mailing
list for the NX64. I Can't find the time time toread and answer the email.
I am sorry.
Azal Khan
*@*.com
At 11:28 1998-04-16 -0400, Mike Broer wrote:
> >I'm just making the smf's i download sound better by changing the kit, or
> >whatever, nothing really important...thanx!
Ok.
Have you tried saving an edited SMF to disk, and then loading it back to an
empty song in the internal sequencer of your Nx64? Do you lose all the
instrument settings (including send C/D) then? There is a way to avoid this.
Hi guys
can u tell me a reason. I dont seem to be able to record the
AFTERTOUCHES fm my N to the CW6. Well atleast I can see them in the
Event list. Are the hiding somewhere, or do i hv to turn on someting
to record them......
Hasnat
You need to check both the record filters on cakewalk and the transmit/receive
filters on the N. If you're sequencing in sequencer mode, I think these are
found on one of the edit pages (the filters on the N).
What are you controlling with aftertouch? Modulation or the effects?
If you have a program with an effect being controlled by aftertouch and you go
to sequencer mode, the effects will be changed to default and will not be
aftertouch controlled unless you set them to be.
I need some suggestions for amps to run my keyboards thru. I'm currently
using two small Crate bass amps and very dissatisfied with the lack of
quality in sound. Although, most of the time I'm using head phones to
compose, I need something that gives truer quality during performance.
thanks,
David
I've created a sysex dump request macro for Cakewalk, to be put in
wincake.ini. Since it's small, I'll take the liberty to attach it to this
mail.
By the way, how do I use .drm files? Pasting into wincake.ini works, but...
Deleted: Korg N264 & N364.drm
An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Korg N264 & N364.drm"
Attachments:
Deleted: Korg N264 & N364.drm 211 bytes
I have some problems with requesting a dump of the current program via
sysex. It seems that when you request the current program parameters, they
are fetched from some temporary buffer instead of the program. I get around
the problem by "updating" this buffer (or what it is) by pressing the
cursor (to the right of the on-board display) up and then down before
requesting. Then it works just fine.
If anyone of you have found the same problem, then I guess it's just a
non-serious bug in the Nx64 operating system...
Hi!
The joystick on my N364 has gotten a bit "loose" sideways, to the left of
the center. The stick doesn't go back to the center completely after doing
a pitch bend to the left.
Does anybody know an easy way to fix this, or should I send my N364 for
repairs?
Help! I'm brand new at this MIDI stuff. How do I configure the N364
(MIDI-wise) to work with Freestyle/Opcode MIDI interface/Macintosh. Can
anyone help me with the N364 settings so I can send/receive the MIDI
info from Freestyle? Your help is appreciated!
Chris
Aliso Viejo, CA
> > I need some suggestions for amps to run my keyboards thru. I'm currently
> > using two small Crate bass amps and very dissatisfied with the lack of
Wow! Almost anything will be better than two bass amps! Two Crate
keyboard amps, for example. But if it's for home, even a decent hi-fi
system is better. If you can go for studio monitors, check out Event
Electronics 20/20 series.
www.event1.com
All the best,
jg
> > sysex. It seems that when you request the current program parameters,
they
> > are fetched from some temporary buffer instead of the program. I get
around
Most synths work like this: they have "x" number of patches, plus one -
the Edit buffer. The Edit buffer contains a copy of the last patch you
called into memory, or alternatively, a patch that is not in memory at
all, because it's the last patch that you edited. What you're
experiencing is probably not a bug.
jg.
I'd send it in; probably a bad spring. If you open the case to fix it you'll
probably void any warranty you have
Can anyone tell me the differences between the N364 and the N5 besides
the sequencer? Are the sounds the same? Are they both compatible with X3
patches? Does the N364 have a better keyboard? I'll be using my Mac for
sequencing (no live gigs) so I don't care much about the sequencer
function. Does the N364 give me any other advantages over the N5 for
the difference in price? Your collective wealth of knowledge is
appreciated :)
I took the liberty to post my reply to the N-list:
At 07:11 1998-04-24 -0400, Sneaksound wrote:
> > I just picked up a Korg N5 and am looking for someone who might have created
> >the instrument definitions so I can load them into Cakewalk...Do you know of
> >anywhere I might find ?
You're probably the first N5 owner on this list?
As far as I know there are no Cakewalk definitions for the N5 yet, but you
could use the N264/N364 definitions for basis and create one yourself. I
guess most patch names aren't the same, but still...
Oh, and a question for you:
Can you switch portamento on/off via MIDI for any timbre in "multi" mode?
> >Thanks for your web page
You're welcome. There's not much there yet though. ;)
At 23:10 1998-04-24 +1000, J+G Grant wrote:
>> >> It seems that when you request the current program parameters,
>> >> they are fetched from some temporary buffer instead of the program.
> >
> >Most synths work like this: they have "x" number of patches, plus one -
> > the Edit buffer. The Edit buffer contains a copy of the last patch you
> >called into memory, or alternatively, a patch that is not in memory at
> >all, because it's the last patch that you edited. What you're
> >experiencing is probably not a bug.
If it's not a bug, KORG must be a bit stupid. The SysEx chart clearly
states that it's possible to request the current program. Requesting the
current edit buffer isn't the same. They could have made additional
"temporary edit buffer request" SysEx for both Prog and Combi mode. Or
atleast mention in the Reference Guide what current program request
actually does.
I've asked KORG Support about this, so I'll get back to you all when/if
they reply.
I can sometimes agree that the Reference Guide lacks. On some pages, KORG
refer to hexadecimal values in examples, while the table values are
decimal. Beginners will definately have problems with this. Not to mention
the MIDI reference charts. Urgh! ;)
At 08:24 1998-04-14 -0400, David Wright wrote:
> >But at this point I've yet to figure out how to record drum kits, pattern
> >sets, create patterns with drum kits,etc. I just need some simple drum
> >sections to fill in for the music I write, rather than depend on the
> >metronome to keep beat. I've read the books and followed the instuctions,
> >but can't seem to get it. I've emptied the sequencer memory and reloaded
> >pattern sets, but don't know how to get them incorperated into my songs. I'm
> >sure it's simple. I just need the magic words. If I can jump this hurdle
> >I'll move on to PC based programs (then I'll really need some good advice).
Well, there's been a good deal of pattern related discussions in the past,
so perhaps you could request the old N-list logs and read them. If you
don't know how to do this, then I can request them for you.
I'm afraid I can't help you, since I never use patterns. What I know is
that pattern set 0 goes with song 0 and so on. You can copy patterns
directly into a track in your song via the sequencer edit mode. Also you
don't have to clear the internal sequencer to use patterns.
If you start using external sequencers you won't need patterns anyway. ;)
At 14:58 1998-04-25 -0400, SA11075 wrote:
> >I'd send it in; probably a bad spring. If you open the case to fix it you'll
> >probably void any warranty you have
I phoned the shop and they promised to fix it right away. Good service is
nice. :)
At 00:31 1998-04-26 -0700, Chris Wirick wrote:
> >Can anyone tell me the differences between the N364 and the N5 besides
> >the sequencer? Are the sounds the same? Are they both compatible with X3
> >patches? Does the N364 have a better keyboard? I'll be using my Mac for
> >sequencing (no live gigs) so I don't care much about the sequencer
> >function. Does the N364 give me any other advantages over the N5 for
> >the difference in price? Your collective wealth of knowledge is
> >appreciated :)
The number of progs/combis differ a lot:
N364: 336 ROM + 200 RAM progs
200 ROM + 200 RAM combis
N5: 1169 ROM + 100 RAM progs
302 ROM + 100 RAM combis
I guess the N5 has all the ROM progs+combis that the N364 has, but I'm not
sure. As you can see, the flexibility is better with the N364 (more RAM
progs+combis), but the ROM numbers speak in the favour of the N5.
The N5 has 12 MB sample ROM, the N364 has 8 MB.
The N364 is 99% compatible with the X3.
The N5 is probably partially compatible with both the N364 and the X3 when
it comes to RAM progs+combis, but it doesn't support the 200+200 RAM sounds
ofcourse.
The keyboard quality is more or less the same.
Does the N5 have a disk drive? I played with the N5 in a store a while ago,
but I had to go through it quickly since I was in a hurry. The N364 has one.
The N364 has two extra assignable audio outputs, which can sometimes be
useful.
The N5 has one more effect than the N364: resonance. This is very useful
with analog sounds. Many of us N364 owners would like to have this effect,
eventhough it can be simulated by using an overdrive parameter.
The N5 has portamento and 4 useful assignable knobs on the front panel, and
a graphical display (which is much better than the N364 traditional
character display).
All in all, I guess the N5 is a better buy. Not much better, but better. If
you're not interested in the internal sequencer, there's no reason to buy
an N364.
There's no big point for us N264/N364 users to upgrade to an N1/N5 though.
Perhaps you, like me, have noticed that many programs have a lot lower
volume in seq mode than in program mode.
I used to think that's because the Nx64 lowers the volume in order to avoid
clipping during playback, but that isn't the case at all. The only reasons
are the effect settings and effect placement of the program. I assure you
that if you copy the effect settings from any program into a sequencer song
and set send C and D to PRG and PRG, you will get 100% reproduction of the
original program.
Some programs have an odd effect placement, such as a slap bass using
parallell2 with send C/D as volume control (C46 "Slap It" in preload.pcg).
This particular bass can be reprogrammed so it will keep the same volume
even if a sequencer song is using parallell3 effect placement. This is done
by raising both oscillator levels and reducing send C and D.
What I'm saying is that you can edit most programs so they will have the
same volume in seq mode as in prog mode.
It seems that MOTU's (Mark of the Unicorn) patch librarian/editor Unisyn,
for Mac and Windows, has support for the N264/N364. Atleast they're
mentioned in MOTU's latest KORG file update. Check http://www.motu.com/
Does anyone of you use Unisyn? I couldn't find the price of this product.
Is it expensive?
At 09:43 PM 4/27/98 +0200, you wrote:
> >It seems that MOTU's (Mark of the Unicorn) patch librarian/editor Unisyn,
> >for Mac and Windows, has support for the N264/N364. Atleast they're
> >mentioned in MOTU's latest KORG file update. Check http://www.motu.com/
> >
> >Does anyone of you use Unisyn? I couldn't find the price of this product.
> >Is it expensive?
Its pretty expensive for the package, 199$ or something like that. I think
Xedit would be a better buy-50$ and its 99% compatible with the n264/364
At 22:53 1998-04-27 -0400, Steve Wallis wrote:
>> >>Does anyone of you use Unisyn? I couldn't find the price of this product.
>> >>Is it expensive?
> >
> >Its pretty expensive for the package, 199$ or something like that. I think
> >Xedit would be a better buy-50$ and its 99% compatible with the n264/364
Bah, I expected Unisyn to be expensive, but not THAT expensive.
Does Xedit accept multisamples above #340 and parallell/serial sub effect
placements without converting/manipulating? If it does, then it's 100%
compatible with the Nx64 (except for RAM sound card handling).
If not, I guess it should be easy for the Xedit author to include Nx64
support, since it's so close to the X3.
At 09:39 PM 4/28/98 +0200, you wrote:
> >At 22:53 1998-04-27 -0400, Steve Wallis wrote:
> >
>>> >>>Does anyone of you use Unisyn? I couldn't find the price of this product.
>>> >>>Is it expensive?
>> >>
>> >>Its pretty expensive for the package, 199$ or something like that. I think
>> >>Xedit would be a better buy-50$ and its 99% compatible with the n264/364
> >
> >Bah, I expected Unisyn to be expensive, but not THAT expensive.
> >
> >Does Xedit accept multisamples above #340 and parallell/serial sub effect
> >placements without converting/manipulating? If it does, then it's 100%
> >compatible with the Nx64 (except for RAM sound card handling).
> >
> >If not, I guess it should be easy for the Xedit author to include Nx64
> >support, since it's so close to the X3.
> >
It doesnt but thats not too big a problem(at least for me). Im still
debating if i should register the prog or not, think I might wait a bit and
see what those coders who are working on the n346 editors come up with.
Would be nice to have a dedicated n*64 editor anyways..
I did write the coder of Xedit a couple months back and asked him if he
had any plans to make it more compatible with the n364, he said he had
no plans for that whatsoever. Oh well, cant win em all I guess.
Btw has everyone here checked out that DRGN program yet? (Online sequencer)
The things a riot, you can jam with people in realtime over the inet, and
its all free(doesnt get better than that:)
For those of you who havent tried it yet check out www.resrocket.com
Amature input into all these UNISYS stuff........ what exactly does it
do for N364? What can u do with it?
hasnat :)
> >At 22:53 1998-04-27 -0400, Steve Wallis wrote:
> >
>>> >>>Does anyone of you use Unisyn? I couldn't find the price of this
product.
>>> >>>Is it expensive?
>> >>
>> >>Its pretty expensive for the package, 199$ or something like that. I
think
>> >>Xedit would be a better buy-50$ and its 99% compatible with the
n264/364
> >
> >Bah, I expected Unisyn to be expensive, but not THAT expensive.
> >
> >Does Xedit accept multisamples above #340 and parallell/serial sub
effect
> >placements without converting/manipulating? If it does, then it's 100%
> >compatible with the Nx64 (except for RAM sound card handling).
> >
> >If not, I guess it should be easy for the Xedit author to include Nx64
> >support, since it's so close to the X3.
Allright,
I know my way around the N264 fairly good now thanks to laboring over the
manual, talking to the keyboard tech at my local Korg dealer, and all the
valuable info from the N-list.
I'm ready to advance to using my computer as a sequencer.
The following are a few questions I have so I can get started:
What type of hardware, such as sound card, midi hookup, etc., do I need to
install in the computer?
How much memory do I need, to work with a typical song?
What type of software should I get and where do I find It?
Will I be able to record the program and combi voices with thier original
settings?
I have a Dell 486/66 computer with 2.5 gigs of hard drive and 16 megs of ram.
A few further comments.... sorry it's a few days late.
A lot of the N5's programs are variations on GM, to take into account GS
and XG soundsets. These are sometimes rather subtle, the number of
usable programs is not really as large as it may seem.
This extra compatibility with GS and XG may be a plus for the N5 for some
people. But for others, the 200 RAM programs on the N364 may be more
useful. And the number of total programs on the N3 (536) is substantial
after all.
Then don't forget that extra sounds are easily loaded from disk on the
N364, as opposed to having to hook up your computer to load stuff into the
N5. No, there's no sequencer on the N5, so no disk drive.
Also on the N364's favour may be the RPPR part of the sequencer. Even if
you use a computer sequencer, these can give you instant starting points,
and "quick starts", which we all need now and then.
Some extra stuff, if you want to wade through it.....
> > The N5 has 12 MB sample ROM, the N364 has 8 MB.
The extra 4 meg is, I believe, mainly made up of sound effects and extra
stuff for GS and XG. For example, there are no additional grand piano
samples.
oops, I nearly forgot, the N1 has an extra 2 mB of very nice piano, so
it has 14 mB in total.
> > The keyboard quality is more or less the same.
Yes, they are both light-ish keyboards of reasonable quality, and both
have aftertouch.
> > The N5 has one more effect than the N364: resonance. This is very useful
> > with analog sounds. Many of us N364 owners would like to have this
effect,
> > eventhough it can be simulated by using an overdrive parameter.
As the resonant effect takes up one of the two available effects, and
doesn't work within a program the way a resonant filter usually does, I
believe it is a little limited, unfortunately.
> > The N5 has portamento and 4 useful assignable knobs on the front panel,
and
> > a graphical display (which is much better than the N364 traditional
> > character display).
Yes.
> > There's no big point for us N264/N364 users to upgrade to an N1/N5
though.
Probably not, unless GS/XG is important, or an 88-note keyboard (N1),
or, or....
Although I'm an avid computer sequencer user, I admit to a liking for
RPPR, as fiddly as it is.
All the best.....
jg.
At 07:37 1998-04-29 -0400, David Wright wrote:
> >I have a Dell 486/66 computer with 2.5 gigs of hard drive and 16 megs of ram.
> >
> >What type of hardware, such as sound card, midi hookup, etc., do I need to
> >install in the computer? How much memory do I need, to work with a typical
> >song? What type of software should I get and where do I find It? Will I be
> >able to record the program and combi voices with thier original settings?
It all depends on what you want to do.
If you're only going to record/play MIDI music, you won't have to expand
your computer much (MIDI sequencers aren't very resource hungry). But if
you're going to record/play both MIDI and audio, you will probably need a
faster CPU and a fast hard drive. The faster your system, the more audio
channels can it handle.
Are you using windows 3.1 or 95 or something else? If you're running win95,
then get atleast 16 more MB of RAM. Not that you absolutely need it, but
you'll like the speed increase.
You'll need a MIDI interface of some kind. Many sound cards have built-in
MIDI interfaces (such as the Sound Blaster series). You could buy a
separate interface too, but they're often expensive.
If you're going to record/play audio, you must have a sound card. If you
want pro quality low-noise audio, you'll have to get an expensive card
(such as the Audio Media III), but if you allow a bit of noise a Sound
Blaster or any other low-cost card will be enough.
Software... well, if you want to record/play both MIDI and audio, you'll
need an audio-capable MIDI sequencer such as Cakewalk Pro Audio, Cubase
VST, Logic Audio, etc etc. These are professional sequencers. There are
also cheaper "begginer" versions of some of them. For instance, the
cheap/beginner version of Cubase is Cubasis Audio. This particular program
comes free (including manual) with the Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold sound card.
If you want to record program/combis from your Nx64 in their "original
sound" (i.e. in prog or combi more respectively), you can record them as
audio samples. I always do.
At 15:54 1998-04-14 +0200, Joakim Lundberg wrote:
> >Does anyone know if cakewalk 7 is out?
There seem to be some kind of unofficial release candidate versions of
Cakewalk 7. I guess they won't release it officially until they're done
beta testing. This should be soon...
I just got my N364, and am having trouble figuring out how to add combination sounds to the sequencer... the manual doesn't address it, but it also doesn't say you can't.... also, does anyone know if a training video is available from Korg on this model? The reference manual isn't in Japanese, but it's not overly user-friendly, either....
At 06:01 PM 4/30/98 +0200, you wrote:
> >At 07:37 1998-04-29 -0400, David Wright wrote:
> >
>> >>I have a Dell 486/66 computer with 2.5 gigs of hard drive and 16 megs of ram.
>> >>
>> >>What type of hardware, such as sound card, midi hookup, etc., do I need to
>> >>install in the computer? How much memory do I need, to work with a typical
>> >>song? What type of software should I get and where do I find It? Will I be
>> >>able to record the program and combi voices with thier original settings?
> >
> >It all depends on what you want to do.
> >
> >If you're only going to record/play MIDI music, you won't have to expand
> >your computer much (MIDI sequencers aren't very resource hungry). But if
> >you're going to record/play both MIDI and audio, you will probably need a
> >faster CPU and a fast hard drive. The faster your system, the more audio
> >channels can it handle.
> >
> >Are you using windows 3.1 or 95 or something else? If you're running win95,
> >then get atleast 16 more MB of RAM. Not that you absolutely need it, but
> >you'll like the speed increase.
> >
> >You'll need a MIDI interface of some kind. Many sound cards have built-in
> >MIDI interfaces (such as the Sound Blaster series). You could buy a
> >separate interface too, but they're often expensive.
> >
> >If you're going to record/play audio, you must have a sound card. If you
> >want pro quality low-noise audio, you'll have to get an expensive card
> >(such as the Audio Media III), but if you allow a bit of noise a Sound
> >Blaster or any other low-cost card will be enough.
> >
> >Software... well, if you want to record/play both MIDI and audio, you'll
> >need an audio-capable MIDI sequencer such as Cakewalk Pro Audio, Cubase
> >VST, Logic Audio, etc etc. These are professional sequencers. There are
> >also cheaper "begginer" versions of some of them. For instance, the
> >cheap/beginner version of Cubase is Cubasis Audio. This particular program
> >comes free (including manual) with the Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold sound card.
> >
> >If you want to record program/combis from your Nx64 in their "original
> >sound" (i.e. in prog or combi more respectively), you can record them as
> >audio samples. I always do.
> >
> >I do have windows 95 and a sound blaster sound card, which is about 3 years
old. I'm mainly interested in recording audio. I would also like to record
vocals and acoustic instruments via mics. Will I be able to do this thru a
sound card or do I need to record it on another platform, then rout it to
the PC?
I can't decide if I should make the investment to upgrade my PC's ram, CPU,
and sound card or go for a stand alone multi track hard disk recorder such
as the Fostex DMT-8vl. What kind of price range differences would I be
looking at? What speed would my PC need to be to handle goals I mentioned?
is there any software to load sounds into the n5? if so, where could i get the software/patches? thanks.
-gmoney
At 22:22 1998-04-30 -0500, G. S. wrote:
> >is there any software to load sounds into the n5? if so, where could i
> >get the software/patches? thanks.
> >-gmoney
Check KORG USA's page (www.korg.com). I believe they sell the needed cable
and drivers for the N5 on their site, but I'm not certain....
I hope it's ok with you other people on the list that we have this
off-topic discussion?
> >I do have windows 95 and a sound blaster sound card, which is about 3 years
> >old. I'm mainly interested in recording audio. I would also like to record
> >vocals and acoustic instruments via mics. Will I be able to do this thru a
> >sound card or do I need to record it on another platform, then rout it to
> >the PC?
> > I can't decide if I should make the investment to upgrade my PC's ram, CPU,
> >and sound card or go for a stand alone multi track hard disk recorder such
> >as the Fostex DMT-8vl. What kind of price range differences would I be
> >looking at? What speed would my PC need to be to handle goals I mentioned?
Well, I know nothing about non-computer audio workstations, so I can't
advise you in that topic. A guess is that the non-computer stuff gets a lot
more expensive and less flexible....
If you're going to record audio, I definately advise you to get rid of your
old Sound Blaster card. If you're ONLY going to record audio, then get an
Audio Media III card or something like it (with several inputs and
outputs). That's a professional quality sound card.
If you're going to record several audio sources at the same time, you'll
need a fast hard drive (because of the way stereo wav files are written to
disk in real-time). If you're going to apply real-time effects to your
audio recordings during playback (with a program supporting add-on effects,
such as Cakewalk Pro Audio), you'll definately need a faster CPU. And as
said before, you can never have too much RAM. RAM is cheap nowadays, and so
is an ordinary Pentium CPU. First check if your mother board supports a
Pentium. If not, you'll have to buy a new mother board.
At 18:51 1998-04-30 -0400, Chuck Cutler wrote:
> >I just got my N364, and am having trouble figuring out how to add
> >combination sounds to the sequencer... the manual doesn't address it,
> >but it also doesn't say you can't....
This is a very common problem that will have to be addressed in the FAQ
that's currently under construction.
Anyway, the manual does address using combis in the sequencer. Take a look
at page 153 in the (English) Reference Guide.
There it's explained how you can copy a combination to either tracks 1
through 8 or 9 through 16. Oh, and something thing to notice: if you copy a
combination that uses less than 8 timbres, it will still copy 8 timbres,
i.e. including the "program off" timbres.
Now, when you've copied your combination to the sequencer, another problem
will arise. If you decide to copy the effect settings from the original
combination to the sequencer song, you'll overwrite the song's effect
settings. There are no more than two effect processors as a total....
Choose your song's effect settings wisely.
> >also, does anyone know if a training video is available from Korg on this
> >model? The reference manual isn't in Japanese, but it's not overly
user->friendly, either....
Take a look at www.korg.com. They have a page where they sell all kinds of
accessories, manuals, extra keys and stuff. It might be that they have
videos, but I don't know. You could also ask KORG USA's support:
*@*.com
I agree the manuals can be cumbersome.
Is there any way to adjust the relative volume of a particular track in a song to bring out a certain instrument without affecting the rest of the tracks??
Thanks for the reply. I'm assuming that if you copy a combi to 8 different tracks that you can then record a sequence to all of those tracks at once to keep that sound??
*********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE ***********
On 5/1/98, at 9:30 AM, Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET> wrote:
> >
> >At 18:51 1998-04-30 -0400, Chuck Cutler wrote:
> >
>> >>I just got my N364, and am having trouble figuring out how to add
>> >>combination sounds to the sequencer... the manual doesn't address it,
>> >>but it also doesn't say you can't....
> >
> >This is a very common problem that will have to be addressed in the FAQ
> >that's currently under construction.
> >
> >Anyway, the manual does address using combis in the sequencer. Take a look
> >at page 153 in the (English) Reference Guide.
> >
> >There it's explained how you can copy a combination to either tracks 1
> >through 8 or 9 through 16. Oh, and something thing to notice: if you copy a
> >combination that uses less than 8 timbres, it will still copy 8 timbres,
> >i.e. including the "program off" timbres.
> >
> >Now, when you've copied your combination to the sequencer, another problem
> >will arise. If you decide to copy the effect settings from the original
> >combination to the sequencer song, you'll overwrite the song's effect
> >settings. There are no more than two effect processors as a total....
> >Choose your song's effect settings wisely.
> >
>> >>also, does anyone know if a training video is available from Korg on this
>> >>model? The reference manual isn't in Japanese, but it's not overly
> >user->friendly, either....
> >
> >Take a look at www.korg.com. They have a page where they sell all kinds of
> >accessories, manuals, extra keys and stuff. It might be that they have
> >videos, but I don't know. You could also ask KORG USA's support:
> >*@*.com
> >
> >I agree the manuals can be cumbersome.
*********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE ***********
At 20:20 1998-05-01 -0400, Chuck Cutler wrote:
> >Is there any way to adjust the relative volume of a particular track in
> >a song to bring out a certain instrument without affecting the rest of
> >thetracks??
Yes!
Use MIDI controller 11 - expression! Take a look at page 126 in the
Reference Guide for more info on what expression does.
At 20:22 1998-05-01 -0400, Chuck Cutler wrote:
> >Thanks for the reply. I'm assuming that if you copy a combi to
> >8 different tracks that you can then record a sequence to all of
> >those tracks at once to keep that sound??
Yes! Play a note on any of the tracks occupied by the combi, and all combi
timbres will sound! This is thanks to the occupied tracks being set to the
same midi channel.
And another thing:
If you've copied a combi with less than 8 timbres to the sequencer, you
might want to use the tracks that the combi doesn't use. Then you'll have
to change the midi channel for each of the unused tracks to something else
than the combi uses. When in sequencer mode (not sequencer edit mode)
simply press the third of the eight buttons to the right of the volume
slider, and then edit channel number.
Cheers!
Hello,
i'm just wondering. which of the two continous Expression pedals
that are mentioned in the N264 manual should i get? are there any
cheaper "generic no-name" brands that are compatible and just as good
for a cheaper price?
any input would be appreciated.
thanks
-kaliss
Korg's EXP-2 works. I don't know about "generic" ones.
jg.
> > i'm just wondering. which of the two continous Expression pedals
Has the phones output got less quality and/or volume than the regular
outputs 1 & 2?
Up until now, I've been feeding outputs 1 & 2 through my sound card, which
makes it possible to record audio easily. Tonight I suddenly had an idea I
should have had a long time ago: to feed outputs 1 & 2 directly to the
mixer, and the phones output to the sound card.
Now I can play my N364 even when the computer isn't on, and won't have to
switch cables if I want to record anything through the sound card.
I don't want to risk bad audio recording quality caused by the N364 phone
output though.....
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE>
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
Date: Sunday, May 03, 1998 10:33 PM
Subject: Phones output
> >Has the phones output got less quality and/or volume than the regular
> >outputs 1 & 2?
> >
> >Up until now, I've been feeding outputs 1 & 2 through my sound card, which
> >makes it possible to record audio easily. Tonight I suddenly had an idea I
> >should have had a long time ago: to feed outputs 1 & 2 directly to the
> >mixer, and the phones output to the sound card.
> >
> >Now I can play my N364 even when the computer isn't on, and won't have to
> >switch cables if I want to record anything through the sound card.
> >
> >I don't want to risk bad audio recording quality caused by the N364 phone
> >output though.....
I think that the headphones are exactly the same as outputs one and two. But
the manual only states that the the sound is the same (e.g. no 3 and 4
available through the headphones). I have tried back and forth and to my
ears I can't notice any difference. But there may be an impedance difference
which could affect loading levels. But at -10/+4 levels I doubt that this
would be noticeable.
I was wondering why you have to do it that way anyway. I feed outputs 1 and
2 to my mixer's chan 1 and 2 panning left and right respectively. The master
output goes to my soundcard. I use the mixers monitor output to listen to my
master mix or the mix through the soundcard by using the "tape/master mix"
push button.
Perhaps your mixer does not provide this function. I'm using a small Spirit
Folio Notepad 6 channel mixer.
Also,
I've been contemplating the merits of using outputs 3 and 4 but can't really
see any compelling reason that I should do so. If I'm missing something let
me know. But I think parallel effects defaults to 1 and 2 by being mixed
internally. Breaking it out may give more direct control over wet/dry but I
can't think of another reason. Is it possible to route keyboard split(s) to
1 and 2 or 3 and 4. If I could do that, then I can see some use for it.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE>
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
Date: Sunday, May 03, 1998 10:33 PM
Subject: Phones output
> >Has the phones output got less quality and/or volume than the regular
> >outputs 1 & 2?
> >
> >Up until now, I've been feeding outputs 1 & 2 through my sound card, which
> >makes it possible to record audio easily. Tonight I suddenly had an idea I
> >should have had a long time ago: to feed outputs 1 & 2 directly to the
> >mixer, and the phones output to the sound card.
> >
> >Now I can play my N364 even when the computer isn't on, and won't have to
> >switch cables if I want to record anything through the sound card.
> >
> >I don't want to risk bad audio recording quality caused by the N364 phone
> >output though.....
hello. You can order korg foot pedals from Skip's Music in Sacramento,
California.
-----Original Message-----
From: Schulz, John <John.*@*.COM>
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: Expression Pedals
> >It is my understanding that only Korg pedals will work with the N364.
> >There seems to be a different impedance range for Korg pedals than other
> >manufacturers. I don't know why. I myself have tried several Roland
> >pedals and a generic one (I forget who made it). None of them worked.
> >They all only allowed me to vary the volume/expression parameter to
> >about 1/3 of full scale.
> >
> >This is too bad because although the Korg pedals look like high quality
> >pedals (I've never acutally seen one), they are also very expensive. I
> >don't really think they want to sell them very badly. Or maybe they
> >think they have us over a barrel because no one else makes one that
> >works.
> >
> >Anyway, so far my N364 remains peddal-less too. If anyone has more info
> >on where to get one, I would love to read about it.
> >
> >John
It is my understanding that only Korg pedals will work with the N364.
There seems to be a different impedance range for Korg pedals than other
manufacturers. I don't know why. I myself have tried several Roland
pedals and a generic one (I forget who made it). None of them worked.
They all only allowed me to vary the volume/expression parameter to
about 1/3 of full scale.
This is too bad because although the Korg pedals look like high quality
pedals (I've never acutally seen one), they are also very expensive. I
don't really think they want to sell them very badly. Or maybe they
think they have us over a barrel because no one else makes one that
works.
Anyway, so far my N364 remains peddal-less too. If anyone has more info
on where to get one, I would love to read about it.
John
Yes, you can send it a midi control message number 7 on the channel of the
track you want to affect. Or you can do it manually from the keyboard by
changing the volume parameter on the track.
I don't know which of the two to buy since I don't actually own one, but I
don't advise buying a non-Korg pedal. I tried a Zoom expression pedal in the
jack, and it works, but I think the range is too wide; it's very impractical
to use. Also, nobody tells you how their expression pedals are configured, so
unless you buy their brand you could end up with one that doesn't work.
It's certainly possible to route splits to 1-2 and 3-4. Just use one of the
"sub" output algorithms (in the fx processor section, page 7E, I think) and
use the C-D sends for the sounds you want to go to 3 and 4.
I use 3 and 4 a lot because I sequence things and then dump them to analog 8
track. Since I don't have a sync box (or a big enough board) I have to lay
all the sequenced parts to tape, but by using 3 and 4 I can put down up to 4
separate tracks from the Korg rather than just two.
Personally, I could have done with as many outputs as they wanted to give me.
At 23:03 1998-04-30 +1000, J+G Grant wrote:
> >oops, I nearly forgot, the N1 has an extra 2 mB of very nice piano, so
> >it has 14 mB in total.
Slight correction: it has 6 MB extra samples, so the total is 18 MB. The
other 4 MB are distributed on a few extra multisamples which are probably
of very high quality? Haven't even seen the N1, so I don't know...
> >As the resonant effect takes up one of the two available effects, and
> >doesn't work within a program the way a resonant filter usually does, I
> >believe it is a little limited, unfortunately.
I agree. The resonance should be "built in" with the filters, and not be an
effect.
KORG should have done this when they released the N264/N364, but I guess
they skipped it because of incompatibility with the X3 and added developing
cost. But dang, I would have loved it. :)
Peter,
Yes, 1/3 of the current volume setting. Actually, if I remember this
right, the way I tested the pedals was to do a pedal calibration. The
little bar graph only went about 1/3 of the way toward full scale.
Could you tell me how you built your footswitch? I might try my hand at
that myself. The expression pedal is another story though. We would have
to figure out the range of the potentiometer needed and whether it uses
the center tap and one side or the center tap and two sides. Some of the
expression pedals I've seen have three conductors on the 1/4" plug that
goes into the keyboard. I tried to buzz one out once but didn't really
spend enough time on it to figure it out. I guess I should have taken
better notes.
I tried to ask Korg Support about the details of N364 expression pedal
input but they couldn't (or wouldn't) really help me in that area.
Has anyone on this list seen a technical repair manual for the Korg
N364?
John
Peter wrote:
> > I assume when you say only 1/3 of full scale, it was 1/3 of wherever
the
> > volume control was set? Or does the expression pedal override the
volume
> > control? (Sorry, don't know about these things).
> >
> > I'm interested because I would like to make one rather than buying it.
I
> > built a foot switch for the Korg and that worked successfully. It only
cost
> > me around $15.
Hi everyone!
I have had a problem with my 364 when using effect called "Rotary speaker" in sequencer mode. In program
mode I use an expression pedal (I use Korg EXP-2) to switch the effect on and off and it works just fine
(and sounds great, too). But, for some reason, it doesn´t work in sequencer mode. Does anybody know a solution for this.
Thanks
Erkki Erkkilä
Building a footswitch is very easy. It is simply a momentary on switch.
Parts you will need:
1. A solid plastic box, preferably with a sloping front on which to mount
the switch
2. A momentary on or momentary off switch. A switch designed for heavy
use or designed as a footswitch is what's required here. Momentary off means
that the switch is off only when pressed. Once the button is released it
returns to being on.
3. Two core wire to connect the footswitch to the N364.
4. 1/4" mono jack to plug into the N364.
Connect the switch to the two wires at one end, and to the mono jack at the
other. Plug in and test. You may have to change the switch polarity in the
global parameters.
Peter
> > Could you tell me how you built your footswitch? I might try my hand at
> > that myself. The expression pedal is another story though. We would have
> > to figure out the range of the potentiometer needed and whether it uses
> > the center tap and one side or the center tap and two sides. Some of the
> > expression pedals I've seen have three conductors on the 1/4" plug that
> > goes into the keyboard. I tried to buzz one out once but didn't really
> > spend enough time on it to figure it out. I guess I should have taken
> > better notes.
> >
> > I tried to ask Korg Support about the details of N364 expression pedal
> > input but they couldn't (or wouldn't) really help me in that area.
> >
> > Has anyone on this list seen a technical repair manual for the Korg
> > N364?
> >
> > John
> >
> > Peter wrote:
>> > > I assume when you say only 1/3 of full scale, it was 1/3 of wherever
> > the
>> > > volume control was set? Or does the expression pedal override the
> > volume
>> > > control? (Sorry, don't know about these things).
>> > >
>> > > I'm interested because I would like to make one rather than buying it.
> > I
>> > > built a foot switch for the Korg and that worked successfully. It only
> > cost
>> > > me around $15.
i cant seem to get the resonance 'effect' to work on the n5? it adds the resonance to it, but i just cant realtime adjust the amount of reso. witht he knobs? can someone explain this a little more to me how this works please? thanks!
- gmoney
At 22:29 1998-05-05 -0500, G. S. wrote:
> >i cant seem to get the resonance 'effect' to work on the n5? it adds the
> >resonance to it, but i just cant realtime adjust the amount of reso. witht he
> >knobs? can someone explain this a little more to me how this works please?
> >thanks!
I don't have an N5, but I guess the effects work the same as for the Nx64,
i.e. that you can control the intensity. Assign one of the knobs to the
intensity of the effect processor that's running the resonance effect.
At 22:39 1998-05-05 +0300, Erkki Erkkil wrote:
> >I have had a problem with my 364 when using effect called "Rotary speaker"
> >in sequencer mode. In program mode I use an expression pedal (I use Korg
> >EXP-2) to switch the effect on and off and it works just fine (and sounds
great,
> >too). But, for some reason, it doesn´t work in sequencer mode. Does
anybody know
> >a solution for this.
Are you controlling effect intensity with the pedal? If so, copy the effect
settings of the particular organ program you're using to the sequencer
song, and you should still be able to control the intensity with the pedal.
The only thing you can't use in sequencer mode is the value slider.
Check the source setting of seq/prog edit mode page 7A or 7C, one page to
the right.
Just thought I'd announce my newly redesigned N-related homepage to the
public (although some of you have probably already visited it):
http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/
I've put my quick Nx64 SysEx reference text there, together with my new &
complete Cakewalk instrument definitions + dump request macros. These
should also be found on the public N-series ftp site.
My latest made-with-N364 song in mp3 format (can't spread it as a SNG + PCG
because I've audio-recorded one of the tracks and don't use N364 drums) can
also be found there....
I'll try to add N-series info & stuff to my page continuously.
Comments & suggestions are welcome!
At 23:17 1998-05-03 -0500, Francis Graves wrote:
> >I think that the headphones are exactly the same as outputs one and two. But
> >the manual only states that the the sound is the same (e.g. no 3 and 4
> >available through the headphones). I have tried back and forth and to my
> >ears I can't notice any difference. But there may be an impedance difference
> >which could affect loading levels. But at -10/+4 levels I doubt that this
> >would be noticeable.
I can hear a volume difference, and when I checked with Sound Forge, I
found that it's a significant volume difference between the regular outputs
and the phones output. In my test, the phones output has an average RMS of
-21 dB while outputs 1 & 2 has an average -16 dB RMS.
Could this perhaps be a result of a bad audio cable from the phones output
to my sound card? Shouldn't there be a lot of noise then? There isn't.
I can remedy this situation by turning the master volume of my N364 to max,
which will raise the phones output to a sufficient level, and then lower
the input level on my mixer (which I shove output 1 & 2 into), but somehow
I feel that the internal DAC of the N364 that sends to the phones output is
a cheap one? Perhaps outputs 1 & 2 and the phones output use the same
DACs?? Shouldn't be a volume difference then....
> >I was wondering why you have to do it that way anyway. I feed outputs 1 and
> >2 to my mixer's chan 1 and 2 panning left and right respectively. The master
> >output goes to my soundcard. I use the mixers monitor output to listen to my
> >master mix or the mix through the soundcard by using the "tape/master mix"
> >push button.
> >
> >Perhaps your mixer does not provide this function. I'm using a small Spirit
> >Folio Notepad 6 channel mixer.
My mixer is extremely feature-less, and only provides a master output (no
returns, monitor outputs etc). It's cheap and virtually noise-less, but now
I see I could use a monitor output. Dang. :)
Hello, in the event list in cakewalk 5.0, there's no place to put a bank
select message. There is for patch change, aftertouch, etc...everything
except bank select. Therefore I can't get it to transmit a bank select
message, which is very fustrating. Any ideas??
At 22:20 1998-04-28 -0400, Steve Wallis wrote:
>> >>Does Xedit accept multisamples above #340 and parallell/serial sub effect
>> >>placements without converting/manipulating? If it does, then it's 100%
>> >>compatible with the Nx64 (except for RAM sound card handling).
> >
> >It doesnt but thats not too big a problem(at least for me).
It is for me... hmm..
> >I did write the coder of Xedit a couple months back and asked him if he
> >had any plans to make it more compatible with the n364, he said he had
> >no plans for that whatsoever. Oh well, cant win em all I guess.
I guess he didn't want to change the name to NXedit? Hehe. Else it should
be very easy to add N364 support.
At 21:57 1998-04-28 -0700, Hasnat M wrote:
> >Amature input into all these UNISYS stuff........ what exactly does it
> >do for N364? What can u do with it?
I've had the chance to try UniSyn now. It can edit
program/combi/effect/global settings graphically (though the user interface
is a bit unpleasant). It uses program B92 to B99 for temporary edit
buffers, which I didn't find out until after some of my new sounds had been
overwritten. Grrrr.. ;)
Anyway, MOTU (Mark of the Unicorn) have released a KORG synth definition
update which is supposed to include the N264/N364, but this is bullshit. I
downloaded the new drivers, but they were the same as the old ones, except
for a date-change.
This means that I had to use the X3 definitions.... Bah!
Anyway, UniSyn is old, expensive and still has no Nx64 support...
I hope some of the coders on this list can do a parameter editor soon. It's
possible to use other generic SysEx programs as librarians for the Nx64,
but I haven't tried it yet. I'll have a go at SysEx Solution '97 for
windows soon, and see if it is useful.
At 20:11 1998-05-07 -0400, Mike Broer wrote:
> >Hello, in the event list in cakewalk 5.0, there's no place to put a bank
> >select message. There is for patch change, aftertouch, etc...everything
> >except bank select. Therefore I can't get it to transmit a bank select
> >message, which is very fustrating. Any ideas??
A Cakewalk patch change should include both a bank change and a program
change in the same event?
If you only want a bank change, use midi controllers 0 (Bank Select MSB)
and 32 (Bank Select LSB). Check page 4 in the N264/N364 Reference Guide to
see which values to set for each bank.
You have to send your control information on channel 1 (or whatever the global
receive channel is sent to). It is irrelevant what channel the actual
intstrument is set to; since the effects themselves are global, any control
information (footswitch, slider, etc) must be sent on the global, which
defaults to channel 1.
There's no dedicated MIDI bank select message like there are aftertouch or
note messages. Bank selection is done using MIDI controllers, specifically 0
and 32. I think there'll be an FAQ up pretty soon with all this stuff on it.
Ken,
I saw your web page the other day; it looks real nice!
Hi,
Does anybody have experience with the Korg G4 rotary speaker simulator ?
Is it much better than the standard rotary speaker effect of the N264 ?
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
I would imagine phones output are going to be at a lower level than the regular
output. This is typically the case with electronic equipment. Unfortunately the
korg specs have no description of output or impedance levels for any of the
outputs.
Peter
> > At 23:17 1998-05-03 -0500, Francis Graves wrote:
> >
>> > >I think that the headphones are exactly the same as outputs one and two. But
>> > >the manual only states that the the sound is the same (e.g. no 3 and 4
>> > >available through the headphones). I have tried back and forth and to my
>> > >ears I can't notice any difference. But there may be an impedance difference
>> > >which could affect loading levels. But at -10/+4 levels I doubt that this
>> > >would be noticeable.
> >
> > I can hear a volume difference, and when I checked with Sound Forge, I
> > found that it's a significant volume difference between the regular outputs
> > and the phones output. In my test, the phones output has an average RMS of
> > -21 dB while outputs 1 & 2 has an average -16 dB RMS.
> >
> > Could this perhaps be a result of a bad audio cable from the phones output
> > to my sound card? Shouldn't there be a lot of noise then? There isn't.
I attached a potentiometer to the expression pedal output over the
weekend. I can successfully modify the volume over the entire range, or
at least to the range set by the master volume slider.
I used a 120k log potentiometer connected as a variable resistor to the
1/4" mono jack plugged into the N364.
Under the global parameters there is a menu item which enables the
expression pedal to be calibrated by the N364 by rotating it through its
whole range.
The only issue now is to build a cheap expression pedal.
Peter
> > Does anybody have experience with the Korg G4 rotary speaker simulator ?
> > Is it much better than the standard rotary speaker effect of the N264 ?
imho, yes, the G4 is better. The G4 is basically the same as the Trinity
size 4 rotary speaker, and is to my ears, very close to the real thing.
jg..
Hi everybody !
This message is for those N364/264 users who happen to own Boss VT-1 voice
transformer and who are techno-dance music oriented. I've found this sound,
and want you guys to tell me what you think about it.
O'Key, here's the deal: patch your N mono out into VT-1 in. On N, select
factory preset B 06 (FatRezBass). On VT-1: Octave fader: -10, Formant fader:
+10, Mix Balance: +10 (i.e. 100% wet signal), Rverb: set it to 2-3 not
higher.
Now, play some patterns in the lower half of the keyboard AND try moving
FORMANT fader down and then up and then down etc.
I'm not on the list, so here's my e-mail, I would greatly appreciate your
feedback:
*@*.columbia.edu
Cheers,
S-Machine
Peter,
A log potentiometer! Of course a log potentiometer! Why didn't I think
of that?
.
.
.
What's a log potentiometer?
In my business we only deal with linear pots so I don't know much about
log pots. Where can I get a 120K log pot? Are there better brands and
worse ones? Maybe ones that can take a mechanical beating?
I thought that the expression pedal input was a three conductor input.
Hmmm. Can't remember where I got that idea. Well anyway, a log pot you
say, huh? I can't wait to try it.
John
Peter Writes:
> > I attached a potentiometer to the expression pedal output over the
> > weekend. I can successfully modify the volume over the entire range,
or
> > at least to the range set by the master volume slider.
> >
> > I used a 120k log potentiometer connected as a variable resistor to
the
> > 1/4" mono jack plugged into the N364.
> >
> > Under the global parameters there is a menu item which enables the
> > expression pedal to be calibrated by the N364 by rotating it through
its
> > whole range.
> >
> > The only issue now is to build a cheap expression pedal.
A log pot is also called an audio pot; it's simply logarithmic instead of
linear in slope.
I also thought the expression pedal input was a three-conductor. I have a
pedal made by zoom that uses a TRS cable (3 conductor) to plug in. It works,
even though the range isn't quite right. But if you say it works, I believe
you.
Of course, you can also plug a footswitch into that jack (which is what I do),
which would be the same scenario as a pot except that it's either fully on or
fully off. I wonder why the three conductor thing? Maybe it's just Zoom. I
don't know.
> > A log pot is also called an audio pot; it's simply logarithmic instead of
> > linear in slope.
> >
I only tried a logarithmic potentiometer. Log pots are usually used for volume,
and of course it works better wired one way rather than the reverse.
> > I also thought the expression pedal input was a three-conductor. I have a
> > pedal made by zoom that uses a TRS cable (3 conductor) to plug in. It works,
> > even though the range isn't quite right. But if you say it works, I believe
> > you.
The socket is only a mono socket. Therefore it uses two wires. I could detect no
voltage on the second pin of a stereo plug in this socket.
> > Of course, you can also plug a footswitch into that jack (which is what I do),
> > which would be the same scenario as a pot except that it's either fully on or
> > fully off. I wonder why the three conductor thing? Maybe it's just Zoom. I
> > don't know.
Yep, a footswitch will work also. You just have to have the right setting in the
global parameters.
I loaded a group of pattern sets (.pst) and coordinating songs (.sng) files
on my N264 and that seemed to change all my settings for the first song
(s0). I had not yet recorded any thing. Also, I had cleared the sequencer
memory and reloaded these files. It does the same thing. Some of the
settings, it changed, were: setting all tracks to program off, all midi
channels to 01G.
The other song locations S1- S9 are okay.
Different Matter:
When recording a rythm track, e.g. pattern sets on track 10, why does the
record mode have to be switched to overdub and multi record?
At 12:05 1998-05-11 +1000, Peter Lazarus wrote:
> >I would imagine phones output are going to be at a lower level than the
regular
> >output. This is typically the case with electronic equipment.
Unfortunately the
> >korg specs have no description of output or impedance levels for any of the
> >outputs.
But since the phones output has a lower volume, I guess this means it has
its own separate DAC? If so, I guess that DAC is low quality...
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > At 12:05 1998-05-11 +1000, Peter Lazarus wrote:
> >
>> > >I would imagine phones output are going to be at a lower level than the
> > regular
>> > >output. This is typically the case with electronic equipment.
> > Unfortunately the
>> > >korg specs have no description of output or impedance levels for any of the
>> > >outputs.
> >
> > But since the phones output has a lower volume, I guess this means it has
> > its own separate DAC? If so, I guess that DAC is low quality...
> >
Usually the phones output is taken directly from the main output of an amplifier
via some resistors to reduce the output level. whether Korg does this or not I
don't know but this is usually the simplest and cheapest design approach.
Peter
hello ppl,
can somebody help me out.... I downloaded a DANCE.PCG and DANCE.SNG
from somewhere but i lost it. is it possible for someone to mail me
the DANCE.PCG AND THE DANCE.SNG FILES... VERY IMPORTANT.
Thanx.
hasnat mosharraf
At 07:10 1998-05-15 -0700, Hasnat M wrote:
> >can somebody help me out.... I downloaded a DANCE.PCG and DANCE.SNG
>from somewhere but i lost it. is it possible for someone to mail me
> >the DANCE.PCG AND THE DANCE.SNG FILES... VERY IMPORTANT.
I'll mail them to you privatly as a zip file.
Is anybody else interested?
At 10:55 1998-05-14 +1000, Peter Lazarus wrote:
> >Usually the phones output is taken directly from the main output of an
amplifier
> >via some resistors to reduce the output level. whether Korg does this or
not I
> >don't know but this is usually the simplest and cheapest design approach.
That seems perfectly logical. Guess I'll have to open my N364 and rip out
the resistors. :)
I'll ask KORG support about this.
I've put two N264/N364-specific programs on my home page (download section):
http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/
They are:
pcg2txt.exe - an MSDOS .PCG to .txt converter by Greg Babineau
pst1.exe - a Windows .PCG/.PST file manager by Peter Lazarus
pst1.exe is in an early development stage, but you might find it
interesting to check it out. pcg2txt.exe is fully functional, but still beta.
Post your comments/suggestions to this mailing list.
If any of the other programmers on this list are interested in making their
N-specific betas public, then let me know so I can put your program on my
page.
At 15:12 17/05/98 +0200, you wrote:
> >At 07:10 1998-05-15 -0700, Hasnat M wrote:
> >
>> >>can somebody help me out.... I downloaded a DANCE.PCG and DANCE.SNG
> >>from somewhere but i lost it. is it possible for someone to mail me
>> >>the DANCE.PCG AND THE DANCE.SNG FILES... VERY IMPORTANT.
> >
> >I'll mail them to you privatly as a zip file.
> >
> >Is anybody else interested?
> >
I'm interested!
And in other .PCG and songs too.
Thanx :)
Grok
At 19:09 1998-05-18 +0200, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote:
> >I'm interested!
> >
> >And in other .PCG and songs too.
Dance.zip is attached to this mail!
I've got several other PCG and SNG files, but I'm not sure it's legal to
distribute them. Visit my recently update link section of my home page:
http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/links.html
There you'll find a couple of PCG/SNG sites, and the possibility to let
AltaVista find some sites for you.
Deleted: Dance.zip
An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were:
Content-Type: application/zip; name="Dance.zip";
x-mac-type="705A4950"; x-mac-creator="705A4950"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Dance.zip"
Attachments:
Deleted: Dance.zip 289 bytes
Hi all!
Sorry for posting dance.pcg and dance.sng (dance.zip) to the list! Was
supposed to be sent privatly...
Well, now none of you will have to search for these files... :)
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> >
> > At 07:10 1998-05-15 -0700, Hasnat M wrote:
> >
>> > >can somebody help me out.... I downloaded a DANCE.PCG and DANCE.SNG
> > >from somewhere but i lost it. is it possible for someone to mail me
>> > >the DANCE.PCG AND THE DANCE.SNG FILES... VERY IMPORTANT.
> >
> > I'll mail them to you privatly as a zip file.
> >
> > Is anybody else interested?
> >
Hi, I´m also interested in those files, could you please send them to
me??? Thanx. By the way hoe good is cakewalk´s pro studio 7?? Do you
know how much it can cost??
Hi,
Does anybody have a Korg CX3 (or Hammond XB2) ?
I am thinking about buying a CX3, and I am wondering if the
organ sounds of it are much better than the ones of my N264.
And does the CX3 organ sound better with the Korg G4 rotary speaker
emulator ?
Thanks for reading,
Fedde Bouwman
At 23:25 1998-05-18 -0600, Christian Herrejón wrote:
>>> >>>the DANCE.PCG AND THE DANCE.SNG
> >
> >Hi, I´m also interested in those files, could you please send them to
> >me??? Thanx. By the way hoe good is cakewalk´s pro studio 7?? Do you
> >know how much it can cost??
Since I accidentally posted both these files to the list, I guess you
already have them now.. :)
Cakewalk Pro Audio 7 is quite like version 6.x. The most notable difference
is the new graphical user interface which sure looks a heck of a lot nicer
(but is more system resource demanding). It's got better recording
functions (you're able to 'arm' one or more tracks of your choice for
recording - much like Cubase VST). Three new buttons have been put in the
left pane of track view - Solo, Mute and Record. As usual it's possible to
assign a hotkey to every function.
The menues have been reconstructed somewhat, and there are more options.
I sure like it!
> >
> >pcg2txt.exe - an MSDOS .PCG to .txt converter by Greg Babineau
Insteresting program, but I'd find more useful a variation which list only
the Programs and Combi. names to have a fast view of a .PCG file.
> >pst1.exe - a Windows .PCG/.PST file manager by Peter Lazarus
> >
Peter, it seems a very interesting program but i can't tell you. General
Protection Error drives me crazy :((( ARG!!!
posible solutions??
> >pst1.exe is in an early development stage, but you might find it
> >interesting to check it out. pcg2txt.exe is fully functional, but still beta.
> >
Thanks
Grok
At 13:03 1998-05-25 +0200, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote:
>> >>pcg2txt.exe - an MSDOS .PCG to .txt converter by Greg Babineau
> >
> >Insteresting program, but I'd find more useful a variation which list only
> >the Programs and Combi. names to have a fast view of a .PCG file.
Since Greg isn't directly subscribed to this list, I've forwarded this
request to him. Please note that the program is a pre-state to a
librarian/editor of some kind...
Just a tip about what you can use pcg2txt.exe (the MSDOS PCG to txt
converter by Greg Babineau) to do:
If you change a program, you might want to know which combinations this
affects. Simply save the PCG, convert it to text with pcg2txt, read it with
a text reader that supports searching and search for the particular program.
Example: if you've edited program B12, then search for B012 in the
combination section of the text.
You'll probably find one or more combinations that contain this particular
program (I can't check myself since my N364 is off for repairs due to a
non-centering joystick).
I haven't got a CX3 but I used a VOCE module (can't remember which one) in the
studio once and it blew my Korg away. I assume that a dedicated B3 simulator
will probably always sound better for organ sounds than a do-it-all sort of
keyboard. Having drawbars to mess with can't be a bad thing, either.
I think somebody wrote in a while back and said that the leslie module was
much better than the built-in effect on the N. I would assume this is true
for the same reason (because it's a dedicated effect unit and not one of 47
effects built into a workstation). Still, you'll probably have to hear it.
At 11:57 1998-05-27 -0400, SA11075 wrote:
> >I assume that a dedicated B3 simulator will probably always sound better for
> >organ sounds than a do-it-all sort of keyboard.
Ofcourse. A dedicated organ simulator will naturally sound a lot better
than a keyboard. Why else make a dedicated organ simulator?
Some digital sound reproduction organs, such as the Hammond BX-3 (or what
it's called), probably sounds nice, but the price tag is out of this world.
In Sweden it's around $16000. Not a joke.
> >I think somebody wrote in a while back and said that the leslie module was
> >much better than the built-in effect on the N.
The rot.speaker effect of the Nx64 is very crude. It doesn't come close to
a good leslie. But the Nx64 isn't an organ simulator, so.. :)
Hi everyone, this is my first time on the list, but I have a major
dilemma. I've bought my N364, and its a nice machine and all, but I want
to program some really nice sounds for techno,trance, dance and house
music. I'm under the impression I bought the wrong machine for that
music and am now thinking about getting a MC505 too. Can someone out
there help me out and show me or point me to something that'll teach me
how to get some dance-like sounds out of this synth. I've tried the
dance, and techno patch sets, and they're not too bad, but they tend to
lack in the drum kit dept. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks. Feel free to reply directly or via the list, and if you have any
patches you think I'd like, feel free to send them to me, or point me to
them. thanks
-Umang
hi dude,
i have the same problem you have. i'm into making industrial music
and i think the n264 really isnt enough to do the job. korg is a
popular brand but if you look at the artists that use them, they are
people like phil colins , bonnie raitt or something. mostly new age,
or pop artists (exclude the Z1.. of course thats more for dance and
trance). popular brand, but for a different style. i should have
gotten the roland xp50/60/80. roland has more sounds geared towards
what we want but the korg isnt too bad, you just have to play around
with it. i know an industrial band that uses korgs (terminal sect) but
they also use other stuff. to get some cool techno sounds out of the
n264 you gotta drown em in EFFECTS! particularly the phaser and some
chorus and delay, lots of delay. it adds variation to the bland
sounds especially when you are programming fast step notes. if there
is no way you can return your machine, dont fret. be creative with
what you got. you just gotta know how to use the sounds rite. and
definitely go for the 505 groovebox! that is such a cool machine.
it'll take care of the drums and beyond. you could use the n264 as a
controller for it too. i plan on getting one or a QSR (when i get some
$$). anyone here have a QSR? that module sounds sweet! i was playin
the QS8 for hours at the store. its got nice drums and basses and
everything. i think it sounds like roland and korg smashed together
in one synth.
feel free to correct me if i'm wrong or your opinion is different.
have a nice day!
kaliss
---Umang K Patel <ukp+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone, this is my first time on the list, but I have a major
> > dilemma. I've bought my N364, and its a nice machine and all, but I
want
> > to program some really nice sounds for techno,trance, dance and house
> > music. I'm under the impression I bought the wrong machine for that
> > music and am now thinking about getting a MC505 too. Can someone out
> > there help me out and show me or point me to something that'll teach
me
> > how to get some dance-like sounds out of this synth. I've tried the
> > dance, and techno patch sets, and they're not too bad, but they tend
to
> > lack in the drum kit dept. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > Thanks. Feel free to reply directly or via the list, and if you have
any
> > patches you think I'd like, feel free to send them to me, or point
me to
> > them. thanks
> >
> >
> > -Umang
> >
I often dub my drumsounds with sounds from "Cyber Patch" and "Down Low" to
get
Cool sounds. May be worth to try.
--------------------------------------------------------
Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg
182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering
SWEDEN +46-8-*
http://www.skanska.com mailto:joakim.*@*.se
--------------------------------------------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: Kaliss [mailto:*@*.COM]
Sent: den 28 maj 1998 03:58
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Re: programming
hi dude,
i have the same problem you have. i'm into making
industrial music
and i think the n264 really isnt enough to do the job. korg
is a
popular brand but if you look at the artists that use them,
they are
people like phil colins , bonnie raitt or something. mostly
new age,
or pop artists (exclude the Z1.. of course thats more for
dance and
trance). popular brand, but for a different style. i should
have
gotten the roland xp50/60/80. roland has more sounds geared
towards
what we want but the korg isnt too bad, you just have to
play around
with it. i know an industrial band that uses korgs (terminal
sect) but
they also use other stuff. to get some cool techno sounds
out of the
n264 you gotta drown em in EFFECTS! particularly the phaser
and some
chorus and delay, lots of delay. it adds variation to the
bland
sounds especially when you are programming fast step notes.
if there
is no way you can return your machine, dont fret. be
creative with
what you got. you just gotta know how to use the sounds
rite. and
definitely go for the 505 groovebox! that is such a cool
machine.
it'll take care of the drums and beyond. you could use the
n264 as a
controller for it too. i plan on getting one or a QSR (when
i get some
$$). anyone here have a QSR? that module sounds sweet! i
was playin
the QS8 for hours at the store. its got nice drums and
basses and
everything. i think it sounds like roland and korg smashed
together
in one synth.
feel free to correct me if i'm wrong or your opinion is
different.
have a nice day!
kaliss
---Umang K Patel <ukp+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, this is my first time on the list, but I have
a major
> dilemma. I've bought my N364, and its a nice machine and
all, but I
want
> to program some really nice sounds for techno,trance,
dance and house
> music. I'm under the impression I bought the wrong machine
for that
> music and am now thinking about getting a MC505 too. Can
someone out
> there help me out and show me or point me to something
that'll teach
me
> how to get some dance-like sounds out of this synth. I've
tried the
> dance, and techno patch sets, and they're not too bad, but
they tend
to
> lack in the drum kit dept. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
> Thanks. Feel free to reply directly or via the list, and
if you have
any
> patches you think I'd like, feel free to send them to me,
or point
me to
> them. thanks
>
>
> -Umang
>
At 18:28 27-05-98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi everyone, this is my first time on the list, but I have a major
> >dilemma. I've bought my N364, and its a nice machine and all, but I want
> >to program some really nice sounds for techno,trance, dance and house
> >music. I'm under the impression I bought the wrong machine for that
> >music and am now thinking about getting a MC505 too. Can someone out
> >there help me out and show me or point me to something that'll teach me
> >how to get some dance-like sounds out of this synth. I've tried the
> >dance, and techno patch sets, and they're not too bad, but they tend to
> >lack in the drum kit dept. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >Thanks. Feel free to reply directly or via the list, and if you have any
> >patches you think I'd like, feel free to send them to me, or point me to
> >them. thanks
I'm using a MC303 together with my N364 and use the 303 mostly for drums and
filter like stuff... it kicks ass... I dunno if you should buy a MC505 because
it's almost the same as the 303, only with some fancy D-Beam controller and
a bunch more samples (they are both sample based)... I personally find
the MC-505 way to expensive for what it offers more than the MC-303...
For the good old TB-303 sounds the MC-303 and MC-505 are quite bad, I
use rebirth for those sounds...
Dunno if I helped you a little, this is just my opinion...
Greetings,
Hero Idema
ps. we are currently experiencing problems with our mail server,
so it could happen it rejects you mail to the mailing list.
If this happens, just sent it again in a an hour or so...
Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services
*@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl
+31-(0)79-* *@*.nl
At 19:06 26/05/98 +0200, Kenneth wrote:
> >At 13:03 1998-05-25 +0200, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote:
> >
>>> >>>pcg2txt.exe - an MSDOS .PCG to .txt converter by Greg Babineau
>> >>
>> >>Insteresting program, but I'd find more useful a variation which list only
>> >>the Programs and Combi. names to have a fast view of a .PCG file.
> >
> >Since Greg isn't directly subscribed to this list, I've forwarded this
> >request to him. Please note that the program is a pre-state to a
> >librarian/editor of some kind...
> >
Thanx Ken.
And tell him to I like PCG2TXT and I thank his work on it.
My mail was a sugestion to improve the program and make it more interesting.
Thanx again
Grok
Hey ppl,
Can anyone tell me How to set the N pan control to PRG using the
Cakewalk. I know I can pan it A:B using 1-127 and 64 for CNT. but what
do I use for PRG?
Hasnat
At 14:26 1998-05-28 -0700, Hasnat M wrote:
> >Can anyone tell me How to set the N pan control to PRG using the
> >Cakewalk. I know I can pan it A:B using 1-127 and 64 for CNT. but what
> >do I use for PRG?
Can't check right now, but I'm quite sure that it isn't possible to select
PRG via MIDI. It's the same with send C/D. It sucks. ;)
At 12:51 1998-05-28 +0200, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote:
> >And tell him to I like PCG2TXT and I thank his work on it.
He ought to be reading this, since he's directly subscribed now. :)
A new version with the features you want is under way! :D
At 18:28 1998-05-27 -0400, Umang K Patel wrote:
> >dilemma. I've bought my N364, and its a nice machine and all, but I want
> >to program some really nice sounds for techno,trance, dance and house
> >music. I'm under the impression I bought the wrong machine for that
> >music and am now thinking about getting a MC505 too.
The N264/N364 isn't the ideal machine for trance/dance/rave/whatever, but
you can make the best out if the situation by tweaking the effects and
using square/saw/pwm/sinus/pulse/etc waveforms (even if they are samples,
they still sound much the same as what an analog synth would produce).
Phaser, delay, lots of reverb, distortion, overdrive and parametric
equaliser are good effects to use. The overdrive effect can be used for
resonance, and the equaliser to make low/mid/high-pass filter sweeps.
> >tend to lack in the drum kit dept.
That's true. But you can make a decent 808/909 kit by using lots of
distortion for basskick & snares. Don't be afraid to reshuffle the RAM drum
kits, tweaking the pitch and playing length of the drum sounds. You can
easily do 'complex' sounding drums by simply pressing more than one key at
once...
> >Thanks. Feel free to reply directly or via the list, and if you have any
> >patches you think I'd like, feel free to send them to me, or point me to
> >them. thanks
I have a few of my own patches that might interest you, but since I haven't
used many of them in my songs I don't feel like spreading them around yet..
sorry... :(
Just dig down to the heart of your N364 and start grooving around with the
program parameters. After a while you'll probably produce a few patches you
like... :) I'm definately not a sound programming pro, but I'm learning...
> >
> >At 18:28 1998-05-27 -0400, Umang K Patel wrote:
> >
>> >>dilemma. I've bought my N364, and its a nice machine and all, but I want
>> >>to program some really nice sounds for techno,trance, dance and house
>> >>music. I'm under the impression I bought the wrong machine for that
>> >>music and am now thinking about getting a MC505 too.
Hi
I've just joined the list - had my N364 for a year now. I mostly do
DrumNBass and have had similar feelings to yourself (and many others, I
gather) about it. I thought about selling it, but then after
persevering I've found that you can get some up-to-the-minute sounds out
of it. (like most synths - don't be fooled by the presets, it can do a
lot more than that).
Lack of good tekno/house drums seems a common complaint. Then I realised
that the TR808 Kick is made from a sine wave - and the N364 has a
perfectly Ok sine wave. So why not mix a lo lo sine wive in with one of
the basic kicks? You have to do it in combi mode - set up a kit Program
on one channel, a sine wave Program on other. In Program edit, set the
Sine Wave release time to zero and use a short decay. In Combi mode
restrict the sine waves note range to just the kick(s) you require. Set
the volume level accordingly.
It takes a bit if tuning, and don't get too excited, it would NEVER be
confused with a real 808 or 909. But it gets over the 'thinness' of
the on-board kicks and really gives the kick a lot more power.
I suppose you could use the same trick to put the white noise waveform
(or any other, if you wanted to be really experimental) behind a Snare.
Maybe I'll try that next!
It's worth really searching the web for X3 and X5 banks, amidst all the
dull "Oh-My-God-not- another-Piano!" sounds, there's the occasional
sound that really grabs your attention.
Good to see the N364 generating some interest at last.
ZedEx
This is a simple test posting. You can delete it.
Please don't post email in HTML format to this list. Not that heaven will
break apart if you do, but there are two reasons:
1. People without HTML-aware mailers get annoyed.
2. People with HTML-aware mailers get annoyed when it comes to replying.
3. HTML-aware mailers may screw up the N-list logs during download (Eudora
Pro 4 does for sure). This is most likely due to incomplete HTML tags that
some HTML-aware mailers produce.
Thank you!
Greg Babineau has recently finished beta 1.2 of his PCG-to-text converting
program for MSDOS/Windows.
This new version supports output of program & combination names only, and
is great for doing a quick and compact listing of the contents in a PCG.
You can find it on my home page:
http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/
It is in the files section.
At 03:28 10/06/98 +0200, you wrote:
> >Greg Babineau has recently finished beta 1.2 of his PCG-to-text converting
> >program for MSDOS/Windows.
> >This new version supports output of program & combination names only, and
> >is great for doing a quick and compact listing of the contents in a PCG.
> >You can find it on my home page:
> >http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/
> >It is in the files section.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
I'll test if this afternoon.
Thanx Greg (and Ken of couerse :))
I recently asked KORG Support if it's possible to set which effects to use
in sequencer mode via midi SysEx. They told me that they do not specialize
in SysEx, but that they could see no reason why it wouldn't be possible.
I know it's possible to select the effect for both fx processors in prog
and combi mode (don't know the codes though), but how to do it in sequencer
mode?
KORG Support told me to take a closer look at the midi implementation chart
in the back of the Reference Guide.
Can anybody please help with checking this?
Just think how nice it would be if you could select the effects in seq mode
from your external sequencer!
By the way, the list has been awfully silent now for a while. I'm sure
there must be several people here who have questions to ask. Please do!
At 12:29 1998-06-11 +0200, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote:
>> > > Greg Babineau has recently finished beta 1.2 of his PCG-to-text converting
>> > > program for MSDOS/Windows.
>> > >
>> > > This new version supports output of program & combination names only, and
>> > > is great for doing a quick and compact listing of the contents in a PCG.
>> > >
>> > > You can find it on my home page:
>> > >
>> > > http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/
>> > >
>> > > It is in the files section.
> >
> >I'll test if this afternoon.
Did it work as supposed? It should...
Horray!
Today the 100 member barrier was broken here on the N264/N364 mailing list!
At 22:11 18/06/98 +0200, you wrote:
> >At 12:29 1998-06-11 +0200, Rodrigo Borrego Bernab wrote:
> >
>>> >> > Greg Babineau has recently finished beta 1.2 of his PCG-to-text converting
>>> >> > program for MSDOS/Windows.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > This new version supports output of program & combination names only, and
>>> >> > is great for doing a quick and compact listing of the contents in a PCG.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > You can find it on my home page:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/
>>> >> >
>>> >> > It is in the files section.
>> >>
>> >>I'll test if this afternoon.
> >
> >Did it work as supposed? It should...
> >
Yes!, It works. And it's very useful to me the new -n option.
But it doesn't work always. For any reason there are some files which
PCG2TXT can't read (the error message said "Couldn't open the file" or
something like that). And I don't know why 'cos there's no caracter in
common in the files which could be responsable.
Or perhaps is my fault. I don't know.
Anyway it work superb when it can open the file. Thanx Greg.
seeu
Grok
Just to say Hello! to the 100 Members joining this list, and give my
best wishes to Kenneth. Go for the 1000 !!!!
Regards,
Alejandro.
> >From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE>
> >Subject: We've reached 100 members!
> >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> >
> >Horray!
> >
> >Today the 100 member barrier was broken here on the N264/N364 mailing
list!
what a useless piece of mail....
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca [SMTP:*@*.COM]
> > Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 11:38 AM
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Re: We've reached 100 members!
> >
> > Just to say Hello! to the 100 Members joining this list, and give my
> > best wishes to Kenneth. Go for the 1000 !!!!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Alejandro.
> >
>> > >From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE>
>> > >Subject: We've reached 100 members!
>> > >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
>> > >
>> > >Horray!
>> > >
>> > >Today the 100 member barrier was broken here on the N264/N364 mailing
> > list!
At 12:08 PM 6/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >what a useless piece of mail....
> >
I thought it was good news. Nice to see how the N-list is progressing. if it
was so useless why'd you bother to waste your time replying then?
At 07:30 PM 6/18/98 +0200, you wrote:
> >I recently asked KORG Support if it's possible to set which effects to use
> >in sequencer mode via midi SysEx. They told me that they do not specialize
> >in SysEx, but that they could see no reason why it wouldn't be possible.
> >
> >I know it's possible to select the effect for both fx processors in prog
> >and combi mode (don't know the codes though), but how to do it in sequencer
> >mode?
> >
> >KORG Support told me to take a closer look at the midi implementation chart
> >in the back of the Reference Guide.
> >
> >Can anybody please help with checking this?
> >
> >Just think how nice it would be if you could select the effects in seq mode
>from your external sequencer!
Ive tried to figure it out but with no success. Someone should drop the
coder of xedit an email and see if he can give any tips on this, figure
if there's anyone out there who *can* get the n364 working completely with
cakewalk its him.
There is one way around this. By setting the effects and parameters manually
on the n364-then dumping it into cakewalk via sysex you can use all the various
effects ect with cakewalk. Just load the sysex data into the begining of your
song and save it. This will auto load (if you clicked auto in the sysex view)
every time you load up your song. Not really the best way of going about it
but at least you can sequence with different effects ect..
> > There is one way around this. By setting the effects and parameters
manually
> > on the n364-then dumping it into cakewalk via sysex you can use all the
various
Yes, this is a viable method. Some people object to the fact that the
only sysex dump available is for All Song data. That is, all 10 songs.
Of course, if there's no notes in any of the on-board songs, then the
dump will still be relatively short, and fast.
The other possible method is to record your movements via sysex into your
computer sequencer. To elaborate:
1. In Global mode, Enable Sysex data. And set the Global MIDI channel
to the same channel every time, e.g. 1.
2. Set up your sequencer to record sysex, if necessary.
3. Put the sequencer into Record, go back to the N keyboard, and setup
up your effects. That is, starting from regular Sequence mode, press
the Edit button, go to the Effects page, and physically do all that you
need to do to set up the effects, while your computer is recording.
4. Play back the sequence, and watch the N repeat your moves! This is
the theory, anyway. Of course, this recording may take you a few
minutes to do. Then you can go in and remove the pieces of silence, and
tighten it up, so that it only takes a few seconds. (Don't tighten up
too much, or else some events may be lost.)
5. For live work, you will need to allocate enough time at the head of the
song, to allow for the sysex dump. For studio work, it doesn't matter
- just play this track once before you start work on the song, and then
mute the track.
Like I said, this is the theory.....
All the best,
jg..
Hi,
As far as an editor for the N264/364 goes, I did write to Joost who is the
author of Xedit. His reply is attached below.
Regarding sysex I think if enough people persuaded him he probably would do
it. I tried to figure out the sysex myself from the midi implementation chart
to no avail.
Keep the mailing list going. People who are offended by the mails should just
unsubscribe.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi,
Xedit works with the N-series, but only as far as the X3-compatible features
are concerned. So the extra memory & waveforms of the N series are not
supported.
Rgds
Joost
*@*.com wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Help!
> >
> > I desperately need an editor compatible to the Korg N Series, I have >
two N 264's and
> > I have tried to find editors but no luck. Does Xedit work with the N >
series? if so are
> > there any limitations?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > email : *@*.net
the n264 is this really a good board im a first time buyer?
what is the best amp to use on this board is it a kb300 (peavey)
At 19:57 22-6-98 +0200, you wrote:
> >the n264 is this really a good board im a first time buyer?
> >
> >what is the best amp to use on this board is it a kb300 (peavey)
> >
I like the N264 very much. It is just what you want.
If you want a good synthesizer to play on stage or on your own buy a
Korg. Korg is particularly good in pads & spacy synthesizer sounds.
And it has nice electrical pianos and organs for example.
Korg's combination sounds are very full.
I like the playability of the N264 and it's good expressive keyboard.
If you are more interested in acoustic sounds you might be better of with a
Roland. Most GM (general midi) sounds are better too. But overall, the
sounds are not as fat as Korg' patches.
Can I somehow "simulate" a Delay effect in Cakewalk (3 or 5) in an easy way?
I mean trought my N364 or just with Cwalk.
Thanx
Grok
Hi friends from N-list, I really need a N262/364 INS FILE for Cakewalk Pro Audio
If any of you has this file or know where it can be found, please mail me as soon as posible.
Thank you very much.
Manoel M. Neto - Brazil
I often get inspiration when listening to other peoples music,
especially when it
Is made with the same equipment that I am using. It gives you a new
perspective I think.
I have an idea:
If you have some piece of music that you want to share you could mail a
link to this list.
If you don't have a place to put your music, you can mail it to me and I
will put it on my FTP site.
I prefer MP3 format since the files are compressed. Please state which
equipment that was used.
The songs should have been created by / or some parts of the song by/ a
Korg NX(64?).
If you don't think this is a good idea, just ignore this.
Here are some examples:
ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg
<ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg>
Comment:
I used some loops and added guitar to some of the songs. I will add
vocals whenever they are completed.
Nothing special, but it could be interesting to check out. N264 is the
only keyboard used.
Regards,
Joakim Lundberg
--------------------------------------------------------
Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg
182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering
SWEDEN +46-8-*
http://www.skanska.com mailto:joakim.*@*.se
--------------------------------------------------------
How do you record the N264 output to a MP3 file? I have been looking for
a software to do so, but I don't know wich is the best one.
I have listened to your music and its great. Congratulations.
Thanks in advance,
Alejandro.
> >I often get inspiration when listening to other peoples music,
> >especially when it
> >Is made with the same equipment that I am using. It gives you a new
> >perspective I think.
> >
> >I have an idea:
> >
> >If you have some piece of music that you want to share you could mail a
> >link to this list.
> >If you don't have a place to put your music, you can mail it to me and
I
> >will put it on my FTP site.
> >I prefer MP3 format since the files are compressed. Please state which
> >equipment that was used.
> >
> >The songs should have been created by / or some parts of the song by/ a
> >Korg NX(64?).
> >
> >If you don't think this is a good idea, just ignore this.
> >
> >Here are some examples:
> >
> >ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg
> ><ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg>
> >
> >Comment:
> >I used some loops and added guitar to some of the songs. I will add
> >vocals whenever they are completed.
> >Nothing special, but it could be interesting to check out. N264 is the
> >only keyboard used.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Joakim Lundberg
> >
> >--------------------------------------------------------
> >Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg
> >182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering
> >SWEDEN +46-8-*
> >http://www.skanska.com mailto:joakim.*@*.se
> >--------------------------------------------------------
> >
----------
> > From: Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé <*@*.USAL.ES>
> > To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> > Subject: Delay in Cwalk
> > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:28:53 +0200
> >
> >Can I somehow "simulate" a Delay effect in Cakewalk (3 or 5) in an easy
way?
> >I mean trought my N364 or just with Cwalk.
> >
> >Thanx
> > Grok
You can simulate delay effect with any respectable MIDI sequencer (like, for
example, N 364 internal seq). Just copy the track that you want to apply
delay to into another track and then use quantize function to offset it with
respect to the original track to get the desired result.
Hope it helps,
S-Machine
At 08:17 1998-06-25 +1100, Morgan Warren wrote:
> >I just signed up for the list a few days ago and there is no email coming
> >to me from the list (except the email saying I was signed up.)
> >
> >Did I do something wrong or is the traffic on this list very low in volume?
Nothing is likely to be wrong. The volume can be very low at times, eventhough
there are more than a hundred members on this list...
So come on people, aks your questions and they will be answered. This
discussion list is for everybody; beginners, average users, casual users,
professionals, hi-tech freaks etc. Even if the discussion level can be quite
high here at times, never hesitate to ask questions at 'low' or 'mid' level!
People here are very friendly!
A FAQ is being put together. Can't say when it'll be ready, but it shouldn't
take too long.
Cheers!
At 17:10 1998-06-24 -0500, Bryan wrote:
> >I was curious if you have the capability of converting midi files to .sng
> >files?
> >
> >My friend is having a wedding and I need to learn all these "wedding
> >tunes", I thought it would be neat if I could load them in my korg and
> >just edit the voices and timing. Can you help me out?
You can load midi files (I assume you mean .mid files) directly into the
internal sequencer of your N, since it fully supports the general midi file
format. First put the .mid (or .smf) files on a disk, and then insert it into
the disk drive of the N.
Enter disk menu page 5A (Load SMF - Standard Midi File), select a file and
load
it to one of the 10 internal sequencer songs (select song number on the
page to
the right of page 5A). Remember to make a backup of the songs you might
have in
the internal sequencer first.
If you want to save your midi files as a .sng, repeat the above procedure for
up to 9 more songs, and save all the songs as a .sng (disk menu page 3C). A
.sng file always contains all 10 songs from the internal sequencer, so you
can't save a single song only.
At 19:10 1998-06-24 -0300, Manoel M. Neto wrote:
>Hi friends from N-list, I really need a N262/364 INS FILE for Cakewalk Pro
>Audio
>
>If any of you has this file or know where it can be found, please mail me
as
>soon as posible.
You can download my Cakewalk package for N264/N364 from the download
section of my homepage:
http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/
The package includes instrument definitions, SysEx dump request macros and
SysEx messages to put the N264/N364 in seq/prog/combi mode.
At 10:36 1998-06-25 +0200, Joakim Lundberg wrote:
>I often get inspiration when listening to other peoples music,
>especially when it Is made with the same equipment that I am using.
>It gives you a new perspective I think.
I couldn't agree more!!
>I have an idea:
>
>If you have some piece of music that you want to share you could mail a
>link to this list. If you don't have a place to put your music, you can
>mail it to me and I will put it on my FTP site.
>I prefer MP3 format since the files are compressed. Please state which
>equipment that was used. The songs should have been created by / or some
>parts of the song by/ a Korg NX(64?).
This is an excellent idea! The problem is that most people won't be able to
create mp3's out of their songs though. Ofcourse SNG files are welcome too!
Thank you for this brilliant initiative!!
For those of you who don't already know, I have one of my songs in mp3
format in the "My music" section on my homepage:
http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/
The song is called "Lime Garden" and is 90% made with my N364.
>Here are some examples:
>
>ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg
Will check this out for sure!
Cheers!
At 11:33 1998-06-25 -0700, Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca wrote:
> >How do you record the N264 output to a MP3 file? I have been looking for
> >a software to do so, but I don't know wich is the best one.
For people with PC:
First record the output to a wav file (*.wav) using your soundcard's
line-in. Then you need an MP3 compressor. There are several, but here are
two examples:
L3Enc for DOS which is free (I think?) and very common
MP3 Producer Pro for Win9x/NT which is excellent (!!!) but expensive (take
a look at this page: http://www.opticom.de/). There's also MP3 Producer
Advanced which is cheaper. Can be found on the same page.
I Record my music to harddisk using cakewalk (just plug your NX64 output
to your soundcard).
All the midi tracks goes down to one midi track. Then you can add other
audio tracks if you want to.
I export the recorded music to a WAV file using cakewalk. The WAV file
can be converted to MP3 using any software such as L3ENC or MP3 Producer
PRO.
I do it all the time, and I think it is a great way to distribute music
to others over the net.
--------------------------------------------------------
Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg
182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering
SWEDEN +46-8-*
http://www.skanska.com mailto:joakim.*@*.se
--------------------------------------------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca
[mailto:*@*.COM]
Sent: den 25 juni 1998 20:33
To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
Subject: Re: Music
How do you record the N264 output to a MP3 file? I have
been looking for
a software to do so, but I don't know wich is the best
one.
I have listened to your music and its great.
Congratulations.
Thanks in advance,
Alejandro.
>I often get inspiration when listening to other peoples
music,
>especially when it
>Is made with the same equipment that I am using. It
gives you a new
>perspective I think.
>
>I have an idea:
>
>If you have some piece of music that you want to share
you could mail a
>link to this list.
>If you don't have a place to put your music, you can
mail it to me and
I
>will put it on my FTP site.
>I prefer MP3 format since the files are compressed.
Please state which
>equipment that was used.
>
>The songs should have been created by / or some parts
of the song by/ a
>Korg NX(64?).
>
>If you don't think this is a good idea, just ignore
this.
>
>Here are some examples:
>
>ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg
><ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg>
>
>Comment:
>I used some loops and added guitar to some of the
songs. I will add
>vocals whenever they are completed.
>Nothing special, but it could be interesting to check
out. N264 is the
>only keyboard used.
>
>Regards,
>
>Joakim Lundberg
>
> >--------------------------------------------------------
>Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg
>182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering
>SWEDEN +46-8-*
>http://www.skanska.com
mailto:joakim.*@*.se
> >--------------------------------------------------------
>
At 10:36 25/06/98 +0200, you wrote:
> >I often get inspiration when listening to other peoples music,
> >especially when it
> >Is made with the same equipment that I am using. It gives you a new
> >perspective I think.
> >
> >I have an idea:
> >
> >If you have some piece of music that you want to share you could mail a
> >link to this list.
> >If you don't have a place to put your music, you can mail it to me and I
> >will put it on my FTP site.
> >I prefer MP3 format since the files are compressed. Please state which
> >equipment that was used.
> >
> >The songs should have been created by / or some parts of the song by/ a
> >Korg NX(64?).
> >
> >If you don't think this is a good idea, just ignore this.
> >
> >Here are some examples:
> >
> >ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg
> ><ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg>
> >
> >Comment:
> >I used some loops and added guitar to some of the songs. I will add
> >vocals whenever they are completed.
> >Nothing special, but it could be interesting to check out. N264 is the
> >only keyboard used.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Joakim Lundberg
> >
Great!!!
But I haven't the MP3 software. And I have my N364 and my internet conexion
15 Km far. No zip yet. So I won't carry seven 3'5 disk for one song.
But I'll send it in .sng format.
...when I finish them :)
At 22:36 1998-06-22 +1000, J+G Grant wrote:
>> >> There is one way around this. By setting the effects and parameters
>> >> manually on the n364-then dumping it into cakewalk via sysex you can
>> >> use all the various
> >
> >Yes, this is a viable method. Some people object to the fact that the
> >only sysex dump available is for All Song data. That is, all 10 songs.
> >Of course, if there's no notes in any of the on-board songs, then the
> >dump will still be relatively short, and fast.
This is probably the best way to do it, considering that it can be quite
cumbersome to edit many parameter settings via separate SysEx messages.
> >The other possible method is to record your movements via sysex into your
> >computer sequencer.
That's a good idea, but it refuses to work.
Try editing an effect parameter in program mode, e.g. set effect processor
1 to distortion (page 7A) while recording SysEx with your external
sequencer. 10 bytes will be recorded.
Now, try sending the recorded SysEx message back to your N while in program
mode. The N will respond correctly.
Try sending it while in combination mode. The N will respond, but not
correctly.
Try sending it while in sequencer mode. The N will not respond at all.
So, SysEx parameter editing is mode-specific you think. That's right. There
is one big problem though. Try doing a SysEx recording when editing effect
parameters in sequencer mode. You will notice that nothing will be
recorded. This is because the N doesn't send parameter SysEx when in
sequencer mode.
Atleast my N364 won't. I hope it is not due to a setup fault in my midi
system, but I doubt that. Please try the above yourself and see if I'm
wrong. I hope I am... ;)
Cheers!
At 10:36 1998-06-25 +0200, Joakim Lundberg wrote:
> >Here are some examples:
> >
> >ftp://193.14.161.5/pub/music/joakim_lundberg
> >
> >Comment:
> >I used some loops and added guitar to some of the songs. I will add
> >vocals whenever they are completed. Nothing special, but it could be
> >interesting to check out. N264 is the only keyboard used.
Downloaded a few of the songs, and I really like them! Definately worth the
download time!
It's always nice when people want to share their music (especially if it's
made with N264/N364 :) ).
Cheers!
I'm sort of a beginner at the N264. I bought this machine in October
and am using it mostly for a keyboard controller, but I need to start
using it for some other things. I need to use it for a duet this
weekend and need to know how to program it. I want to use a strings
from the combi program and also a piano. I can't figure out how to do
that. Also I can't figure out how to record. I use a Yamaha PSR 620 at
school where I teach and have had no trouble learning it, but I'm
totally frustrated with this Korg. I've read the manual and end up more
confused. What do people like me do to learn how to operate this thing?
Hi, I was just wondering if there´s a way to fde the N 264 sequencer´s
tracks, lease let me know because I´m stuck with it. Thankyou music
lovers!!!
CHHG
At 22:58 1998-07-07 -0600, Christian Herrejón wrote:
> >Hi, I was just wondering if there´s a way to fde the N 264 sequencer´s
> >tracks, lease let me know because I´m stuck with it. Thankyou music
> >lovers!!!
fde? Do you mean fade, as in volume increas/decrease?
Please give us more information so we can help you better.
There's more than one way to control the volume of a track. You have midi
controller 7 (main track volume), controller 11 (expression = volume
relative to main track volume) and there's a SysEx code that controls the
main volume of all tracks:
F0 7F 7F 04 01 xx yy F7
xx = LSB: 00 through 7F
yy = MSB: 00 through 7F
Max volume is when xx=7F and yy=7F:
F0 7F 7F 04 01 7F 7F F7
Min volume is when xx=00 and yy=00:
F0 7F 7F 04 01 00 00 F7
The easiest way is to use midi controller 11. It's max is 7F (127 in
decimal numbers) and min is 0.
Somebody else will have to fill in on how to use these in the internal
sequencer, since I only use external sequencers myself...
Thanks for the info but it is not completely clear for me , for example, I
want a song to end with the volume decreasing(fading), am I clear??
Thanks again.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE>
Para: *@*.syntegra.net <*@*.syntegra.net>
Fecha: sábado, 11 de julio de 1998 3:58
Asunto: Re: fader info
> >At 22:58 1998-07-07 -0600, Christian Herrejón wrote:
> >
>> >>Hi, I was just wondering if there´s a way to fde the N 264 sequencer´s
>> >>tracks, lease let me know because I´m stuck with it. Thankyou music
>> >>lovers!!!
> >
> >fde? Do you mean fade, as in volume increas/decrease?
> >
> >Please give us more information so we can help you better.
> >
> >There's more than one way to control the volume of a track. You have midi
> >controller 7 (main track volume), controller 11 (expression = volume
> >relative to main track volume) and there's a SysEx code that controls the
> >main volume of all tracks:
> >
> >F0 7F 7F 04 01 xx yy F7
> >
> >xx = LSB: 00 through 7F
> >yy = MSB: 00 through 7F
> >
> >Max volume is when xx=7F and yy=7F:
> >
> >F0 7F 7F 04 01 7F 7F F7
> >
> >Min volume is when xx=00 and yy=00:
> >
> >F0 7F 7F 04 01 00 00 F7
> >
> >The easiest way is to use midi controller 11. It's max is 7F (127 in
> >decimal numbers) and min is 0.
> >
> >Somebody else will have to fill in on how to use these in the internal
> >sequencer, since I only use external sequencers myself...
Hello, I hope this mail not to be too much out of topic, but i would
like to know if someone developing any program for the N has already tried
something for receiving sysex via MIDI. I am trying it with windows NT,
but i am stuck (its the very first time i program for windows, so i have
had many problems).
I downloaded both PST and pcg2txt, which are very good, maybe the ones
who wrote them could help me. Thanks in advance.
Jordi
Could anybody help me??
I have lost of problems with Cubase VST 3.5 and midi files.
I think it's a configuration problem.
But I can't get with it.
It seems to have a lack of fixed time, some notes are repeated, and things
like this.
Ah!
Other thing. I've been testing it on a PC with a noisy card. But noise grows
up too much when I start my Cubase. Any ideas??
Thanx in advance
<Grok
OK, so the manuals say you have to go into sequencer mode to record
patterns and songs. Is there any way to record a song or pattern using
combinations?
Hello,
Forgive me if this is a stupid question or if it has already been asked,
but I can't seem to properly set up Cakewalk instrument/controller definitions
for my n364. I was using 3.0, and I just upgraded to 6.01. I am using the
.ins files from Kenneth Jonsson's download page. The patch name definitions
seem to work well, but Cakewalk does not seem to record controller messages
from my n364 at all (sustain, pitch/bend, modulation, etc.).... Am I missing
something? Would someone please give me a pointer or two, or maybe direct me
to an online resource concerning this matter?
thank you,
Rick Bell
This mail is a bit long, but worth reading through if you use the internal
sequencer of your N264/N364. It is written so everybody can follow (I
hope). Please ask if there's something you don't understand.
> >Thanks for the info but it is not completely clear for me, for example, I
> >want a song to end with the volume decreasing (fading), am I clear??
My reply was strictly theoretical, so I understand if it wasn't clear. :)
I found out how to add midi controller data to a track in the internal
sequencer a minute ago (see page 135 in the Reference Guide):
--------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Enter sequencer edit mode, and go to page 3D [Create Crl].
2. Select track.
3. Go one step to the right, and select beginning measure (start of
fade-down).
4. Step right, select position within beginning measure (optional).
5. Step right, select end measure (end of fade-down).
6. Step right, select position within end measure (optional).
7. Step right, select midi controller number:
C007 (controller 7) is main track volume
C011 (controller 11) is volume relative to main track volume
Check page 126 in the Reference Guide for other controllers.
8. Step right, select end value.
9. Step right, select OK.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
You have to repeat the procedure for every track.
There is one odd thing about this function. There is no start value! The
function will use the most recent value before the start measure as start
value.
To make things more clear, I'll give you an example:
1. Enter sequencer edit mode, page 3D.
2. Select a track that contains music.
3. Select start measure 001, position 1:00.
4. Select end measure 004, position 1:00.
5. Select controller 11.
6. Select end value 000.
7. Select OK.
Go to measure 1 and play the song. The volume of the edited track will
decrease over time, from measure 1 to measure 4 (where volume will be zero).
Remember that controller 11 is volume relative to main volume. This means
that the fade will start from the main track volume (which you set in
sequencer mode). This is a good thing, trust me. :)
Now, what if you want to fade UP instead of DOWN? This is a little bit more
complicated. The start value of controller 11 is automatically set to 127
in the beginning of the song, so you have to add a 0 in the start measure
so that the [Create ctl] function will fade up from 0.
First, to add a midi controller 11 message with value 0 (there is more than
one method):
--------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Enter sequencer edit mode, page2B [Event Edit].
2. Select a track that contains music.
3. Press the [rec/write] button.
4. Press the [start/stop] button.
5. Select a start measure.
6. Press cursor up, i.e. the [cursor, perf edit / rppr] button.
7. If event number is not #001, repeat step 6 until it is.
8. Press insert, i.e. the button with a 7 above it in the uppermost
button row, close to the volume slider. 'INSERT' is written in
green below it.
9. Go three steps to the right, move the value slider to the top (if
already at the top, move it to the bottom and then to the top
again).
10. PAFT should be blinking. Press value decrease, i.e. [/NO] button.
11. CTRL should be blinking. Go one step to the right. Select 11.
12. Step right, select 000.
13. Check the measure number (the value furthermost to the left). You
will start the fade-in from this measure. Write it down or
remember it.
14. Press [start/stop] button.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
All this just because the [Create ctl] function doesn't have a start value.
Second, do the fade-in:
--------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Enter sequencer edit mode, page 3D [Create ctrl].
2. Select the same track as above (it's usually already selected).
3. Step right, select the measure you wrote down (or remembered).
4. Step right.
5. Step right, select end measure (end of fade-in)
6. Step right.
7. Step right, select controller 11 (C011).
8. Step right, select end value 127.
9. Step right, select OK.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Play the song from the measure you wrote down, and the volume should fade
from 0 to 127.
You have to repeat the procedure for every track you want to fade in.
Cheers!
At 09:36 1998-07-13 +0100, Jordi Contreras Sune wrote:
> > Hello, I hope this mail not to be too much out of topic, but i would
> >like to know if someone developing any program for the N has already tried
> >something for receiving sysex via MIDI. I am trying it with windows NT,
> >but i am stuck (its the very first time i program for windows, so i have
> >had many problems).
It's not out of topic, since it's related to the N. :)
I'm not a programmer, but I've heard that the MIDI support in Windows NT
can be troublesome. Perhaps somebody else knows exactly why?
Talk with Greg Babineau (author of PCG2txt). He's experimenting with SysEx
via Windows (hey, Greg, you reading this? :) ).
Hi all!!
I'm working also on a tool related to the N264/N364, and I would like to
know if Greg Banineau could share the PCG Hex format with me.
Does anybody knows Gregs e-mail address?
Anyone has addicional documentation (not included in manual pages)
related to the N-Series?
Thanks in advance,
Alejandro.
********************************************
Alejandro del Hoyo Menchaca
Intelligent Services Networks and Security
Avantel, S.A.
Monterrey, N.L.
Mexico.
********************************************
>From *@*.syntegra.net Wed Jul 15 07:57:25 1998
> >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21])
> > by mail.syntegra.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA01305;
> > Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:52:24 +0200 (MET DST)
> >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
release
> > 1.8c) with spool id 0291 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Wed,
15 Jul
> > 1998 16:52:24 +0200
> >Received: from smtp.tninet.se (tjatte.tninet.se [195.100.94.70]) by
> > mail.syntegra.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA01291 for
> > <*@*.syntegra.net>; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:51:00 +0200
(MET DST)
> >Received: (qmail 25282 invoked by uid 65537); 15 Jul 1998 16:49:00
+0200
> >Received: from du129-228.luth.tninet.se (HELO burken) (195.100.228.129)
by
> > tjatte.tninet.se with SMTP; 15 Jul 1998 16:49:00 +0200
> >Mime-Version: 1.0
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >Message-ID: <199807151451.*@*.syntegra.net>
> >Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:48:31 +0200
> >Reply-To: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List <*@*.syntegra.net>
> >Sender: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List <*@*.syntegra.net>
> >From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE>
> >Subject: Re: win programming
> >To: *@*.syntegra.net
> >In-Reply-To:
<Pine.HPP.3.95.980713092921.*@*.salleURL.ed u>
> >
> >At 09:36 1998-07-13 +0100, Jordi Contreras Sune wrote:
> >
>> >> Hello, I hope this mail not to be too much out of topic, but i would
>> >>like to know if someone developing any program for the N has already
tried
>> >>something for receiving sysex via MIDI. I am trying it with windows
NT,
>> >>but i am stuck (its the very first time i program for windows, so i
have
>> >>had many problems).
> >
> >It's not out of topic, since it's related to the N. :)
> >
> >I'm not a programmer, but I've heard that the MIDI support in Windows
NT
> >can be troublesome. Perhaps somebody else knows exactly why?
> >
> >Talk with Greg Babineau (author of PCG2txt). He's experimenting with
SysEx
> >via Windows (hey, Greg, you reading this? :) ).
I recently put categorized lists of the progs and combis that came with
your N (preload.pcg) on my site.
They are compiled from the lists found on KORG USA's site, and ready for
printing.
Go here:
http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/download.html
At 09:02 1998-07-15 -0700, Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca wrote:
> >I'm working also on a tool related to the N264/N364, and I would like to
> >know if Greg Banineau could share the PCG Hex format with me.
> >Does anybody knows Gregs e-mail address?
He is subscribed to this list. If you want his email address, you can
download his PCG2txt archive from my site.
If I remember correctly, he once told me that the PCG hex format is the
same as the descriptions in the MIDI Implementation Charts in the back of
the Reference Guide (pages 221 to 225).
At 20:42 1998-07-14 -0500, Rick Bell wrote:
> >Forgive me if this is a stupid question or if it has already been asked
Don't worry, no question is stupid!
> >I can't seem to properly set up Cakewalk instrument/controller definitions
> >for my n364. I was using 3.0, and I just upgraded to 6.01.
> >
> >The patch name definitions seem to work well, but Cakewalk does not seem to
> >record controller messages from my n364 at all (sustain, pitch/bend,
modulation,
> >etc.).... Am I missing something?
Cakewalk recording isn't affected by instrument definitions. It's most
likely that it is a filter setting.
I'm using Pro Audio 7, and the option windows have changed, so I don't know
exactly where you can find the MIDI Filter window. There should be a window
with checkboxes, where a checked midi controller will be recorded, and an
unchecked controller will not. It seems all your checkboxes are unchecked?
On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca wrote:
> > Hi all!!
> > I'm working also on a tool related to the N264/N364, and I would like to
> > know if Greg Banineau could share the PCG Hex format with me.
> > Does anybody knows Gregs e-mail address?
> > Anyone has addicional documentation (not included in manual pages)
> > related to the N-Series?
> >
Well, I dont know if you have the file describing the PCG format (i found
it time ago, while searching in a X3 page). I will attach it here because
its very small (i suppose not everybody will be interested in it, but its
very small)
>> > >I'm not a programmer, but I've heard that the MIDI support in Windows
> > NT
>> > >can be troublesome. Perhaps somebody else knows exactly why?
>> > >
>> > >Talk with Greg Babineau (author of PCG2txt). He's experimenting with
> > SysEx
>> > >via Windows (hey, Greg, you reading this? :) ).
Thats what i need :) . I have advanced a litlle bit by myself,
but i dont know why my program only receives one sysex, and then ignores
all the others . Ah, windows is SO nice... ;)
x3_pcg.txt
.pcg Overview Table \ By Daniel Joseph Oak \Internet=*@*.com
For Korg X3 Music Workstation \ Korg X3-FTP FTP.NETCOM.COM /pub/jonin/midi/x3
This is the information I have on the x3 series .pcg file.
(also known as KORG5 format)
Note: all numbers givin are in decimal. (10 base) and are on record
position. (i.e. first byte of file is at record position 1)
The numbers are NOT in offset mode (i.e. first byte is offset 0) because
I use Qbasic for programming and I am making this list dammit. :)
If you want offset - subtract 1.
If you want Hex - whip out your dec-hex calculator. :)
Anything with a "?" means I havent a clue. (Tell me!)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Record Pos Description Byte
------------ ------------------------------------------------------ ----
1 - 5 KORG5 (Format ID) 5
6 - 88 ???????????????????? 83
+--Directory Start
| 89 - 98 Combination A00 NAME 10
| Through (i.e. the names A01-A98 ) All are 10
| 1079 - 1088 Combination A99 NAME 10
|
| 1089 - 1098 Combination B00 NAME 10
| Through (i.e. the names B01-B98 ) All are 10
| 2079 - 2088 Combination B99 NAME 10
|
| 2089 - 2098 Program A00 NAME 10
| Through (i.e. the names A01-A98 ) All are 10
| 3079 - 3088 Program A99 NAME 10
|
| 3089 - 3098 Program B00 NAME 10
| Through (i.e. the names B01-B98 ) All are 10
| 4079 - 4088 Program B99 NAME 10
+-Directory End
4089 - 4136 Global Section: (See X3Global.doc) 48
4137 - 6776 A Drum Section: (See X3Drums.doc) 2640
4137 - 4158 Drum Kit A1 - Index 0 Patch data 22
Through (i.e. Patch data for Kit A1 - Index 1-59)
5457 - 5478 Drum Kit A2 - Index 0 Patch data 22
Through (i.e. Patch data for Kit A2 - Index 1-59)
6777 - 20376 Combination Bank A Section: 13600 10
6777 - 6786 Combination A00 NAME 10
6787 - 6912 Combination A00 Patch data 126
Through (i.e. The name and patch data for A01-A99)
20377 - 36776 Programs Bank A Section: 16400
20377 - 20386 Program A00 NAME 10
20387 - 20540 Program A00 Patch Data 154
Through (i.e. The name apnd patch data for A01-A99)
36777 - 39416 B Drum Section (See X3Drums.doc) 2640
36777 - 36798 Drum Kit B1 - Index 0 Patch data 22
Through (i.e. Patch data for Kit B1 - Index 1-59)
38097 - 38118 Drum Kit B2 - Index 0 Patch data 22
Through (i.e. Patch data for Kit B2 - Index 1-59)
39417 - 53016 Combination Bank B Section: 13600 10
39417 - 39426 Combination B00 NAME 10
39427 - 39552 Combination B00 Patch data 126
Through (i.e. The name and patch data for B01-B99)
53017 - 69416 Programs Bank B Section: 16400
53017 - 53026 Program B00 NAME 10
53027 - 53180 Program B00 Patch Data 154
Through (i.e. The name apnd patch data for B01-B99)
No eof marker.
Total FIle Size: 69416
____________________________________________________________________________
Whats Missing?
Currently all I got is the names and the sizes of the patch data. I dont
have any details on what each of the 154 bytes in a program or the 126
bytes in the combination patch area.
I still havent a single clue what the heck record position 6 - 88 is for.
Anybody have an idea on that one?
There are areas in the global parameters that are missing or not understood.
Please feel free to check out X3Global.doc for more details on that.
The Drums Section needs a bit of fleashing out as well. Check out the
X3Drums.doc for more details on the drums specifics beyond patch locations.
What can you do?
Pick a section - or email me first and ask which section you should do so
we dont duplicate efforts. Then use the tried and true method of using a
hex editor to see what the changes you make on a patch or whatnot does
to the file. I have fabricated a general hex viewer to help me out and
I will place it in my special programs directory /pub/jonin/dos if you want
to use it. I am also going to make a program to help me disect the mess
a bit by focusing on the key areas. (i.e. my program would only show the
126 bytes for patch A00) This might be more usefull as my program could
know the values from the 'blank.pcg' and use that as a reference to highlight
differences.
If you find any hard information - please email it to me at *@*.com
Or you can throw it in the X3-FTP incoming directory at FTP.NETCOM.COM
(/pub/jonin/incoming for incoming files. /pub/jonin/x3 for X3-FTP)
With a little help - we should have this file nailed down fairly quickly.
Then we can get on to the patch-editor! :)
Attachments:
x3_pcg.txt 5,7 KB
Sorry to bother you, but:
I need to know when to use acutes [ ' ] and when to use quotes [ " ] in the
English language.
When referring to something with a given name, should it be acutes - for
example a song named 'Cartridge Creek'?
If so, then when do I use quotes?
Cheers!
I've put complete logs from this mailing list in the download area of my site!
Notice that they are in no way edited. Occasional attachments haven't been
removed.
The log for June 1998 will be added shortly.
The address to my site is in my signature below.
At 23:16 1998-07-15 +0100, Jordi Contreras Sune wrote:
> >I have advanced a litlle bit by myself,
> >but i dont know why my program only receives one sysex, and then ignores
> >all the others . Ah, windows is SO nice... ;)
It could perhaps have something to do with the chopping of SysEx messages
into buffers in Windows? I don't know anything about it, but I've read a
few texts by developers of SysEx managers who mention this...
I use acutes when nested in a quote:
She replied, "I've always like the use of the 'William Tell Overture' in 'A
Clockwork Orange', Kubrik's classic film."
Acutes are known as apostrophies in (at least American) English, and they can
be used to indicate titles of works (books, songs, films, etc.)... You're right
about that. They are also used to indicate ownership and contractions of
words.
Quotes are used to repeat a phrase someone said word-for-word, or sometimes (in
a slang fashion) to sarcastically refer to something as another thing. In the
English (again, at least in American English) M.L.A. writing guidelines (which
I REALLY hate), it is explained how quotes are used to legally repeat a
publishsed quote from someone's existing work inside your work.
Example:
Bob said, "My, it's hot outside."
Fred replied, "Quit complaining."
Another:
In his writing, he replies, "But I didn't know she was still alive."
Another:
She is not "perfect", but she is close.
I'm not an English major, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong...
hope this helps,
Rick
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > Sorry to bother you, but:
> >
> > I need to know when to use acutes [ ' ] and when to use quotes [ " ] in the
> > English language.
> >
> > When referring to something with a given name, should it be acutes - for
> > example a song named 'Cartridge Creek'?
> >
> > If so, then when do I use quotes?
> >
> > Cheers!
Kenneth,
Thank you for the reply. I hope I'm not bogging you down with questions, but
you seem to be the knowlegable one with these synths... of course, anyone else
please feel free to reply &8)
I checked the type filter window (see original message below), and the neccesary
checkboxes are checked, so apparently it is recording everything it receives
(except, of course, aftertouch by default), so that is not the problem. I just
noticed something else that is probably related to my problem; the Cakewalk
MIDI event send/receive icon in the Windows 95 tray (with the 2 little lights on
it) does not light up when I move the bend/mod lever or the damper pedal on my
N364... I think the keyboard is not sending those controller events out to the
computer, and it seems to only send note on/off and velocity messages.
I then tried another experiment; while Cakewalk is active, the N364
automatically sets Global's 3B "local" setting to "off" so all messages are sent
out and echoed by Cakewalk back in to the N364. When it is set to "off" no
controller messages are echoed back in to the N364, but when it is "on" it
operates normally and all messages are received... If I use Cakewalk to record
when local control is set to "on", the controllers will work within the N364,
but they will not work when the recording is played back. Is there something I
must enable in the n364 to send those events? Going from my previous experience
with other synths, it seems odd that I would need to enable something on it to
make it send controllers...
And yet another experiment... I recorded using the N364's on-board sequencer
(while local control was set to "on", of course), and *its own sequencer* did
not record any controller messages, only note on/off and velocity. I think that
is very odd....
To clear up any question about my setup, here it is: the N364's midi-out is
connected to the computer's midi-in, and vice versa. When it is connected and I
am sequencing, it is the only sound source in the midi daisychain.
thank you,
Rick
Kenneth Jonsson wrote in reply to Rick Bell:
>> > >I can't seem to properly set up Cakewalk instrument/controller definitions
>> > >for my n364. I was using 3.0, and I just upgraded to 6.01.
>> > >
>> > >The patch name definitions seem to work well, but Cakewalk does not seem to
>> > >record controller messages from my n364 at all (sustain, pitch/bend,
> > modulation,
>> > >etc.).... Am I missing something?
> >
> > Cakewalk recording isn't affected by instrument definitions. It's most
> > likely that it is a filter setting.
> >
> > I'm using Pro Audio 7, and the option windows have changed, so I don't know
> > exactly where you can find the MIDI Filter window. There should be a window
> > with checkboxes, where a checked midi controller will be recorded, and an
> > unchecked controller will not. It seems all your checkboxes are unchecked?
> >
Hello, i'm trying to setup my N264 with cakewalk as well. I can get
everything except Bank select messages to work, i few people have tried
to tell me how to do it, but i just can't figure out how to use the midi
controller, as in, where to put it, or what it is, or whatever else. If
anyone can offer any help, i'd REALLY appreciate it! thanx!
Mike Broer
HI ppl,
how do u exactly record the sysex msg on yr cakewalk fm N ? Or how do u
send the sysex msg fm N to cakewalk?
Hasnat
>From *@*.syntegra.net Sun Jun 21 01:04:57 1998
> >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21])
> > by mail.rijnhaave.nl (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA17811;
> > Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:35:38 +0200 (MET DST)
> >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
release
> > 1.8c) with spool id 4187 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Sun,
21 Jun
> > 1998 09:35:37 +0200
> >Received: from MNSi.Net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by
mail.rijnhaave.nl
> > (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id JAA17806 for
<*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>;
> > Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:35:35 +0200 (MET DST)
> >Received: (*@*) by MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA04000
for
> > <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 03:30:53 -0400
> >Received: from dyn208-28-55-146.win.mnsi.net(208.28.55.146) by
e450.mnsi.net
> > via smap (V2.0) id xma003990; Sun, 21 Jun 98 07:30:41 GMT
> >X-Sender: *@*.MNSi.net
> >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2
> >Mime-Version: 1.0
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >Message-ID: <199806210730.*@*.Net>
> >Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 03:30:53 -0400
> >Reply-To: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
> >Sender: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List <*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET>
> >From: Steve Wallis <*@*.NET>
> >Subject: Re: Effects via SysEx
> >To: *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET
> >
> >There is one way around this. By setting the effects and parameters
manually
> >on the n364-then dumping it into cakewalk via sysex you can use all the
various
> >effects ect with cakewalk. Just load the sysex data into the begining
of your
> >song and save it. This will auto load (if you clicked auto in the sysex
view)
> >every time you load up your song. Not really the best way of going
about it
> >but at least you can sequence with different effects ect..
> >
On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
>> > >but i dont know why my program only receives one sysex, and then ignores
> >
> > It could perhaps have something to do with the chopping of SysEx messages
> > into buffers in Windows? I don't know anything about it, but I've read a
> > few texts by developers of SysEx managers who mention this...
> >
Yes! It seems it was my problem, because i was fed up of trying weird
things when i decided to add another buffer and now it seems to work.
Anyway, could you tell me where to find those texts (if they are via
internet)? Maybe they are useful to me...
You wanted to know what i am developing: well, i am just playing a
little with all it, in my free time. The truth is that i have not decided
what to do, but the first thing i would like to do is a sort of librarian,
because i dont like using the N floppy drive (mainly because i have the
synth in a table, and the floppy drive is almost touching the wall).
Anyway, the status if what you have seen: still learning, but i
hope to have done something useable at the end of the summer.
Jordi.
Hi
Just a couple of ideas to add to the replies you have had. Your "acutes" are
better called apostrophes (as in US) or Single Quotes (if you've had a bit too
drink and are feeling tongue-tied - You'd probably prefer to say, "Who's getting
me a beer?" or asking has anyone got a copy of "Better Hangover Cures").
In UK English, "Acutes" are things used in spelling French words. Like graves
and cedillas!
Most of people are very casual about using " and ' , especially in the IT world,
but if you stick to "" to highlight speech and titles as in the examples in the
other replies you won't go far wrong.
David Anderson
At 04:35 AM 7/19/98 PDT, you wrote:
> >HI ppl,
> >
> >
> >how do u exactly record the sysex msg on yr cakewalk fm N ? Or how do u
> >send the sysex msg fm N to cakewalk?
> >
> >Hasnat
Simply make all the adjustments manually on the synth
first(panning/effects/send c&d levels/ect ect) then in cakewalk goto the
sysex view. You'll see an option to recieve sysex data. Now go into global
mode on the n364, and choose 'midi dump sequencer data'. Click recieve in
cakewalk and it will transmit everything. If you want this data to auto load
in cakewalk everytime you load your song, be sure to select 'auto' in the
sysex view as well. Now just save the tune in cakewalk and your all set.
Thanks to those who replied!
Now, if I refer to my song, should I write: [ ... my song "Lime Garden" ...
] or [ ... my song 'Lime Garden' ... ] ?
In Swedish, it would be "Lime Garden".
Oh, and [ ´ ] is called an apostrophe in Swedish also, but since ´ in
HTML prints a [ ´ ], I thought that's what it's called in English. ;)
At 20:12 1998-07-18 -0500, Rick Bell wrote:
> >I hope I'm not bogging you down with questions, but you seem to be the
> >knowlegable one with these synths... of course, anyone else please feel
> >free to reply &8)
No problem. I like to help!
Though I'm sure there are people on this list who know more about our
beloved N's than I do. Especially about sound programming. ;)
> >Going from my previous experience with other synths, it seems odd that I
> >would need to enable something on it to make it send controllers...
I think I know what the problem is:
Enter global mode, page 3D. If CTRL is set to DIS (DISable), your N won't
send/receive any midi controllers. It is set to ENA (ENAble) by default,
but this setting is saved in PCG's. Hence it's possible that you've loaded
a PCG which had CTRL set to DIS...
> >And yet another experiment... I recorded using the N364's on-board sequencer
> >(while local control was set to "on", of course), and *its own sequencer* did
> >not record any controller messages, only note on/off and velocity. I think
> >that is very odd....
Hmm.. Check page 171 (or is it 172?) in the Reference Guide. Don't have the
time to check right now, but you'll find a detailed description of what
CTRL:ENA/DIS does.
> >To clear up any question about my setup, here it is: the N364's midi-out is
> >connected to the computer's midi-in, and vice versa. When it is connected
> >and I am sequencing, it is the only sound source in the midi daisychain.
Are you using a virtual midi port program (like Hubi's MIDI Loopback Device
or similar) or a virtual midi cable program? These often have the ability
to filter midi events in the background.
At 01:21 1998-07-19 -0700, Mike Broer wrote:
> >i'm trying to setup my N264 with cakewalk. I can get everything except
> >Bank select messages to work. i just can't figure out how to use the midi
> >controller, as in, where to put it, or what it is, or whatever else.
A quick note on midi controllers (no offence!):
Midi controller messages are used to control things like volume, modulation
(often vibrato), pitch bend etc from an external midi source. That is,
everything that isn't note or velocity data (or SysEx - system exclusive
data).
Cakewalk has a built-in function called "Patch Change". This combines both
a bank select and a sound select in a useful way. Depending on the version
of Cakewalk you have, there is an "Insert" menu which has an entry named
"Bank/Patch Change".
First, go to the track where you want to do the patch change. Then put the
track view position cursor (the vertical line) at the preferred time
position. Then go to the "insert" menu, select "Bank/Patch Change". A
window pops up. Select the bank and the patch you want, and a Patch Change
message will be created. It is visible in list view.
There's atleast one more way to do it.
You can do it manually by inserting the necessary midi controllers, but the
"Bank/Patch Change" function is a lot more quick & handy.
I hope this helped.
At 00:21 1998-07-20 +0100, Jordi Contreras Sune wrote:
>>> >>> but i dont know why my program only receives one sysex, and then ignores
>> >>
>> >> It could perhaps have something to do with the chopping of SysEx messages
>> >> into buffers in Windows? I don't know anything about it, but I've read a
>> >> few texts by developers of SysEx managers who mention this...
>> >>
> > Yes! It seems it was my problem, because i was fed up of trying weird
> >things when i decided to add another buffer and now it seems to work.
Ah! :)
> >Anyway, could you tell me where to find those texts (if they are via
> >internet)? Maybe they are useful to me...
I'm sure you can read a lot about it in some Usenet newsgroup for midi
program developers, but I don't know the address to such a group. The docs
for MIDI Thruway (a great, free virtual midi cable program) contains info
about this matter, in the Advanced Topics / System Exclusive Handling
section. Download the program here: www.technotoys.com
I know there are other sources, but I don't remember where... :(
> >The truth is that i have not decided what to do, but the first thing i
> >would like to do is a sort of librarian
Please do! If enough people start doing librarians for the N264/N364, then
maybe there will be one finished soon. ;)
> >i dont like using the N floppy drive (mainly because i have the
> >synth in a table, and the floppy drive is almost touching the wall).
I don't like it because it's (extremely) slow and cumbersome. But I can't
trust the SysEx manager I'm using (only 95% safe SysEx transfers), so I
have to stick with it using the drive. :P
> >Anyway, the status if what you have seen: still learning, but i
> >hope to have done something useable at the end of the summer.
I hope so too!
At 07:22 1998-07-20 -0400, Steve Wallis wrote:
> >At 04:35 AM 7/19/98 PDT, you wrote:
> >Simply make all the adjustments manually on the synth
> >first(panning/effects/send c&d levels/ect ect) then in cakewalk goto the
> >sysex view. You'll see an option to recieve sysex data. Now go into global
> >mode on the n364, and choose 'midi dump sequencer data'. Click recieve in
> >cakewalk and it will transmit everything. If you want this data to auto load
> >in cakewalk everytime you load your song, be sure to select 'auto' in the
> >sysex view as well. Now just save the tune in cakewalk and your all set.
And as stated a couple of times before, it is a good idea to have the
internal sequencer of your N totally empty when doing this, since the SysEx
sequencer data dump contains ALL internal sequencer songs. An empty
sequencer means a small SysEx dump, yielding a faster transfer over the
midi cables.
On Mon, Jul 20, 1998 at 10:14:42PM +0200, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > ] or [ ... my song 'Lime Garden' ... ] ?
> >
> > In Swedish, it would be "Lime Garden".
> >
> > Oh, and [ ´ ] is called an apostrophe in Swedish also, but since ´ in
> > HTML prints a [ ´ ], I thought that's what it's called in English. ;)
... and since we're nitpicking off-topic, let me add my $0.02 :-)
The proper apostrophe sign on a computer is this: [ ' ], not this: [ ´ ]
nor this: [ ^Ò ].
It's ASCII 39, not 180 or 146 (both of these look like smaller quotes,
and some misguided Windoze programs use them as quotes, confusing the
hell out of anyone who tries to read the result on a non-Windoze OS).
How can we convert .wav's to .pcg's?
Thanks
-Mike
Mike,
That is one thought I have had for ages !!!!! One cannot , only the
software and sampling experts at KORG do that when they merge and process
samples to make multisamples and then convert them into samples read by
the internal KORG operating software . The trinity allows user to write
new samples onto the ROM, but not the other KORG keyboards !!!!
What can be done is that to save space and sequencer memory we can sample
sounds from the COMBI section and covert them into single samples onto
the sampler and then assign the complete sound onto one channel on the
sequencer instead of wasting channels and polyphony!!!!!
----------
From: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 1998 11:55 PM
To: SAMRATB; '*@* <*@*.syntegra.net>'
Subject: Samples and PCG's
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
How can we convert .wav's to .pcg's?
Thanks
-Mike
At 16:55 1998-07-22 -0700, Mike wrote:
> >How can we convert .wav's to .pcg's?
Unfortunately not possible, I'm afraid.
There is no sample RAM in the N264/N364 (the same goes for all other KORG
synthesizers/keyboards/modules except for the Trinity series). There's only
sample ROM. This means that the samples in the N264/N364 are fixed. Can't
be removed, can't be replaced. Unless you're a true hardware genius.
A PCG contains all program/combi settings (and a few more things), but no
samples. Only parameter data.
You will have to buy a sampler of some sort if you want to be able to use
.wav's as instruments (though it's a bit more complicated than that). Many
computer sound cards can be used as samplers, e.g. Soundblaster AWE64 Gold
(which I use), Terratec EWS64XL etc etc etc. A stand-alone sampler is often
quite expensive.
At 10:03 1998-07-23 +0000, Samrat Bharadwaj - K12 wrote:
> >What can be done is that to save space and sequencer memory we can sample
> >sounds from the COMBI section and covert them into single samples onto
> >the sampler and then assign the complete sound onto one channel on the
> >sequencer instead of wasting channels and polyphony!!!!!
[If somebody didn't follow, he's talking about using an external sequencer
and a hardware sampler (either stand-alone or built into a computer sound
card).]
That's an interesting method, also usable with programs that have
controversial fx settings!
There can be some trouble with this method though. If the combination
varies a lot over time, i.e. a slow phaser sweep, timbres sweeping in and
out in random patterns - not to mention different timbres in different
velocity windows, it will be hard to do a good representation of that
combination with a sample, unless that sample is very long. And as you
mention above, more than one sample has to be recorded in order to do a
good pitch representation when creating the sound in the sampler. The combi
will most likely lose some quality...
If the combination is of simple nature though, i.e. a plain
bass/pad/something without much variation over time, that method will work
perfectly!
Anyway, it's a very interesting idea! I'll try it sometime!
hi. i havent seen much posting of people's music here so i'll try to
get some publicity for my stuff.
i make industrial type music.
http://members.xoom.com/entity2k
music is 100% programmed on the N264
tell me what ya think. i know the sound files are low quality but i
wanted to make longer files so you can hear a good portion of the
songs. some time in the future there will be higher quality files or
mp3s once i figure out how to do that, but chek the ones that are
there for now. =Þ
thanx,
kaliss
At 12:55 1998-07-23 -0700, Kaliss wrote:
> >hi. i havent seen much posting of people's music here so i'll try to
> >get some publicity for my stuff.
I agree that there hasn't been many of these postings. Come on, people! :)
> >i make industrial type music. music is 100% programmed on the N264.
> >tell me what ya think.
I like those songs, eventhough the quality isn't very nice - as you said. ;)
> >some time in the future there will be higher quality files or
> >mp3s once i figure out how to do that
If you can make a .wav of your work (which you obviously can), then all you
need to make an .mp3 is an mp3 compressor. There are several, freeware,
shareware and commercial. If you have a PC, try L3Enc (freeware) or MP3
Producer Pro (great, but expensive).
Finally got a chance to listen. Sounds great!! Let us know when the demo
is available!
- erik
Kaliss wrote:
> > hi. i havent seen much posting of people's music here so i'll try to
> > get some publicity for my stuff.
> > i make industrial type music.
> >
> > http://members.xoom.com/entity2k
> >
> > music is 100% programmed on the N264
> >
> > tell me what ya think. i know the sound files are low quality but i
> > wanted to make longer files so you can hear a good portion of the
> > songs. some time in the future there will be higher quality files or
> > mp3s once i figure out how to do that, but chek the ones that are
> > there for now. =Þ
> >
> > thanx,
> > kaliss
For some reason, I have started to receive ALL the mailing list posts
individually, instead of in Digest Form.
I have made no changes. Anyone have any idea what has happened?
If Digest Form is not longer available, I will have to unsubscribe, since I
cannot deal with any additional messages on my system.
Thanks for any help.
Robert Neville
*@*.com
Anything we can do to help !!!!!
Hi !!!
This is samrat from INDIA !!!!!
bye
Hi, i have just been off this mailing list because i was busy. Can someone
please sign me up again?
Thanks
-Toon
To subscribe to the KORG N264/N364 Mailing List, send a mail to
*@*.SYNTEGRA.NET with "subscribe n-list" in the body. No
subject needed.
Samrat Bharadwaj - K12 wrote:
> > Nope I can't really help you on this one !!
> > Contact the list manger !!
Nope I can't really help you on this one !!
Contact the list manger !!
At 18:41 1998-07-26 +0200, Toon Theuwis wrote:
> >Hi, i have just been off this mailing list because i was busy. Can someone
> >please sign me up again?
I'll do it for you. Should've done it earlier, but I've been away. Welcome
back!
Next time, please ask us list owners to help you:
*@*.syntegra.net
You can send to that address even if you're not subscribed to the list.
At 22:54 1998-07-24 -0700, Robert Neville wrote:
> >For some reason, I have started to receive ALL the mailing list posts
> >individually, instead of in Digest Form.
You have probably been auto-deleted by the mail server, and then added back
by me quietly (members of this list are sometimes auto-deleted due to
communications problems between the Syntegra mail server and their mail
servers). The default list settings for each member is to not get mails in
digest form. When you were added back, you got those default settings back
too.
I'll set the digest flag for you right away!! Sorry for any inconveniences!
For all of you:
You can set the digest flag yourself by sending this to
*@*.syntegra.net:
set n-list digest
As always, if you have problems with this mailing list, please use this
address to reach us list owners: *@*.syntegra.net
I just got my n364 two days ago and I am amazed. This machine is
fantastic! However I have a few questions that I am sure all of you
experts can answer for me.
1. Included were 6 disks that contain additional sounds and
RPPPR's(sales incentive). Wich one contains the factory presets?
2. When additional .pcg's are loaded where do they reside?(what bank
and number)
3. 2 of the 6 disks when loaded get no file error's but when I put them
into my computer I see the files.
4. Any information you think would be informative for a new 364 owner.
5. The GM bank has an sound called "glocken" instead of drums as is
mandated by the GM standard. Is something wrong?
My only complaint so far is that combi sounds can not be sequenced.
Thank you in advance for your responces. Have a great day
-Mike
At 14:33 30-7-98 -0700, you wrote:
> >I just got my n364 two days ago and I am amazed. This machine is
> >fantastic! However I have a few questions that I am sure all of you
> >experts can answer for me.
Finally somebody who says a positive word about the N364 again...
I am a very happy N264 user, and I don't like it that some people keep
complaining about features the N-series keyboards don't have.
> >1. Included were 6 disks that contain additional sounds and
> >RPPPR's(sales incentive). Wich one contains the factory presets?
I haven't had all 6, but my factory preset disk is clearly marked as
preset disk. You need the disk with initial.pcg and so on.
> >2. When additional .pcg's are loaded where do they reside?(what bank
> >and number)
Bank A and B (those are the RAM banks)
(Bank C and D are the ROM banks, with X3 presets)
> >3. 2 of the 6 disks when loaded get no file error's but when I put them
> >into my computer I see the files.
Are you are trying to load the right type of file ?
For example when there are only .SNG files on the disk, you should
select "Load Song"
> >4. Any information you think would be informative for a new 364 owner.
Try to load X3 patches, there are a whole lot of them.
(The N264/364 is 99,9% backward compatible with the X2/X3 series)
> >5. The GM bank has an sound called "glocken" instead of drums as is
> >mandated by the GM standard. Is something wrong?
Prg 10 should be "Glocken". My Yamaha TG-300 has also "Glocken" there.
> >My only complaint so far is that combi sounds can not be sequenced.
Yep, that's a pitty. Some more effects would be cool too...
But you can't have everything :-)
Greetings,
Fedde Bouwman
I've got an N264, which I also just recently bought. I'll try to answer
these questions as best I can...
1) The disk should be the one that says N364/N264 Music Workstation at
the
top of the disk label in large bold letters. It then lists a bunch of
contents:
Preload Program
Preload Combination
Demo Sequence
RPPR Patterns
These are all shown on the disk label.
2) Dunno - never tried it.
3) You're probably looking for the wrong type of files. The Nx64 usually
only looks for one type of file. See your advanced users reference (the
thicker of the two books): Page 183 for a way to fix this
4) Your keyboard rules - enjoy it!
5) No. The GM Drum kit works just fine. Track 10, usually... You can
set
up all standard MIDI stuff for any song bank by choosing the seqencer
mode,
selecting the appropriate song, hitting the [EDIT] key and going to page
8F.
Then press [^/YES] twice.
Now here's a question for everyone else. How come my 264 didn't come with
anything other than a disk containing the presets when I hear about
everyone
else getting these RPPR patterns and stuff?
Was I supposed to get them? Can I get them from anyone out there?
Later!
-B
At 02:33 PM 30/07/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >I just got my n364 two days ago and I am amazed. This machine is
> >fantastic! However I have a few questions that I am sure all of you
> >experts can answer for me.
> >2. When additional .pcg's are loaded where do they reside?(what bank
> >and number)
Whenever a new pcg is loaded into the n364 it will reside in program
bank A and B. Combinations will reside in combi bank A & B.
> >3. 2 of the 6 disks when loaded get no file error's but when I put them
> >into my computer I see the files.
When loading songs into your N364(PCG+SNG+PST) if the pst file(Contains
pattern data) is missing, it will report an error. This is no big deal tho
as all the sequencer data is in the .sng
> >4. Any information you think would be informative for a new 364 owner.
Dont rip the hair out of your head trying to figure out korgs wacked sysex
charts in the manuals :)
> >5. The GM bank has an sound called "glocken" instead of drums as is
> >mandated by the GM standard. Is something wrong?
Just a different name i think. The instrument should be the same.
> >My only complaint so far is that combi sounds can not be sequenced.
> >Thank you in advance for your responces. Have a great day
The N364 was made to sequence with combinations. It took me 2 months to
figure out how when i first got it tho:)
Here's what ya do:
in combi mode, find the combination you want to use. Then Click on "SEQ"
once there, click on "edit". Now scroll up to menu 8E and it'll ask you
for permision to copy the Combi to either tracks 1-8 or tracks 9-16. Choose
where you want it copied to and hit Ok.
Now your combination will be in the sequencer.
For some reason combinations that have less than 8 tibres still take up
8 channels in the sequencer. If you copied the Comination to channels 1-8 all
8 channels(1 through 8) will default to channel 1 for play. And likewise if
you copied it to channels 9-16 it will default to channel 9 for play.
To get around this and free up them empty channels that the combi isnt using,
simply select the unused track and press the left button 5 times-now asign it
to a channel other than 1 or 9 (I usually asign it to its own channel-keeps
things simple).
If you need help using the effect placements(to asign effects to channels
instead of all tracks) let me know.
Hi everybody,
For the moment, i've got a Roland jv1080, great as a solo synth, but
it's too complex and it deceives me as a multipart midi module.
So i've decided to sell my jv and now i want to buy a standalone
workstation, i've selected 2 synths : Korg N364 or Roland XP60.
If you know well both synths, please help me to make my choice.
My objective is to make raw GM sequence on the workstation and then put
the finishing touches on the sequence with a windows based sequencer
like Cubase.
regards,
Laurent
----------
From: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 1998 9:33 PM
To: SAMRATB; '*@* <*@*.syntegra.net>'
Subject: "New Love"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
I just got my n364 two days ago and I am amazed. This machine is
fantastic! However I have a few questions that I am sure all of you
experts can answer for me.
1. Included were 6 disks that contain additional sounds and
RPPPR's(sales incentive). Wich one contains the factory presets?
2. When additional .pcg's are loaded where do they reside?(what bank
and number)
3. 2 of the 6 disks when loaded get no file error's but when I put them
into my computer I see the files.
4. Any information you think would be informative for a new 364 owner.
5. The GM bank has an sound called "glocken" instead of drums as is
mandated by the GM standard. Is something wrong?
My only complaint so far is that combi sounds can not be sequenced.
Thank you in advance for your responces. Have a great day
-Mike
HEY MIKE!!!
Congrats on your new KEYBOARD!!
AS time goes by you will realise that the n364 is really good and has
immense sounds and a very cool architecture !!!! I have had it for a
year now ....and its shining !!!!
The KORG people loaded 2mb of new samples esp for Dance, Analog and Loops
in this compared to the X series and others !!!!
HEY !!!! BANK A is the best ............you can go www.synthzone.com
And get thousands of new SOUNDS !!!!!
And off course you can use COMBI in the sequencer......GO TO EDIT and
copy to COMBI.....
As time goes by and you get in to the architecture you will hear some
very cool sounds !!!!
HAVE FUN !!!!!
Its very simple :
If you are into ANALOG sounds and want realtime controls GO FOR ROLAND .
They have a killer BABY called the JP8000.
If you just want GM sounds plus the regular sounds with good quality
samples and clean effects with other features GO for KORG. If you want
the wortlds best acoustic sounds, wind, bass and drums go for.
Roland is NOT happening as far as drums and other family instruments are
concerned.
I have tried a XP50 and its just about OK ....
THE Eps, Basses, Drums, Pads and organs are really good on the Nseries
!!!!
>> > >My only complaint so far is that combi sounds can not be sequenced.
> > Yep, that's a pitty. Some more effects would be cool too...
> > But you can't have everything :-)
> >
I might be wrong, but you can easily put the combi's in sequencer mode.
Just go to sequencer mode , hit EDIT and then go to screen 8B or 8C or
something. it will ask you which combi to put in the sequencer. It is all
about putting the sounds on different tracks, but on the same Channel. So
in this way you can play 16 instruments by pressing just one key. Now I
thought this was really obvious, but maybe I didn't quite get the exact
problem here.
Now, I notice that very few of us are willing to share songs with each
other. How does everyone think about that. On our own website there is
only one person who put his songs up there ready for download. I am
willing to start putting things up for download as well. Who else is? Or
is this all about copyright stuff? I think we can learn immensly from the
way other people use combi's and effect settings and controller data. We
could for instance write a few lines about what is going on in the song
and how you use and change the settings. Let me hear your reactions,
buddies.
-Toon (Belgium)
> > Its very simple :
> > If you are into ANALOG sounds and want realtime controls GO FOR ROLAND .
> > They have a killer BABY called the JP8000.
But Korg also has an incredible synthesizer with great real-time control
thingies. I have seen and heard it once. It is called "Z1"
I think it is better than the
JP800 by Roland (remember that the jp8000 is 2 years old)
In my opinion, the sounds on the Korg are better (more natural) sounding than
on the XP (I use a N264 at Church and a XP-50 at home).
At 16:18 31-7-98 +0000, you wrote:
> >Its very simple :
> >If you are into ANALOG sounds and want realtime controls GO FOR ROLAND .
> >They have a killer BABY called the JP8000.
> >If you just want GM sounds plus the regular sounds with good quality
> >samples and clean effects with other features GO for KORG. If you want
> >the wortlds best acoustic sounds, wind, bass and drums go for.
> >Roland is NOT happening as far as drums and other family instruments are
> >concerned.
> >I have tried a XP50 and its just about OK ....
> >THE Eps, Basses, Drums, Pads and organs are really good on the Nseries
> >!!!!
I friend a my has a XP50. In my opinion the differences are:
Korg
- Better effects
- Much better synthesizer sounds (pads, leads, layer sounds, strange noises
etc)
- Better Drums
- More patches in RAM/ROM (936 !), and lots of patches on internet (from X3)
- Lots of combinations, which are very cool !
- Very suitable for live performance (due to combinations, and there are
nice performance patches)
- Good keyboard, very expressive
- Patches have great playability
- Suitable for ambient/dance/rock/funk music
Roland
- Better acoustic ('realistic') sounds, like sax, trompets, piano, church
organs
- More options like high/midpass filtering, resonance
- Better GM set
- Better suitable for writing songs then for live performance
- Suitable for orchestra and classical music
- More real-time controls, but there are mostly used as volume control =>
not interesting
- Larger samples (16 Mb ROM), the samples are of better quality
- Nice pianos
- Expansion boards
I agree that Korg' electrical piano, bass, drum, pad and organ patches are
better than those
of Roland. Roland' pianos are better though.
But you can't say which synthesizer is better, it is just a matter of taste.
Korg synthesizers sound fatter than Roland synths. Roland synthesizers have
much high freq.
in the patches (eg drums), some people like that very much.
I would be nice to have both a Roland and a Korg :-)
(so keep your JV-1080 and buy a N264 !)
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
The way to make your pads sound strange and counterplay the main melody
.........
I have done this a lot of times in the sequencer section ....
1)Assign two programs to the same channel (eg; Tr01 and Tr02 on Channel
1G)...
2)Take the program A65 Padanomic on Tr01 and pan it hard A or B and TUNE
the same Track in the EDIT section to a +7 ..........
3)Take the program C43 Bowen Wave on Tr02 panned hard A or B.....
have fun !!!!!
Off course you can !!!???
Go to edit and and then go to Copy to Combi .....
The snag is that the eeffects are copied as well.....so stuff like delay
chorus and and all will be affecting your drums bass etc ....
TRY using small combination and pan them well.....and use less effects or
genral stuff ...which can be applied throughout the tracks !!!!
----------
From: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List
Sent: Friday, July 31, 1998 6:21 PM
To: SAMRATB; '*@* <*@*.syntegra.net>'
Subject: Re: KORG vs ROLAND
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
At 16:18 31-7-98 +0000, you wrote:
> >Its very simple :
> >If you are into ANALOG sounds and want realtime controls GO FOR ROLAND .
> >They have a killer BABY called the JP8000.
I friend a my has a XP50. In my opinion the differences are:
Korg
- Better effects
- Much better synthesizer sounds (pads, leads, layer sounds, strange
noises
etc)
- Better Drums
- More patches in RAM/ROM (936 !), and lots of patches on internet
(from X3)
- Lots of combinations, which are very cool !
- Very suitable for live performance (due to combinations, and there are
nice performance patches)
- Good keyboard, very expressive
- Patches have great playability
- Suitable for ambient/dance/rock/funk music
Roland
- Better acoustic ('realistic') sounds, like sax, trompets, piano, church
organs
- More options like high/midpass filtering, resonance
- Better GM set
- Better suitable for writing songs then for live performance
- Suitable for orchestra and classical music
- More real-time controls, but there are mostly used as volume control =>
not interesting
- Larger samples (16 Mb ROM), the samples are of better quality
- Nice pianos
- Expansion boards
I agree that Korg' electrical piano, bass, drum, pad and organ patches
are
better than those
of Roland. Roland' pianos are better though.
But you can't say which synthesizer is better, it is just a matter of
taste.
Korg synthesizers sound fatter than Roland synths. Roland synthesizers
have
much high freq.
in the patches (eg drums), some people like that very much.
I would be nice to have both a Roland and a Korg :-)
(so keep your JV-1080 and buy a N264 !)
Greetz,
SAMRAT's reply
I have the highest respect for ROLAND stuff which is vintage ...as there
analog emulations are excellent!!!!!!!!
They have always made killer analog pads basses and eps and other sine
and wave saw stuff....stuff like the Jupiter, Juno Tr808, 909, SH etc....
I never liked the roland JV or the XP cause the samples are not the ones
that are suitable for dance a=mbient and tekno etc.....
Plus the architecture suffreerd as the there was a complete absense of
any realtime modulatio and frequency or cutoff or resosnance
control.............
Well that's all ...................
n the world ....the
architecture is superb ...............I heard demos of it
FOR ALL YOU I am attaching a file which ahs this SAX trumpet
piece.....never heard stuff like this .........THE Z1 is ABSOLUTELY
AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Check this out....this is not human .....sample + architecture
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[[ Z1LAYB~1.WAV : 1584 in Z1LAYB~1.WAV ]]
Hello people,
I want to ask you not to send attachments over the list again, many
people (like me) still use modems to get their mail, and if everyone
just posts attachments it will take ages to download the stuff and
give them a very high phonebill (at least it does in the Netherlands).
If you want people to look at or hear some file please put them on
an http server or ftp server and post the link in this list.
You can use ftp.imagica/pub/incoming as a place to put your
stuff. Or mail me the files and I'll put them there.
I didn't restrict the size of messages send to the mailing list because I can't
(the listserv is the light version), and I wanted this list to be an open list
without any moderation or something like that.
Please feel free to post any comments (I won't kick you off the list, hehe.. :)
Greetings,
Hero Idema
Hi i have a server you can use to send stuff about n-list ..so if you
want you can send files sounds sequences and everything you
want...relative to n - serie
ftp://digicolor.com.pe/N-list
Miguel Nishii
Email:*@*.com.pe
At 19:01 1998-07-31 +0200, Toon Theuwis wrote:
> >Now, I notice that very few of us are willing to share songs with each
> >other.
There are probably several reasons for that...
People who make a living on their music don't want to share music since it
might be ripped off. Even people who don't make a living on their music
might still not want risk somebody stealing their stuff. Some don't want to
spread their music since they don't think it's good enough, others don't
make complete songs very often, etc etc etc...
To everybody:
It would be interesting to hear pieces of your music even if the N264/N364
plays a minor roll in the instrument setup. Why not put a clip or two on
your homepage and post the address to this list?
A few people have already done that, like Kaliss, Joakim Lundberg and me.
Do like we have done! It's always interesting to hear what others have
composed!
Now, don't post your clips as mail attachments to this list! Nobody likes
to download large public attachments. As mentioned above, put the files on
your own homepage or one of the N-series ftp sites.
> >I am willing to start putting things up for download as well. Who else is? Or
> >is this all about copyright stuff? I think we can learn immensly from the
> >way other people use combi's and effect settings and controller data. We
> >could for instance write a few lines about what is going on in the song
> >and how you use and change the settings. Let me hear your reactions,
> >buddies.
I agree to what you are saying!
I would gladly put any music clips, SNG's, PCG's etc on my site if it was
larger. I only have 10 MB space, and that's barely enough for two
full-length mp3 songs.
As mentioned above, put your stuff on your own homepage (get one of those
free homepages if you don't already have one), or on the N-series ftp
sites, which are three at the moment.
For those of you who have music clips (.wav, .mp3, .commonformat), SNG's,
PCG's or something else you've done with or in conjunction with your
N264/N364, and have nowhere to put them, here are the current N-series FTP
sites:
1. ftp://ftp.imagica.net/pub/korg/
2. ftp://ftp.ncal.verio.com/pub/users/sad001/
3. ftp://digicolor.com.pe/N-list
Upload directory for site 1 is ftp.imagica.net/pub/incoming/
Use an ftp program to upload. Any web browser (Netscape, Lynx, ... ,
IExplorer) is fine for downloading.
At 22:52 1998-07-30 -0500, john brian garner wrote:
> >Now here's a question for everyone else. How come my 264 didn't come with
> >anything other than a disk containing the presets when I hear about
> >everyone else getting these RPPR patterns and stuff?
> >Was I supposed to get them? Can I get them from anyone out there?
KORG USA (and KORG Japan, I've heard?) had a promotional offer where you
got 6 disks and some other stuff if you bought an N264 or an N364. It was
only valid for US citizens, and the promotion offer is now over.
You can most likely buy those disks at KORG USA's site, www.korg.com.
At 14:07 1998-07-14 -0400, Kyle Collinson wrote:
> >OK, so the manuals say you have to go into sequencer mode to record
> >patterns and songs. Is there any way to record a song or pattern using
> >combinations?
This is an eternal problem with the N264/N364, X3, N1/N5, etc etc etc.
You can record songs and patterns using combinations, but not in a
straight-forward manner. A combination consists of up to 8 programs played
together. The sequencer has 16 tracks (and can infact be used as a 16
program combination).
If you want to use a combination in sequencer mode, you will have to copy
each program from the combination to its own separate track in the
sequencer. This is cumbersome, so the KORG people provided a function in
sequencer edit mode page 8E. With it, you can copy a combination to tracks
1 through 8 or 9 through 16 in the sequencer. If you copy to tracks 1
through 8, you will be able to play all the combination's programs by
playing on track 1 (i.e. midi channel 1). If you copy to tracks 9 through
16, you can play all the combination's programs by playing on track 9.
So far so good, but:
You can't use more than two combinations (i.e. occupying all 16 tracks) at
the same time in sequencer mode. Yes, you can if you have combinations
which use less than 8 programs, but you'll have to copy each program and
midi channel setting to the sequencer manually then.
The other problem is that if you copy the combination's effect settings
(can be done in sequencer edit mode page 7F) to the sequencer, then the
other programs in the other tracks will have to use those same settings.
Why? Read the appropriate section in the N264/N364 FAQ when it is released
(very soon now). The release will be announced to this list.
Hi all,
Here's part of a song that I wrote for a very good friend of mine. I gave
it to her as a birthday present.
The reason I am giving it to you fine people is because I think it is a
good example of how you can bring a whole orchestra and a choir in your
room only with your awesome Korg. This is only part of the song. Please
don't plagiarize, but you are welcome to use the combi. Have fun. I hope to
hear something from you as well. Let me know what you think.
Cheers,
Toon
Deleted: Lara.sng
An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were:
Content-Type: APPLICATION/OCTET-STREAM; NAME="Lara.sng"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980802131311.*@*.rug.ac.be>
Content-Description: Lara.sng (SNG -bestand)
Attachments:
Deleted: Lara.sng 304 bytes
Sorry,
I read those mails about posting the songs only on FTP sites, after I put
my song on this list as an attachment. WON'T happen again, I promise.
now Samrat,
I listened to your .wav file (which really took 5 minutes to download)
and I was impressed by the quality of the recording itself. how did you
manage to make such a wave file? I tried it once myself. I can hook my
Korg up to the computer with some cables, and I can make a recording with
my soundblaster, but there is so much noise on the background that it
seems as if there is a heavy rainfall in the background. Do you use any
particular software? I found a shareware site somewhere at Synthzone.com,
and it looked as if they had some interesting shareware for recording
.wav files. Please tell me
how you made that good sounding .wav file. The reason I'd like to know is
because I have a friend with a writable CD-Rom and if I have a good .wav
file, I can finally put my songs on CD.
cheers,
Toon
At 13:14 1998-08-02 +0200, Toon Theuwis wrote:
> >Here's part of a song that I wrote for a very good friend of mine.
> >The reason I am giving it to you fine people is because I think it is a
> >good example of how you can bring a whole orchestra and a choir in your
> >room only with your awesome Korg. This is only part of the song. Please
> >don't plagiarize, but you are welcome to use the combi. Have fun. I hope to
> >hear something from you as well. Let me know what you think.
Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant! Love that piece of music!
Kept increasing the volume on my amplifier all the time, so at the peak
part in the middle of the song, the speakers almost blew. :)
Thanks for showing us how grand orchestra-influenced music can be done in
the internal sequencer of an Nx64!! Impressive combi, too.
You forgot to mention that we have to use preload.pcg for the sounds,
though that's pretty obvious ofcourse.
At 13:30 1998-08-02 +0200, Toon Theuwis wrote:
> >I read those mails about posting the songs only on FTP sites, after I put
> >my song on this list as an attachment. WON'T happen again, I promise.
It's ok!
There isn't much of a problem with attachments as small as the one you
posted yesterday (10 kb). I mean, how often do people post a SNG or a PCG
to this list? Ok, a SNG can be rather large (>100 kb or something), and a
PCG is about 68 kb, but if you zip-compress it, it will shrink considerably.
Though, uploading the file(s) somewhere and post a link is preferable.
[Audio recording]
> >I can hook my Korg up to the computer with some cables, and I can make
> >a recording with my soundblaster, but there is so much noise on the
> >background that it seems as if there is a heavy rainfall in the background.
> >Do you use any particular software?
There are several ways to get a low-noise recording with a computer sound
card. In your case, it's most likely that your Soundblaster card is causing
the noise. You see, the hardware analog to digital converters (used when
recording) are of pretty low quality. Also, the analog to digital circuitry
(used for playback) is of quite low quality. If you have a Soundblaster
AWE64 Gold it's a bit better though.
To improve _output_ quality, make sure that you use "line-out" connector
when connecting the sound card's output to your amplifier, and not the
"speaker-out" connector. The "speaker-out" connector includes a lousy
amplifier to drive "computer speakers" which don't have amplifiers built in.
When recording, make sure to use the "line-in" connector and not the
"mic-in" connector. The latter is more or less a noisegenerator, atleast
for older Soundblaster cards.
There is a great way to get rid of noise no matter what sound card you use,
and that is to use an analytical denoiser program. With it, you first
analyse a recording of the sound card noise (i.e. you record from your
sound card without connecting any sound sources), and then let the program
use its analysed data to remove that same noise from your real recording.
For Windows-PC, I can recommend Sound Forge or Cool Edit for this purpose.
The easiest way to get clean audio recording/playback though, is to buy a
good sound card even if it can be a bit expensive.
Here's some cool songs that I converted into songs for the Korg
N-series. Song0 is the theme to Monty Python's Flying Circus (send
comments to *@*.umanitoba.ca ) Song1 is the Imperial March from
those Star Wars movies and song2 is the James Bond theme. I did NOT
transcribe these and take no credit for them. I just doctored them up.
ftp://ftp.imagica.net/pub/incoming/kulsongs.zip
It has occured to me that it is better to use joystick up or down instead
of the value slider to control effect intensity (prog/combi/seq edit mode
page 7A and 7C). It seems the value slider only has a few distinct levels
(20), while the joystick is more continuous (about 40 levels up, 40 down).
When using joystick+slider combined with each other (slider is offset,
joystick is relative to offset), it is possible to achieve a higher
resolution, but non-linear and cumbersome.
Did anybody else than me notice that when moving the value slider while
recording in an external sequencer, it is represented by the RPN Data
MSB/LSB midi controller couple (number 6 and 38)? Isn't that a bit odd,
since the RPN's in the Nx64 are for pitch bend sensitivity and tuning?
someone mentioned a few days ago of a list specificly for the n5. And they
posted a web address for it. Could that person please post this again?
Thanks in advance,
Mike
http://www.jvlnet.com/~cam/
Will try and check that BIT about about the joystick and the effects
....\
I primarily use the Joystick as a Modulation, Filter and Frequency
control !!!!
thanks
Its just that most of us ....at least I use a a PCG which has been
modified and then I seldom use the factory presets from bank C and D
............
Any one into Electronica and other dance stuff!!!???
Samrat Bharadwaj writes:
> > HEY !!!! BANK A is the best ............you can go www.synthzone.com
> > And get thousands of new SOUNDS !!!!!
I've been to SynthZone and they have a lot of stuff. But I never cound
find these thousands of new sounds. Can you tell me where in
www.synthzone.com the sounds are? I've been looking for a long time and
would like to get some.
John
At 06:57 1998-08-03 -0400, Schulz, John wrote:
> >I've been to SynthZone and they have a lot of stuff. But I never cound
> >find these thousands of new sounds. Can you tell me where in
> >www.synthzone.com the sounds are? I've been looking for a long time and
> >would like to get some.
Check the X3 pages that are linked there. I haven't been in the KORG
section of Synth Zone for ages though, so I don't exactly know what can be
found there (except a link to my N-page, hehe).
You won't find anything for specifically for the N364, but most of the
X3 and X5 PCG's can be loaded into the N364/264. Try following the
X3/X5/M1 links from SynthZone, you'll stumble into a PCG or 10
eventually...
There's loads of these around: be warned some are duplicates, some are
PCG's for specific songs that don't have any new sounds., some are not
very good at all, but then there are some really good new sounds amidst
the turmoil. Happy hunting!!
A good place to start is:
http://members.tor.shaw.wave.ca/%7Emarkr/korg/korg.html (The "Lots
More..." link goes to zips of dozens of PCG's)
Brian
> >----------
> >From: Schulz, John[SMTP:John.*@*.COM]
> >Sent: 03 August 1998 11:57
> >To: *@*.syntegra.net
> >Subject: Thousands of new sounds?
> >
> >Samrat Bharadwaj writes:
>> >> HEY !!!! BANK A is the best ............you can go www.synthzone.com
>> >> And get thousands of new SOUNDS !!!!!
> >
> >I've been to SynthZone and they have a lot of stuff. But I never cound
> >find these thousands of new sounds. Can you tell me where in
> >www.synthzone.com the sounds are? I've been looking for a long time and
> >would like to get some.
> >
> >John
> >
i rarely use the joystick and slider but, i do use an expression pedal
for effect control, vdf cutoff and of course... expression/volume
control.
---Samrat Bharadwaj - K12 <*@*.NIIT.CO.IN> wrote:
> >
> > Will try and check that BIT about about the joystick and the effects
> > ....\
> > I primarily use the Joystick as a Modulation, Filter and Frequency
> > control !!!!
> > thanks
> >
i guess i'm sorta into electronica and dance, more in the vein of
industrial, dark electro, ambient. one of my friends makes some pretty
nifty industrial style muzik and he uses an N364! i was surprised at
how well he can use it. i always thought the N was not totally ideal
for my particular style of music but this guy has proved me wrong and
he uses the factory presets alot but makes awesome "mini" combis in
the sequencer.
http://listen.to/EffEct47
mix and match them sounds!!! you'll get awesome results.
Thanks for the advise, Ken. Although I am a technology illiterate, I'll
spend the following weeks trying to figure out what you told me. But I
really appreciate the help.
About Lara's song: I gave this to my friend on a tape, and you can imagine
how crappy that sounded. I mean, you know what it feels like: You made a
nice song and all your friend will hear is this noisy tape recording.
Feels terrible. She liked the song, though.
I don't know yet whether I'm going to pread the song on the net yet. I'll
think about it for a while. This part you heard is actually near the end
of the song. The beginning is pretty soft (because Lara is a very sweet
girl) and near the end the song becomes as bombastic as a John Williams
movie soundtrack (because Lara is also a very lively and energetic girl)
I wrote it about a year ago (in november) when i had my Korg for 3 months.
Actually I never took a single piano lesson. I have to admit that i can't
read sheet music. I play totally by ear. This korg is actually the first
sythesizer I have. before that I was still playing a very cheap keyboard
with those tiny little keys(I bought it in 1989, a Yamaha). But eventually
my fingers became too big, so I needed something bigger. and I bought my
Korg in August last year. (i am 22,
Studying English and Dutch litterature in Belgium) I really REALLY like
the n364. I think the sounds are just amazing. Only thing is that I would
like some more real time controllers like the Z1 or the Roland JP8000.
But I am the last person to complain about the qualities of the N364.
About the songs from other Korg owners that I have heard so far:
I liked the KULSONGS that I downloaded yesterday. Especially the
Bond-theme. But all those MIDI things are so stiff. I like sparkling music
with free rhythm. Not necessarily Jazz, but just music to which rhythm
isn't a restiction. I also like the songs (I forgot who made them) they
were the first to be put up on the FTP site a couple of months ago:
Luna-Moon, etc (3 songs) I thought those were really nice, but it wasn't
free enough. Now this sounds more like I am talking about my musical
preference than Giving my opinion on certain things. ( I never use step
recording, I play everything with my own hands) But no matter what,
I still like to listen to other people's music. I learn a lot from every
song i hear.
On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > There are several ways to get a low-noise recording with a computer sound
> > card. In your case, it's most likely that your Soundblaster card is causing
> > the noise. You see, the hardware analog to digital converters (used when
> > recording) are of pretty low quality. Also, the analog to digital circuitry
> > (used for playback) is of quite low quality. If you have a Soundblaster
> > AWE64 Gold it's a bit better though.
> >
> > To improve _output_ quality, make sure that you use "line-out" connector
> > when connecting the sound card's output to your amplifier, and not the
> > "speaker-out" connector. The "speaker-out" connector includes a lousy
> > amplifier to drive "computer speakers" which don't have amplifiers built in.
> >
> > When recording, make sure to use the "line-in" connector and not the
> > "mic-in" connector. The latter is more or less a noisegenerator, atleast
> > for older Soundblaster cards.
> >
> > There is a great way to get rid of noise no matter what sound card you use,
> > and that is to use an analytical denoiser program. With it, you first
> > analyse a recording of the sound card noise (i.e. you record from your
> > sound card without connecting any sound sources), and then let the program
> > use its analysed data to remove that same noise from your real recording.
> > For Windows-PC, I can recommend Sound Forge or Cool Edit for this purpose.
> >
> > The easiest way to get clean audio recording/playback though, is to buy a
> > good sound card even if it can be a bit expensive.
At 08:16 1998-08-03 -0700, Kaliss wrote:
> >i rarely use the joystick and slider but, i do use an expression pedal
> >for effect control, vdf cutoff and of course... expression/volume
> >control.
I neved did see an expression pedal. Does it have one or more pedals with
different assignable funtions or? Somehow it seems to me that a pedal would
be a bit hard to operate with precision, unless you're a real good car
driver ofcourse... :)
Hi N-series fans,
I was wondering if any of you have any experience with something:
The difference between Cubase and Cakewalk as it pertains to the
N-series (I have an N364 and an i5m).
What's the easiest to use with the synths? Anyone have any ideas
about harddisk recordign. Which program is actually best in that
department (weighed against the midi-thing).
Thanks!
Ann Elisabeth
http://home.sol.no/~aeno/
At 16:37 1998-08-04 +0000, Ann Elisabeth Nordbo wrote:
> >I was wondering if any of you have any experience with something:
> >
> >The difference between Cubase and Cakewalk as it pertains to the
> >N-series (I have an N364 and an i5m).
> >
> >What's the easiest to use with the synths? Anyone have any ideas
> >about harddisk recordign. Which program is actually best in that
> >department (weighed against the midi-thing).
Well, if you compare the latest versions of Cakewalk Pro Audio 7 and Cubase
3.5x VST, there is not really much difference in what you can do. I think
Cakewalk is more flexible, especially considering its built-in script
language CAL, but Cubase has more built-in functions of which some are nice
to have.
Both are relatively easy to use, and have good midi and audio features.
Cubase had a bit of an edge over Cakewalk when it came to audio, but not
anymore. You can add good quality effects to the recorded audio with both
programs. Even in realtime with Cakewalk, but I guess that's possible with
Cubase too.
One advantage with Cakewalk I can think of right now, is that it's possible
to draw midi controller data by hand with the mouse. This can be very
valuable at times. On the other hand, Cubase's detailed midi data edit view
is better than Cakewalk's since it is part graphics, part data. Cakewalk's
is data only, though more versatile than Cubase's.
Cakewalk has one wonderful thing: the SysEx view window. In here you can
put up to 256 different SysEx messages per song, and they can selectively
be sent automatically to the midi port of your choice each time you load
the song. I always use it to select the N364 mode. If I want the N364 in
sequencer mode for one song, I simply put the required SysEx message in a
bank in the SysEx view, tell it to use the midi port where I've connected
my N364, and set it to auto. This way, whenever I load that particular
song, my N364 will be put in seq mode. You can send program banks and other
stuff in the same way.
All in all, I've experienced more problems with Cubase than with Cakewalk.
I find Cubase a bit annoying, but that's me. ;)
If you can't decide, then go for the cheaper one. :)
I have found a sound editor for many MIDI devices including N264:
SoundDiver from Emagic
http://www.emagic.de/english/updates/sodiwin.html
I have downloaded the demo version and tested the Ensoniq SQ2 module and
works great !
Unfortunately, demo version does not include an editor for N264/N364,
but complete version does. Does anybody know how it works for N264?
Is this a good choice for an studio set with several MIDI devices?
Regards,
Alejandro.
Hi,
Sorry it took me so long to reply. The format of the PCG file is
pretty much listed in the tables at the end of the Reference guide of
the N264/N364. The midi tables match the contents of the PCG files.
I would be glad to answer any specific questions. My windows
programming is moving forward, but not quite as fast as I would like. I
will swing my efforts into a higher gear once autumn is over (about 4
months or so). Until then I have a lot to learn about Windows
programming.
Greg
Alejandro Del_Hoyo_Menchaca wrote:
> >
> > Hi all!!
> > I'm working also on a tool related to the N264/N364, and I would like to
> > know if Greg Banineau could share the PCG Hex format with me.
> > Does anybody knows Gregs e-mail address?
> > Anyone has addicional documentation (not included in manual pages)
> > related to the N-Series?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Alejandro.
> >
> > ********************************************
> > Alejandro del Hoyo Menchaca
> > Intelligent Services Networks and Security
> > Avantel, S.A.
> > Monterrey, N.L.
> > Mexico.
> > ********************************************
> >
> > >From *@*.syntegra.net Wed Jul 15 07:57:25 1998
>> > >Received: from imagica.net (mail.syntegra.net [195.99.38.21])
>> > > by mail.syntegra.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA01305;
>> > > Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:52:24 +0200 (MET DST)
>> > >Received: from MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET by MAIL.SYNTEGRA.NET (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
> > release
>> > > 1.8c) with spool id 0291 for *@*.SYNTEGRA.NET; Wed,
> > 15 Jul
>> > > 1998 16:52:24 +0200
>> > >Received: from smtp.tninet.se (tjatte.tninet.se [195.100.94.70]) by
>> > > mail.syntegra.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA01291 for
>> > > <*@*.syntegra.net>; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:51:00 +0200
> > (MET DST)
>> > >Received: (qmail 25282 invoked by uid 65537); 15 Jul 1998 16:49:00
> > +0200
>> > >Received: from du129-228.luth.tninet.se (HELO burken) (195.100.228.129)
> > by
>> > > tjatte.tninet.se with SMTP; 15 Jul 1998 16:49:00 +0200
>> > >Mime-Version: 1.0
>> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> > >Message-ID: <199807151451.*@*.syntegra.net>
>> > >Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:48:31 +0200
>> > >Reply-To: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List <*@*.syntegra.net>
>> > >Sender: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List <*@*.syntegra.net>
>> > >From: Kenneth Jonsson <*@*.TNINET.SE>
>> > >Subject: Re: win programming
>> > >To: *@*.syntegra.net
>> > >In-Reply-To:
> > <Pine.HPP.3.95.980713092921.*@*.salleURL.ed u>
>> > >
>> > >At 09:36 1998-07-13 +0100, Jordi Contreras Sune wrote:
>> > >
>>> > >> Hello, I hope this mail not to be too much out of topic, but i would
>>> > >>like to know if someone developing any program for the N has already
> > tried
>>> > >>something for receiving sysex via MIDI. I am trying it with windows
> > NT,
>>> > >>but i am stuck (its the very first time i program for windows, so i
> > have
>>> > >>had many problems).
>> > >
>> > >It's not out of topic, since it's related to the N. :)
>> > >
>> > >I'm not a programmer, but I've heard that the MIDI support in Windows
> > NT
>> > >can be troublesome. Perhaps somebody else knows exactly why?
>> > >
>> > >Talk with Greg Babineau (author of PCG2txt). He's experimenting with
> > SysEx
>> > >via Windows (hey, Greg, you reading this? :) ).
I'm working on the sysex MIDI stuff right now. Unfortunately I'm also
learning to code for Windows. The windows programming is a job in
itself, but putting all of the subtle complexities of MIDI into the
picture just makes things that much tougher. I am willing to look at
any specific questions. I will try to keep up with the list. Any
questions can be placed here. That way anyone that is interested can
follow.
Greg
Jordi Contreras Sune wrote:
> >
> > Hello, I hope this mail not to be too much out of topic, but i would
> > like to know if someone developing any program for the N has already tried
> > something for receiving sysex via MIDI. I am trying it with windows NT,
> > but i am stuck (its the very first time i program for windows, so i have
> > had many problems).
> > I downloaded both PST and pcg2txt, which are very good, maybe the ones
> > who wrote them could help me. Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Jordi
Toon Theuwis wrote:
Very well done. This is inspiration to continue my work on a patch
editor. Thanks for posting this. Maybe when I have a thicker skin I
will put some of my work up here.
Greg
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Here's part of a song that I wrote for a very good friend of mine. I gave
> > it to her as a birthday present.
> > The reason I am giving it to you fine people is because I think it is a
> > good example of how you can bring a whole orchestra and a choir in your
> > room only with your awesome Korg. This is only part of the song. Please
> > don't plagiarize, but you are welcome to use the combi. Have fun. I hope to
> > hear something from you as well. Let me know what you think.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Toon
Go to synthzone ....
Go to the KORG page ...
Go to any page with mention for x1 X2 X3 X5D Nseries,
Go to Cobweb...that's my page ....you can get some new sounds !!!!
Other than that you can finds lots others in the Homepages which lie in
the links of the direct pages in synthzone ...
TRY!!!!!
hey any Ambient trance people !!!! in there !!!
I have been into this for a while , squeezing every pint of jiuce from my
N 364!!!!
I have been using all new sounds ....some tweaked and some created fresh
by me !!!!
I have looking for exchange and comments !!!
Anyone !!!???
Samrat!!
Thre is one Editor on KENETH JONNSON's page the guy who rund this forum
....
But I downloaded the ZIP file and then tried loading A PCG file ...and
then the programs hangs !!!
Off course microsoft is the father of hanging babies!!!
Check the program out!!!!
At 10:11 1998-08-05 +0000, Samrat Bharadwaj - K12 wrote:
> >Thre is one Editor on KENETH JONNSON's page the guy who rund this forum
> >....
> >But I downloaded the ZIP file and then tried loading A PCG file ...and
> >then the programs hangs !!!
> >Off course microsoft is the father of hanging babies!!!
> >Check the program out!!!!
You mean the PCG/PST editor. It is in a very early beta stage, and might
stay so for a while, since Peter lost his source code.
Finally, the "N264/N364 FAQ and Tips" has been released!
You can download it from my site:
http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/files/n-faq.zip
There are two versions: one in RTF (Rich Text Format) format, and one in
text-only format. The RTF file can be read by several text reading
programs. Try MS Word or Wordpad if you're on a win95 system.
I've also added a PCG by Samrat Bharadwaj on my site. You can find it in
the download area.
killer - thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Jonsson [mailto:*@*.TNINET.SE]
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 9:48 AM
To: *@*.syntegra.net
Subject: N264/N364 FAQ released!
Finally, the "N264/N364 FAQ and Tips" has been released!
You can download it from my site:
http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/files/n-faq.zip
There are two versions: one in RTF (Rich Text Format) format, and one in
text-only format. The RTF file can be read by several text reading
programs. Try MS Word or Wordpad if you're on a win95 system.
I've also added a PCG by Samrat Bharadwaj on my site. You can find it in
the download area.
Hey congratulations on the FAQ and tips on the N364!!!!
Looks like we have quite a forum up here!!!!
all you Korg heads...I have been seriously digging the
architecture available to us inside the KORG
N364...which is more or less like like the X1,X2, X3 and the
O1W and the old daddy M1....The Advanced Integration !!!
My music is a blend of ambient and electronica and all the
added bits of Jungle and Drum n bass etc.... so i love ANALOG!!
The .PCG you have downloaded will have some new Pads, Basses
EPs, Drums and other Sine and Saw sample sounds with realtime
modulation and filter control thru the joystick....
the reason I have'nt used the slider or footswitch ...cause
they are redundent in the sequencer section ....
Most of the sounds will have modulation sweep in with time or aftertouch
...
Then instead of pitch bending I have used the + and - to control high
frequencies....added with a dash of Phaser and delay ...
I guess this is as Analog as we can get with the N-baby!!!
When calling the sounds in the Sequencer into...
1)set bend range to 00
2)Pan the track to PRG (you will hear little fine
left to right crossovers)
3)the joystick + and - will control frequency
4)Add A little phaser to add get more ANALOG!!!
But then its all upto you to use the sounds however you like ....
HAVE FUN !!!!
please email me and let me know about the sounds !!!!
*@*.niit.com
*@*.com
You can pick up more .PCG at my homepage
www.internet-studio.com/cobweb
I am thankful to Kenneth Jonnson for giving me this oppurtunity ...
THANKS!!!!
Hi ! I'm Kei , I lived in hong kong,
I ve just bought N364. After I bought N364 back home , I found that the
user guide is too hard for me to understand ( maybe I don't have good
enough level ).
I ve tried hard to so solve the problem about how to real-time
recording....and now I undstand how to do it but I 'm still can't find
out how to record song pattern .....
I think that is the most important thing for making a song . Can anyone
tell me how to record pattern? (simply )and I didn't know how to record
drums sound( without the drum machine ) accurately ( i made the sound
wrong beat ) I think that there is a fuction to correct your wrong beat
.
Thanks for answer my question!
I'd love to post some of my music or my band's music; I use the N364 a lot on
it. I'm just not too knowledgable about audio streaming/data compression
stuff. I tried to get RealAudio for our browser, but it wouldn't download
right for some reason.
I'm just finishing up doing demos for my band's new album--we used to N364 for
the drums and bass since our demo studio only has 8 tracks (and our bass
player isn't very tight yet).
Here's a great way to help drums sound more realistic: run them through the
room reverb. Set the reverb time fairly close to minimum (around 0.08 seconds
or so), the high damping fairly high, the predelay fairly low, and the ER
level around 70 or so. Then set the wet/dry ratio to about 70/30 or more.
You may want to roll off some of the treble as well. All in all, it helped
our drum parts sound pretty real (I had our drummer play them into the
sequencer using an electronic kit, too). It makes the drums sound more like a
cohesive drum set instead of a lot of individual sounds.
So if anyone wants to educate me on this data compression stuff, I'd be happy
to try to post some songs!
Cheers!
Alan
I plugged an expression pedal into the korg...granted, it wasn't a korg
pedal...but it just wasn't smooth. It was real hard to control in a musical
way. You got about halfway down and the sound just disappeared. Does the
Korg pedal do this? Maybe I need one of those. My pedal works fine for doing
wha-wha stuff, and controlling the rotary speaker effect, which is pretty much
all I do with it anyway.
Hey alan !!!
HI!!!!
The two common compression methods used are Real and <PRG!!!
MPEG is better cause the compression is more but the quality remains CD
like allmost!!!!
Real is GOOD but the highs are compromised!!!!
You can get encoder of these off the net from a lot of places and players
too.....
You need not put a player on your site but the end users machine should
have the players....
You can visit my homepage ....most of it is still bieng constructed!!!
There are some MOEG files and the quality is really good ....small
files......
MPEG compresses 12 or 8 or 6 times ....
I hope this helps !!!!
Bye
Samrat
www.internet-studio.com/cobweb
First of all, my n264 makes wierd background noises according to the
effect used in the p/g/c (i.e., a shuffling noise that goes up and down
on the two effects flanger and ens. hall.) Also, when I setup Cakewalk
to use the keyboard no sound comes out of the headphones (on the n264.)
I tried setting the devices to no longer use the n264, no result. The
same when I disconnected the cables. The only time it plays is when a
song is being played on Cakewalk.
You can find Samrat Bharadwaj's analog-influenced PCG and my replacement of
program A00 "N264 Piano" on my site:
http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/
Look in the download section.
At 23:04 1998-08-08 -0400, Alan ? wrote:
> >I'd love to post some of my music or my band's music. I'm just not too
> >knowledgable about audio streaming/data compression stuff.
It seems this question ought to appear in the next update of the FAQ... ;)
First record the music from your N364 to your computer, preferably in
16-bit 44.1 kHz stereo and as a .wav file. Several programs can do this.
Next, get hold of an mp3 compressor:
http://www.mp3.com/software/encoders.html
Select one that is freeware and works with your computer. I guess most of
them are for PC. Good choice for Windows95 seems to be CDex - which can
create an mp3 directly from an audio CD track or from an external .wav file.
Read the manual of the program you have downloaded, and then compress the
.wav you recorded earlier to an .mp3. Try to select 128kbit/s (or higher)
compression bitrate.
You should now have an .mp3 that can be played with an mp3 player such as
WinAMP or MacAMP.
Try the above, and if it doesn't work, feel free to ask again.
Cheers!
Hi there!
I 'm new in here ,i ve just bought n364 and did n't know how to play
piano before,
so everytime I use my n364 to record the sound , I can't follow the
beat accuratly
is there any function in seqencer to correct them after record or can
help me play them
accurate?
THANKS!
It's definitely needed to follow the clicks : dit- dah -dah -dah -dit :-)
If you're using cakewalk you can fix the correct beat and notes with "piano
roll" or use "Quantize" options. I don't really capable editing quantize
with N -sequencer, I think Kenneth know about this.,...
over to you Kenneth :-)
NJ
|--- Norman Johansyah-----|
|--- Online Visual Design --|
Sketchsite | The Uncharted Flash "Anything with Flash on it"
http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/6211/sketchsite/uncharted.html
Sketchsite "One step after printed matter"
http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/6211/sketchsite/sketchsite.html
maito:*@*.net.id
icq # 1626124
-----Original Message-----
From: Kei <*@*.COM>
To: *@*.syntegra.net <*@*.syntegra.net>
Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 4:05 PM
Subject: help!
> >Hi there!
> >
> >I 'm new in here ,i ve just bought n364 and did n't know how to play
> >piano before,
> >
> >so everytime I use my n364 to record the sound , I can't follow the
> >beat accuratly
> >
> >is there any function in seqencer to correct them after record or can
> >help me play them
> >
> >accurate?
> >
> >THANKS!
if there is somebody here who wants to ask in spanish let me know it
because i speak spansh so you can understand better (can you dig it me?)
i understand english but can't write good english...sorry friends...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------***
Mariano Latorre Aracena
e-mail: *@*.uchile.cl
*@*.uchile.cl
WWW: http://cipres.cec.uchile.cl/~malatorr
There is a quantise function in the N364. It can adjust the notes to be on the
beat, where that beat might be 1/4 or 1/8 notes or triplets, or other
possibilities.
Norman Johansyah wrote:
> > It's definitely needed to follow the clicks : dit- dah -dah -dah -dit :-)
> > If you're using cakewalk you can fix the correct beat and notes with "piano
> > roll" or use "Quantize" options. I don't really capable editing quantize
> > with N -sequencer, I think Kenneth know about this.,...
> >
> > over to you Kenneth :-)
> >
> > NJ
> >
> > |--- Norman Johansyah-----|
> > |--- Online Visual Design --|
> > Sketchsite | The Uncharted Flash "Anything with Flash on it"
> > http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/6211/sketchsite/uncharted.html
> > Sketchsite "One step after printed matter"
> > http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/6211/sketchsite/sketchsite.html
> > maito:*@*.net.id
> > icq # 1626124
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kei <*@*.COM>
> > To: *@*.syntegra.net <*@*.syntegra.net>
> > Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 4:05 PM
> > Subject: help!
> >
>> > >Hi there!
>> > >
>> > >I 'm new in here ,i ve just bought n364 and did n't know how to play
>> > >piano before,
>> > >
>> > >so everytime I use my n364 to record the sound , I can't follow the
>> > >beat accuratly
>> > >
>> > >is there any function in seqencer to correct them after record or can
>> > >help me play them
>> > >
>> > >accurate?
>> > >
>> > >THANKS!
At 12:32 1998-08-12 -0400, LATORRE ARACENA MARIANO wrote:
> >if there is somebody here who wants to ask in spanish let me know it
> >because i speak spansh so you can understand better (can you dig it me?)
Please keep all discussions on this list in English. If asking questions in
another language, then please ask somebody talking the same language in
private, i.e. not through this list. No hard feelings! :)
> >i understand english but can't write good english...sorry friends...
Your English is perfectly understandable, and that's what counts! :)
Cheers!
I just bought the N264 and am having a ball figuring out how it can
do everything except get me to heaven :-) I also just joined the
list, so I figured I'd briefly introduce myself. Hi all!
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short
not to.
Yesterday I bought a Korg G4 rotary speaker emulator.
It is a great combination with my N264 !
Using preset Combi B-36, I have an awesome organ.
(with rotary effect disabled on N264, and less reverb)
So if you are in to Hammond organs, try the G4 effect !
(If somebody is very interested, maybe I can make two MP3's,
one with and one without G4)
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
Holland
At 11:32 1998-08-10 -0500, Kyle Collinson wrote:
> >First of all, my n264 makes wierd background noises according to the
> >effect used in the p/g/c (i.e., a shuffling noise that goes up and down
> >on the two effects flanger and ens. hall.)
Please give an example of a program/combination that causes this weird
noise for you. If the program is in a PCG other than preload.pcg, please
state which.
Please also specify exactly what noise you are referring to.
This way people on this list are able to check if that noise is common to
all N264/N364 machines.
> >Also, when I setup Cakewalk to use the keyboard no sound comes out of
> >the headphones (on the n264.) I tried setting the devices to no longer
> >use the n264, no result. The same when I disconnected the cables.
> >The only time it plays is when a song is being played on Cakewalk.
If you disconnect the midi cables and play locally on the keyboard, do you
then get sound in the headphones? I'm having difficulties understanding
exactly what you mean...
Hmm... wait a minute... do you get sound from outputs 1, 2, 3 or 4? If you
don't, then check global menu page 3B. If LOCAL is set to OFF, then switch
to ON. Now you will get sound from all ports when playing the keyboard.
Cakewalk automatically switches LOCAL to OFF (as default - it is
configurable) when it starts. Instead it echoes everything you play on your
N264's keyboard back to your N264. This might seem stupid, but it is
actually very smart. But that isn't the topic here.
Hope this helps!
I am interested in such a comparison.
Can I download it from somewhere?
Regards,
Joakim Lundberg
--------------------------------------------------------
Skanska Data AB Joakim Lundberg
182 25 DANDERYD IT Operations and Engineering
SWEDEN +46-8-*
http://www.skanska.com mailto:joakim.*@*.se
--------------------------------------------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: Fedde Bouwman
[mailto:f.s.*@*.UTWENTE.NL]
Sent: den 15 augusti 1998 14:16
To: *@*.syntegra.net
Subject: Korg G4 effect for N264
Yesterday I bought a Korg G4 rotary speaker emulator.
It is a great combination with my N264 !
Using preset Combi B-36, I have an awesome organ.
(with rotary effect disabled on N264, and less reverb)
So if you are in to Hammond organs, try the G4 effect !
(If somebody is very interested, maybe I can make two
MP3's,
one with and one without G4)
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
Holland
At 14:39 17-8-98 +0200, you wrote:
> >I am interested in such a comparison.
> >Can I download it from somewhere?
This week I don't have time to make mp3's (exams).
Maybe next week...
It will probably be put on Kenneth' site.
Greetz,
Fedde
I have a problem with my korg n264.
I can hear a constant kind of background fuzz noise in my headphones when
playing the keyboard. You really can't hear it when playing sounds but in any
program or combi its there, louder for those sounds that have a lot of rez.
type of effects in them. you can also hear the fuzz go through the effect
processors for that particular program or combi, you can hear it in the
sequencer too. :(. Do you have any idea, I never really noticed it this much
before, I've had my keyboard for about 1.2 years now.
hi all!
I've been looking around the net for the promotional disks that Korg
is offering if you purchase an "n" keyboard between now an whenever the
program expires. the FAQ sayed that the disks are available for sale at
the Korg site, but i couldn't find them there. does anyone know where i
can get my hands on these disks or the files on these disks?
thanks.
Lawrence.
Hello,
I will be on holiday from the 21st of August till the 5th of September,
now you'll probably think, "who cares, who's this bozo anyway".
Well, this list is running on a server which I maintain. Unfortunately
an upgrade of this machine is scheduled somewhere in my vacation.
The server will be upgraded from a x86-based server to a Sun Sparc
based server, which means the binaries of the listserver won't be
compatible. So I need to recompile them. But since I'm not there
I can only do this when I'm back from vacation. Until then the server
will probably not respond and might even reject mail you send.
I will try to move the upgrade to a later time, preferably when I'm back
from vacation, to make the transition as smooth as possible.
Any questions can be mailed to me or Kenneth.
Well...
See you all laters...
Hero Idema
Hero Idema Syntegra Internet Services
*@*.net http://www.syntegra.nl
+31-(0)79-* *@*.nl
First of all, I've started a new section of my site
(http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/) for people developing N-specific
software. Check the Developer's Corner section. Thanks to Greg Babineau for
the example C++ code.
Also, a new version of Greg Babineau's PCG2TXT.EXE has been put in the
download section. New version is 1.3 alpha.
Cheers!
WELL PHASERS and Flangers CAUSE THIS FLOOR NOISE ...I REALLY LIKE IT WITH
analoG SOUNDS ...BUT THEN IF YOU DON'T IT CAN BE GOT RID OF BY CHANGING
THE EFFECTS OR REDUCING THE SEND RETURN RATIO !!!
----------
From: KORG N264/N364 Mailing List
Sent: Monday, August 17, 1998 8:10 PM
To: SAMRATB; '*@* <*@*.syntegra.net>'
Subject: Fuzz noise
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
I have a problem with my korg n264.
I can hear a constant kind of background fuzz noise in my headphones when
playing the keyboard. You really can't hear it when playing sounds but
in any
program or combi its there, louder for those sounds that have a lot of
rez.
type of effects in them. you can also hear the fuzz go through the
effect
processors for that particular program or combi, you can hear it in the
sequencer too. :(. Do you have any idea, I never really noticed it this
much
before, I've had my keyboard for about 1.2 years now.
At 15:37 1998-08-17 -0700, ikball boy wrote:
> > I've been looking around the net for the promotional disks that Korg
> >is offering if you purchase an "n" keyboard between now an whenever the
> >program expires. the FAQ sayed that the disks are available for sale at
> >the Korg site, but i couldn't find them there. does anyone know where i
> >can get my hands on these disks or the files on these disks?
I guess the FAQ could be more specific about this...
You can find the list of KORG's disks on this URL:
http://www.korg.com/cards.htm
The disks are:
XSD11 - X/i-Series Sound Alternatives Pgm Disk
XSD12 - X/i-Series House and Funk Pgm Disk
XSD13 - X/i-Series Pop Performances Pgm Disk
KSSD8 - X-Series Power Disk (Drums) *
KSSD9 - X/i-Series Organ Disk *
The disks marked * might not be the same disks that were in the offer, but
I guess so.
The sixth disk - RPPR Drums - is the only N-specific one, and doesn't seem
to be for sale!?
At 22:10 1998-08-17 +0200, Anthony Bonavera wrote:
> >I can hear a constant kind of background fuzz noise in my headphones when
> >playing the keyboard. You really can't hear it when playing sounds but in
any
> >program or combi its there, louder for those sounds that have a lot of rez.
> >type of effects in them. you can also hear the fuzz go through the effect
> >processors for that particular program or combi, you can hear it in the
> >sequencer too. :(. Do you have any idea, I never really noticed it this much
> >before, I've had my keyboard for about 1.2 years now.
Do you have an example of a program or combi that has this fuzz noise?
It might be that your N264 has become defect in some way. It could also be
your headphones - perhaps the cable?
Hey analog heads !!
I have been tweaking the N architecture for a while now and getting some
very eye poping results ...some very MONDO sounds!!! And real time
modulation and filters ..ok enuff praise ...I need help!!
I need some help on realtime panning options ...like a swell sounds which
starts on the right and then goes left ..and so ....i don't want depend
on effects ...ANY ideas!!
Thanks !!!
Samrat
William orbit is the man !!!
> > I need some help on realtime panning options ...like a swell sounds which
> > starts on the right and then goes left ..and so ....i don't want depend
> > on effects ...ANY ideas!!
By my knowledge it is impossible to pan from left to right without using
FX. It would be nice if you could find a way to do it anyway. let me know.
thanks and good luck.
Toon
It wouldn't be line noise from your power outlet, would it? I had a major case of
that with my n364, and I bought a surge protector with rfi/emi filtering... that
fixed it quite well. If that's not the problem, then I'd say it's a defect.
later,
Rick
Kenneth Jonsson wrote:
> > At 22:10 1998-08-17 +0200, Anthony Bonavera wrote:
> >
>> > >I can hear a constant kind of background fuzz noise in my headphones when
>> > >playing the keyboard. You really can't hear it when playing sounds but in
> > any
>> > >program or combi its there, louder for those sounds that have a lot of rez.
>> > >type of effects in them. you can also hear the fuzz go through the effect
>> > >processors for that particular program or combi, you can hear it in the
>> > >sequencer too. :(. Do you have any idea, I never really noticed it this much
>> > >before, I've had my keyboard for about 1.2 years now.
> >
> > Do you have an example of a program or combi that has this fuzz noise?
> >
> > It might be that your N264 has become defect in some way. It could also be
> > your headphones - perhaps the cable?
Hello,
While I'm on, I've got a problem also...
Three keys on my N364 are starting to annoy me. They make a sticky sound (like
adhesive being taken off of a surface) whenever I pull back after a key hit. It is
the second highest C and the surrounding B and D that are doing it. I can also feel
it from its movement when it happens, and that is even more annoying. I'm suspecting
that there is a pad or something comming loose, and the adhesive side is catching
something on the way up.
Is something comming loose inside? Does it get covered by the warranty? Am I crazy?
later,
Rick
At 07:02 PM 20/08/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >While I'm on, I've got a problem also...
> >
> >Three keys on my N364 are starting to annoy me. They make a sticky sound (like
> >adhesive being taken off of a surface) whenever I pull back after a key
hit. It is
> >the second highest C and the surrounding B and D that are doing it. I can
also feel
> >it from its movement when it happens, and that is even more annoying. I'm
suspecting
> >that there is a pad or something comming loose, and the adhesive side is
catching
> >something on the way up.
> >
> >Is something comming loose inside? Does it get covered by the warranty?
Am I crazy?
Never had that problem before. Have you spilt anything(coffee/pop ect) on the
n364? This may be the reason for the stickey keys.
Okay, are these disks somewhere online ?
-] > I've been looking around the net for the promotional disks that Korg
-] >is offering if you purchase an "n" keyboard between now an whenever the
-] >program expires. the FAQ sayed that the disks are available for sale at
-] >the Korg site, but i couldn't find them there. does anyone know where i
-] >can get my hands on these disks or the files on these disks?
-]
-] I guess the FAQ could be more specific about this...
-]
-] You can find the list of KORG's disks on this URL:
-]
-] http://www.korg.com/cards.htm
-]
-] The disks are:
-]
-] XSD11 - X/i-Series Sound Alternatives Pgm Disk
-] XSD12 - X/i-Series House and Funk Pgm Disk
-] XSD13 - X/i-Series Pop Performances Pgm Disk
-] KSSD8 - X-Series Power Disk (Drums) *
-] KSSD9 - X/i-Series Organ Disk *
-]
-] The disks marked * might not be the same disks that were in the offer, but
-] I guess so.
-]
-] The sixth disk - RPPR Drums - is the only N-specific one, and doesn't seem
-] to be for sale!?
At 10:11 5/08/98 +0000, you wrote:
> >Thre is one Editor on KENETH JONNSON's page the guy who rund this forum
> >....
> >But I downloaded the ZIP file and then tried loading A PCG file ...and
> >then the programs hangs !!!
> >Off course microsoft is the father of hanging babies!!!
> >Check the program out!!!!
> >
I have the same problem.
Exacly the same. I had started was my problem but I've tested the program in
more computers.
Please check it!!
Yes,
I have some keys that make some noise when you press them and then move
left and right. a sort of screeching noise. It hasn't reached the point
yet where it is bothering me.
toon
I just downloaded and tried Ken's replacement for the N264 sound, and
it's great. I like it a lot better than the original, which struck
me as a little tinny, and definitely an octave too high. For a
wonderful mellow sound that nevertheless has enough "kick" to fit a
wide range of musical style, try putting it on a combi with A91, the
DW-8000 EP. Add a nice Hall effect and just a touch of stereo delay,
and OOOOH! Nice!
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short
not to.
I haven't spilled any liquids on it... in fact, I keep it covered all the time, so I
don't think it would be caused by any of the common elements.
I wish I could describe the sound and the feel... maybe if you take a piece of tape,
roll it up so both sides are sticky, put it on the tip of your finger, lightly touch
a surface, then pull away.... that's kinda how it is...
thanks,
Rick
Steve Wallis wrote:
> > Never had that problem before. Have you spilt anything(coffee/pop ect) on the
> > n364? This may be the reason for the stickey keys.
I just read the FAQ and was pleased to see one about building a
damper pedal. This wasn't a problem for me, since the store I
bought my N264 from threw in the pedal at no extra charge. However,
I'm now interested in the assignable pedal/sw, with which I would be
able to do things like turn effects on and off, etc. I haven't seen
anything in either the manuals or the faqs about this pedal. I'm
handy with a soldering iron and know more than a little bit about
switches etc.; is it possible to build my own, and if so, what do I
need to do?
Thanks,
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
I don't have ADD. My brain has a multi-tasking,
multi-threading operating system.
I dunno if they fit your "something"
[[ POP80.05R : 4618 in POP80.05R ]][[ JUPITE~1.PCG : 4619 in JUPITE~1.PCG
]]
Deleted: POP80.05R
An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were:
Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="POP80.05R"
Content-disposition: attachment; filename="POP80.05R"
Content-transfer-encoding: base64
Deleted: JUPITE~1.PCG
An attachment was deleted from this message. The original MIME headers for the attachment were:
Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="JUPITE~1.PCG"
Content-disposition: attachment; filename="JUPITE~1.PCG"
Content-transfer-encoding: base64
Attachments:
Deleted: POP80.05R 247 bytes
Deleted: JUPITE~1.PCG 253 bytes
Well, you can pan from midi using controller 10...
Another way to do it is to create a program using two oscillators. Put the
same multisample in each and pan one hard left and the other hard right. Then
give them different amplitude envelopes. Of course, then the panning is a
fixed thing, not really real-time controllable.
you could also set up a combi that panned one sound hard right and on another
channel the same sound hard left, then disable the controller features on one
channel and enable them on the other. By setting the controller pedal input
to expression, you could then fade in and out the enabled one. Of course,
this will only pan from far to one side back to center, which would seem more
annoying than anything else.
This is a tough one. It seems like there would be a workaround, but I can't
think of how to do it.
Alan
Hi everybody!! I was just wondering if anyone of you had different non-preset pianos that will be able to send me for my n264?
What I want is a real good piano saound that can give my compositions that "something" they need.
Please let me know if somebody has them. Thanx a lot!
CHHG
I don't mind if you have a new stuff , but I don't think it's a good idea by
sending it through this mailing list.
Please consider that some of us ( incl. myself ) uses a low bandwidth
connection.
Thanks,
NJ
|--- Norman Johansyah-----|
|--- Online Visual Design --|
Sketchsite | The Uncharted Flash "Anything with Flash on it"
http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/6211/sketchsite/uncharted.html
Sketchsite "One step after printed matter"
http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/6211/sketchsite/sketchsite.html
maito:*@*.net.id
icq # 1626124
-----Original Message-----
From: Samrat Bharadwaj - K12 <*@*.NIIT.CO.IN>
To: *@*.syntegra.net <*@*.syntegra.net>
Date: Sunday, August 23, 1998 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: Piano info
> >
> >Hey check these out !!!
> >I dunno if they fit your "something"
> >[[ POP80.05R : 4618 in POP80.05R ]][[ JUPITE~1.PCG : 4619 in JUPITE~1.PCG
> >]]
> >
> >
> > Hey check these out !!!
> > I dunno if they fit your "something"
> > [[ POP80.05R : 4618 in POP80.05R ]][[ JUPITE~1.PCG : 4619 in JUPITE~1.PCG
> > ]]
> >
As someone else pointed out, it's not good netiquette to send
attachments to a full list like this. A couple of better ways to do
this would have been (a) go ahead and send the attachments, but send
them only to the person who posted the question; (b) point the
questioner and the rest of us to either a web site or an ftp site
where the files could be downloaded.
Also, it would have been a good idea to include some documentation
with the file to let someone know whether you're giving a single
voice, an entire set, or whatever.
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short
not to.
I've seen a lot of talk about Cakewalk, both on the Korg sites and
here. I use Noteworthy Composer (www.ntworthy.com) and have found it
to be both inexpensive and incredibly powerful. I'm wondering if
anybody else here has used it, and how you think it compares?
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short
not to.
At 11:54 1998-08-21 +0200, Werner Van Belle wrote:
> >-] > I've been looking around the net for the promotional disks that Korg
> >-] >is offering if you purchase an "n" keyboard between now an whenever the
> >-] >program expires. the FAQ sayed that the disks are available for sale at
> >-] >the Korg site, but i couldn't find them there. does anyone know where i
> >-] >can get my hands on these disks or the files on these disks?
> >-]
> >-] I guess the FAQ could be more specific about this...
> >-]
> >-] You can find the list of KORG's disks on this URL:
> >-]
> >-] http://www.korg.com/cards.htm
> >-]
> >-] The disks are:
> >-]
> >-] XSD11 - X/i-Series Sound Alternatives Pgm Disk
> >-] XSD12 - X/i-Series House and Funk Pgm Disk
> >-] XSD13 - X/i-Series Pop Performances Pgm Disk
> >-] KSSD8 - X-Series Power Disk (Drums) *
> >-] KSSD9 - X/i-Series Organ Disk *
> >-]
> >-] The disks marked * might not be the same disks that were in the offer, but
> >-] I guess so.
> >-]
> >-] The sixth disk - RPPR Drums - is the only N-specific one, and doesn't seem
> >-] to be for sale!?
> >
> >
> >Okay, are these disks somewhere online ?
Well, even though they probably are copyrighted, you can most likely find
most of the material on these disks on PCG sites for the X3. The only disk
that is N-specific is the RPPR Drums disk. This one is not to be found
anywhere online, as far as I know.
At 13:16 1998-08-21 +0200, Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé wrote:
> >I have the same problem.
> >Exacly the same. I had started was my problem but I've tested the program in
> >more computers.
> >
> >Please check it!!
As mentioned before, the PCG editor by Peter Lazarus that's on my site is a
very early beta. Work is being done right this minute on that program. A
new, improved beta which is both more stable and rich of features is going
to be released in a short while.
The software developers are warming up, and things are moving forward.
At 23:17 1998-08-21 -0500, Rick Bell wrote:
> >I haven't spilled any liquids on it... in fact, I keep it covered all the
> >time, so I don't think it would be caused by any of the common elements.
> >
> >I wish I could describe the sound and the feel... maybe if you take a piece
> >of tape, roll it up so both sides are sticky, put it on the tip of your
> >finger, lightly touch a surface, then pull away.... that's kinda how it is..
I tried to stick a finger under the keys to feel the contact surface, but
found that to be physically impossible, eventhough I have the thinnest
fingers on earth. ;)
I guess it's some kind of rubber. Perhaps it is glued to the plastic
surface underneath. It might be that it was badly glued on that three-key
spot you mentioned, so that the the rubber contact surface follows the keys
a bit.
I remember the good (ehm.. bad) old days when I had a Yahama PSR400
keyboard. The key suspension was really awful, solely consisting of soft
rubber pads that were so weak that they fell apart after less than two
years. This made the keys hang down, so I had to have it repaired. It was
dead awful expensive. The point? Well, if you still have your warranty,
then have the dealer take a look at it.
At 12:21 AM 23/08/98 +0000, you wrote:
> >
> >Hey check these out !!!
> >I dunno if they fit your "something"
> >[[ POP80.05R : 4618 in POP80.05R ]][[ JUPITE~1.PCG : 4619 in JUPITE~1.PCG
> >]]
whoever made that jupiter pcg, GOOD JOB!
I love them sounds, Got any other pcg's
like that? :)
regards,
Steve Wallis
*@*.net
Hi,
I am planning to buy a Korg 130. I was wondering if there is a group
which is dedicated for i30. If there is one I would like to subscribe to it.
Please let me know.
regards,
Chandra Murali
Hey first Indian on the List ....me too !!!!
The I-30 is good as far as accompany and lil rthymic stuff is required
....it has good painos organs and Wholesome family instruments ....as a
pro keyboerd the I series is not too hot and then the lack of a
workstation is a lil bother ....
for live performance and accompny its one of the best choices !!!!
ciao
samrat
HEY thanks man !!!!
I created most of the new sounds !!! jus that my top cursor is konked off
so I cannot rename them ....some were edited after I downloaded some PCGs
were downloaded from the NET !!!
I am still working on em .....more Analog madness will shortly be
arriving !!!
Will keep you informed !!! thanks again !!!!!
The architecture inside rocks man !!!!...........
Ciao
Samrat
*@*.niit.co.in
Hi everybody!
I've been on the list for some monthes just watching, but i decided its
time to participate. So here are my questions:
-I read sometimes that on the net there are lots of Patches,many for the
X3
that work on the N364.But...what exactly is a patch?
A PATCH IS SET OF PARAMETERS WHICH SHAPE THE BASIC AND ADVANCED
CHARACTERISTICS OF A SAMPLE . A PATCH IS A PROGRAM !
- I mostly use my keyboard to compose and i find Korg's sound terrific,
but
the internal sequencer....(Someday i will get courage and put my songs on
a
page...).Now i want to do sequencing on the computer. Is cakewalk the
best
software for this? (i know its a subjective question, but i would like to
hear your opinions.)
CAKEWALK, MOTU, any MIDI sequencer will do the JOB!!!
- My soundcard is an old Logitech and i want to change it for a good one.
Would a soundblaster do the work or i should go to something like a
Soundcanvas, which would give me lots of new sounds? All the soundcards
have compatibility with the N364?
ANY SOUNDCARD ....but go dor the PRO ones ....The best ones are EVENT
ELECTRONICS
TURTLE BEACH
SESSION 8
- What is the best way to record my music on the computer?in Wave format?
Which program would do it? I have a demo version of Cooledit.
WAVELAB2.0
COOLDEIT PRO
SAW PLUS
PROTOOLS(MAC it's the best of the best)
Sorry to bother you with these questions that for sure have already been
asked, but i dont have anyone else with as much experiense as many of you
have.
Thank very much for your questions,
Beny
HEY I made them ....most of them ...and some are tweaked and edited from
internet downloads !!!
Have funs !!!
Ciao
Samrat!!!
*@*.niit.co.in
On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Steve Wallis wrote:
> > At 12:21 AM 23/08/98 +0000, you wrote:
>> > >
>> > >Hey check these out !!!
>> > >I dunno if they fit your "something"
>> > >[[ POP80.05R : 4618 in POP80.05R ]][[ JUPITE~1.PCG : 4619 in JUPITE~1.PCG
>> > >]]
> >
> > whoever made that jupiter pcg, GOOD JOB!
> > I love them sounds, Got any other pcg's
> > like that? :)
where did you find it?
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Steve Wallis
> > *@*.net
> >
-------------------------------------------------------------------------***
Mariano Latorre Aracena
e-mail: *@*.uchile.cl
*@*.uchile.cl
WWW: http://cipres.cec.uchile.cl/~malatorr
Hi everybody!
I've been on the list for some monthes just watching, but i decided its
time to participate. So here are my questions:
-I read sometimes that on the net there are lots of Patches,many for the X3
that work on the N364.But...what exactly is a patch?
- I mostly use my keyboard to compose and i find Korg's sound terrific, but
the internal sequencer....(Someday i will get courage and put my songs on a
page...).Now i want to do sequencing on the computer. Is cakewalk the best
software for this? (i know its a subjective question, but i would like to
hear your opinions.)
- My soundcard is an old Logitech and i want to change it for a good one.
Would a soundblaster do the work or i should go to something like a
Soundcanvas, which would give me lots of new sounds? All the soundcards
have compatibility with the N364?
- What is the best way to record my music on the computer?in Wave format?
Which program would do it? I have a demo version of Cooledit.
Sorry to bother you with these questions that for sure have already been
asked, but i dont have anyone else with as much experiense as many of you
have.
Thank very much for your questions,
Beny
> > -I read sometimes that on the net there are lots of Patches,many for the X3
> > that work on the N364.But...what exactly is a patch?
A program or voice. "Patch" is an old word for it; Ensoniq calls it
a voice, Korg calls it a program. I call it more fun than anybody
should be allowed to have with one instrument :-)
> > - I mostly use my keyboard to compose and i find Korg's sound terrific, but
> > the internal sequencer....(Someday i will get courage and put my songs on a
> > page...).Now i want to do sequencing on the computer. Is cakewalk the best
> > software for this? (i know its a subjective question, but i would like to
> > hear your opinions.)
I haven't tried Cakewalk, so I can't comment. I use NoteWorthy
Composer. You can download a test-drive copy from www.ntworthy.com
and registration is only in the neighborhood of $40. It's a
full-featured program that includes beaming, editable lyrics, easy
ability to insert things like guitar chords, grace notes, you name
it, and the front end is so easy even an adult can use it (at 45
years old I don't consider myself an adult...) It can save files in
its own format or standard MIDI format so you can slap the file on a
floppy disk and pump it into your Korg and play it through the Korg
sequencer. If you use Windows 95 or later the 32-bit version also
allows long file names. For recording, it provides several
predefined rhythm files to provide a time base for it to transcribe
your notes properly, or you can record your own rhythm file (I have
several that I've created). It does an excellent job of
transcribing, and when you print it allows you to fine-tune the size
of both the lyric font and the staves, so you can get just the fit
you want on each page. I love it.
> > - My soundcard is an old Logitech and i want to change it for a good one.
> > Would a soundblaster do the work or i should go to something like a
> > Soundcanvas, which would give me lots of new sounds? All the soundcards
> > have compatibility with the N364?
As long as a sound card has a MIDI connector it should be compatible.
I have the Soundblaster AWE64 and the voices ("patches" :-) that are
in it are top quality; I can also plug the output of my N264 into the
Line In jack and use it as a simple amplifier.
> > - What is the best way to record my music on the computer?in Wave format?
> > Which program would do it? I have a demo version of Cooledit.
NoteWorthy Composer records off your keyboard in standard MIDI
format. You can then save it as a MIDI file, or you can save it as
NWC's own file format (saves a little disk space, but MIDI files are
more portable). I've seen some programs that require you to provide
your own time base using this or that note on the keyboard and
keeping your own rhythm; this is one of the things I like about NWC,
it gives you a steady beat both for your own benefit and for it to do
its thing, thus freeing both hands to play the music and not have to
worry about it.
> > Sorry to bother you with these questions that for sure have already been
> > asked, but i dont have anyone else with as much experiense as many of you
> > have.
I'm brand new to the N264, but I've been doing computer-geek stuff
like this for years. Most recently, I was doing these same things
with an Ensoniq KS-32. It was okay, but I don't like the weighted
keys and the Korg has many more voices and gives me much more control
over them. Basically, as long as you are using a sound card and a
keyboard that can both handle the MIDI standard, you're in business.
The disk drive in the N264 is a BIG plus over the Ensoniq, though.
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short
not to.
Hi all :
Can u tell me how to make different sound with my n364 ?
I feel that the default sounds is useless because many many is same like
the same !
Can n364 creat new sound or I should use another think to do this ?
or somewhere can download some data to input in n364?
and after i download it , how can I load it in to n364 ?
oh ,too many questions ,sorry !
Thankx alot !
Hi fellas,
I have an urgent question and I need to know the answer as soon as
possible because I have a performance on Thursday afternoon. (Tomorrow !!)
My damper pedal broke today. No problem so far because it actually was
only a cheap one. One that doesn't have the sensitivity. Just "all" or
"nothing" (if you know what I mean) The problem is that I don't know if I
should buy one that DOES have the "sensitivity" because I don't know if
the Korg N364 will respond to it. The controller data will only give 127
(on) or 0 (off). It is on page 126 of the reference guide. I'd like one
like those on real piano's, one that if you only press it half way, the
sustain only last for a shorter while. Can any of you tell me if the Korg
n364 only responds to "on" and "off" data from the damper or are there
many scales or proportions in between. The last kind of damper pedal is
more expensive and I'd feel stupid if I bought one for nothing.
If you know the answer don't hesitate to mail back because I'm going to
buy one tomorrow morning.
Thanks a million.
Toon
At 18:05 26-8-98 +0200, you wrote:
> >Hi fellas,
> >
> >I have an urgent question and I need to know the answer as soon as
> >possible because I have a performance on Thursday afternoon. (Tomorrow !!)
> >
> >My damper pedal broke today. No problem so far because it actually was
> >only a cheap one. One that doesn't have the sensitivity. Just "all" or
> >"nothing" (if you know what I mean) The problem is that I don't know if I
> >should buy one that DOES have the "sensitivity" because I don't know if
> >the Korg N364 will respond to it. The controller data will only give 127
> >(on) or 0 (off). It is on page 126 of the reference guide. I'd like one
> >like those on real piano's, one that if you only press it half way, the
> >sustain only last for a shorter while. Can any of you tell me if the Korg
> >n364 only responds to "on" and "off" data from the damper or are there
> >many scales or proportions in between. The last kind of damper pedal is
> >more expensive and I'd feel stupid if I bought one for nothing.
> >
> >If you know the answer don't hesitate to mail back because I'm going to
> >buy one tomorrow morning.
> >
> >Thanks a million.
> >
> >Toon
As far as I know is the N264 damper pedal input only 2 state.
So buy I cheap one. I would advise to buy a large pedal, with a part that
can be put under your foot. I have a Roland damper pedal, which does the
job OK.
Greetz,
Fedde Bouwman
Since programs are in the same format as .wav files, is there any way
to import them into the N?
Dear Toon:
I have tried many pedals with my N264, and even have made some of my own to get that personal "feel". However, I am deeply regretful to tell you that this babe, like most other keyboards, does not respond to damper sensitivity. (well, if somebody will just listen to the common cry of the people, and get some real response on this babe...) but don't take my obseration for granted... the sensitive pedal may just be the feel that you are looking for!
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
On 8/26/98, at 6:05 PM, Toon Theuwis wrote:
> >Hi fellas,
> >
> >I have an urgent question and I need to know the answer as soon as
> >possible because I have a performance on Thursday afternoon. (Tomorrow !!)
> >
> >My damper pedal broke today. No problem so far because it actually was
> >only a cheap one. One that doesn't have the sensitivity. Just "all" or
> >"nothing" (if you know what I mean) The problem is that I don't know if I
> >should buy one that DOES have the "sensitivity" because I don't know if
> >the Korg N364 will respond to it. The controller data will only give 127
> >(on) or 0 (off). It is on page 126 of the reference guide. I'd like one
> >like those on real piano's, one that if you only press it half way, the
> >sustain only last for a shorter while. Can any of you tell me if the Korg
> >n364 only responds to "on" and "off" data from the damper or are there
> >many scales or proportions in between. The last kind of damper pedal is
> >more expensive and I'd feel stupid if I bought one for nothing.
> >
> >If you know the answer don't hesitate to mail back because I'm going to
> >buy one tomorrow morning.
> >
> >Thanks a million.
> >
> >Toon
At 14:54 26/08/98 +0800, you wrote:
> >Hi all :
> >
> >Can u tell me how to make different sound with my n364 ?
> >I feel that the default sounds is useless because many many is same like
> >the same !
> >Can n364 creat new sound or I should use another think to do this ?
> >or somewhere can download some data to input in n364?
> >and after i download it , how can I load it in to n364 ?
> >
> >oh ,too many questions ,sorry !
> >
> >Thankx alot !
> >
> >
Sam
Where in hell (:) ) are your .PCG and .SNG in your web??
I can't download them 'cos my browser doesn't find them.
TIA
Rodri
At 11:32 10/08/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >First of all, my n264 makes wierd background noises according to the
> >effect used in the p/g/c (i.e., a shuffling noise that goes up and down
> >on the two effects flanger and ens. hall.) Also, when I setup Cakewalk
> >to use the keyboard no sound comes out of the headphones (on the n264.)
> >I tried setting the devices to no longer use the n264, no result. The
> >same when I disconnected the cables. The only time it plays is when a
> >song is being played on Cakewalk.
> >
> >
At 14:54 26/08/98 +0800, you wrote:
> >Hi all :
> >
> >Can u tell me how to make different sound with my n364 ?
> >I feel that the default sounds is useless because many many is same like
> >the same !
> >Can n364 creat new sound or I should use another think to do this ?
Yes, you CAN. Simply look for EDIT PROGRAM MODE in your reference manual
> >or somewhere can download some data to input in n364?
Kenneth's Page is a good place to start. Some data and lots of links.
(you're wellcome Ken ;) )
> >and after i download it , how can I load it in to n364 ?
Just press [DISK] button, select what you want to load with the [PAGE +] button
and load it.
Bye
Grok.
At 11:32 10/08/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >First of all, my n264 makes wierd background noises according to the
> >effect used in the p/g/c (i.e., a shuffling noise that goes up and down
> >on the two effects flanger and ens. hall.) Also, when I setup Cakewalk
> >to use the keyboard no sound comes out of the headphones (on the n264.)
> >I tried setting the devices to no longer use the n264, no result. The
> >same when I disconnected the cables. The only time it plays is when a
> >song is being played on Cakewalk.
> >
If I've understood you (my English level :((). I think the problem is you
haven't selected a track in Cakewalk (sometimes happens). Or, more probably,
one other thing.
When youhave your Nx64 conected to your computer via MIDI, it's switched ON
and you start CAKEWALK. Your Nx64 turns its keyboard off. So it can receive
MIDI messages, but if you play there's no souns. Solution?? Easy, go to
Global settings. I can't remember the exact page, but one of them is about
that (look reference guide), some help friends...I can't remember.
And the next time will happen again...Solution: Swicth On your Nx64 after
start CAKEWALK.
Bye
Grok
Problems between me and my EUDORA have made I posted here some private
messages and reply others and...well lots of annoying stuff.
Sorry.
Rodri
Kyle Collinson writes:
> > Since programs are in the same format as .wav files, is there any way
> > to import them into the N?
Programs couldn't possibly be in the same format as wav files. I don't
know much about the internal format of an Nx64 Program but I do know
this. It's a set of instructions for the instrument to reproduce a
particular sound based on such things as pitch, envelope, effects
settings and Multisounds. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here. A
Program is most likely formatted as some kind of static database record
which is not viewed over time but just sets up the instrument once and
then it's done. The way you use a Program is to load it into your
instrument. It then sets up the instrument to get ready to make a sound
and then the instrument just sits there... waiting for you to hit a key
to make a sound. The Program is done.
A wav file is formatted as a list of waveform amplitudes from one moment
to the next of a given sound. The sound can be simple or very complex
and change over time. A wav file can contain anything from a simple
short single sound (which could be used in a loop by a sampler) to a
complete 75 piece orchestra playing all four movements of Beethovens
5th. A wav file is a recording. The way you use a .wav file is to look
at it's contents at regular intervals and move a speaker to a position
specified by the contents at that time. Most people use some kind of
software to do this for them. As the software runs through the file, the
speaker moves in such a way as to reproduce the original recorded sound.
There are different rates used for looking at wav files. One common rate
is 44.8KHz (44.8 KiloHertz). That means that the software gets a new
piece of data from the wav file 48,000 times every second and dumps it
out to the speaker as it goes. The wav file is not done until the sound
has stopped.
Now one note. Maybe you were saying Programs but thinking Multisounds.
Multisounds are the same type of "recorded" waveform as you find in wav
files (although I don't know for sure that they are at all in the same
format). Multisounds are recordings of various base sounds selected by
Korg that represent a good mix of many possible sounds that a musician
might want to play and hear. What a Program does is tell the Nx64 how to
play back one of those built in Multisounds.
To answer your question: No. You can't import wav files into an Nx64
because the Multisounds are stored in ROM (Read Only Memory, that means
you can't write to it). Also, as far as I know, the only way to get
access to a Multisound at all is to have the Nx64 play it. You can't
dump it to a floppy and you can't send it out over the MIDI port. It's
one of those top secret things Korg likes to keep from us lowly end
users. Multisounds (and how to use them) are, after all, at the root of
the wicked cool "fat" sound that Korg is well known for.
Hoping this clears up a few things for you,
John
does anyone understand this?
-----Original Message-----
From: Rodrigo Borrego Bernabe [SMTP:*@*.USAL.ES]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 1998 6:34 AM
To: *@*.syntegra.net
Subject: Please sorry.
Problems between me and my EUDORA have made I posted here some private
messages and reply others and...well lots of annoying stuff.
Sorry.
Rodri
I think it is called "The Korg Syndrome". If you spend more than 36 hours
on your Nx64 without sleeping, you feel the urge to talk nonsense.
:)
Toon
On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, David Young wrote:
> > does anyone understand this?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rodrigo Borrego Bernabe [SMTP:*@*.USAL.ES]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 1998 6:34 AM
> > To: *@*.syntegra.net
> > Subject: Please sorry.
> >
> > Problems between me and my EUDORA have made I posted here some private
> > messages and reply others and...well lots of annoying stuff.
> >
> > Sorry.
> > Rodri
Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official
N-Series website...I mean it would have everything. FAQs, PCG's, a place
to put new songs, contributions, downloads. whaddya think? I'm a graphic
designer and need a nice "portfolio" and since I own the fine machine
and have been rather disappointed by Korg's support of it, why not? So
before I sit down and put it together I need to hear a unanimous "YAY"
and an information base (i.e. y'all will have to help me gather info and
such.)
-Umang
> > Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official
> > N-Series website...I mean it would have everything. FAQs, PCG's, a place
> > to put new songs, contributions, downloads. whaddya think? I'm a graphic
> > designer and need a nice "portfolio" and since I own the fine machine
> > and have been rather disappointed by Korg's support of it, why not? So
> > before I sit down and put it together I need to hear a unanimous "YAY"
> > and an information base (i.e. y'all will have to help me gather info and
> > such.)
Put me down for one big "YAY"...
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short
not to.
ter moves like mad !!!
Thanks for writing back....hers a .PCG I had made a while ago ...MOSTLY
ANALOG stuff!!!!
Check it out ...lemme know !!!
Ciao
Samrat!!!
[[ JUPITE~1.PCG : 4119 in JUPITE~1.PCG ]]
Werner Van Belle wrote:
> >
> > ??????
> >
> > -]
> > -] Since programs are in the same format as .wav files, is there any way
> > -] to import them into the N?
> >
> > is this ?
> >
> > I dont think programs are the same format as .wav files if you ask my
> > silly opinion.
> >
> > Werner,-
Well, progs and .wavs not directly the same format, but according to the
basic guide, progs are "PCM Waveforms," the most widely used format in
wav files. The differences are almost exactly the same as that of
n-exclusive songs and standard midi files. Anyway, here's a suggestion
for Peter Lazarus...maybe the next version of PST Manager could support
this...
Does anyone know what a cent is? IN the master tune section of the global
pararameters you can adjust the tuning of the instrument or the scale in cent steps
around 440Hz. What is the value of a cent?
Me too :-))
-] > Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official
-] > N-Series website...I mean it would have everything. FAQs, PCG's, a place
-] > to put new songs, contributions, downloads. whaddya think? I'm a graphic
-] > designer and need a nice "portfolio" and since I own the fine machine
-] > and have been rather disappointed by Korg's support of it, why not? So
-] > before I sit down and put it together I need to hear a unanimous "YAY"
-] > and an information base (i.e. y'all will have to help me gather info and
-] > such.)
-]
-] Put me down for one big "YAY"...
-] Dave Washburn
-] http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
-] When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short
-] not to.
Sorry, but .wav files and .sng files are like chalk and cheese. No conversion
possible or worth the effort.
Peter
Kyle Collinson wrote:
> > Werner Van Belle wrote:
>> > >
>> > > ??????
>> > >
>> > > -]
>> > > -] Since programs are in the same format as .wav files, is there any way
>> > > -] to import them into the N?
>> > >
>> > > is this ?
>> > >
>> > > I dont think programs are the same format as .wav files if you ask my
>> > > silly opinion.
>> > >
>> > > Werner,-
> > Well, progs and .wavs not directly the same format, but according to the
> > basic guide, progs are "PCM Waveforms," the most widely used format in
> > wav files. The differences are almost exactly the same as that of
> > n-exclusive songs and standard midi files. Anyway, here's a suggestion
> > for Peter Lazarus...maybe the next version of PST Manager could support
> > this...
There's a big "YEP" from me too.
sounds like a great idea. One forum for all the stuff about the Nx64
with songs, PCG's, ideas, ideas to create cool sounds, use effect settings
in a way nobody else did before. Why didn't anyone think of this before.
I'm in
Toon
On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Umang K Patel wrote:
> > Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official
> > N-Series website...I mean it would have everything. FAQs, PCG's, a place
> > to put new songs, contributions, downloads. whaddya think? I'm a graphic
> > designer and need a nice "portfolio" and since I own the fine machine
> > and have been rather disappointed by Korg's support of it, why not? So
> > before I sit down and put it together I need to hear a unanimous "YAY"
> > and an information base (i.e. y'all will have to help me gather info and
> > such.)
> >
> > -Umang
> >
lederman wrote:
> >
> > Hi everybody!
> >
> > I've been on the list for some monthes just watching, but i decided its
> > time to participate. So here are my questions:
> >
> > -I read sometimes that on the net there are lots of Patches,many for the X3
> > that work on the N364.But...what exactly is a patch?
Well, I'm not sure, but I think that it's a set of songs or sound fx.
> > - I mostly use my keyboard to compose and i find Korg's sound terrific, but
> > the internal sequencer....(Someday i will get courage and put my songs on a
> > page...).Now i want to do sequencing on the computer. Is cakewalk the best
> > software for this? (i know its a subjective question, but i would like to
> > hear your opinions.)
Cakewalk is the easiest to use that I know of, but the most detailed
that I know of is Finale. Here's a tip: goto the MIDI section in
Control Panel and set the "Single Instrument" to MPU-401. Make sure
that MIDI cables are hooked from the Nx64 to the CPU. Now, all MIDI
will be played with your N's cool effects!! Oh, yeah, and unless you
want to hear just one track, set it in sequencer mode. This works GREAT
with video games that use General MIDI timbres.
> > - My soundcard is an old Logitech and i want to change it for a good one.
> > Would a soundblaster do the work or i should go to something like a
> > Soundcanvas, which would give me lots of new sounds? All the soundcards
> > have compatibility with the N364?
I would suggest Diamond's Monster Sound 64. It's great for recording
(hook a cord with a headphone jack on both ends from the N to the CPU,
you'll probably need an adapter.) Anyway, the Monster Sound 64 is a
dedicated sound card that uses a PCI bus, so it processes ALL sound and
lets the computer focus on graphics, which speeds up framerates in
games.
> > - What is the best way to record my music on the computer?in Wave format?
> > Which program would do it? I have a demo version of Cooledit.
Any program that records will do the job. Like I said, about the cord
from the headphone slot on the N to the recording slot on the CPU. As
far as editing, ID Software used CoolEdit to make the sounds in Quake,
so I guess you're pretty good off.
> > Sorry to bother you with these questions that for sure have already been
> > asked, but i dont have anyone else with as much experiense as many of you
> > have.
> >
> > Thank very much for your questions,
> >
> > Beny
That's all for now.
Just one word: YAY!
(you asked for it, right? )
" Bless the Lord, O my soul, and all that is within me; bless His holy name."
Psalm 103:1
Agape, Dallas Chang
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
On 8/27/98, at 4:40 PM, Umang K Patel wrote:
> >Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official
> >N-Series website...I mean it would have everything. FAQs, PCG's, a place
> >to put new songs, contributions, downloads. whaddya think? I'm a graphic
> >designer and need a nice "portfolio" and since I own the fine machine
> >and have been rather disappointed by Korg's support of it, why not? So
> >before I sit down and put it together I need to hear a unanimous "YAY"
> >and an information base (i.e. y'all will have to help me gather info and
> >such.)
> >
> >-Umang
Yay, your idea sounds good.
TK
-----Original Message-----
From: Umang K Patel <ukp+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU>
To: *@*.syntegra.net <*@*.syntegra.net>
Date: Thursday, August 27, 1998 2:57 PM
Subject: Official N-Series website
> >Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official
> >N-Series website...I mean it would have everything. FAQs, PCG's, a place
> >to put new songs, contributions, downloads. whaddya think? I'm a graphic
> >designer and need a nice "portfolio" and since I own the fine machine
> >and have been rather disappointed by Korg's support of it, why not? So
> >before I sit down and put it together I need to hear a unanimous "YAY"
> >and an information base (i.e. y'all will have to help me gather info and
> >such.)
> >
> >-Umang
> >
Well, if you want i can give you some ''basic'' code which _can_ be
usefull for linux users..
It's a simple program which read a program bank dump and splits it into
different files. If you have splitted a lot of banks this way
1- you have an hard disk which runs out of disk space
2- you have every program as a file on your disk an you can send a single
program to your korg.
3- you have an headache because it's completely command line driven (of
course)
Well.. The only usefull thing with this is that you can combine your banks
as you need them. (Maybe some other tools do this already, but
nevertheless it gives you some good info how to read the sysex info)
If someone is interested let me know. I don't want to take the
time to bring it online when nobody is interested :-)
Werner,-
-] There's a big "YEP" from me too.
-] sounds like a great idea. One forum for all the stuff about the Nx64
-] with songs, PCG's, ideas, ideas to create cool sounds, use effect settings
-] in a way nobody else did before. Why didn't anyone think of this before.
-] I'm in
-]
-] Toon
-]
-] On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Umang K Patel wrote:
-]
-] > Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official
-] > N-Series website...I mean it would have everything. FAQs, PCG's, a place
-] > to put new songs, contributions, downloads. whaddya think? I'm a graphic
-] > designer and need a nice "portfolio" and since I own the fine machine
-] > and have been rather disappointed by Korg's support of it, why not? So
-] > before I sit down and put it together I need to hear a unanimous "YAY"
-] > and an information base (i.e. y'all will have to help me gather info and
-] > such.)
-] >
-] > -Umang
-] >
-]
I'm interested in getting an N264, but I am interested in Ensoniq MR76.
If some one could help me to choose..,please e-mail me? If some one have
anything against MR76 please tell me......
My e-mail is: *@*.com.br
Thankz
Guilherme Ruppert
At 16:40 1998-08-27 -0400, Umang K Patel wrote:
> >Hey guys, I was wondering how you all would feel about an Official
> >N-Series website...
Check my N264/N364 site first:
http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/
It's been running in about 8 months (and is linked from SynthZone -
www.synthzone.com). I have a download section for PCG/SNG/software, the
N264/N364 FAQ, programming info, links etc.
I can put any N264/N364-related file on the site, be it a physical file or
a link.
Songs and PCG's made by Nx64 people are very welcome. Send files as email
attachments directly to me so I can put them online, but please ask me
first. Wouldn't want my email account clogged. ;)
I have a total of 20 MB space online for files + Hero Idema's N264/N364 ftp
site.
If you think something N264/N364-related is missing on the site, please
tell me!
If you have a homepage containing N264/N364 stuff, give me a link and I'll
put it in the links section.
Public message from the N264/N364 mailing list maintainer:
As said several times, please stop sending attachments to this list. Put
your files somewhere and post a link to the list instead! If you don't have
a place to put your files, then ask Hero & me:
*@*.syntegra.net
It's nice to receive new PCG's and SNG's, but not through this mailing list.
All mails with attachments that bounce when the mail server tries to send
to all 100+ members of the list, are bounced to us list owners also.
Members who break the attachment rule repeatedly might have their posting
permissions switched off.
Thanks!
At 11:19 1998-08-28 +0200, Werner Van Belle wrote:
> >Well, if you want i can give you some ''basic'' code which _can_ be
> >usefull for linux users..
> >
> >If someone is interested let me know. I don't want to take the
> >time to bring it online when nobody is interested :-)
Everybody is welcome to send KORG N264/N364-related/specific software to me
(as mail attachments). I will put it on the download section of my
N264/N364 site http://user.tninet.se/~ufn204a/
Software for any computer platform (Amiga/PC/Mac/Unix/Atari/BeOS/C64/etc)
is welcome!
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if it's at all possible to create a sound similar to the
DX7's slap
bass, on a Korg N5? Thanks.
Tony
She said: "I don't like Dream Theater that much,
but I had a pen and some paper, so what the fuck."
(Kevin Moore)
HI !!!
If you are referring to those 80s FM bass sounds which everyone tries to
emulate from the DX days ....i can send you some .PCGs but then they are
not that FM or that the analog warmth is kinda fake in it .....
Dream Theater !!!!????
Ciao
Samrat
*@*.niit.co.in
I am all GAME for the Unofficial Npage ....
If you need graphics support ... and JAVA applets tell me !!???
Thanks
Ciao
Samrat!!
No!!!
People have full length songs which are as big as 4Mb ....it depands on
the size of the server and how much space they allow you ...
A wise thing top do is to get space in geocities or XOOm and then keep
your downloades there and give a link to that site from your Mother site
...I have done this !!!
Check out www.internet-studio.com/cobweb
Ciao
Samrat!!!
Hi. I have 2 really easy questions.
1. How do I assign midi channels on the N-364, using GM bank. It seems
very hard to understand.
2. How do I record and playback General midi at the same time, on the Korg
N-364, using an external sequencer.
If I set it to GM bank sequencer mode - it only plays back.
I hope you can help.
Ciao
Marc Ellis
New Orleans
http://www.fantomas.org
Friends of Fantomas Homepage
> > Does anyone know what a cent is? IN the master tune section of the global
Hi Peter,
A cent is one-hundredth of a semi-tone. [1200 cents to an octave.] So on Korg synths,
the master tuning can be adjusted + or - 50 cents, giving a full semi-tone sweep.
Interestingly, although this value is commonly used for accurate tuning, most humans
can't perceive a pitch change of less than 3 or 4 cents.
jg::
Could you add me to the list for the N364 please? *@*.wave.ca
Thanks a lot!
-ALan
A cent, as the name implies, is one-one-hundredth of a semitone. I am not
sure off- hand if cents are scaled linearly or logarithmically. I would
assume that it is logarithmic since semitones are scaled logarithmically with
respect to frequency. Either way, one hundred cents is one semitone.
I believe that all "detune" parameters on the Korg are "cents" values.
Alan
Ok, I managed to create an Mp3 file of one of my band's demos; even though
it's only 2 min 46 seconds in length, the MP3 is 2.6 Mb, which is still too
big to post on my tiny FTP site. Is this abnormal size for an MP3? I had to
record it 44.1, 16 bit since Cakewalk didn't offer any other option.
Hi ! I'm kei !
Chinese !
I lived in Hong Kong, there is not common for playing midi in here ( at
lease I don't have friends to play that )
Is there any chinese or any lived in Hong Kong can share their exp. with
me? ( privately )
I 'm just want to met some net friends who play NX64 in Hong Kong !
please send email to me !
At 10:39 23/08/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >I've seen a lot of talk about Cakewalk, both on the Korg sites and
> >here. I use Noteworthy Composer (www.ntworthy.com) and have found it
> >to be both inexpensive and incredibly powerful. I'm wondering if
> >anybody else here has used it, and how you think it compares?
I've been at www.ntworthy.com looking around.
And I think Composer isn't able to work with audio.
If its true it's a good reason to choose Cakewalk, Cubase or Logic.
Seeu
Grok
I will use a WAVE Editor software to convert that 44K-16bits file into
an smaller/lower-quality file.
To have 2 or 3Meg MP3 files is normal, but as you said, its too big for
an FTP transfer. I'm trying to learn more about RealAudio, which will be
the best protocol to publish my music on net.
Alejandro.
Marc Ellis (by way of Kenneth Jonsson ) wrote:
> >
> > Hi. I have 2 really easy questions.
> >
> > 1. How do I assign midi channels on the N-364, using GM bank. It seems
> > very hard to understand.
I'm not sure what you're saying, but I have 2 ideas. 1st idea: Go to
the sequencer edit mode and go up to 8F (the last page) and just hit the
"yes" button. This will set every effect to a similar GM effect. If
this isn't what you were talking about, here's another suggestion: once
you enter sequencer mode go to the right 6 times. This is the channel
that the track is on, and on the left is the track. I suggest you set
every effect on a different channel, and put them on the same channel if
you want to combine them (i.e., the trumpet is much more realistic
combined with Marcato.) It's the same with regular progs.
> > 2. How do I record and playback General midi at the same time, on the Korg
> > N-364, using an external sequencer.
> >
> > If I set it to GM bank sequencer mode - it only plays back.
The only solution I know for this is to record the song on the external
sequencer, save it as a .mid file, and load it onto the N364. Then, go
to the MultiRec option in Sequencer mode and turn it ON so that you can
record extra notes manually.
> > I hope you can help.
> >
> > Ciao
> >
> > Marc Ellis
> > New Orleans
> > http://www.fantomas.org
> > Friends of Fantomas Homepage
> > Hi. I have 2 really easy questions.
Hi. I have 2 really easy answers. They may or may not have anything
to do with your questions :-)
> > 1. How do I assign midi channels on the N-364, using GM bank. It seems
> > very hard to understand.
If you mean assigning, say, one particular voice to a channel other
than the global channel, the only way I have found to do this is in
Combi mode. If you need to assign GM voice 01 to channel 1 and GM
voice 05 to channel 2, or something like that, put voice 01 on track
1 of a Combi and voice 05 on track 2 (or something along those lines,
the numbers can vary of course). In Combi Edit mode, go to 3A and
you can set the channel for each individual track. I do this all the
time, see below.
> > 2. How do I record and playback General midi at the same time, on the Korg
> > N-364, using an external sequencer.
Record and playback at the same time. Hmm, I'm not sure what you
mean here. Here's what I do with my Oberheim Drummer, which is an
external drum pattern sequencer. I set up my Combi with my drum kit
(usually GM 129) on track 1, my main voice I want to play along with
it on track 2, if I want to split or layer I set the other tracks up
accordingly. Then I go to 3A and set track 1 to channel 10, which is
the track my Drummer is set to output on. I usually leave the other
tracks on the global channel (1 in my case). I set the Drummer the
way I want it, fire it up and I get the drum sounds through my N264
and can play along as much as I want. That's in Combi mode, not
sequencer mode, so I'm not recording the results of my efforts at
that point. To my knowledge, if you literally mean "play back
something that's in the sequencer on song X while recording it into
the sequencer on song Y," it can't be done.
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short
not to.
Same for me last time i checked (a day ago to be exact)
-] Sam
-] Where in hell (:) ) are your .PCG and .SNG in your web??
-] I can't download them 'cos my browser doesn't find them.
-]
-] TIA
-] Rodri
signoff n-list
************************************
Ron Hubbard
Materials Mgr.
Tektronix Inc.
Microwave Logic Products
978-244-4279
************************************
-------------
Original Text
From: "Dave Washburn" <*@*.NET>, on 8/31/98 7:58 PM:
> > Hi. I have 2 really easy questions.
Hi. I have 2 really easy answers. They may or may not have anything
to do with your questions :-)
> > 1. How do I assign midi channels on the N-364, using GM bank. It seems
> > very hard to understand.
If you mean assigning, say, one particular voice to a channel other
than the global channel, the only way I have found to do this is in
Combi mode. If you need to assign GM voice 01 to channel 1 and GM
voice 05 to channel 2, or something like that, put voice 01 on track
1 of a Combi and voice 05 on track 2 (or something along those lines,
the numbers can vary of course). In Combi Edit mode, go to 3A and
you can set the channel for each individual track. I do this all the
time, see below.
> > 2. How do I record and playback General midi at the same time, on the
Korg
> > N-364, using an external sequencer.
Record and playback at the same time. Hmm, I'm not sure what you
mean here. Here's what I do with my Oberheim Drummer, which is an
external drum pattern sequencer. I set up my Combi with my drum kit
(usually GM 129) on track 1, my main voice I want to play along with
it on track 2, if I want to split or layer I set the other tracks up
accordingly. Then I go to 3A and set track 1 to channel 10, which is
the track my Drummer is set to output on. I usually leave the other
tracks on the global channel (1 in my case). I set the Drummer the
way I want it, fire it up and I get the drum sounds through my N264
and can play along as much as I want. That's in Combi mode, not
sequencer mode, so I'm not recording the results of my efforts at
that point. To my knowledge, if you literally mean "play back
something that's in the sequencer on song X while recording it into
the sequencer on song Y," it can't be done.
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
When in doubt, go for chocolate. Life is too short
not to.
Hi,
Maybe this has been asked before, but how do I get the sounds from those
pcg files that are on the net, to my N5? The supplied Mac editor doesn't seem
to recognise them. Can anyone help me out here? Thanks.
Tony
She said: "I don't like Dream Theater that much,
but I had a pen and some paper, so what the fuck."
(Kevin Moore)
-] Maybe this has been asked before, but how do I get the sounds from those
-] pcg files that are on the net, to my N5? The supplied Mac editor doesn't seem
-] to recognise them. Can anyone help me out here? Thanks.
You send your pcg from your first korg as a sysex to your PC.
There you taken an hexeditor and changes one of the first bytes from
0x35 to whatever your N5 recognises (0x36 or 0x37). And after that
you send your new sysex to your second korg.
You'll probably need the reference manual from both machoines to debug the
sysex format.
Well... This is the way i use to change between korg machines. But there
are probably better ways to do this :-)
Werner,-
I have heard sine wave samples tweaked and twisted beyond hell on things
like the Clavia Nordlead and JP8000.....the analog fat masters ...if you
what I mean ....??!!
I wondered that can my lil N364 do the same ....WHOA !!! it can
...allmost and then you gotta do it right!!!
After much research and tweaking and whining I came to the conclusion
...that ...A SINE sample is the BEST manipulated and tuned so
diversely....and then we cam do so much more with filter controls and
envelopes and more .....SINE and SAW and RAMP samples can be tweaked the
most and sound so different in diff settings !!!
Anyone up for ramming their heads into the AI architecture ....it's a
wild jungle in there
You just have pull out and wang !!!
I wish the screen was a lil bigger and like the TRINITY we could see a
graphic representation .....
HEY !!! we need an EDITOR (with GUI) for the Nseries ....ANYONE !!!!
Ciao
Samrat